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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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Mirabelle

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6 hours ago, Aymery said:

That wouldn't jive with how Aiden's sexuality has played out over the last few years, right up to Christmas when she clearly accepted him being attracted to another boy.  But I suppose anything's possible since they had a writer change since then? I don't understand why they recast Aiden last week for a single episode where he was not required, but dropped his own story (possible bullying?) that was launched in the previous episode. And it's not been revisited all week. You'd think Liz calling his counselor, despite his protests, would've had repercussions by now.

That said, I think it lacks impact to give a non-entity like Blaze and her mother the parental homophobia story. You know who would've worked really well for that story? Jason and Danny. Heck, you could even make it the reason he's been acting out. Hasn't it coincided with Aiden coming out/dating that kid he mentioned at Christmas? Danny could be frustrated and jealous over that, especially if he feels he is stuck in the closet because he must live up to the image of being a mob enforcer's son. It'd be really good to pit Jason against the more supportive parents, Sam and Dante (both of whom have a bi sister - the same one, as it happens).

And hey, down the line, Aiden and Danny could be another couple with shared relatives, but not actually related themselves.

Me to myself: I'm not sure how I'd feel about my half-brothers dating each other.  Then again, I do not live in Port Charles and my family tree is not a wreath. 

This show really needs new blood beyond Fetch aka Dex. The only young man who wasn't biologically related to half the town is off at Stanford. 

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Aymery

Aymery

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36 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Me to myself: I'm not sure how I'd feel about my half-brothers dating each other.  Then again, I do not live in Port Charles and my family tree is not a wreath. 

This show really needs new blood beyond Fetch aka Dex. The only young man who wasn't biologically related to half the town is off at Stanford. 

While I agree with you in principle, this has never been a problem on the soaps, not least this one. Right now, Dante and Sam have TWO half-siblings in common: Kristina and Leo. (And Sam also had a stillborn child with Dante's dad.) 

And people regularly wind up having kids with immediate relatives. Sam has children with twins Jason and Drew. So does Michael with Nelle and Willow. Alexis had daughters with half-brothers Sonny and Ric. Helena had sons with Mikkos and Victor. Sonny had daughters with both Alexis and her daughter Sam. And while not all those relationship resulted in children, Ava was with both Morgan and his dad Sonny. Carly's been with three brothers AJ, Jason and Drew. Michael also completed the trifecta of Willow, Nelle and Kiki. Kiki herself dated Morgan and Michael. And so on.

So really Danny-Aiden are far from an aberration. The only thing unique is that they'd be a same-sex couple. Jake can't complain much since he himself is dating his brother's cousin. Aiden is technically the child of two cousins since Laura is an adopted Webber. And think about it: Aiden's a Spencer and a Webber (Hardy). Danny's a Quartermaine and a Cassadine. This is the kind of match made in soap heaven between four legacy families. And it would help with the quandary posed by that entire age group being all-male except for Charlotte.

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Lugal

Lugal

On 5/6/2024 at 11:01 PM, Winston Wolfe said:

I'm so proud of being the first one to predict Sonny and Natalia about a month ago. Typically incestuous GH. Their daughters are dating, and Natalia ain't too thrilled about that. Anyone else notice her face when Ava mentioned that Kristina and Blaze are dating?

Re: Sonny and Natalia's storyline. OK, I'm curious if they'll get Moose and Squirrel?

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FilmTVGeek80

12 hours ago, Aymery said:

That said, I think it lacks impact to give a non-entity like Blaze and her mother the parental homophobia story. You know who would've worked really well for that story? Jason and Danny. Heck, you could even make it the reason he's been acting out.

There's no way this show would portray Angel with the Black T-Shirt as homophobic in the slightest, especially since Sonny accepted Kristina's sexuality pretty well. No way they have Sonny handle something better than Jason. 

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Sake614

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Does anyone really care about this wedding? They’ve been talking about it for months now, but outside of Lois, I don't even see excitement from the bride and groom! We haven’t seen Brooklyn planning the wedding. I don’t remember her asking anyone to be her maid of honor or a bridesmaid. 

Blaze is going as Kristina’s plus one, Natalia is going as Sonny’s date (likely to keep an eye on her daughter and ensure Blaze doesn’t do anything untoward like kissing Kristina 🙄). 

Ava isn’t invited because she killed Kate/Connie but Sonny can go even though he killed AJ. Then again, AJ was fat so I guess it’s okay.

 

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Ava isn’t invited because she killed Kate/Connie but Sonny can go even though he killed AJ. Then again, AJ was fat so I guess it’s okay.

Exactly. AJ was fat and NO ONE attending this wedding who is a Quartermaine loved him or cared about him. Monica did when Jason was “killed” the first time by Faison.

And JEEBUS CRIPES ON A CRACKER. I thought Finola was done with the tears after Heinrich was killed off.  She’s acting as if Dex is the most noble, honest, most deserving person who should be a cop! And acting as if Dante may be…compromised?! When she insisted that Dante remain?! The FUCK?!

And trashing the FBI TO JASON, of all people! So speaks the DOUBLE AGENT. What has happened to one of my favorite characters?!

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

36 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Carly did have to admit that she had told Brennan things she shouldn’t have. 

And then made plans to visit Brennan at Pentonville again. Good lord, she's dumb.  I hope he has her kidnapped.

Michael, it's none of your business what's going on between Cody and Sasha. I'm so not surprised he thinks Sasha is somehow slumming it as the Q cook. Ugh, he's so gross in every possible way.

The New Tomorrow Institute always sounds so creepy whenever I hear it. 

NINA DIDN'T SEND DREW TO PRISON, WILLOW.

What was the point of Willow telling Drew she and Michael helped Jason when he was shot? Those two have hilariously inappropriate chemistry that I hope the show acts on (but I doubt it will).

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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I read this:

1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Carly did have to admit that she had told Brennan things she shouldn’t have. 

And was getting to type something snarky, but then read this:

12 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

And then made plans to visit Brennan at Pentonville again. Good lord, she's dumb.  I hope he has her kidnapped.

So, pretty much, Anna was wasting her breath. Cujo's ass needs to be kidnapped, and where Jason isn't her savior, but the cops, when she's malnourished and dehydrated and treated like the numskull she is, instead of getting away with everything and suffering no consequences.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

Carly's smugness is just about the worst thing on the show. Watching her smug satisfied half-smiles as she is being told how wrong she is makes me wanna throttle her. Girl, you're WRONG. Take your lumps, take several seats, have a tall glass of STFU and at least pretend you feel bad about what you did. But no, Carly can do no wrong in Carly's book of Carly. Anna should have slapped the taste out of her mouth.

The Michael / Sasha scenes were gross. Yes, Michael, Sasha should have thought of you before taking the job. And she doesn't need a bail out from you and Cody doesn't need to be warned about anything, you neanderthal. 

Just like Carly, Michael has no storyline. He just hangs around before they decide where he should be shoved next.

Tracy/Gregory still good. I don't know how the writers can write these two so well and give us a shit sandwich for almost everything else.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

On 5/11/2024 at 12:33 PM, Aymery said:

While I agree with you in principle, this has never been a problem on the soaps, not least this one. Right now, Dante and Sam have TWO half-siblings in common: Kristina and Leo. (And Sam also had a stillborn child with Dante's dad.) 

And people regularly wind up having kids with immediate relatives. Sam has children with twins Jason and Drew. So does Michael with Nelle and Willow. Alexis had daughters with half-brothers Sonny and Ric. Helena had sons with Mikkos and Victor. Sonny had daughters with both Alexis and her daughter Sam. And while not all those relationship resulted in children, Ava was with both Morgan and his dad Sonny. Carly's been with three brothers AJ, Jason and Drew. Michael also completed the trifecta of Willow, Nelle and Kiki. Kiki herself dated Morgan and Michael. And so on.

Dante and Sam both also have siblings who are each other's cousins: Molly and Avery, plus his brother Michael is her kids' cousin. 

Don't forget Maxie, who has a son and daughter with half-brothers (Faison's sons), the late Nathan and Peter/Heinrick. 

That may be the one thing Elizabeth has in common with Carly - she's been with the three Q brothers also but she thought (prior)Drew was Jason at the time. 

I think the last women whose children were full blood siblings were Felicia and Robin? So the audience gets their brains fried with figuring out who is related to who, or not related.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

Anna just made things worse. Cujo didn’t give a damn that she compromised whatever investigation there was going on.

Maybe let Pentonville not ALLOW her to visit Brennan? Whose name will she be able to take as out to let her see him?

The only thing I’ve seen with Mulcahey is that people are seeing Mooby for the criminal he is. Nothing else has changed.

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Auntie Velvet

Auntie Velvet

32 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

I'm pretty sure they will.  There are rumours flying that Drew and Willow are going to hook up.  

Sharing a man is really the only thing in the Long Lost Daughter playbook that they haven't already ripped off from Bobbie/Carly and Alexis/Sam. 

Michael is currently being a good boy, so I don't know what the excuse would be that would drive St. Willow into a fling. Maybe he'll dip his breadstick into Sasha's marinara? (Sorry!)

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

3 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Carly's smugness is just about the worst thing on the show. Watching her smug satisfied half-smiles as she is being told how wrong she is makes me wanna throttle her. Girl, you're WRONG.

Anna: "Why don't you try and be as smart as you think you are" - Line of the day, but of course it fell on deaf ears.  Who can't see what's coming: Carly will be in terrible danger and Jason will have to save her.  He'll lecture her, but she'll do boo-boo wounded face and he'll forgive her.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The only thing I’ve seen with Mulcahey is that people are seeing Mooby for the criminal he is. Nothing else has changed.

I think there's more cast interaction, esp. featuring the kids. I'm glad to see more of Elizabeth's children. Although I don't understand why Maxie's children and Aiden are spending time at the Quartermaine mansion. 

Asp Burger

Asp Burger

On 5/13/2024 at 12:42 AM, pinkandsparkly13 said:

I've been sick of Anna's/Finola's teary eyes for years now. She does it in conversations that don't even seem to call for it. What's wrong with her?! Lol I've never liked Anna much since I've been watching the show. 

Finola is the new Jonathan Jackson! I remember the jokes on TWoP when Liz was pregnant with Aiden and the paternity was still a mystery (NIkolas or Lucky). "If he's crying constantly, he's Lucky's."  

Seriously, yes, weepy Anna has been the Anna of record for a long, long time now. My recollection is that it started during the "Justice for Dewk" storyline of 2015-16. 

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

13 hours ago, perkie1968 said:
17 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Those two have hilariously inappropriate chemistry that I hope the show acts on (but I doubt it will).

I'm pretty sure they will.  There are rumours flying that Drew and Willow are going to hook up.  

The only thing I hate about this is that it gives Michael yet another opportunity to get self-righteous. Ugh, he does that enough without provocation.

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Blackie

Blackie

6 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Also is "high speed ferry" an oxy moron?  Aren't ferrys by nature of their being, incredibly slow?  

 

I think there are high speed "ferries" but they are like catamarans or hydrofoil or something like that. There is a high speed ferry between Nova Scotia and Bar Harbor Maine that I wanted to take, it was super fast but super $$$ so I went to New Brunswick instead 😅

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dubbel zout

2 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I seriously hope Drew and Willow hook up because Millow is absolutely minding numbingly dull,

All Drew and Willow do is say how great/brave/inspirational the other one is. That is not a step up. Them hooking up in and of itself would be the most interesting thing either has done in ages.

If the pharmacist is so upset about Sonny's dosage, he should start giving him the right one. We don't know what Valentin has on him (aside from the inaccurate dosage), do we? The fallout for him can't be that terrible.

Jordan's confidence that money is going to pour in hand over fist for that redevelopment project is hilarious.

 

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CeChase

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On Long Island we have two ferries to CT.  One is Port jeff/Bridgeport.  But the one further east, Orient Point/New London, has high speed ferry options.  The casino in CT funds it!  I think it's the Mohegan Sun casino.  I've been on it, and it is much faster than the regular ferry, but it's not high speed exactly.  I mean, it's not a speedboat.   

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

I like how Carly told Brennan who is investigating Pikeman and how Anna decided not to mention to Jagger that the guy allegedly at the head of this thing knows about it and about him. His scenes with Ava were pretty good.

Politician!Drew will be as annoying as Preacher!Drew. You can conquer all with a positive attitude 🤡

Jordan actress sounded like she was reading her lines off the prompter. 

Artsda

Artsda

Shouldn't Drew be at Coney Island?  Sam too but is running wedding errands? 

All the kids are at the Q's instead of at Coney Island? A place for kids?  

Liked Nina going after Ava today. Don't mistake me for someone who cares and the hope it was worth it.  Ava's just pathetic. 

Danny is pathetic with his desperation to get any crumbs Jason gives his way.  Monica can't pick up a phone? She doesn't need Jason for representing her. SBs Jason spit on all things Quartermaine, his family he should not be going to that wedding. 

Drew says he'd delegate to nephew Michael to prevent scandal? Michael Corinthos? Yes that will be less scandalous. 

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