Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Cupid Stunt]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Looks more to me like she grabbed his hand and twirled herself.

Sally had to do all the work. MG's wooden a fence post, by direction or acting style.

[peacheslatour]

49 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Sally had to do all the work. MG's wooden a fence post, by direction or acting style.

The Young & The Restless: Where lumber goes to die.

[Gam2]

I know that I’ve written this before but AH is not a good actress. She always seems a beat behind or having a facial expression not appropriate for the scene or too dull for words. She just can’t keep up with the accomplished actors on the show. And she never gets any better. I think this was most obvious in the wedding scenes when she should have shown like a star. She acted like she wasn’t sure exactly where she was supposed to be when she was supposed to be there.

[deirdra]

I've said this many times regarding AH.  She still seems to be acting in a HS play, walking to her mark, waiting for the direction to tell her to look to the right and smile for her closeup, then reciting her lines and stopping to wait expressionless until told what face to pull next. There are noticeable delays between each move or phrase. In between her close-ups you see a blank or sour-looking facial expression that makes no sense in the scene.  In comparison, Peter Bregman is in character as "Jack" even when merely in the background talking to an extra.

[Chatty Cake]

That Jack is still so cold to Sally but panting over his ex wife who cheated on him with his brother and then cheated on his brother with Nick while Sally wasn’t honest about getting Summer the idiot a job irritates the crap out of me. Take old Red back, Jack. How long till she is lying or cheating again you dumb old fool. You stupid chump of a man, 

[Waldo13]

The look on Jack’s face was between disbelief and dismissive; but that look on Rodan the Petty’s face was, to my glee, pure disdain.  Rodan the Petty’s face looked like a lemon was shoved up her ass or kissing Banana Breath after she received oral gratification 😜.  Rodan the Petty thinks there is no reason why Olive should be upset with her brother. In the world according to Rodan the Petty, prying and being disrespectfully someone’s wishes is just another day at the beach.  Has Rodan the Petty pettiness rubbed off on Banana Breath the Gorilla.  Once again Banana Breath the Gorilla has to bring up that Ashland left his friend to die when there was really no hope of saving him but Banana Breath the Gorilla turned his back on a girl that was paralyzed at his pool party. It was Victor that made things right just like he’s doing with Ashland. The gruesome twosome think they are representative of Righteousness and Moral Turpitude when they are just loathsome hypocritical ass holes.  Yes Rodan the Petty, your nefarious deeds CAN be compared to Ashland’s. Your no stranger to stealing for personal gain. 

As far as I’m concerned, until the letter is authenticated, it’s only a red herring. Nostrils the Weasel is only taking Gaines’ word that the original letter is real. 

Another day and another day that Nikki needs to get drunk and STFU. Sally didn’t do anything to Summer the Duck but enrich her life. The best thing for Summer the Duck was getting far far away from Rodan the Petty and Banana Breath the Gorilla. 

I like Sally and Adam very much. Sally makes Adam almost human 😉. 

To me the Palazzo is a “white elephant”. Olive and Ashland didn’t have to own the Palazzo to use it anytime they wanted and wouldn’t have the burden of the upkeep and other expenses. 

There is only 6 inches in height between Olive and Ashland but why are TIIC using camera angles to make it look like it’s much more.  

Now Rodan the Petty is rubbing off on Jack making him petty and showing how to have a sour puss. I thought Jack was a bigger man but he just couldn’t show Sally a wee bit of respect.  Jack, what has Sally done to you what Rodan the Petty has done to you over and over and over again?  

[Gam2]

Jack is one of my favorite characters but I did have to laugh at how many times he walked across the “stage” at the palazzo. Back and forth, back and forth. Poor thing. He needs a good woman who is NOT Phyllis. He deserves an educated, refined woman who knows how to speak to other people without yelling, repeating every word and who does not stomp around everywhere she walks. Guess I want Phyllis to die. Oh yes, I do actually.

[Kemper]

What is wrong with Nick?  The actor?  He is not a great thespian but he can usually get by with being genial, supportive or doing everyday things.  But his sneering and disdain these last few episodes has been almost laughable - that is how bad he is.  He is not believable as Angry, Self-righteous Nick.  Today Phyllis performed better than he did.  Phyllis!

[Joimiaroxeu]

Why would Jack ask Phyllis if she knew the wedding gown was designed by Sally? Why would he think Phyllis would care?

Phyllis actually said Victoria made her sick. Then why were you at the wedding, bish? You weren't even invited. 🤬

Still don't get how the dress Sally made magically fit Victoria without any alterations. You'd think Victoria would wonder about that too.

On a tangential note, I cannot take these commercials with the talking butts. They just look to me like someone with terrible gas is releasing huge farts in their pants in front of a camera. 🥵

Was Noah's suit navy or black? Either way, he and Uncle Adam looked kind of twinsies to me with the dark suit, shirt, and tie combos. Maybe that's why Noah was so cold to him at the wedding. Adam was biting his style, lol.

High-horsed Phyllis described Ashland as secretive and merciless. Yeah, kind of like when you rent a car to run someone down in the street, and then hack into the rental car system to delete record of the transaction so it can't be traced back to you. Merciless? Check. Secretive? Check. She yet again takes the prize for utter lack of self-awareness.

Phyllis and Nick's argument made no sense to me. Nick was all, "I'm right, my stupid family is wrong!" And then Phyllis was like, "Yeah, your family is trash! You are the hero!" And then Nick was like, "Hey, you don't get to talk crap about the Newmans! They're my family!" And then Phyllis was all, "Hol' up, son. I'm your ride or die, remember? Climb off my behind." And then Joi was all, "What. Is. This. Fecking. Nightmare?" 🤯

Pshht. Even if Billy really did delete the scandalous video from his phone, it's likely still in the cloud and he knows it. Is he lying to Lily's face now? 🤠

FFS, Phyllis. You've probably committed more felonies than Ashland, he was just able to do his at a higher scale. The Newmans been had your number. As far as they're concerned the only good thing you've done is produce Summer, and even that was questionable until Victor got a Swiss specialist to do a top secret DNA test on her.

Jack. Stop talking to Sally. You're just digging yourself into a bigger hole and no one is going to be impressed if you fall into the bottomless abyss that is your grudge against her. 😒

Edited October 19, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[KLovestoShop]

I know this is a tiny thing, but it’s bothered me.  This is supposed to be some fancy palazzo that, one would think, comes with a full staff.  So, in Olive’s bedroom, why is there one of those cheap, folding luggage holders, like the ones you find in hotels?  And why was Olive’s luggage all piled up on the rack?  If you own the palazzo, why didn’t someone unpack the bags and hang the clothes in a closet, and then store the  bags out of sight?  
 

Victoria has absolutely no chemistry with Ashland.  It’s more like they’re cousins rather than lovers.  But in all reality, how many couples on this show have good chemistry?

If this show puts Noah with Tessa, this would push Mariah right over the edge.  They can’t destroy one of the best couples on the show. 

Edited October 19, 2021 by KLovestoShop

[boes]

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 High-horsed Phyllis described Ashland as secretive and merciless. Yeah, kind of like when you rent a car to run someone down in the street, and then hack into the rental car system to delete record of the transaction so it can't be traced back to you. Merciless? Check. Secretive? Check. She yet again takes the prize for utter lack of self-awareness.

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FFS, Phyllis. You've probably committed more felonies than Ashland, he was just able to do his at a higher scale. The Newmans been had your number. As far as they're concerned the only good thing you've done is produce Summer, and even that was questionable until Victor got a Swiss specialist to do a top secret DNA test on her.. 

All so true.  Going by Phyllis's past sins, Ashland is still a rank amateur.  He watched his friend die in an accidental fiery crash.  Phyllis, on the other hand, deliberately let Sasha Green die in a fire.

Ashland was the victim in a paternity scam involving his son.  Phyllis perpetrated a paternity scam involving her son.  

Ashland created a false past, saying he grew up in a normal, middle class family when in actuality, he grew up in a violent and abusive home.

Phyllis tells everyone she grew up a scrappy kid who had to fight for everything she got when in reality, she grew up in a rich family in Connecticut, a real Aryan from Darien.  

And the beat goes on.

At least she ended up saddling the Newmans with Dummer.  Imagine the horror if the Abbotts would have been stuck with her.

By the way, would someone explain to me like I'm Dummer how Ashland's past is a threat to ButtBiscuit's kids?  I'd think his monumental and continuous fuckups already have them marked.

When is everyone going to realize what's really bothering Nick and fix it?  You can't tell me, in that enormous Palazzo, there isn't an extra pair of clean Huggies??  Bro Dude needs to be changed:  he's starting to chafe.

Edited October 19, 2021 by boes

[JNavarro]

Lol, Phyllis.  You hate the bride and her family, and your underage boyfriend is mad at them, too.  Then why are you even there, moron?  Her past is legit worse than Ashland's, so hilarious she'd try to go there.

Nick is such a putz.  It's especially clear after today that he wants all the benefits of being a Newman, without having to get his hands dirty and to act like he's above it all.  I'd totally get wanting to rid yourself of such an abhorrent, scummy family, but he's not willing to do that because he's an absolute chump.

I'm probably hearing things that aren't there and this would be some serious effort, but I swear that when Ashland confronted Gaines, his voice changed into some vague slight NJ accent.  

Jack, grow up.  Or do we need another dream from Mommy to get your life in order?  

Going to completely, utterly alone at my table here after saying....Tessa and NuNoah have chemistry, and I'm starting to think I wouldn't be mad.  

Edited October 19, 2021 by JNavarro

[nasir jones]

The “Whodunnit” with Jesse Gaines will be a dud. It will be discovered that he offed himself after witnessing Lily’s total lack of self-respect as well as her complete gullibility. Or maybe Gaines jumped off the balcony in disbelief from  watching Jack criticize Sally while pining for a woman whose list of felonies could stretch from Italy to Wisconsin.
 

So TPTB have decided to make both Nick and Jack act like asswipes in order to facilitate a triangle with the Dumpster Humper?? Ugh.

[Runningwild]

Jack deserves whatever disease SyPhyllis gives him. What a miserable old man. A hot, talented young thing like Sally wants you but she got Summer her dream job in a beautiful country so she’s the evilest evil whoever evilled. You’d rather be with that heavy-footed, stompy, arm-waving, repeating old hag who has cheated on every man she’s ever been with, tried to kill at least two people, and forced her son to raise the daughter conceived when he was raped. 

Honestly all the people ragging on Sally when their pasts are just as bad or worse is like all the Forresters telling Hope how Deacon is the worst when it’s really them.  

Edited October 19, 2021 by Runningwild

[ByaNose]

I actually like Tessa’s baby dilemma. Cait Fairbanks has always annoyed me before. Tessa’s not wanting a baby now or never has been played out well by her. Also, nuNoah is so subtle and quiet in his scenes that it makes me like him more. The writers aren’t writing him as a jerk or too cute but mature. I am curious who’ll he be paired with. I might feel differently then but for now I like the actor. Richard Burgi must be thrilled to get out of that velvet suit. It looked so uncomfortable. Finally, I sort of like Phyllis (don’t @ me) telling Nick off but like in real life you can bitch about your family members but your spouse can’t. That is soooo true.

I’m going to miss the Tuscany set until it’s incorporated somewhere in Genona City and replaced with their ordinary furniture. You know the Tuscany furnishings are going back to where they were rented from. That stuff cost money people. LOL!!!!!

[Cupid Stunt]

15 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

The look on Jack’s face was between disbelief and dismissive; but that look on Rodan the Petty’s face was, to my glee, pure disdain.  Rodan the Petty’s face looked like a lemon was shoved up her ass or kissing Banana Breath after she received oral gratification 😜. 

Isn't Phyllis attacking and insulting everyone at the wedding gratification enough?

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Rodan the Petty thinks there is no reason why Olive should be upset with her brother. In the world according to Rodan the Petty, prying and being disrespectfully someone’s wishes is just another day at the beach.  Has Rodan the Petty pettiness rubbed off on Banana Breath the Gorilla.  Once again Banana Breath the Gorilla has to bring up that Ashland left his friend to die when there was really no hope of saving him but Banana Breath the Gorilla turned his back on a girl that was paralyzed at his pool party

As long as Phyllis tries to build personal justifications to hate on the Newman's with crooked timber she'll drive Nick further away ... Which seems to be her intent. Another indicator is she's not even bothering to fuck away Nick's bad mood.

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It was Victor that made things right just like he’s doing with Ashland. The gruesome twosome think they are representative of Righteousness and Moral Turpitude when they are just loathsome hypocritical ass holes.  Yes Rodan the Petty, your nefarious deeds CAN be compared to Ashland’s. Your no stranger to stealing for personal gain. 

Someone on the forum wrote "Hypocrites shouting at hypocrites for being hypocritical." 

So true with Nick's contempt with Locke-ness' tactics to become Locke-ness. His jealousy that Victor turned to Atonal to follow his directions, was because Victor recognized Nick was in direct opposition to Victor and Victoria's plans for the wedding. 

Victor always cleans up after his kids, particularly when they don't want his interference. 

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As far as I’m concerned, until the letter is authenticated, it’s only a red herring. Nostrils the Weasel is only taking Gaines’ word that the original letter is real.

I don't know how one letter inflated itself into the original will that was destroyed by Jesse's father before Jesse could retrieve it, but suddenly Jesse has all this collaborative hard copy evidence against Locke-ness stealing the Rhodes estate.

Storyline and script continuity would help significantly here.

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I like Sally and Adam very much. Sally makes Adam almost human 😉. 

Almost.

How long will it take before the viewer gets tired of Sally having to carry MG in every scene? Somewhere around the time Sharon starts throwing herself at Atonal because she's jealous of Sally, and we're forced to watch two mediocre actors struggle to dramatize emotion commensurate with the dialog.

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To me the Palazzo is a “white elephant”. Olive and Ashland didn’t have to own the Palazzo to use it anytime they wanted and wouldn’t have the burden of the upkeep and other expenses. 

<drink>

It's definitely a White Elephant for TIIC. In order to justify the budget, they are stuck using the staging for a couple of weeks, and that's going to be tedious.

To misappropriate F. Scott Fitzgerald, "You know, Grumps, the rich are different from you and me."

The fictional Newman's don't have to worry about upkeep and expenses of anything. Soap characters (See NotBilly complaining he paid off Jesse Gaines with a duffle bag of his cash) throw cash around like it was confetti.

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There is only 6 inches in height between Olive and Ashland but why are TIIC using camera angles to make it look like it’s much more.  

Odd, isn't it.

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Now Rodan the Petty is rubbing off on Jack making him petty and showing how to have a sour puss. I thought Jack was a bigger man but he just couldn’t show Sally a wee bit of respect.  Jack, what has Sally done to you what Rodan the Petty has done to you over and over and over again? 

Jack's been working himself into a froth about Sally ever since he was told about Dumber being maneuvered into the Marchetti job and Kyle decided to follow her with Locke Jr.

Jack's mad because he liked Sally, but as is her habit, she would not allow her career ambitions to take its natural course -- She had to push her luck and she lost again. Jack is too old to wait for Sally to hit a learning curve about allowing her talent lead the way; he went through the same frustrations with Phyllis, and that ended badly.

Phyllis is is on her own angry/jealous/revenge tangent with Sally and the Newman's and is attacking them at every opportunity. She is deliberately searching out Jack to complain and conflate their real or imagined bad acts, and Jack is going along because he's lovesick over Phyllis.

 

11 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

I know this is a tiny thing, but it’s bothered me.  This is supposed to be some fancy palazzo that, one would think, comes with a full staff.  So, in Olive’s bedroom, why is there one of those cheap, folding luggage holders, like the ones you find in hotels?  And why was Olive’s luggage all piled up on the rack?  If you own the palazzo, why didn’t someone unpack the bags and hang the clothes in a closet, and then store the  bags out of sight?  

<drink>

The interior room set dressing and staging looks cluttered and cramped to me. I like the patio/outdoor area decorating.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Cupid Stunt

[TVForever]

WHY is Nick acting like a spoiled 10-year-old? 

Is Jack insane? Where and how has Phyllis changed? Okay, maybe she's not actually trying to kill people anymore, but she's as much a Drama Queen as she ever was! 

[Gam2]

1 hour ago, TVForever said:

WHY is Nick acting like a spoiled 10-year-old? 

Is Jack insane? Where and how has Phyllis changed? Okay, maybe she's not actually trying to kill people anymore, but she's as much a Drama Queen as she ever was! 

I was thinking Nick was acting like a whiny 5 year old who was jealous of daddy liking his brother better than him. Geez. That was embarrassing for Nick to talk to his dad like that and then get up to run away. 

[VanillaBeanne]

I too like Sally and Adam but was disappointed in today’s episode.  I hated seeing Adam’s indifference towards Sally.  That’s not acting choice, the writers wrote it into the scene that Adam just misses Sally at the reception and then heads back to his room, clearly unbothered and looking forward to being left alone.  And they write Sally always as the aggressor.  Which I wouldn’t mind except it seems like the writers and the show want to convey that Sally’s aggressiveness and ambition is somehow the wrong kind, which is jarring considering in the same episodes they have no problem with the criminal and morally compromised things that Ashlin did to get his start in business.  
 

Just uggh.  It’s frustrating because Sally is an interesting character portrayed by a very good actress and I don’t know why the writers on this show don’t take advantage of this.  The B&B writers didn’t either (they did initially but not after Thomas was recast) and I watch B&B episodes now where they try so hard to make bland characters like Paris  and Flo interesting.   

Edited October 19, 2021 by VanillaBeanne

[Kemper]

Did I hear Lily (while reclining in bed) tell a shirtless Billy (standing by the window bathed in moonlight) that he looked like a marble statue in the garden...or some such?  Billy's physique in not really bad, but his body isn't "hunk-ish" either.  Poor Lily - she will be disappointed in love again; she has a poor man-picker gene, I think.

I have been enjoying Nick and Adam's relaxed brotherliness these last months; but sadly, that is going to go away.  Nick and his acting choices right now are irredeemable; what are the writers thinking?  And why must they make Sally be so "in-your-face" - taking the pic of Phyllis and Jack.  But she deserves better than Adam right now.  Hello, Nick.  Another wedge between the brothers?

The one positive about Sally taking the picture of Phyllis and Jack - maybe it will push the couple together for good.  I am so tired of Jack right now that I think he and Phyllis deserve one another.  

[Crashcourse]

I haven't liked Sally since she pulled that stunt on B&B where she pretended she was dying to get Wyatt.  I mean, who does that shit?  She is cray cray but maybe she'll try that to get Adam. 

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I haven't liked Sally since she pulled that stunt on B&B where she pretended she was dying to get Wyatt.  I mean, who does that shit?  She is cray cray but maybe she'll try that to get Adam. 

She's a bit of a butter face. I don't like her because she hasn't got any real personality. We didn't need another Phyllis.

[Joimiaroxeu]

The Electric Slide? Lol, yeah I wanted to see Victoria and Jack and Victor doing that. I have a feeling Nikki and Ashland would've rocked it though.

I think it's nice how Lily calls Billy on his b.s. but it seems like she still goes along with whatever he wants, eventually. And wow, he's doubling down on the probable lie that he deleted the Gaines video from his phone.

Jack's still talking shite about Sally! This guy. 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

Nick, it's simple: you got worked by Victor. Again. Stevie Wonder could've seen it coming. Get over yourself, you old whiny baby. And stop trying to live for daddy's approval.

Nick: when you say you have taken care of Gaines, what does that mean?
Victor: it means I made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
The World: oh please, Victor. Marlon Brando you are not. Not on your best day.
Victor: take care that you all don't end up with horse heads in your beds. Yougotthat?
The World: <gulp>

Lily said Billy looked like one of the marble statues in the palazzo garden. I guess those statues must resemble human-sized lumps of colorless clay. Michaelangelo was having a bad week, tee hee.

So who was this bimbo in London who dumped Noah? Did she not know he was a Newman? I guess over there if you're not actual royalty you're disposable. 🙄

Adam and Sally didn't lock the door before they started going at it. Doesn't matter since Adam revved the engine for no reason and then left Sally with what some quick googling says is called blue bean. 😉 (I see you, SC. Adam & Sally will never be more than a tease if you have anything to say about it. 😏)

Hah, hah, Victor. The joke's on you. Billy the virtual derelict doesn't own much of anything for you to take.

[Cupid Stunt]

Hi VanillaBeanne!

[Goodnight]

Locke’s past is nothing compared to other creeps on this show. The worst thing he did was steal an old lady’s money after she was dead. Did he murder (Nikki) or attempt to murder (Phyllis)? Nope! Leave my handsome man alone.

Jack could not be more unattractive right now, lecturing and sneering at Sally while panting over and chasing a she-beast who chose Nick and BILLY YOUR BROTHER over him. Loser.

Love Sally and pretending the dumb shit they made her do on B&B didn’t happen. I’m appreciating the slow burn with Adam. I hope she makes him beg for it when the time comes.

Edited October 20, 2021 by Goodnight

[Snaporaz]

Why is Billy shirtless more often than any other guy on this show?  So gross...Victor needs to change things up and start calling him Useless BillyBoobs Abbott.  

I don't even understand why Phyllis thinks Nick's current hissy fit is some insurmountable obstacle in their relationship.  It sounds like another example of the writers telling us how things are instead of showing us.  Kind of like "Summer is as smart as they get."   Summer wasn't even on today, but even her text messages are annoying.  "Where R U?  They're cutting the cake now!"  Yes, Summer...who would want to miss that?

23 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

If this show puts Noah with Tessa, this would push Mariah right over the edge.  They can’t destroy one of the best couples on the show. 

I'll bet you a nickel that Mariah will be the one to push them to be together.  She's already established that she wants Tessa to carry their baby, and Noah offers a DNA perfecta : the baby would be bio-related both to Mariah and to Bowie. 

[Cupid Stunt]

5 hours ago, Kemper said:

Did I hear Lily (while reclining in bed) tell a shirtless Billy (standing by the window bathed in moonlight) that he looked like a marble statue in the garden...or some such?  Billy's physique in not really bad, but his body isn't "hunk-ish" either.   

NotBilly is very far from the Roman aesthetic ideal.

But I can't expect Lily, or TIIC, to understand their error.

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Poor Lily - she will be disappointed in love again; she has a poor man-picker gene, I think.

Lily falls hard for a 

 

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I have been enjoying Nick and Adam's relaxed brotherliness these last months; but sadly, that is going to go away.  Nick and his acting choices right now are irredeemable; what are the writers thinking?  And why must they make Sally be so "in-your-face" - taking the pic of Phyllis and Jack.  But she deserves better than Adam right now.  Hello, Nick.  Another wedge between the brothers?

It's interesting that we were lead to believe by TIIC that Atonal would be the one to ruin their new relationship because he's a corrupt rat bastard at heart. Early on, Nick warned Atonal that if Atonal reverted back to his devilish ways it would be over between them. But as it's being demonstrated by Nick's self-righteous petulance and jealousy for being left out of the Gaines/NotBilly round up and directed to make peace with Victoria, it's Nick that's tearing apart his ties with his family.

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The one positive about Sally taking the picture of Phyllis and Jack - maybe it will push the couple together for good.  I am so tired of Jack right now that I think he and Phyllis deserve one another. 

I hate the idea of a Jack/Phyllis redux. Phyllis' betrayal of their marriage by carrying on a revolting affair with NotBilly was a nightmare. How would Jack explain taking Phyllis back after she humiliated him with NotBilly? 

Nick's on a tear over the Newman's embracing Locke-ness married to Victoria, he's going to lose his mind if Phyllis returns to Jack.

Phyllis is no better with Nick. What do they have between them but sex, their mutual enemies and increased bickering? They do nothing social with other couples, Dumber's gone to live her own life without her parent's, there's no interaction with Faith and CAN, and the Newman's want nothing to do with Phyllis. 

Nick and Phyllis are a boring, selfish, dissolute couple. Soon to end I expect.

Edited October 20, 2021 by Cupid Stunt

[boes]

Lily's right.  ButtBiscuit DOES look exactly like one of the garden statues.

Right down to the pointed head.

[JNavarro]

I am so sick of Jack and how he's being written in this story.  I want him to get a win and get what we wants, even if it's Phyllis for some Godforsaken reason.  If he just went for it and told Phyllis he wanted her and for Nick to fuck off, I could live with that.   But he's so sickeningly passive aggressive nice guy dbag in this whole thing, it's so cringe and emasculating and I can't deal.  

They were pretty annoying otherwise, but I really liked Nate/Elena just being kind to Sally for a moment.  

I don't buy into the mythos of Victor as being so scaryyyy and king shit.  Yet, ButtBiscuit is so painfully outclassed and outmatched in every scene where he tries to "confront" him.  

Maybe a pointless detail, but I like how named characters are in the background interacting while other characters are having their scene.  Just makes everything seem so connected and realistic.  

[nasir jones]

6 hours ago, Kemper said:

 

The one positive about Sally taking the picture of Phyllis and Jack - maybe it will push the couple together for good.  I am so tired of Jack right now that I think he and Phyllis deserve one another.  

The writers have finally done it. They’ve made Jack impossible to like. Will someone get him a chair and tell him to sit the (bleep) down?? No more wandering around with terrible excuses. Just sit down and shut up for a while. Oh, and leave that felonious Dumpster Humper alone!

Nick… everyone loves a petty, jealous, and whiny brat who’s old enough to be someone’s grandfather. Not!!! My goodness. I’m surprised he didn’t have a temper tantrum in the middle of the floor. Literally no one forced him to go to New Jersey. And he’s jealous of Adam because Victor has included lil bro in the potential criminal conspiracy? Hello?!?!

His ridiculousness even got Adam in a bad mood, until… whew! Is it hot in here or is it just me? Welp, I guess it’s cold showers for everyone.

[peacheslatour]

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But as it's being demonstrated by Nick's self-righteous petulance and jealousy for being left out of the Gaines/NotBilly round up and directed to make peace with Victoria, it's Nick that's tearing apart his ties with his family.

Seriously. Nikki, Victor, Adam and the rest of the Newmans have closed ranks around Victoria. This is the definition of NOT tearing the family apart. Nick is behaving like a four year old who's just been told he can't have the cake and all the presents because it's his brother's birthday, not his. He needs to take several seats.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Both Chloe and Lauren all dolled up with no where to go but the coffee house?  Glitter clothing must be all the rage as B&B are into it too!

[peacheslatour]

11 minutes ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Both Chloe and Lauren all dolled up with no where to go but the coffee house?  Glitter clothing must be all the rage as B&B are into it too!

When you have no money for real costumes and designers, glitter is one way to stand out. Ask any stripper.

[boes]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

When you have no money for real costumes and designers, glitter is one way to stand out. Ask any stripper.

Well, you gotta have a gimmick, as they say.

 

She's electrifyin', and she's not even tryin'.....

[SweePea59]

I liked Lauren's sparkly hooker coat. 

So Michael and Lauren had drinks at Society, then went directly to Crimson Lights for coffee? I guess they'll be hitting the Gagworthy Phonebooth next as they make their rounds all dressed up with nowhere to go. When was the last time we saw their apartment? Twelve years ago?

[Joimiaroxeu]

Jack, muthaeffah please. Stop talking crap about Sally! Stop going out of your way dump on her to anyone who'll listen. I hate you so much right now, you self-righteous POS. (And Sally, stop trying to make nice with him. You're casting pearls before swine, honey.)

Gee Phyllis, maybe it's the way you keep letting Nick know you've got your ex stashed in your back pocket. Maybe Jack's a big part of the problem. 😑

Lol, during one of the breakfast scenes, the soundtrack was like a Muzak version of O Sole Mio. After that I wouldn't have been surprised to hear the Oh-Oh Spaghettios jingle.

Hmm, now I'm thinking the main reason Adam didn't want to get with Sally last night is because he didn't want to have to bring her to the family breakfast. From the Newmans she would've mostly gotten the stinkeye. 😕

How was Victor gushing about Newman family unity when he knew Nick was still making himself conspicuously absent? Is he starting to lose his mental faculties?

Lauren must've been so mad about the wedding gown swap that she got dressed in the dark. I thought her outfit today was hideous, even by her own usual standards.

Chloe doesn't work for Lauren so how did she betray her? Was Lauren expecting unwavering loyalty as a sister-in-law over Chloe's professional need to bolster the Newman Media fashion brand? Meh. Just give Fenmores some free advertising for the holidays and tell Lauren to simmer down.

Guess Summer and Kyle had to hightail it back to Milan. Oh well. 🙄

Lily, girl, you know Billy didn't delete that Gaines video. And he's just itching to find a new reason to publish it. He is straight up lying to you.

Man, Noah was just not here for Sally at all. Is he in the "but, but, but what she did to poor Summer!" gang? Pssht. 🤨

Phyllis is flying back to GC alone with Jack on the Jabot jet. Will some transatlantic hanky-panky ensue? Dumba$$ Jack seems ripe for Red's picking. He won't even mind if she screams Nick's name the whole time. 🤠

Adam, you're as pathetic as Nick if you're now going to fight Victor's battle against Billy. Maybe even more pathetic since Nick didn't kill one of Billy's kids. (This would however be the ideal time for Adam to find out about Billy's tryst with Summer. AFAIC someone needs to drop that bomb soon.)

Lauren must've also put her thong on backwards this morning. She was madder than two wet cats. Good grief, you over-caffeinated shrew. It was one freaking dress and Victoria's choice not to wear it.

I have a feeling that if Lauren tries to come for Sally Adam will step into the fray. Not that Sally can't handle her own troubles but Miss Lauren don't want that Newman smoke. 😈

Sounds like Ashland and Victoria aren't taking a honeymoon. That seems odd to me.

[peacheslatour]

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Adam, you're as pathetic as Nick if you're now going to fight Victor's battle against Billy. Maybe even more pathetic since Nick didn't kill one of Billy's kids. (This would however be the ideal time for Adam to find out about Billy's tryst with Summer. AFAIC someone needs to drop that bomb soon.)

Soap opera gods, please put us out of our misery. Unca Beely puttin' to Dummmer would be just the thing to reunite the Newman boys and squash Buttbiscuit like the disgusting insect that he is.

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Lauren must've also put her thong on backwards this morning. She was madder than two wet cats. Good grief, you over-caffeinated shrew. It was one freaking dress and Victoria's choice not to wear it.

Not to mention the thing Lauren made for Victoria would be more suitable as a funeral shroud than as a wedding dress.

[nasir jones]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

How was Victor gushing about Newman family unity when he knew Nick was still making himself conspicuously absent? Is he starting to lose his mental faculties?

Victor meant unity amongst his progeny who’re perfectly fine with a little criminal conspiracy. Nick, OTOH, is completely against such things. Yes, it was only a few weeks ago that he stood by and watched as the Dumpster Humper committed multiple felonies in broad daylight. But that was different. 

Ashland was happier than a pig in (bleep) at breakfast. Everything is turning up aces for him. I expect that soon he’ll no longer have this debilitating disease.

I’m not sure what’s more pathetic… Lily’s acceptance of whatever nonsense NotBilly tells her on a given day or Victor hanging morsels of fake love over Adam’s head in exchange for his son being his loyal lackey? Who am I kidding? It’s definitely Lily. The only plausible explanation is that the sex must’ve been awful with Cane.

[CountryGirl]

Lauren, STFU. 

Your designer SUCKED. And even if that dress hadn’t sucked, if Victoria, the BRIDE, didn’t like it, that’s her prerogative. Get over it. 

Sally proved she “got” Victoria and Victoria made her choice. Also, you fired Sally, Lauren, so you have zero say about Sally’s career.

So Syph and Smilin’ Jack are gonna fly back to GC together. I do wonder what will happen.

But if the obvious happens, they should know that DOOL’s John and Marlena did plane sex one million times better  

 

 

[peacheslatour]

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So Syph and Smilin’ Jack are gonna fly back to GC together. I do wonder what will happen.

I declare, the very idea of Pantin' Jack Abbott alone over the Atlantic with Phyllis "Waste Management" McThirsty is giving me the vapors.

[Gam2]

55 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I declare, the very idea of Pantin' Jack Abbott alone over the Atlantic with Phyllis "Waste Management" McThirsty is giving me the vapors.

That idea makes me throw up in my mouth. The Jack we used to know deserves so much better. This current one? I’m not sure what he deserves. Bring back our admirable Jack.

[CountryGirl]

Adam thinking about Sally and him putting the brakes on was 🔥🔥🔥. I am more than okay with a slow burn between them. 

[Snaporaz]

Wait, all the guests have left, and we haven't gotten our Palazzo Murder Mystery.  What gives?  I was hoping for some Agatha Christie-type story, with multiple victims (Whats-his-nuts, Summer, Billy).  I'm sure Whats-his-nuts has been ensconced in the walls of the wine cellar, probably still alive. 

Lauren's attitude is surprising, considering she often not only cheered the Original Sally Spectra's antics (which usually were way more outrageous than this Sally's schemes), but was sometimes complicit in them, especially when Stephanie Forrester was the target.  Also, Sally owes Lauren nothing, so STFU.  What was she even talking about with the "Sally was just one catastrophe after another" nonsense?  Before Sally railroaded Summer into her dream job, Lauren always gave Sally glowing performance reviews.   Did Michael even have any lines today?  

Someone made reference to The Godfather upthread.  Let's pick that up.  Today, Nick cemented his position as Fredo.  Adam is Sonny, Victoria is Michael, and Abby is Connie.  Obviously, Tessa is Johnny Fontane.  I just can't decide whether Nikki is Kay or Clemenza.  

Edited October 21, 2021 by Snaporaz

[Waldo13]

I’ve been on vacation so I will have to bing watch Mon thru Thurs. After reading your comments, I can’t wait to contribute my 2 cents to the discussions. 

[JNavarro]

Ahahaha, Lauren, too bad, so sad.  It's disturbingly petty how entertained I was seeing this shrew so upset and bitter.  Chloe has a business to run, and neither she nor Sally owe you shit.  Doesn't her old ass department store have logistics problems right about now?

Nick actually makes Victor look even tempered and reasonable.  Wow.  Hope Noah packed Dad's diapers for the trip, since he seems to be the more mature party here. 

If Jack were smart, he'd give Phyllis her purse back, and stay in Italy and never look back.  

 

 

 

[Cupid Stunt]

2 hours ago, nasir jones said:

Victor meant unity amongst his progeny who’re perfectly fine with a little criminal conspiracy. Nick, OTOH, is completely against such things. Yes, it was only a few weeks ago that he stood by and watched as the Dumpster Humper committed multiple felonies in broad daylight. But that was different. 

You know how it goes with Nick; if the felony doesn't benefit him, his righteous indignation knows no bounds.

Was it any surprise Nick ended up being the party pooper? Every special occasion/wedding/funeral/baptism needs to have some asshat ruining a perfectly mediocre time.

To commemorate Nick's spoiler designation, I picked up a cake.

Enjoy!

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Ashland was happier than a pig in (bleep) at breakfast. Everything is turning up aces for him. I expect that soon he’ll no longer have this debilitating disease.

Well, Locke-ness did pull off quite the coup.

He arrived in Genoa City with only his rapacious business reputation and his faithless, criminal wife, and passed her on to the Abbott's, then was shipped off to the NY state attorney. Locke Jr was handed over to his biological father, conveniently moving to Milan.

Locke-ness profitably merged his company with Newman Enterprises. He wooed Victoria and won her hand, in spite of being exposed as a liar, thief and mercenary. He quashed Victoria's rabidly jealous ex-husband (temporarily) and his main antagonist, Gaines. We don't know how Gaines was "handled" and are left to guess what that means for the newly wed couple. 

Locke-ness is honeymooning in a gifted palazzo <drink> with his in-law's, and pledges to be more serious with his cancer treatment.

NotBilly/Chance Dot Com are Locke-ness' last stumbling block and Newman Media has declared war.

Dull times.

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I’m not sure what’s more pathetic… Lily’s acceptance of whatever nonsense NotBilly tells her on a given day or Victor hanging morsels of fake love over Adam’s head in exchange for his son being his loyal lackey? Who am I kidding? It’s definitely Lily. The only plausible explanation is that the sex must’ve been awful with Cane.

It's the same problem Lili had with Cane. He commited a litany of criminal/stupid/outrageous things and Lily stuck him until she killed Hillary 1.0 and went to prison, then she got her head on straight and divorced Cane.

Lily is doomed to go along with every harebrained scheme he proposes for Chance Dot Com, as long as she remains with NotBilly. 

 

I don't trust Atonal. Period. And no one should. He's done none of the hard work to make up for his past behavior. Saying the words isn't enough, particularly when Victor gave him a media company to deliberately destroy NotBilly and his trifling online site.

As long as Victor uses Atonal's penchant for bad behavior as a weapon against NotBilly and Chance Dot Com, Atonal will never be able to walk away from his past actions, crimes and simmering resentment against the Newman's.

Eventually Victor's demands that Atonal do his wet work will push Atonal too far. And come back to bite Victor.

[Kimboweena]

40 minutes ago, Snaporaz said:

Wait, all the guests have left, and we haven't gotten our Palazzo Murder Mystery.  What gives? 

Towards the end of the show, Victoria and Ashland kissed and hugged. I imagined a dead Gaines dropping from an upper window, and landing next to them. 😄

When she left the table after talking to Chloe and Keven, I thought it was funny the way Lauren gestured to Michael to come with her.

 

[boes]

I'm just glad that finally someone stood and called Sally out on that dress fiasco, even if it was Lauren.

I mean, how embarrassing was it, seeing Sally literally wrestle Victoria to the ground, ripping that beeeeeUUUUTiful gown Lauren had made, forcing Victoria, kicking and screaming into Sally's gown.  Everyone looked on in horror but nobody stepped in to help Victoria and stop this outrage.

Oh, that didn't happen?  Victoria chose to wear the dress she liked the best and that one happened to be Sally's?  Oh........

Then STFU Lauren and stroll back into your Notions department and stay there.

Noah must be so thrilled to be having his Dad come back to London with him, just thrilled.  What person wouldn't be over the moon to be walking around London with an over-the-hill surfer Dad who will undoubtedly start referring to his nether region as "Big Ben" in front of Noah's friends and giggling to himself about how funny he is?   Wanna bet he asks them all why they drive on the wrong side of the road and make some deadly dumb Dad joke about bangers and mash?

Too bad Sally didn't have a special outfit for Nick, too.

He's such an Oompa Loompa.

Ashland's too happy.  No spoiler here but I bet he's a goner by Thanksgiving.

ETA - The Levi Corporation should issue a Cease and Desist order to make ButtBiscuit stop wearing their jeans.  He doesn't have the Assets to pull off wearing them.

(I just re-read that last sentence!  It's an awkward construction but IN NO WAY  do I suggest ButtBiscuit should EVER pull off his jeans or anything else that covers that Valley of Despair he calls his body.  No way, no how.

I'll be more careful in my wording from here on out.)

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[Joimiaroxeu]

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Today, Nick cemented his position as Fredo.  Adam is Sonny, Victoria is Michael, and Abby is Connie.  Obviously, Tessa is Johnny Fontane.  I just can't decide whether Nikki is Kay or Clemenza.  

Yes! Nick is definitely Fredo. I think Nikki considers herself to be Clemenza but most of the family regards her as Kay.

[deirdra]

6 hours ago, Kimboweena said:

Towards the end of the show, Victoria and Ashland kissed and hugged. I imagined a dead Gaines dropping from an upper window, and landing next to them. 😄

 

I keep expecting someone to find Gaines floating in one of the fountains