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Bellino had to pay Shannon 140k to cover her legal fees.  Tamra’s must be more than that at this point.  At a wwhl after show, Kelly admitted that she had threatened to appear as a character witness against Tamra if the case went to court.  It was probably just her usual big fat mouth talking, but Tamra and Shannon weren’t amused.

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10 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Is it a requirement for Vicki to wear an too small, ill-fitting, ugly white dress at the season finale party?  It seems that she wears something like this every season.

ETA:  She actually has two too small, ill-fitting ugly white dresses for this finale???  WTF? 

Usually with cut-outs, so we can appreciate the rolls of her back fat.

And just when you think her taste and styling can't get any worse, she changed into the 2nd dress.

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9 hours ago, escape said:

You have to remember that she and her sister basically raised themselves.  As children, they had to look after their own mother - who suffers from mental illness.  Emily is actually one of the more likeable of the cast.

Pretty low bar, but I was giving her a pass for awhile. However, she lets her brat kid kick the dog, drags her other kid to a Doctor's appt. to discuss a serious issue, then totally traumatizes her (been there, thought my mom was gonna die from gallbladder surgery, because little brains don't reason well), and the final straw has been all her ageist snarks about the other ladies. There is plenty to snark on, but they can't do anything about their age, you whiny, wimpy, lazy mother, fat bitch. All things you CAN control. Emily can take her dear friend, the obnoxious Emily and go back where they came from. Off the show.

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8 hours ago, nexxie said:

On WWHL tonight Jeff Lewis showed up to surprise Shannon and mentioned that he and Andy spoke about a much needed show revamp - adding that Shannon and Kelly are safe. Hmm...

What does this even mean? They are safe? From what? Are we now correlating Tamra with a natural disaster that people need to be marked safe from? 

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4 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

What does this even mean? They are safe? From what? Are we now correlating Tamra with a natural disaster that people need to be marked safe from? 

Right is Jeff Lewis now in charge of hiring and firing of the housewives? I mean I know he has a super inflated sense of self but come on

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9 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Can someone explain this whole lawsuit that Shannon and Tamra are involved in, and how Kelly is also involved? I only know it involves Jim Bellini, but I don't think it has ever actually been explained on the show. Or if it was I missed it.

Tamra running and hiding in plain sight in the bushes reminds me of a pet or a child when they think that if they can't see you, you can't see them. My apologies to children and pets though, who are generally both way smarter than Tamra.

I know this is an UO, but I think Emily is a shitty mother. I grew up with a mother who had severe heart problems and was not able to do many things that other mothers could. She also was hospitalized several times during my childhood. I was always afraid that I was going to lose her, but NEVER ONCE did that fear come from my mother. She never once complained, or heaven forbid leaned on me for support. I have no patience for the drama queen that is Emily.

Also, she should have been kicking up her heels when she heard that she would be having a hip replacement and would be good as new, rather than boo hooing about it. My hubby had a knee replacement a year ago - he could not wait. His best friend had a hip replacement two years ago, and the second hip replaced a month ago. Could not wait for either surgery, and was so grateful to be pain free. Go away, Emily. 

Totally agree about her bad mothering. I stopped watching after that, but it's recorded so I will watch later with the wonderful fast forward feature. However, I have to defend her on the crying. I am deathly afraid of going under for surgery. A childhood neighbor went in to have her tonsils out at age 6 and died on the table. Realistically, I know that was over 50 years ago, medicine has advanced, etc. Still scares me. However, my kid never once heard about that incident or picked up the fear and a child should have never been present for that.

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12 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

What does this even mean? They are safe? From what? Are we now correlating Tamra with a natural disaster that people need to be marked safe from? 

He seemed to suggest that someone needed to go - but not Shannon or Kelly. It’s in the first few minutes of the show if anyone wants to check it out.

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17 minutes ago, chlban said:

Pretty low bar, but I was giving her a pass for awhile. However, she lets her brat kid kick the dog, drags her other kid to a Doctor's appt. to discuss a serious issue, then totally traumatizes her (been there, thought my mom was gonna die from gallbladder surgery, because little brains don't reason well), and the final straw has been all her ageist snarks about the other ladies. There is plenty to snark on, but they can't do anything about their age, you whiny, wimpy, lazy mother, fat bitch. All things you CAN control. Emily can take her dear friend, the obnoxious Emily and go back where they came from. Off the show.

I hear you, Chlban, the bloom is coming off Emily's rose for me too.  She has her good points, but I'm getting the feeling that she's trying to get the viewing audience to side with her against her husband. I mean, we do, but this playing it out on tv is just not healthy. 

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8 hours ago, nexxie said:

On WWHL tonight Jeff Lewis showed up to surprise Shannon and mentioned that he and Andy spoke about a much needed show revamp - adding that Shannon and Kelly are safe. Hmm...

I could live with that. Not a Kelly fan, but have recently realized she is actually smarter than the others-yes, I realize that is a VERY low bar-but she seemed to at least know who Hemingway was, and now I hear she referenced JFK, Jr. failing the bar twice, so.... But, I will bet Tamra isn't going either. They really need to get rid of Emily, Gina and Boringwind and she will take her awful mother and gay husband with her.  

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1 hour ago, ChitChat said:

I was signing in to say the same thing!  I found Gina's running commentary about the whole thing very entertaining!

It was interesting how he managed to worm his way into a Housewives franchise again.  Hmmm.  

It's hard to believe that it's been 10 years since Duff's been on the show.  He looks good, but definitely showing his age now.

Also interesting that, given the small clip of conversation we saw him having with one of the husbands (Eddie, maybe?), he's now obviously into some type of cannabis/marijuana business.  

I guess he wasn't "hot" enough for Shannon, and he's now a one and done!  I would have much rathered see some of the former housewives that were supposedly friends with Vicki.  Where was Jeana Keough?  

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My take on Emily crying in the doctor's office was more about knowing that her husband wasn't going o be there for her and not necessarily crying about the surgery.

I googled the lawsuit, and Kelly has NOTHING to do with it.  Just Tamra and her big mouth again. 

Next up on the Google.....Matt's domestic violence against Gina.  WTF??

I've read on here that Kelly was engaged, I skim sometimes and assumed it was to Brian, so I googled that too.  Her fiance is pretty cute.  She looks hammered in a pic where she's flashing her rock....hope the new guy loves the crazy that is Kelly.  

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Does anyone know when this show was filmed?  Vickie and Steve are still not married? Come on they are not planning a royal wedding and this is the third marriage for both. I hope that Vickie is not going to go all out like Laurie and waltz down the aisle in a white wedding gown like the blusing bride that she is not. But I suspect if she returns we will be treated to a season of Vickie dress shopping with the rest of the cast in tow and a gross disgusting wedding shower where they all screech and scream at strippers.  Ugh! 

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1 hour ago, chlban said:

Pretty low bar, but I was giving her a pass for awhile. However, she lets her brat kid kick the dog, drags her other kid to a Doctor's appt

Yes. And the brat kid that kicks the dog will be an abuser of mom someday soon. Probably kicking her in her hip or knee that she had replaced. 

I see enough bratty, fucked up A-hole kids out and about where I live. I don't need more of them on any TV show. 

And just an FYI to all parents of bratty A-hole kids in OC California, I WILL call you out, confront you, and shame you in public if your brat kid does something bratty to me or anyone else. Call the cops on me. I don't care. 

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10 hours ago, antfitz said:

 I agree about Sean. And they say he already has his license in Utah..... How can he keep failing this one.  He must not be very smart.  Branwin's mother has to acknowlege her age.  She looks stupid in that get up she wears.

I really feel sorry for Gina, buying the krapp that matt is putting out.  If she takes him back, he will continue to cheat on her and abuse her.  Those kids do not need to live in that kind of atmosphere. 

While Shane is a total dick, the California Bar is one of the three hardest Bar Exams to pass in the country, if not the hardest.  The passage rate is ridiculously low and regardless of what Bar exam you are taking, the chances of passing actually decrease with each additional attempt.  I passed the MA Bar on my first attempt, but I know many that flunked CA , NY, and FL who were easily able to pass MA.  I sure as hell wouldn't want it to be a story line on Bravo.  

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Tamra in the bushes lol. Anything to get the camera on her.

I wish they'd fire everyone except Kelly. There is nothing interesting about any of these women. They don't even have good clothes or house porn. Complete overhaul is needed. You know it's bad when you're wishing it was Wed and you could watch the Jersey bitches. I find them much more entertaining.

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1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

It's hard to believe that it's been 10 years since Duff's been on the show.  He looks good, but definitely showing his age now.

Also interesting that, given the small clip of conversation we saw him having with one of the husbands (Eddie, maybe?), he's now obviously into some type of cannabis/marijuana business.  

I guess he wasn't "hot" enough for Shannon, and he's now a one and done!  I would have much rathered see some of the former housewives that were supposedly friends with Vicki.  Where was Jeana Keough?  

I think he was too crude for her.  He was obnoxious AF on their date.  

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1 hour ago, AttackTurtle said:

While Shane is a total dick, the California Bar is one of the three hardest Bar Exams to pass in the country, if not the hardest.  The passage rate is ridiculously low and regardless of what Bar exam you are taking, the chances of passing actually decrease with each additional attempt.  I passed the MA Bar on my first attempt, but I know many that flunked CA , NY, and FL who were easily able to pass MA.  I sure as hell wouldn't want it to be a story line on Bravo.  

And what kind of wife, friend, relative, or complete stranger pulls out their phone to check passing status in public, at a wedding reception in front of a boatload of people, or on TV in front of millions of people? And then has the audacity to end her season with a plea to Shane to be a better husband?

Shane may be an ass at times, but Emily is basically begging for it.  I posted awhile ago that while it usually takes 2-3 seasons to get a reasonable understanding of these women, we may have seen as much as we'll ever need to of Emily in her inaugural season.  So far that's panned out.

I can't get down on Shane anymore.  They need therapy or they need to divorce.  I'm not sure which.

Having said all this, I enjoyed this season.   Other than Vicki and Kelly, the women do have intersting lives and stories to tell - even Tamra regarding her two sons (she needs to go to family therapy with both, I feel). And, I'm FINALLY liking Shannon again.  She did a 360 for me and she landed in a much better place than where she started.

As to Vicki and Kelly, neither offers much to share about their personal lives.  Vicki's kids are gone and I think we are all in agreement that her faux engagement will never amount to anything.  And Kelly doesn't work and has only one young child at home.  All we see her do is date rich men.

They really are peas in a pod at this point in terms of what they offer.

Vicki is icky, but despite her friend status, she was on screen more than not and without her, the show would have been less entertaining I feel.

I know this is going against the grain, but I'd like to see Vicki back as a full-time wife, but only in the back-seat - not the queen bee.  More like Ramona in NYC.

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Brooks personality was creepy and smarmy but at least he had a personality and at least he acted like he was interested in Vicki. Steve-O is aloof and checked out. 

I don’t blame Emily for being upset about needing hip replacement. That dork of a husband certainly won’t nurse Emily back to health, nor will he likely look after their kids while she heals. Any major surgery has pros and cons, as well as risk, which can be frightening for a mom of young kids. No doubt Emily was grateful for the empathy she got from the doc. 

As much as I dislike Shane, I found it very passive aggressive and downright bitchy for Emily to bring up the bar results at the party. Shane is a creep, but their marriage woes rest on BOTH their shoulders. 

Kelly seemed heavily medicated. Maybe Dr Brian dosed her up on Xanax or something. ( for his own sanity)

Shannon is getting close to the tipping point of having too much plastic surgery. 

Tamra is a weirdo. 

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8 minutes ago, Jextella said:

I posted awhile ago that while it usually takes 2-3 seasons to get a reasonable understanding of these women, with Emily, I think we saw as much as we'd ever see in her inaugural season.

She used her mother's mental illness as a story line.

Now she's using her young child as an emotional crutch and sympathy ploy.

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11 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I know it is unpopular but I was amused by Gina in her THs during Tamra's meltdown and fake crying in the bushes.

Me too. I literally LOL'ed so loud that I startled my kitten who was asleep on my lap. Best part of the show for me. 

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8 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Brooks personality was creepy and smarmy but at least he had a personality and at least he acted like he was interested in Vicki. Steve-O is aloof and checked out. 

Brooks worked HARD for that money.  He is a committed con man.  

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12 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Shane’s horribleness took even more dimensions this week. Emily needs her hip replace and he’s being horrible.

While she's at it she should also replace her husband. 

Emily, please don't damage your children by continuing to live in that toxic household. Leave the relationship, then get yourself some serious therapy. She said herself she has anger issues, Shane pushes her buttons and she's always exploding. It must be a real joy to live with those two. 

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13 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Oh please!

Kelly sending a tweet to Jim Bellino didn't get her a summons to appear in court.

Stop acting like that tweet incurred additional fees to your lawyers

Bye Rodent Face

Tamra looked very scary when she was yelling at Kelly over the lawsuit. Tamra said she spent $300K on legal fees for the defamation suit. That seems to be high.

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12 hours ago, Emmeline said:

My ex-husband was a person that could not express emotion.  He could not offer support, express sympathy or compassion.   We were together a longtime until I just couldn’t stand it any longer.  All I wanted was a pat on the back or a squeeze of my hand saying everything will be okay.  I see the same behavior in Shane.  She should dump him before she wastes anymore time.  He is not going to change.  I wish I hadn’t wasted time on my ex.

Yes I agree and understand.  My husband can’t show emotion because his mother never gave him any love or affection.  He doesn’t know how, but he’s so good in other ways and would do anything for me and the kids.  They say to make a list of pros and cons.  If the pros out weigh the cons, keep him.  Mine does.  Some men are mushy .. some just aren’t.  I just can’t figure out if Emily’s husband loves her or not.  They did get married on a whim and were just friends at the time, so who knows if there was ever any love there from the start.  Some men just can’t show affection, but it doesn’t mean they don’t love you.  Maybe Shane is that guy.  Plus, if you tell all this to a guy, they still don’t get it.  They don’t get too much, lol.

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Why is Steve marrying Vicki? He doesn't seem to be the least bit interested in her and never has a nice thing to say to her. I bet there wasn't even a proposal. Vicki probably talked him in to it and then bought the ring herself. There is not one ounce of romance or connection between those two. 

Also, Vicki's brother Billy is an asshole. Even if you don't think the marriage is going to work, buck up and be pleasant at your sister's party. 

Eddie telling Tamra not to drink so much. Priceless. 

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9 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

While she's at it she should also replace her husband. 

Emily, please don't damage your children by continuing to live in that toxic household. Leave the relationship, then get yourself some serious therapy. She said herself she has anger issues, Shane pushes her buttons and she's always exploding. It must be a real joy to live with those two. 

I think Emily wanted to embarrass him at the dinner by letting everyone know his bar exam results. He didn't want to know the results.

It's very tough to see them argue with each other. There is so much pent up hostility between them.

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1 minute ago, bichonblitz said:

Why is Steve marrying Vicki? He doesn't seem to be the least bit interested in her and never has a nice thing to say to her. I bet there wasn't even a proposal. Vicki probably talked him in to it and then bought the ring herself. There is not one ounce of romance or connection between those two. 

Also, Vicki's brother Billy is an asshole. Even if you don't think the marriage is going to work, buck up and be pleasant at your sister's party. 

Eddie telling Tamra not to drink so much. Priceless. 

I don’t get why Steve is marrying Vikie either.  He looked like he didn’t want to be at that party, or with her.  She probably proposed to herself, made all the arrangements, and put a gun to his head?  Maybe he likes being in her house and getting daily you know what’s.

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The Jim Bellino lawsuit was based on Tamra and Shannon making derogatory comments on Heather McDonald’s podcast. Allegedly Tamra and Shannon spoke about the Bellino divorce being fake ( it wasn’t), and about Jim’s trampoline business getting sued, and the possibility of Jim going to jail because of someone being injured (no jail). 

Shannon was removed from the defamation lawsuit and was awarded $138,000 for legal fees. Tamra is still fighting Bellino in court. 

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3 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

The Jim Bellino lawsuit was based on Tamra and Shannon making derogatory comments on Heather McDonald’s podcast. Allegedly Tamra and Shannon spoke about the Bellino divorce being fake ( it wasn’t), and about Jim’s trampoline business getting sued, and the possibility of Jim going to jail because of someone being injured (no jail). 

Shannon was removed from the defamation lawsuit and was awarded $138,000 for legal fees. Tamra is still fighting Bellino in court. 

Thanks for the explanation as I was going to ask about that.

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13 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Go away Dr. Deb! Probably not to Mexico tho after your latest five finger discounts at the souvenir store.

Shane is just so flat and emotionless, could he be on the spectrum ?

Shannon was on "fire" tonight! Literally!

I give Vicki and Steve 2-3 years if they do actually get married.

Tamra was like a drunk girl at her prom running off crying and hiding in the bushes and wanting someone to come find her and give her attention.

And fake crying hysterically like she was having a nervous breakdown on the curb.  Her final performance to secure her orange.  It was so over the top.  I don’t know what kind of hold she has on stupid Shannon either.

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9 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Is it wrong to be filled wit Glee when Tamrat mentions (or screams) that she has spent 300K so far on this lawsuit? I hope it breaks her. No wonder she's working so hard to stay on the show. 

I will be filled with glee if and when Eddie dumps her.  I can just imagine what Tamra and Vikie do to keep their men.  That’s all they got.

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2 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Tamra in the bushes lol. Anything to get the camera on her.

Yeah, but I was hoping Gina would have just taken a few steps and given up looking for her.

It just extended Tamra's run and hide scene in the episode.  Would have been much more fun for her to say "whatever, back to the line dancing."

ETA: for her trouble she gets a couple dozen YOU DON'T KNOW!s

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Re:  Jeff Lewis saying that Vicki and Shannon are "safe"....That was just Jeff's opinion.  In other words, he was saying, if it was up to him, those two would be safe, while others would need to go.

I also listened to Jeff Lewis' show when Andy was on, and it's clear that Jeff doesn't care for Emily or Gina, but loves Kelly.  Again, all Jeff's opinion.  Jeff was trying to get Andy's opinion, but Andy was trying his hardest to play it cool.  Andy did say that he likes Braunwyn and all that she brings, with the bizarro mom, the extra sex apartment, the 7 kids, etc.  I assume he meant in terms of future drama.  Andy also said that Gina had a tough year on the show, so take that for whatever it's worth.

Back to the episode, I think Tamra does whatever Tamra needs to do to remain on camera. 

I think it was actually ok for Emily to bring her daughter to the doctor, as many parents do. What she should have done differently was to accept the surgery advice from the doctor, and assured her daughter that it would actually be a good thing.  Not to cry, have her daughter start crying, and call her horrid husband Shane, knowing he'd make her feel worse.

 I have 2 friends who have had hip replacement this year, and both are thrilled with the results.   These days, they try to get you up & walking almost immediately, so it's not like Emily would be bed-bound.

But Emily made it seem like a death sentence with her daughter, clearly showing that she's looking for support and "parenting" from wherever she can get it.  In fact, this smacks of a future " parentifying the child" relationship.  We saw a glimpse when the child comforted Emily by holding her hand, and then crying with her.  If Emily doesn't get this stuff under control via therapy, her daughter could grow up to act as the parent Emily never had, which can ultimately turn into resentment.

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I'm just going to say it...<small voice> I thought Gina looked lovely this episode.  Her shorter hair and the color looked great on her.  Also can't deny she took the tres amigas with a huge grain of salt and made me laugh about how ridiculous the 3 of them were acting while boozed up.  Tamra in a bush crying?  Gold, Jerry.  Just Gold.

The tres amigas are out of control.  This was an engagement party and the bride to be with her 2 ride or dies got shit faced drunk.  I love a good booze fest with the girls but come on...time and place ladies...time and place.

Duff?  Seriously?  Still a doofus all these years later.

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I actually thought Kelly Dodd looked great this episode.  Her sequined dress, belt & boots were perfect for the occasion, and she carried herself with (albeit awkward) grace.  Sure, she might have Xanax'ed it up a bit, but she sure did act in a kind way, with the nice bottle of Dom, a nice note, and a sweet sentiment.

I'm not sure what the problem was with Dr. Brian.  Seems he isn't/wasn't ready to get married, but they hadn't been dating that terribly long at this point.  He seems like a calm influence on her.  Was he trying to get his surgeon-name out there?  Seems like an awful lot to go through just for that.  I worry about her, marrying a guy 2000 miles away, that she's only known a few months, and only long distance, leaving/FaceTiming her daughter, or making her daughter travel, or however that's going to work.

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1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

I don’t get why Steve is marrying Vikie either.  He looked like he didn’t want to be at that party, or with her.

I laughed when Kelly was "done" and shouted to Brian "lets leave" they showed a shot of the three men at the bar... Eddie, Steve and Brian...who each had the same look of "Is that exit call for me?  I hope so!"

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Oh gosh, little Annabelle reaching out to hold her mom's hand when she was in pain... 🥰

How the fuck did that momentary ray of sunshine manage to slice through this cesspool of a show? 

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11 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

I laughed when Kelly was "done" and shouted to Brian "lets leave" they showed a shot of the three men at the bar... Eddie, Steve and Brian...who each had the same look of "Is that exit call for me?  I hope so!"

I laughed at that too.  I also laughed at the editors Shane shade when they zoomed in on Shane standing tippy toes in the wedding photo at the end re-caps.  

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Since Bronwyn's home was shown for the Yoga session....

Found it pretty easily, and like I thought it is in Newport Coast.  Weird thing is the house sold in 7/2019 and prior sell date was in 2009.  So I suppose "my home" that she "loves" ... were they renting it?  Then did they buy it this past July?  Sale price 4.7M.  Another possibility I rather doubt is they bought it in 2009 and then sold if here in July...unless she's off the show or something.  Anyway my guess is they and their brood were in a rental...and now are they off to somewhere else, or plopped down right there?

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On 12/15/2019 at 8:02 PM, KungFuBunny said:

Bravo is really unhappy with this franchise.

The one good thing about this is we know - NO CHANCE of a 3 Amigos Spin-off.

This is the first time I have ever remembered a HW new episode or any Bravo show being aired during the holidays. It is during this time (the 2 weeks between Christmas/Hanukkah and New Years), most shows from all networks take a break as people are "away" not Teresa away - but away as on vacation. They know this is a time that ratings drop.

As for the finale "farmhouse chic"? Will they feed Vicki's slop in a trough?

As am I.  I lasted all of maybe 10 minutes last night.  I noped out at the chanting yoga session with a loud FFS declaration.  

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Normally I don't like to comment on people's appearances, but I suspect this is partially his own doing, so I feel okay in saying: it is difficult to look directly at Kelly's "boyfriend."  

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