S10.E10: Mama Drama

[sATL]

2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

It is a shooting range....but, specialized weapons like a rifle. 
 

Maybe he goes hunting and wants to get better.

Hunting (small/large game) is in a very specific season of year. Usually in the fall. Going to class in May doesn't line up.

Plus the gun is different. Shouldn't need a high power scope military rifle do to something you can get put of a sporting goods store.

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[Dance4Life]

31 minutes ago, sATL said:

Hunting (deer, rabbit, etc) is in a very specific season of year. Usually in the fall. Going to class in May doesn't line up.

Plus the gun is different. Shouldn't need a high power scope military rifle do to something you can get put of a sporting goods store.

Not not rabbits! 🤣

Bears or big game hunting in places like Africa. They bring them home for trophies.

I honestly do not get the fuss.  He is a big boy with money.

Maybe he is a vet.  He likes military and law enforcement activities.

Doctors think differently.  Death is something they see every day and do not get emotionally attached. I would not be surprised if he is a big game hunter.

 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Dance4Life

[sATL]

1 hour ago, Dance4Life said:

Not not rabbits! 🤣

Bears or big game hunting in places like Africa. They bring them home for trophies.

I honestly do not get the fuss.  He is a big boy with money.

Maybe he is a vet.  He likes military and law enforcement activities.

Doctors think differently.  Death is something they see every day and do not get emotionally attached. I would not be surprised if he is a big game hunter.

 

sorry for naming specific animals.. I made the correction. didn't mean to offend.

[Hiyo]

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That made me too think he didn't go to "sniper school".

Maybe that's their code for strip bar, who knows.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

12 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Yup....I had a name necklace (sparkly diamond kind) back in the 80's, when I was in my 20's - sold it in the early 2000's.  Probably should have kept it, but I think I'm too old for that now!  😂

I think I  may have mine still, probably tangled up in some drawer. I probably will need it in a few years as I get older and my memory goes to shit, I can then always look down and remember who the heck I am   

[zengirl1215]

The thing with Dolores and David, I often remind myself that I'm watching "reality TV" and a lot of it is heavily edited and manipulated to add friction and drama! And though I believe most of it isn't scripted I wonder if some conversations have already taken place OFF camera and then are re-done for the camera specifically for the show. Like we aren't sure what the time frame was between the Envy fashion show when David was allegedly at Sniper school and that dinner with Dolores after Mother's Day. Are we to assume Dolores hadn't talked to David in that whole time and hadn't asked him how the school was? And that she waited until that specific dinner while on camera to ask him. That makes me think David had already told her how it was and for the camera he kept his response short and to the point. Just playing devils advocate. 

That same goes for Jen's conversation with her mother in the kitchen after the drag queen stuff. Are we to assume the two didn't discuss how her mother felt about seeing the men dressed as women the entire ride home and Jen waited until the next day or later that evening while the camera's were rolling to bring the subject up for the first time? 

Maybe I'm just overanalyzing LOL!!!!! 

On a different note...I thought the Mother's Day luncheon looked like a lot of fun and I didn't blame Margaret for not inviting Tre. The two were at odds with one another and why should Margaret have to kiss Tre's ass. I actually saw the two of them in Atlantic City with Sonja (RHONY) on their tour and they were getting along just fine so I know they make amends at some point, which is good! 

 

 

[TattleTeeny]

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The Gorgas and Guidices had these really tacky homes on the Jersey shore which weren't even on Long Beach Island or any of the real beachfront towns. 

Even with shore traffic, they were about 10 minutes from the beach, probably less by boat. And the neighborhood is nice, if not exciting by nightlife/boardwalk standards--a lot of quiet dead-end streets backed by the lagoon.

Edited January 17, 2020 by TattleTeeny

[kicksave]

On 1/16/2020 at 1:03 PM, Juliegirlj said:

Margaret’s property is so beautiful- however I don’t understand why she decided a beautiful Mother’s Day brunch warranted a Drag Queen performance !! 

No doubt Delores and David are cooking up an engagement/ wedding storyline. 🤢

Margaret seems kind of emotionally vulnerable lately- the thing with Marge Sr is pretty sad. I liked that she was honest ( at least partially) about her lawsuit debts, and having to sell a parcel of her property. 
 

Not sure what Teresa’s end game is with the nasty attitude. 

I agree about the Drag Queen brunch...is this a new "thing" that suburban women do now? Didn't they have a drag queen bar in the last season of  Real Housewives of Orange County? That would be the last thing I would want to see on a Sunday afternoon let alone on Mother's Day...OMG! I felt badly for Jennifer's conservative mother...she's from a different time/place and was uncomfortable. It was crude and there was nothing "motherly" or wholesome about that "entertainment". A nice outdoor brunch with the moms would have just fine as is without bringing a sad display of Jersey drag queens into it. Yikes!

And the David/Delores thing is boring. What does she see in him anyway?  Besides being a physician I just don't see the chemistry. He seems totally uninterested in her, her friends or her family for that matter. Actually, he seems to be a bit of a prick when it comes to Delores's feelings and needs. She's wasting her time with this dolt. 

[esco1822]

14 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

The low-key Jackie I was beginning to like would have said, “I’ve got this house in the Hamptons that I usually rent out, but it’s free this weekend if you want to come stay.”  She would have outed herself before Jenn could out her.  I think Jackie was planning to show her hand about being wealthy this whole time, and this wasn’t the best way to do it.  I think a better strategy would have been to bring them to her investment property that she rents out, and let the women ask questions and let the answers come out organically.  Let Jennifer ask whether it’s true you get $50k to rent this place out, and kind of shrug.  To me, that’s “wealth whispering.”  Not saying, “well, I don’t want to brag!” when asked who is the richest NJ Housewife, or telling the $15k ring story, you know, in an effort to advance how “liberal” you are.

My only issue with this is that they went right after Mother's Day so we're talking just before the middle of May. Beach rental season doesn't start until Memorial Day so the likelihood of the house being booked when they were there is extremely unlikely. I wouldn't be surprised if they do spend some time there as a family in the off-season but use it for summer rentals so it basically pays for itself. 

[ghoulina]

18 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Marty said that Margaret was jealous because she was ugly and Danielle was so hot. And Margaret likes him why? Didn't see also push him in the pool? And now she cares about his relationship with Danielle?

Margaret is causing her own misery, IMO. She needs to stop trying so hard to be on this show-- she's more seeped in the storylines than the viewers!

Margaret only accepted Marty back in because she had an ally against Danielle. I like Margaret, but she is very hyper-focused on this Danielle thing and it's making her look ridiculous. She does not haven to prove to anyone why she has issues with Danielle. It will all come out in the wash. And now that Danielle and Marty are being all friendly again, I wouldn't be surprised if Margaret stops talking to him again.

[kicksave]

13 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Not not rabbits! 🤣

Bears or big game hunting in places like Africa. They bring them home for trophies.

I honestly do not get the fuss.  He is a big boy with money.

Maybe he is a vet.  He likes military and law enforcement activities.

Doctors think differently.  Death is something they see every day and do not get emotionally attached. I would not be surprised if he is a big game hunter.

 

Yes, doctors do think differently about death and dying but generally speaking pediatricians and obstetricians are probably more compassionate and caring than GPs or specialists. Having said that...I agree that he probably does the big game trophy hunting which makes me dislike him even more than I did before. What a creepy guy he is anyway let alone this...for someone who professes to love animals and has such attachment and love for her rescue dogs, I just find it sad that Delores would not find this aspect of her boyfriend disgusting. 

Edited January 17, 2020 by kicksave

[breezy424]

Where Jackie gets her money:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/where-jackie-goldschneiders-family-money-comes-from

[Jeanne222]

12 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Where Jackie gets her money:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/where-jackie-goldschneiders-family-money-comes-from

Interesting.  Thank you!

[Petunia13]

On 1/15/2020 at 8:48 PM, breezy424 said:

Hey, no Frank this episode. 

 

Frank was in the episode. 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, kicksave said:

And the David/Delores thing is boring. What does she see in him anyway?  Besides being a physician I just don't see the chemistry. He seems totally uninterested in her, her friends or her family for that matter. Actually, he seems to be a bit of a prick when it comes to Delores's feelings and needs. She's wasting her time with this dolt.

I think he is mentally chewing off his arm to get out of the trap.  I think he likes Delores but just not in that way.  There is no chemistry, he does not want to live with her and if she says she does not want a ring at least she will not be disappointed!

David would look less prick like if he ended things, from D's viewpoint it does look like she is being strung along but since that is the only viewpoint we see he looks like a prick.  David is probably a nice guy and is probably really good to his real girlfriend.

The next time David goes to Sniper Camp Delores should book the same class or at least follow him to the class because if I am passionate about something that I am doing I go on about every detail to anyone who will listen.  His lack of detail was suspicious.

[Jeanne222]

7 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I think he is mentally chewing off his arm to get out of the trap.  I think he likes Delores but just not in that way.  There is no chemistry, he does not want to live with her and if she says she does not want a ring at least she will not be disappointed!

David would look less prick like if he ended things, from D's viewpoint it does look like she is being strung along but since that is the only viewpoint we see he looks like a prick.  David is probably a nice guy and is probably really good to his real girlfriend.

The next time David goes to Sniper Camp Delores should book the same class or at least follow him to the class because if I am passionate about something that I am doing I go on about every detail to anyone who will listen.  His lack of detail was suspicious.

Sniper camp...is that kind of like snipe  hunting???   Lol

[politichick]

6 hours ago, zengirl1215 said:

The thing with Dolores and David, I often remind myself that I'm watching "reality TV" and a lot of it is heavily edited and manipulated to add friction and drama! And though I believe most of it isn't scripted I wonder if some conversations have already taken place OFF camera and then are re-done for the camera specifically for the show. Like we aren't sure what the time frame was between the Envy fashion show when David was allegedly at Sniper school and that dinner with Dolores after Mother's Day. Are we to assume Dolores hadn't talked to David in that whole time and hadn't asked him how the school was? And that she waited until that specific dinner while on camera to ask him. That makes me think David had already told her how it was and for the camera he kept his response short and to the point. Just playing devils advocate. 

That same goes for Jen's conversation with her mother in the kitchen after the drag queen stuff. Are we to assume the two didn't discuss how her mother felt about seeing the men dressed as women the entire ride home and Jen waited until the next day or later that evening while the camera's were rolling to bring the subject up for the first time? 

Maybe I'm just overanalyzing LOL!!!!! 

On a different note...I thought the Mother's Day luncheon looked like a lot of fun and I didn't blame Margaret for not inviting Tre. The two were at odds with one another and why should Margaret have to kiss Tre's ass. I actually saw the two of them in Atlantic City with Sonja (RHONY) on their tour and they were getting along just fine so I know they make amends at some point, which is good! 

 

 

Good point and I think that's exactly what they do. Lots of time when the wives are telling the husbands about something on the show some time has passed and I'm like, wait, you can't just be having that conversation now. Sometimes a whole day has passed.

A lot of people have speculated that David doesn't really love Delores. I think maybe he just doesn't love reality TV and actively limits his exposure because he has a very serious profession and does not want his reputation besmirched by being filmed at some of these shit show events, so he limits it to family type stuff or interactions with just Delores and him (and/or Frank). Also, whatever happened to Delores's daughter?

Just now, politichick said:

Good point and I think that's exactly what they do. Lots of time when the wives are telling the husbands about something on the show some time has passed and I'm like, wait, you can't just be having that conversation now. Sometimes a whole day has passed.

A lot of people have speculated that David doesn't really love Delores. I think maybe he just doesn't love reality TV and actively limits his exposure because he has a very serious profession and does not want his reputation besmirched by being filmed at some of these shit show events, so he limits it to family type stuff or interactions with just Delores and him (and/or Frank). Also, whatever happened to Delores's daughter?

Also, I thought it was good that Margaret didn't invite Teresa to the mothers brunch. They weren't getting along at the time and even if they were, as someone else noted, she would have been whinging about how she misses her mother and made the event a total downer.

[BrindaWalsh]

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Where Jackie gets her money:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/where-jackie-goldschneiders-family-money-comes-from

So much shade in that lol

 

5 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

Even with shore traffic, they were about 10 minutes from the beach, probably less by boat. And the neighborhood is nice, if not exciting by nightlife/boardwalk standards--a lot of quiet dead-end streets backed by the lagoon.

The Gorga and Giudice shore houses are tacky because they are tacky.  But you really can't compare where they are to beachfront hamptons.  Even if you were beachfront LBI you probably couldn't quite compare it - or even Stone Harbor or Spring Lake.  Hamptons just has the more impressive "brand."  That said, people have clear preferences.  If you prefer the Hamptons, you are never going to love the Jersey Shore and vice versa.  They are completely different animals.  

I get the impression that this is a forced storyline for Dolores, who has never been particularly interesting, and that David is irritated by the whole thing.  He probably agreed to filming because Dolores was getting so much pushback about her partner on the show really being her ex, instead of her current significant other, and he gave in.  The guys is a really well-respected high risk OB/GYN and he's forced to film with these nimrods and talk about who pushed who in the pool or whatever.  Can you blame the guy?

Margaret seemed really sad at the brunch.  Between the bankruptcy, the assault by Danielle, the fight with Teresa, and her not really seeing that much of her mother, you can tell that she's just really carrying a lot around emotionally.  The sadness and frustration was seeping through big time. I hope that something resolves soon to ease her heart and mind.

 

[TattleTeeny]

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The Gorga and Giudice shore houses are tacky because they are tacky.  But you really can't compare where they are to beachfront hamptons.  Even if you were beachfront LBI you probably couldn't quite compare it - or even Stone Harbor or Spring Lake.  Hamptons just has the more impressive "brand."  That said, people have clear preferences.  If you prefer the Hamptons, you are never going to love the Jersey Shore and vice versa.  They are completely different animals. 

I wasn't comparing anything and/or judging the houses (and I don't care about "brand")--all I said was that they were close to the beach and in a nice neighborhood. And what? Why on earth couldn't someone like both the Hamptons and the JS?

[ichbin]

17 hours ago, Axie said:

Does anyone else thing it’s kind of odd that a doctor would go to sniper school?  I mean a snipers purpose is the opposite of a doctor’s.  

Is it possible he is in the military reserves?  I think they have something referred to as sniper school. 

[sATL]

Is the Jackie "Hamptons" the same "Hamptons" that the food network personality  Barefoot Contessa film location ?

Edited January 17, 2020 by sATL

[amarante]

36 minutes ago, sATL said:

Is the Jackie "Hamptons" the same "Hamptons" that the food network personality  Barefoot Contessa film location ?

There are several Hamptons with Easthampton and  Southampton being the most prestigious. I believe Jackie’s home is West Hampton. There are various locations within each of these which are more exclusive or prestigious. 

Beach front pretty much trumps most other locations although there are some ponds that are wildly expensive and estates there can be in the $10,000,000 range. Bethenny’s place had some amount of land although not beach front. 

In any event the canal homes on the Jersey Shore don’t compare in value at all. I am not comparing prestige but just desirability of the actual real estate. The Gorga and Guidice homes were essentially crap little homes squeezed onto a canal. 

[bravofan27]

Sniper School is for people in the Army. He probably just paid a lot of money for a "cool" sounding class where he could be sharpshooting and feel like a bad ass. Sniper school is not for civilians, and even if David was in the army, he's too old to be active in anything at this point. The age limit is 42 or something. So it's just Dolorles wanting to have a manly guy that can kill people, because she's gangster like that.

I used to like Dorlores but I'm starting to think she's really dumb and a big time enabler of male machismo and violence, thinking it makes her seem old school Italian or something. She's a dodo.

[kicksave]

5 hours ago, sATL said:

Is the Jackie "Hamptons" the same "Hamptons" that the food network personality  Barefoot Contessa film location ?

The Barefoot Contessa lives in East Hampton...that is the more sought after Hampton for the rich and famous. She has lived there for a long time.

[Hockey Addict]

Gia and Milania are little, delusional, brats. Gia, has lived a life of privilage that was all a sham

[breezy424]

8 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Frank was in the episode. 

Yeah, my bad.  Someone mentioned Frank in a post a while back.  At least he wasn't prominent.  It wouldn't have surprised me if he were there having lunch at the hospital with David and Delores.

[TattleTeeny]

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In any event the canal homes on the Jersey Shore don’t compare in value at all. I am not comparing prestige but just desirability of the actual real estate. The Gorga and Guidice homes were essentially crap little homes squeezed onto a canal. 

Who here is comparing them? I certainly didn't. And it's lagoon that leads out to the open water. Maybe those particular homes are "crap" and "little" to some snobbier people, but there are plenty of nice homes (many little, as it was basically a summer home area for decades; the giant ones are relatively recent) in that exact neighborhood. 

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Gia and Milania are little, delusional, brats. Gia, has lived a life of privilage that was all a sham

Yeah, silly, complicit kids! What kind of children don't understand the crooked dealings of their parents?!

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[Jeanne222]

7 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I wasn't comparing anything and/or judging the houses (and I don't care about "brand")--all I said was that they were close to the beach and in a nice neighborhood. And what? Why on earth couldn't someone like both the Hamptons and the JS?

I think one's champagne and one's beer!  Most people prefer one over the other!  Lol

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Sniper School is for people in the Army. He probably just paid a lot of money for a "cool" sounding class where he could be sharpshooting and feel like a bad ass. Sniper school is not for civilians, and even if David was in the army, he's too old to be active in anything at this point. The

There are definitely private companies that do sniper training and allow non-military from law enforcement to civilian security to people like David who want an “adventure”.

[LemonSoda]

14 hours ago, sATL said:

Is the Jackie "Hamptons" the same "Hamptons" that the food network personality  Barefoot Contessa film location ?

Ina is in East Hampton. Same “Hamptons” but different area. Jackie’s area is nice but that section is mostly rentals squeezed together. Not knocking it, it’s a lovely home. 
 

 

[Hiyo]

Yeah, the Hamptons is a big, diverse area, which covers lots of hamlets and villages, with some areas more exclusive and pricier than others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hamptons

[TattleTeeny]

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I think one's champagne and one's beer!  Most people prefer one over the other!  Lol

Right--again, no one said they're the same. However, it is not impossible to like both, sort of like how people can like both champagne and beer. Not sure what's difficult to understand about this. Personally, I'd probably take any beach house I could get (though, judging by today's temperature here in RHoNJ territory, gimme a year-round one south of the equator; north Jersey winters can suck it).

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[amarante]

2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

Right--again, no one said they're the same. However, it is not impossible to like both, sort of like how people can like both champagne and beer. Not sure what's difficult to understand about this. Personally, I'd probably take any beach house I could get (though, judging by today's temperature here in RHoNJ territory, gimme a year-round one south of the equator; north Jersey winters can suck it).

It's really not a question of what social milieu people want to be associated with.

At least for me, it was just an observation on the actual value of real estate which is based on location and the actual house on that location.

Whether Jackie's home is rented for some portion of the time or not, it is worth more than the Gorga's or Giudice's homes on the canal which were ticky tacky homes on a canal - not beach front. In any other location they would be considered to be inexpensive starter homes. Jackie's West Hampton home was beach front and the actual house itself was one that objectively would be considered quite lovely whatever the location. 

Jackie has effectively hidden the fact that she is wealthy versus just being upper class professional until this episode. I would imagine that none of the housewives except Jackie has any kind of assets beyond their housewives salary or, in Jennifer's case, her husband's earnings. While plastic surgeons might make a lot of money. anyone on a salary isn't wealthy -  no matter how much you charge for a procedure, you are still limited by the hours in the day in terms of amount of procedures you can do. It would not be surprising if Dr. Jennifer did not have a huge amount of assets aside from the house which might be heavily mortgaged. 

Wealthy people can afford their lifestyle without a salary coming in. Fake wealthy people like Margaret don't have a relatively small amount of assets to cover a judgment. Her Vineyard judgment was only about $200,000 which is a relative pittance in terms of assets. 

 

[TattleTeeny]

I never said anything about worth or posited that the homes or levels of prestige were the same; I pointed out that Teresa's place was not far from the beach and that it was indeed possible to appreciate both places, that's all (but what is wrong with the "canal"? I am so legit confused, as it's really nice there, though Hurricane Sandy took a nasty toll on that area).

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[geauxaway]

14 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

I never said anything about worth or posited that the homes or levels of prestige were the same; I pointed out that Teresa's place was not far from the beach and that it was indeed possible to appreciate both places, that's all (but what is wrong with the "canal"? I am so legit confused, as it's really nice there, though Hurricane Sandy took a nasty toll on that area).

Yah, I don’t get the “canal” hate either.  I mean, you’ve got to park your boat somewhere, right?  They have direct access to open water.  Don’t they also have a pool?  The Gorga / Guidice shore houses looked perfectly nice and lovely for a 2nd home.  I know people who have a LOT smaller and older homes in northern WI and MN that are lake homes and still worth $500k or more.  Obviously Jackie thinks she is better because Hamptons.  It does have an air about it, but since I don’t live there and didn’t grow up there, both are just places I see on TV.   I wonder what side of the Montauk Highway Jackie’s house is on 🤣.  

[TattleTeeny]

All I know is while, yes, I think I'd prefer Jackie's beachside version (were anyone to give me a choice in free shore homes!), but I'd take any of them--but I hear the flood insurance is a killer and I think you have to raise the waterside homes now, which I assume is big fat bucks. But on the ol' "canal," you can do the whole crab trap thing and sometimes clams (though most people head out to the bay for that, I think). And if you love that beachy, breezy, salty smell, it's there (maybe that's just me--I love it). And yes, parking the boat, haha (do you say "park" a boat? I don't know!).

But speaking of properties, I really dug Margaret's. The yard is so not cookie-cutter and has very cool vibe to me. I can't quite get an idea of her actual house though, the style of it. I think I like it, but I have trouble envisioning layouts.

ETA: I think I just jinxed myself by musing about summer because here comes the stupid-ass snow.

 

Edited January 18, 2020 by TattleTeeny

[BrindaWalsh]

I actually think that Jackie is probably the wealthiest of the group. And i dont think she ever presented herself as upper middle class?

Tre has gone through the bankruptcy.  Dolores doesn't come close.  Didn't Margaret declare bankruptcy in the past year or so?  

Jennifer and Melissa probably clme close but of the husbands Evan is pulling the highest salary heading up a hedgefund.  And both came into their marriage with money.  And Jackie had taken her trust fund and invested in the Hamptons house and some manhattan apartments. And given that evan is in finance you can confidently say that there are other financial investments somewhere.   Unless the Gorgas and Aydins have additional assets like that (and we don't know what Evan might have come to the marriage with), then, yes.  The Goldschneiders have the most.  They just seem more discreet onscreen than 18-bathroom-jennifer, gold-rolex-melissa and pay-all-cash-nothing-to-see-here-teresa.

And as for the houses, the gorga and giudice houses are tacky because they have tacky taste lol.  But hamptons beachfront, regardless of which hampton town, is going to have greater value than beach haven west.  That's just a fact.  But as the shore front towns get more and more expensive, the value of the bayfront regions like beach haven west are just going to appreciate.  Especially if you want actual waterfront.    

I wouldn't turn down any of the three.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

On 1/15/2020 at 8:27 PM, Stats Queen said:

Friends don’t need to see other friends vaginas. (Just my opinion)

You must have missed every single HW show, half of them think it is necessary to bring an entourage of HW's to the doctor's office for the o shot or vaginal rejuvenation.

 

[TattleTeeny]

I'll take tacky beach too (as evidenced by the many shore rentals I've paid a fortune to stay and get drunk in), just get me out of this stupid snowhole, dammit. (Man, I am old and crotchety and I haven't even needed to go out in it today.)

[LibertarianSlut]

Not to get too bogged down in minutiae, but Jackie said her place was in Westhampton Beach, which is different from Westhampton (not gonna opine as to which one is “better,” because that’s subjective, but I think one is more prestigious than the other).

Her house is definitely south of Montauk Highway (the only beachfront in the Hamptons that’s north of MH are bays and rivers, which aren’t as nice IMO). I think Jackie’s house is right on the Atlantic Ocean. It doesn’t get much better than that.  

[breezy424]

Just an FYI.  Melissa and Joe's new house is on Barnegat Bay.

https://realityblurb.com/2019/07/16/exclusive-rhonjs-melissa-gorga-and-husband-joe-buy-975k-new-jersey-shore-house-see-photos-of-inside-and-the-beautiful-views/

[Stats Queen]

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Just an FYI.  Melissa and Joe's new house is on Barnegat Bay.

https://realityblurb.com/2019/07/16/exclusive-rhonjs-melissa-gorga-and-husband-joe-buy-975k-new-jersey-shore-house-see-photos-of-inside-and-the-beautiful-views/

Wow, do we want to start a pool when for when they declare bankruptcy?

[Kiki777]

Did anyone else notice Teresa driving a Maserati on this episode?  Dumb, dumb, dumb.  Sure she makes a lot of money (for now) but she blows it all on magic beans.

[Baltimore Betty]

On 1/16/2020 at 11:20 PM, Axie said:

Does anyone else thing it’s kind of odd that a doctor would go to sniper school?  I mean a snipers purpose is the opposite of a doctor’s.  

I have to figure he needs a stress reliever of some sort so it makes sense to me.

[LibertarianSlut]

On 1/19/2020 at 12:17 PM, breezy424 said:

Just an FYI.  Melissa and Joe's new house is on Barnegat Bay.

https://realityblurb.com/2019/07/16/exclusive-rhonjs-melissa-gorga-and-husband-joe-buy-975k-new-jersey-shore-house-see-photos-of-inside-and-the-beautiful-views/

I clicked on the link and...I need eye bleach.  That house is so awful.  It looks like the Brady Bunch would live there.  The only way I could imagine justifying putting the pictures up for the media were if they were showing it as a “before.”  Oh my God, I have never seen something so tacky and dated in my life.  I really hope they have plans to gut that place, and I’m not just saying this because I dislike Melissa. 

Her primary residence is nice enough, even though we found out it was made of fake shit when they had to put it on the market (and then took it off when there were no buyers).  But it has clean, modern lines...and the kitchen surfaces aren’t orange!  This beach house is something else.  And the article said it’s in Tom’s River?  Isn’t that where Melissa is from?  I didn’t even know that was down the shore enough to be considered the Jersey Shore.  

Since there seem to be a lot of people on here familiar with both NJ and NY beaches, is Tom’s River like Quogue, where it is just on the border of what is considered The Shore?  Where does The Shore begin, if anyone knows?  Like, what is the northernmost point someone can go to and still be “down the shore”?  I’m just curious.  Thanks.

[Baltimore Betty]

I have the happiest childhood memories from my summers in Beach Haven, my parents would rent a house on the ocean block and we would ride our bikes all over that town.  The house we liked the most was 3 houses away from the beach, the owner wanted to sell and was asking $10,00, this was the early to mid 70's and my parents thought it was crazy to pay that much for a shack with (orange counter tops) by the ocean...le sigh.

 

[SweetieDarling]

I usually associate "going down the shore" with being withing walking distance from the beach. If they're on a back bay with water access, I'd probably consider that "down the shore" as well, especially if they're on the island and/or have a boat or other watercraft for the short trip to the ocean. MMV.

It's not so much how far north, as much as how far inland. Imo, if you have to drive to the beach (assuming you're an able bodied individual), it's not "down the shore".

[TattleTeeny]

I think you're still down the shore if you're in a "shore town," whether or not you find it close enough to walk to the beach. 

[heatherchandler]

On 1/17/2020 at 2:57 PM, BrindaWalsh said:

So much shade in that lol

This is the BEST quote:

If you look in my closet, you'll see probably double the amount of Chanel bags that Jennifer has, but I would never put that on Instagram because it's tacky.

 

 

 

On 1/18/2020 at 1:36 PM, BrindaWalsh said:

I actually think that Jackie is probably the wealthiest of the group. And i dont think she ever presented herself as upper middle class?

Tre has gone through the bankruptcy.  Dolores doesn't come close.  Didn't Margaret declare bankruptcy in the past year or so?  

Jennifer and Melissa probably clme close but of the husbands Evan is pulling the highest salary heading up a hedgefund.  And both came into their marriage with money.  And Jackie had taken her trust fund and invested in the Hamptons house and some manhattan apartments. And given that evan is in finance you can confidently say that there are other financial investments somewhere.   Unless the Gorgas and Aydins have additional assets like that (and we don't know what Evan might have come to the marriage with), then, yes.  The Goldschneiders have the most.  They just seem more discreet onscreen than 18-bathroom-jennifer, gold-rolex-melissa and pay-all-cash-nothing-to-see-here-teresa.

And as for the houses, the gorga and giudice houses are tacky because they have tacky taste lol.  But hamptons beachfront, regardless of which hampton town, is going to have greater value than beach haven west.  That's just a fact.  But as the shore front towns get more and more expensive, the value of the bayfront regions like beach haven west are just going to appreciate.  Especially if you want actual waterfront.    

I wouldn't turn down any of the three. 

 

I don't think Joe even works anymore.  He needs to sell that house they live in to buy land, and build another spec house.  I don't think the Gorgas have any income except for the show. 

I bet the new shore house is going to be a flip. 

Remember when Theresa (or the bank?) was trying to sell her shore house and there were NO bidders?  The bank couldn't get anyone to buy it.  If I remember correctly, they were down to asking $1.00.  I don't remember what eventually happened with it.

 

[StrongbyDefault]

On 1/20/2020 at 2:08 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

Since there seem to be a lot of people on here familiar with both NJ and NY beaches, is Tom’s River like Quogue, where it is just on the border of what is considered The Shore?  Where does The Shore begin, if anyone knows?  Like, what is the northernmost point someone can go to and still be “down the shore”?  I’m just curious.  Thanks.

If you look at a map of NJ, there are barrier islands up much of the southern coastline.  Most of the ocean beach resorts in the south are on the east side of those barrier islands (LBI, Seaside, to name a couple big ones).  Toms River is on the mainland coast and to get to the barrier island where the Seaside resort is at (and the ocean front) you have to go through Toms River and over a bridge to the island (or boat across the bay to the island).  So they're on the bay but not ocean side.  They look across the bay to the Seaside barrier island.  Everyone down here still considers Toms River "down the shore" because it's still a resort area on the water with boating, fishing and salt water.  But you have to drive or boat over to the actual ocean.  There are no barrier islands further north so the northern beaches (Spring Lake, Belmar, Asbury Park) are on the main coast but right on the ocean.