David and Lana: The Seven-Year Ditch

[seacliffsal]

I think Lana has figured out that it is far better to pretend not to speak English than let on how much she knows.  That way she has more time to figure out how to avoid David's attempts to be physical with her.  I laugh at how her hands are ALWAYS in her pockets...

[itsadryheat]

7 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

her hands are ALWAYS in her pockets

Usman makes an insightful comment in the tell all that David has no perception of shy Lana's body language. Body stiffens when he lands on her, hands in pocket, silent, etc.  David's interpretation - she's shy. 

[merylinkid]

On 5/26/2020 at 7:38 PM, seacliffsal said:

I think Lana has figured out that it is far better to pretend not to speak English than let on how much she knows.  That way she has more time to figure out how to avoid David's attempts to be physical with her.  I laugh at how her hands are ALWAYS in her pockets...

As long as she knows the words "alimony" and "marital property" she is good.  IF she does go through with it, I hope she takes him for everything she can.   It would be a fitting end to their relationship.

[mamadrama]

Current circulating rumor is that his "friend" who runs one of the websites is actually his business partner and he co-owns the site he "met" "Lana" on. They're saying that's how he got "her" address, how he's spent so much money (ie, he hasn't really), why he's made so many trips, etc. I know he knows the owner of the site from the LOVE, ME documentary, but I don't know if that's the same friend he was referencing or not.

Anyway, just sharing. Not sure i buy it,but still a fun theory to marinate on.

[1011101010001]

He kept insisting in the Tell All leak that these are American companies and he could sue them if they were scams.  But maybe he does have an financial interest and is using this as an infomercial to make potential customers think the sites really work.  

[mamadrama]

4 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

He kept insisting in the Tell All leak that these are American companies and he could sue them if they were scams.  But maybe he does have an financial interest and is using this as an infomercial to make potential customers think the sites really work.  

He also said that Lana couldn't use the iPhone he bought her because her nails were too long, and that he'd "dated" more than 100 Ukrainian women.

David's words don't hold a lot of water.

[AZChristian]

9 hours ago, mamadrama said:

. . . he'd "dated" more than 100 Ukrainian women.

David's words don't hold a lot of water.

Let's say that he did three of those "Love Me" type bus tours.  The one on the video showed three different "socials" on each trip, allowing a busload of men to circulate around a room with (probably) 100 women in each room.  So he MIGHT have been in the same room as 900 women (100 women x 3 socials x 3 trips).  

Let's assume that David kept a count of all the women at those socials to whom he walked up and said, "My name is David" and shook hands.  In his definition, those are dates, so - yes - he has "dated" more than 100 Ukranian women.

[OliversMom]

Maybe David considers a speed dating type of mini date as an actual date?  If so, you could ‘date’ hundreds of women in a few weeks time lol

[merylinkid]

21 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Current circulating rumor is that his "friend" who runs one of the websites is actually his business partner and he co-owns the site he "met" "Lana" on. They're saying that's how he got "her" address, how he's spent so much money (ie, he hasn't really), why he's made so many trips, etc. I know he knows the owner of the site from the LOVE, ME documentary, but I don't know if that's the same friend he was referencing or not.

Anyway, just sharing. Not sure i buy it,but still a fun theory to marinate on.

BINGO.   NOW we know why this loser went on the show.   Also why he keeps insisting he is not being scammed.

[RealReality]

On 5/26/2020 at 4:51 PM, itsadryheat said:

Usman makes an insightful comment in the tell all that David has no perception of shy Lana's body language. Body stiffens when he lands on her, hands in pocket, silent, etc.  David's interpretation - she's shy. 

I'm sure in david's world women are either sluts or they are shy.  

Slut = desperate enough to have sex with him

Shy = not as desperate as the sluts

 

[itsadryheat]

23 hours ago, merylinkid said:

BINGO.   NOW we know why this loser went on the show.   Also why he keeps insisting he is not being scammed.

We may know the answer to why he went on the show, but it did nothing to make him look "desirable". He is an entitled, cheap, creeper.

Still trying to brain bleach this comment "see if Lana can give ME the affection I need"

[greekmom]

On 5/30/2020 at 11:25 PM, mamadrama said:

He also said that Lana couldn't use the iPhone he bought her because her nails were too long, and that he'd "dated" more than 100 Ukrainian women.

David's words don't hold a lot of water.

Yet. Last night it showed he bought her an Iphone.

Did he ask the sales associate if it's handy to use with long nails?

Does anyone know in the documentary Love Me where we see David?

[Gobi]

24 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Yet. Last night it showed he bought her an Iphone.

Did he ask the sales associate if it's handy to use with long nails?

Does anyone know in the documentary Love Me where we see David?

I looked for David in the documentary, but did not see him. If he's in it, he's in the background somewhere, not featured.

[Elizzikra]

33 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Yet. Last night it showed he bought her an Iphone.

Did he ask the sales associate if it's handy to use with long nails?

Does anyone know in the documentary Love Me where we see David?

You can also see clearly in their many awkward hugs that her nails are not that long.

[1011101010001]

19 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

You can also see clearly in their many awkward hugs that her nails are not that long.

Wasn’t she typing with short nails into a smartphone when she was sitting alone in a cafe a few episodes again?  You know, when her friend was asking if David is rich?  You don’t need an iPhone for texting and email.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Wasn’t she typing with short nails into a smartphone when she was sitting alone in a cafe a few episodes again?  You know, when her friend was asking if David is rich?  You don’t need an iPhone for texting and email.

You also don't need short nails to answer a phone call... 🙂

[RealReality]

8 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

You also don't need short nails to answer a phone call... 🙂

LOL, if she can use her nails to type on a small laptop keyboard she shouldn't have a problem with a touch screen on an iPhone. 

[mamadrama]

20 hours ago, Gobi said:

I looked for David in the documentary, but did not see him. If he's in it, he's in the background somewhere, not featured.

He's in the background at one of the party scenes.

[monagatuna]

If you've ever dated men, you recognize David's MMMMs as the go-to move for dudes trying to make something happen when you know she's not into it. You know you'll get rejected if you full-on go for it, but you feel you have to try *something.* It's not sexy and in my experience, it never works, but it's ubiquitous among dudes who really really want physical contact from someone they know is not attracted to them.

[Mrs. Hanson]

43 minutes ago, monagatuna said:

If you've ever dated men, you recognize David's MMMMs as the go-to move for dudes trying to make something happen when you know she's not into it. You know you'll get rejected if you full-on go for it, but you feel you have to try *something.* It's not sexy and in my experience, it never works, but it's ubiquitous among dudes who really really want physical contact from someone they know is not attracted to them.

All I can hear is the Crash Test Dummies!! "Hmmm mmm mmm mmmm!"

 

On 5/31/2020 at 8:32 AM, AZChristian said:

Let's assume that David kept a count of all the women at those socials to whom he walked up and said, "My name is David" and shook hands.  In his definition, those are dates, so - yes - he has "dated" more than 100 Ukranian women.

And that is exactly how his brain processed it.  In that case, I "dated" about 100 men during my early twenties if you count chatting with guys at Happy Hour, going to clubs to dance and talking to guys at parties.

[AZChristian]

17 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

And that is exactly how his brain processed it.  In that case, I "dated" about 100 men during my early twenties if you count chatting with guys at Happy Hour, going to clubs to dance and talking to guys at parties.

Don't forget the guys who smiled at you and gave up their seat on a bus or subway for you.  (Not that that's something that apparently happens much these days.)

[Gobi]

17 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

And that is exactly how his brain processed it.  In that case, I "dated" about 100 men during my early twenties if you count chatting with guys at Happy Hour, going to clubs to dance and talking to guys at parties.

Tramp.

[monagatuna]

4 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

All I can hear is the Crash Test Dummies!! "Hmmm mmm mmm mmmm!"

 

And that is exactly how his brain processed it.  In that case, I "dated" about 100 men during my early twenties if you count chatting with guys at Happy Hour, going to clubs to dance and talking to guys at parties.

Makes sense. If he equates grudging messages for pay with love and an engagement, it would follow that he equates a smile and hello with "dating."

[Mothra]

On 5/22/2020 at 2:32 PM, Angry Moldovan said:

She’s not a natural beauty. It’s amazing what peroxide, photoshop and a decent body can do for a girl. Her teeth let her down. She should take some of the money she scammed from the wig and get veneers

I think she should go for a chin implant first.  I also think she's aware of her weak chin--she covers it in some of her photos.  Of course, it would be hard to cover her teeth, so maybe she should look for a twofer deal.

[Kayz Opinion]

 

On 6/1/2020 at 11:30 AM, Elizzikra said:

You can also see clearly in their many awkward hugs that her nails are not that long.

Ohhhh!  Was he supposed to notice anything about her in person?  He remembers only those long/beautiful/MANICURED nails she posted on the various websites.  He simply imagined they were hers when he (finally) looked into her eyes.  

Edited June 2, 2020 by Kayz Opinion
A merge that is just so wrong.

[1011101010001]

Seeing that a handy is the most he will ever get from her you would think he would prefer shorter nails.

[Chippings]

In watching the snippets from the forthcoming Tell-All (sic), one bit seemed to be David looking very sad -- near tears, kind of.  Does anyone who bravely watched (or even read the summary entirely) recall what  that was about?  Realize that's certainly a Spoiler, but that's why I'm here.  

[Christina]

1 hour ago, Chippings said:

Does anyone who bravely watched (or even read the summary entirely) recall what  that was about? 

I don't remember him being sad, but he was getting really frustrated with having to repeat himself over and over because people, especially Ed, cut speaking over him and insisting that Lana was using him and he wasn't engaged. 

I was getting frustrated that he had to keep repeating himself because no one was listening and Ed kept yelling over everyone.

EDIT: The leak was only from day 2, so he may have been sad from shooting on day 1 but I didn't see it on the leak.

Edited June 3, 2020 by Christina
Added paragraph.

[1011101010001]

1 hour ago, Chippings said:

In watching the snippets from the forthcoming Tell-All (sic), one bit seemed to be David looking very sad -- near tears, kind of.  Does anyone who bravely watched (or even read the summary entirely) recall what  that was about?  Realize that's certainly a Spoiler, but that's why I'm here.  

Maybe it was the first day because I watched the whole second day and didn’t see that.

[Chippings]

Thank you, guys.  It was just a moment in the preview, so maybe indeed in the other part.  I could always wait til next week - just not mature enough to do that if I don't have to!

[endure]

On 5/30/2020 at 11:01 AM, mamadrama said:

Current circulating rumor is that his "friend" who runs one of the websites is actually his business partner and he co-owns the site he "met" "Lana" on. They're saying that's how he got "her" address, how he's spent so much money (ie, he hasn't really), why he's made so many trips, etc. I know he knows the owner of the site from the LOVE, ME documentary, but I don't know if that's the same friend he was referencing or not.

Anyway, just sharing. Not sure i buy it,but still a fun theory to marinate on.

Not sure if I read on here somewhere or elsewhere online that he has been engaged to a few Russian women and sounds like he is an obsessive dater and been to Russia many times....he’s a very odd man.

just edited to say.... yes i see there is already a lot of talk here about David being some kind of serial dater whacko

Edited June 3, 2020 by endure

[RealReality]

23 hours ago, monagatuna said:

If you've ever dated men, you recognize David's MMMMs as the go-to move for dudes trying to make something happen when you know she's not into it. You know you'll get rejected if you full-on go for it, but you feel you have to try *something.* It's not sexy and in my experience, it never works, but it's ubiquitous among dudes who really really want physical contact from someone they know is not attracted to them.

I have never had a man mmmmmm me. 

I had no idea this was some sort of seductive move, I'd probably assume the guy was having a medical emergency like a stroke or a seizure.   

[monagatuna]

4 hours ago, RealReality said:

I have never had a man mmmmmm me. 

I had no idea this was some sort of seductive move, I'd probably assume the guy was having a medical emergency like a stroke or a seizure.   

That is certainly how it comes off! Like I said, it is not very effective. And I'm only speaking from my own experience, so it may not be universal. But I used to date a lot and this happened more than once. Not from dudes as old as David, but it came off just as creepy.

[RealReality]

15 minutes ago, monagatuna said:

That is certainly how it comes off! Like I said, it is not very effective. And I'm only speaking from my own experience, so it may not be universal. But I used to date a lot and this happened more than once. Not from dudes as old as David, but it came off just as creepy.

I don't doubt it at all.  There are things that men assume are seductive that make no sense to me at all. 

Like random pictures of their dick....how is a picture of someone's dick without any context supposed to be seductive?  At best, it's a situation where I've already seen the milk, so I'm probably not gonna buy the cow.

Perhaps if I had one of these box brains I've heard so much about, I'd get the appeal.  Sadly, my brain is full of squiggles. 

Edited June 3, 2020 by RealReality

[AZChristian]

17 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Like random pictures of their dick....how is a picture of someone's dick without any context supposed to be seductive?  At best, it's a situation where I've already seen the milk, so I'm probably not gonna buy the cow.

ROFLOL.  Good post!!!!

[1011101010001]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

Like random pictures of their dick....how is a picture of someone's dick without any context supposed to be seductive?  At best, it's a situation where I've already seen the milk, so I'm probably not gonna buy the cow

My mom’s coworkers used to pressure her to go to a male strip club (in a neighboring state it was full nudity).  She would say “I have a husband and two sons.  I know what they look like.”

Are guys who send dick pics trying to prove that they don’t  have microphalluses?  Because as long as it’s in the normal range things should be fine.  It’s not like women send pics of their genitals to show how tight or loose they are. 

[mamadrama]

18 hours ago, endure said:

Not sure if I read on here somewhere or elsewhere online that he has been engaged to a few Russian women and sounds like he is an obsessive dater and been to Russia many times....he’s a very odd man.

just edited to say.... yes i see there is already a lot of talk here about David being some kind of serial dater whacko

Not Russian, but Ukrainian women. He's traveled back and forth to the Ukraine around 15 times and, according to him, has "dated" over 100 women. We're not real sure what "dating" is to him (since he thinks he and Lana have been together for 7 years), but he claims to have been engaged at least twice. 

On 6/2/2020 at 10:46 AM, monagatuna said:

If you've ever dated men, you recognize David's MMMMs as the go-to move for dudes trying to make something happen when you know she's not into it. You know you'll get rejected if you full-on go for it, but you feel you have to try *something.* It's not sexy and in my experience, it never works, but it's ubiquitous among dudes who really really want physical contact from someone they know is not attracted to them.

I've never had a man do that to me, but I know a few creepy men who look like they'd be the type to. 

[charmed1]

7 hours ago, monagatuna said:

That is certainly how it comes off! Like I said, it is not very effective. And I'm only speaking from my own experience, so it may not be universal. But I used to date a lot and this happened more than once. Not from dudes as old as David, but it came off just as creepy.

OMG, now that you mention it, yes. Several times. These must be some type of repressed memories, but yes, I remember not only guys my age that I wasn’t attracted to, but also pervy older men did this too. None in leather trench coats with Chachi hair though.

[monagatuna]

12 hours ago, charmed1 said:

OMG, now that you mention it, yes. Several times. These must be some type of repressed memories, but yes, I remember not only guys my age that I wasn’t attracted to, but also pervy older men did this too. None in leather trench coats with Chachi hair though.

It took me a while to place it too. I know his MMs are off-putting, but I had a visceral stomach-turn reaction when I kept hearing it and it took me a minute to recognize why. There's also a pop song from the last 2-3 years that has a guy sort of high-pitched moaning and it set that same reaction off in me as well. I can't remember the song but it got a lot of play a couple of years ago. I wanna say it was Adam Levine or someone who sounds like him, but I can't remember. 

Man, I'm glad I'm married.

[RealReality]

21 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

My mom’s coworkers used to pressure her to go to a male strip club (in a neighboring state it was full nudity).  She would say “I have a husband and two sons.  I know what they look like.”

Are guys who send dick pics trying to prove that they don’t  have microphalluses?  Because as long as it’s in the normal range things should be fine.  It’s not like women send pics of their genitals to show how tight or loose they are. 

Exactly, unless your penis belongs in a porn or a medical journal it's not that interesting.  

[Teri313]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the pawn shop when Lana tries to cash in on that ring. LOL

[1011101010001]

3 hours ago, Teri313 said:

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the pawn shop when Lana tries to cash in on that ring. LOL

Yeah although on the Tell All leak he claimed she wanted to pick out her own ring and the CZ was just to appease production.

[Christina]

It looks like David got a haircut. I wonder if the comments about his hair made him decide it was time to tidy up. The woman is the daughter of a coworker or something.

 

That's not the same duster is it?

[1011101010001]

Hair looks way better.  The John Davidson look was popular in the 70s.

[libgirl2]

8 hours ago, Christina said:

It looks like David got a haircut. I wonder if the comments about his hair made him decide it was time to tidy up. The woman is the daughter of a coworker or something.

 

That's not the same duster is it?

He looks much better. He isnt a bad looking man.

[deirdra]

On 6/1/2020 at 10:56 AM, greekmom said:

Did he ask the sales associate if it's handy to use with long nails?

Maybe Lana should ask Darcey for lessons, since her nails are much longer.  Type with the pads, not the tips of your fingers. Lana did not seem to have problems using the app on David's phone or using her own phone to correspond to her friends.

[gingerella]

On 6/8/2020 at 10:51 AM, deirdra said:

Maybe Lana should ask Darcey for lessons, since her nails are much longer.  Type with the pads, not the tips of your fingers. Lana did not seem to have problems using the app on David's phone or using her own phone to correspond to her friends.

Wait, did I miss something? Did Lana ditch the new iPhone saying she couldn't use it easily? hahahhahaha! She seems to use the nice iPhone she already had quite easily. Did they say if they're still talking through that site again or is this over? I FF through his scenes...

[AZChristian]

28 minutes ago, gingerella said:

Wait, did I miss something? Did Lana ditch the new iPhone saying she couldn't use it easily? hahahhahaha! She seems to use the nice iPhone she already had quite easily. Did they say if they're still talking through that site again or is this over? I FF through his scenes...

They're still talking through the site, and David acknowledged she's also talking to other men.  And she's not answering the iPhone.

The problem with David's assertion that Lana complained that she couldn't use the phone because of her long nails . . . she didn't appear to HAVE long nails.

[magemaud]

"Juicy Sveta" is still on this dating site (at least) and her photos look positively wholesome compared to many of the other girls. David claims it's the only way she can continue to talk to her many "friends" to keep her from getting lonely because she couldn't manage using an iPhone due to her nails. Funny, I have an older model iPhone and thanks to Siri I can speak and it comes out as text. Minimal typing required! 

https://victoriyaclub.com/juicy-sveta-ID-77663-28-years-old/

[ALittleShelfish]

Man, that 90s technology keeps ruining all of David's best excuses.  

"All of her friends are on that site" okay so EVEN IF that were true, David... She managed to speak to one of them on the phone (her phone! short nails!) while she was deciding if she wanted to meet you or not.  

The denial is STRONG with that one.