Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[tessaray]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't understand: How does Finn being Chase's father change his relationship with Finn's mother?

As YaddaYadda says, it's just that she moves from no one related to him, to his grandmother. She's dead, so it doesn't really change his life much but if Finn is his father, he can at least share his memories of her. 

He gains a whole new family too. IRL, that could potentially mean (great) aunts, uncles, cousins. 

[dubbel zout]

Oh, we're talking about Chase. I thought he = Finn. My bad.

[statsgirl]

11 hours ago, tessaray said:

  It would be more meaningful if she were alive but still, it matters - because honesty and truth matter. Even if it is inconvenient.

This reminds me of the Mark Twain short story "Was it Heaven? Or Hell?"  (Plot and thematic discussion here.) Should you always tells the truth? Or does there come a point at which telling the truth is more harmful than keeping a secret?

13 hours ago, driver18 said:

It's one of the things I mentioned. If Chase were to have a child, that child would be Finn's grandchild. He's seen the kind of relationship Anna has with Robin and knows it's different than what a father/child, uncle/nephew or niece would have. He could have grandkids from Violet but he'd be a lot older and activities would be a lot different. So, yeah, it does matter.

If Chase is still talking to Finn at that point. (Chase is a nicer guy than I am -- I wouldn't be talking to Finn for quite a few years if he did that to me.)

And that's my issue with this. IF Finn is Chase's biological father, it's going to blow up Chase's relationships with Gregory (because he isn't really his father) and with Jackie (because she lied to him for all these years) and with Finn himself (because Finn suspected it but abandoned his parental role when Chase was an infant). It's going to deeply hurt Gregory who is already hurting with losing his wife, and now he's going to lose his son too. Chase will be left hurt and alone because two of the people he trusted (Jackie and Finn) lied to him and the man he thought was his father isn't.

Finn's mother is dead so Chase will never know her in person. Finn can share all the memories he wants of his mother, now Chase's grandmother, and introduce Chase to her relatives but it will never be as meaningful to Chase as the relationship he now has with the man he believes is his father. A relationship that will certainly be altered if not destroyed when Finn breaks his news.

I would advise Finn to hold off on telling Chase, maybe until Gregory is dead. Finn can still be Uncle Finn to Chase's kids when they come, sometimes an emotionally closer relationship than a grandfather. Finn can tell Chase his medical history if it ever should be needed.

The only one who could benefit from Chase finding out right now is Finn himself which is why I think that it would be incredibly selfish, albeit soapy, to break the news now.,

[dubbel zout]

I hope it turns out that Finn isn't Chase's father, but this show rarely does what I hope.

[driver18]

21 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

This reminds me of the Mark Twain short story "Was it Heaven? Or Hell?"  (Plot and thematic discussion here.) Should you always tells the truth? Or does there come a point at which telling the truth is more harmful than keeping a secret?

If Chase is still talking to Finn at that point. (Chase is a nicer guy than I am -- I wouldn't be talking to Finn for quite a few years if he did that to me.)

And that's my issue with this. IF Finn is Chase's biological father, it's going to blow up Chase's relationships with Gregory (because he isn't really his father) and with Jackie (because she lied to him for all these years) and with Finn himself (because Finn suspected it but abandoned his parental role when Chase was an infant). It's going to deeply hurt Gregory who is already hurting with losing his wife, and now he's going to lose his son too. Chase will be left hurt and alone because two of the people he trusted (Jackie and Finn) lied to him and the man he thought was his father isn't.

Finn's mother is dead so Chase will never know her in person. Finn can share all the memories he wants of his mother, now Chase's grandmother, and introduce Chase to her relatives but it will never be as meaningful to Chase as the relationship he now has with the man he believes is his father. A relationship that will certainly be altered if not destroyed when Finn breaks his news.

I would advise Finn to hold off on telling Chase, maybe until Gregory is dead. Finn can still be Uncle Finn to Chase's kids when they come, sometimes an emotionally closer relationship than a grandfather. Finn can tell Chase his medical history if it ever should be needed.

The only one who could benefit from Chase finding out right now is Finn himself which is why I think that it would be incredibly selfish, albeit soapy, to break the news now.,

On the flip side, once the dust clears, Chase now has two fathers in a way, a new sister (and he's never had a sister), memories/stories of a grandmonther he never had. Anna becomes his stepmother, Robin (and her family) become his family. Maxie becomes more officially like family to him. And, it's a truth that Chase deserves to know.

Again, Finn was a young, grieving, confused, broken-hearted young man who was potentially (almost definitely) lied to by a woman who cheated on her fiance the day before her wedding--who happened to be his father. Finn had reasons to want to believe that the child she was carrying wasn't his. It's not like he just chucked his potential responsibility because, yeah, whatevs babe!

[Sake614]

42 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I hope it turns out that Finn isn't Chase's father, but this show rarely does what I hope.

I hope the DNA Finn got from the gym is really Gregory’s and that’s the father/son connection. Of course by the time they figure it out, Finn will have already blown up everyone’s lives just to satisfy his curiosity...

[Ambrosefolly]

46 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I hope it turns out that Finn isn't Chase's father, but this show rarely does what I hope.

I don't see any long term, interesting benefits with Finn being Chase's dad, unlike Avery possibly being Morgan's daughter, even though Morgan is dead. Finding out would be the storyline and I know they will drop it one way or another soon after it is discovered or it would be extremely awkward. So just give the audience what they want and have there be a comically scene where Finn is NOT the Father. 

[tessaray]

I agree that changing Chase's parentage will blow up a lot of lives and if he were a child that would be a real factor in whether or not to tell him but he's a grown man now.  They don't have a right to withhold facts once they know them.  If they know them. I do feel that Finn is being somewhat selfish for doing it right now. 

[Gam2]

I got my first glimpse of Sam today. I actually laughed when I saw her cone head. Then I saw the boobs. Does that woman even have a mirror?! What is wrong with her?!

[YaddaYadda]

1 minute ago, Gam2 said:

I got my first glimpse of Sam today. I actually laughed when I saw her cone head. Then I saw the boobs. Does that woman even have a mirror?! What is wrong with her?!

Her or the people in wardrobe and makeup?

[Gam2]

All of the above.

[driver18]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I hope the DNA Finn got from the gym is really Gregory’s and that’s the father/son connection. Of course by the time they figure it out, Finn will have already blown up everyone’s lives just to satisfy his curiosity...

It's not about "satisfying his curiosity!" This could potentially be his CHILD! His son. Chase's children could be his grandchildren. Chase could be Violet's brother. Chase could be Finn's mother's granchild. These are HUGE things. This is not some random thing. Finn being a father now has changed his worldview. This is not some random whim. I don't really understand why so many are acting like this is some 'no big, casual' thing. This is clearly some dormant, subconscious thing that lay buried for a long time until Jackie came back and brought all of this stuff to the surface. AFTER HE BECAME A FATHER. This is HUGE. Actually becoming a parent and knowing what that means is freaking huge. It's not some la-dee-dah thing.

1 hour ago, Ambrosefolly said:

I don't see any long term, interesting benefits with Finn being Chase's dad, unlike Avery possibly being Morgan's daughter, even though Morgan is dead. Finding out would be the storyline and I know they will drop it one way or another soon after it is discovered or it would be extremely awkward. So just give the audience what they want and have there be a comically scene where Finn is NOT the Father. 

It gives Chase more of a story in the long-term because he will have more people to interact with. Anna and Maxie will be more like actual family. It also gives him a harder, darker edge because it upends his world view in a way that nothing ever has. It fundamentally should change who he is. And will likely effect the Chase/Willow/Michael/Sasha and potentially Chase/Brooklyn/Valentine story as well. This is CHARACTER-driven!

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

I agree that changing Chase's parentage will blow up a lot of lives and if he were a child that would be a real factor in whether or not to tell him but he's a grown man now.  They don't have a right to withhold facts once they know them.  If they know them. I do feel that Finn is being somewhat selfish for doing it right now. 

Wanting to know if his child was kept from him for THIRTY YEARS is him being selfish?! Really. This after ANOTHER child was kept from him for five years? Finn is being selfish? This would be the second time that he's lost out on so much of being a father in the early years. JACKIE was and is being selfish. Finn *deserves* to know the truth. Chase *deserves* to know the truth. Gregory *deserves* to know the truth.

Edited March 1, 2021 by driver18

[Ambrosefolly]

Just now, driver18 said:

It gives Chase more of a story in the long-term because he will have more people to interact with. Anna and Maxie will be more like actual family. It also gives him a harder, darker edge because it upends his world view in a way that nothing ever has. It fundamentally should change who he is. And will likely effect the Chase/Willow/Michael/Sasha and potentially Chase/Brooklyn/Valentine story as well. This is CHARACTER-driven!

Chase is already Finn's brother, and can't they, you know, build those relationships. Brenda Barrett wasn't related to a single person on the canvas, and that never changed during her years on GH, yet she was deeply link to a lot of the canvas were people like Ned and Robin considered her family. They can make him darker by giving him a complex storyline instead of messing with his parentage. 

[Hater]

40 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I got my first glimpse of Sam today. I actually laughed when I saw her cone head. Then I saw the boobs. Does that woman even have a mirror?! What is wrong with her?!

Sad part is it's the best she's looked in months after she came back looking like catwoman in August.

[dubbel zout]

Props to ME and FH for allowing RL pictures of them as kids to be shown.

6 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Finn is being selfish?

Yes, he's being selfish. He's not thinking about how this will affect everyone else. It's not as if Gregory and Chase will cheer that the truth is finally out. And why does it have to be the day of his wedding? Nothing will change if he does it later, so do it when it can be a less overall emotional time.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

JACKIE was and is being selfish. Finn *deserves* to know the truth.

Finn knew though there was a possibility though imo. I don't blame him for not saying anything then either but he doesn't necessarily deserve it because he kept away. Like I said I don't blame him, but it makes the situation less clear cut. Which I think is a positive thing, it is decent writing.

Edited March 1, 2021 by ulkis

[driver18]

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Props to ME and FH for allowing RL pictures of them as kids to be shown.

Yes, he's being selfish. He's not thinking about how this will affect everyone else. It's not as if Gregory and Chase will cheer that the truth is finally out. And why does it have to be the day of his wedding? Nothing will change if he does it later, so do it when it can be a less overall emotional time.

He didn't know the test results were going to come the day of his wedding. He got them and was anxious to get them. The last I saw (I didn't see today yet, I'm at work), he told Jackie he would wait to see them.

He also is definitely thinking about how this will affect everyone else. He's stated that NUMEROUS times. To Anna, to Jackie. It's been clear in Easton's performance. He just also desperately wants to know if Chase is his son because of all I've listed above.

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Finn knew though there was a possibility though imo. I don't blame him for not saying anything then either but he doesn't necessarily deserve it because he kept away. Like I said I don't blame him, but it makes the situation less clear cut. Which I think is a positive thing, it is decently writing.

Yes, he knew there was a possibility, when he was a young man, grieving for his mother, heartbroken, feeling loads of guilt over his dad, and really, really ready and happy to accept it when Jackie said the kid wasn't his. And he wasn't a father then. The situation has changed.

Edited March 1, 2021 by driver18

[dubbel zout]

"My cop instincts are almost never wrong." Oh, Jordan. Keep telling yourself that while the PCPD never solves a case even if it's handed to it on a silver planet. Also, butt out of conversations that don't involve you.

[ffwbe]

48 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

I got my first glimpse of Sam today. I actually laughed when I saw her cone head. Then I saw the boobs. Does that woman even have a mirror?! What is wrong with her?!

I’ll hold the UO that I didn’t mind her dress. I don’t think the cutout is bad when a lot of women on this show wear low cut dresses. It’s not really a wedding style dress though. It’s more a bar/club type dress. However, I don’t like the hair. That poof/bumpit look is very dated and it looks even bigger and pointier than Friday’s episode. 

[Thatoneshow]

I don't want Chase to be Finns because it only offers a temporary story. Being Finns son won't open anymore onscreen relationships than being his brother does. He is too old for Anna to play mother and he has a living mother still around. Robin and any of Finns maternal relatives are all off screen so they are irrelevant. At his age being Violets brother is no different from being her Uncle. Best case scenario if Finn is the father, after Chase gets over his anger, they agree not to change the relationship status as Gregory has been his dad for 30+yrs.

[driver18]

1 minute ago, Thatoneshow said:

I don't want Chase to be Finns because it only offers a temporary story. Being Finns son won't open anymore onscreen relationships than being his brother does. He is too old for Anna to play mother and he has a living mother still around. Robin and any of Finns maternal relatives are all off screen so they are irrelevant. At his age being Violets brother is no different from being her Uncle. Best case scenario if Finn is the father, after Chase gets over his anger, they agree not to change the relationship status as Gregory has been his dad for 30+yrs.

All stories are "temporary" stories. The temporary stories then build and lead into other stories. That's how soaps work.

[30 Helens]

Sam’s dress is very distracting. I couldn’t figure out what it was reminding me of, but it just came to me. 
 

 

Poppin’ fresh, indeed.

 

[Katy M]

3 minutes ago, driver18 said:

All stories are "temporary" stories. The temporary stories then build and lead into other stories. That's how soaps work.

Yeah, but I think the point is, this changes nothing.  Brother, son, what difference does it make?  So, it doesn't have anything to build or lead into.

[dubbel zout]

I feel like the cuff links Valentin gave Peter have poison or a bomb in them, heh.

I like Anna's dress, but I wish the shoulders weren't quite so aggressive. Maxie's dress is absolutely hideous. Just dreadfully unflattering.

[ulkis]

35 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Yeah, but I think the point is, this changes nothing.  Brother, son, what difference does it make?  So, it doesn't have anything to build or lead into.

That's usually the case with most stuff on the show. 

[ulkis]

58 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Yes, he knew there was a possibility, when he was a young man, grieving for his mother, heartbroken, feeling loads of guilt over his dad, and really, really ready and happy to accept it when Jackie said the kid wasn't his. And he wasn't a father then. The situation has changed.

Oh I don't disagree with that I just mean that doesn't necessarily means he deserves to know. I don't think that means it he doesn't shouldn't get to know either. Like I said that is decent writing. They could have done the easy thing and made Greg a shitty father, then it would have been a lot simpler.

[dubbel zout]

9 minutes ago, ulkis said:

They could have done the easy thing and made Greg a shitty father, then it would have been a lot simpler.

I'm surprised they didn't, TBH.

[YaddaYadda]

Anna's wedding dress had shoulder pads? And Maxie's dress looked like a curtain. Anna's dress reminded me of something out of Dynasty.

I worked in high end fashion throughout my years at university and I'm just not down with whoever works in wardrobe. It's like there's zero effort being made in finding something decent on a budget, which can be done. Aren't they familiar with the actresses they're dressing, or something? I find it so aggravating that Sam's default color is black. The girl is always dressed in black. Or that a wedding dress has to look like something I would use to cover my couch to paint my living room. 

It seems like Maxie wants to marry Peter not because she really wants to marry him but because she wants to shut up the naysayers. 

Can Dante complete the mission already. The voices in his head that keeps telling him to complete the mission is getting beyond annoying.

Sam is away from Jason and suddenly she's interacting with more people. Fucking Jason!

What have they done to BH's hair? It looks like some kind of a weird perm. Stop it, makeup and hair! Just stop it!

Edited March 1, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[mostlylurking]

I’m very late to the party but I just saw the Cam hair cutting episode and I actually loved it.  I thought Joss and Trina were over the top dramatic, but that’s very true to how teenagers usually react.  I laughed as Joss telling Liz and Franco that although the intent was good, the result might be “unsettling”.  Heh.  I was also fine with him not shaving his head entirely.  Again, he’s in high school.  He already has enough on his plate with always trying to be the “man of the house”.  I don’t think he has to go full on bald to show support.  I really like the Friz family unit.  I don’t even equate James Franco’s Franco to Roger’s Franco at all anymore.  It sucks that they turned Lucky into a dead beat dad but he was already absentee long before Franco entered the picture.

Moving on, although I think Finn has every right to know if Chase is his son, I agree with other posters that he should not reveal the DNA results to Chase.  That ship has sailed.  He had decades to run these DNA tests and chose not to.  He doesn’t have the right to blow up Chase’s life now just because he feels “ready”.

Unpopular opinion - I thought Sam looked pretty fantastic at the wedding.  Unfortunately, it was a bit too much for a wedding, more like club wear.  Britt looked fab as well and it was more appropriate. God help me but I think I would like a Britt/Jason pairing.  It gets him out of his little bubble a bit, and he actually comes to life a little with her.  I also think Britt would call him out on his crap.  Her scenes with Mutter have also been gold.  Poor Maxie can’t even get a decent wardrobe on her wedding day.  Just hideous.

 

[ffwbe]

It’s weird. I think the wedding guests all look great for the most part. It’s only the brides whose dresses I hate and it doesn’t seem like they are doing anything special with their hair and make-up either. Granted this double wedding is doomed but they didn’t even try with them. 
 

ETA The guest list. I know it’s already been mentioned but the 2 female characters are the vets in these pairings but no Felicia, Robin and family, Maxie’s kids are both MIA but we have Violet (along with Finn’s entire family) present. I get that the wedding is all about Peter but damn.

Edited March 1, 2021 by ffwbe

[dubbel zout]

9 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

He had decades to run these DNA tests and chose not to. 

He didn't, really, because he stayed away from his family for 30 years, or whatever it is.

[Sake614]

47 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Wanting to know if his child was kept from him for THIRTY YEARS is him being selfish?!

Well yes because he’s only now decided he wants to know. He’s known for 30 years that he COULD be Chase’s father but preferred to bury his head in the sand and be hostile toward everyone. 

[mostlylurking]

10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He didn't, really, because he stayed away from his family for 30 years, or whatever it is.

I get that but again, that was his choice.  Chase has idolized both his dad and brother his entire life.  I don’t think it’s fair to him at this point to change that.  I have to say I also like the fact that the show didn’t take the easy route and make Gregory a bad father.  It makes the decision, and the story, much more interesting.

[driver18]

3 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Well yes because he’s only now decided he wants to know. He’s known for 30 years that he COULD be Chase’s father but preferred to bury his head in the sand and be hostile toward everyone. 

I'm sorry, but you're ignoring the circumstances. Out of sight, out of mind. He buried his head in the sand because of extreme guilt. He buried his head in the sand because he had no idea what the joys of fatherhood were like. He buried his head in the sand because he didn't know Chase. He buried his head in the sand because he hadn't had another woman deny him one child.

He is pulling his head out of the sand now BECAUSE he's a father to Violet. He's pulling head out of the sand now BECAUSE he knows Chase. He's pulling his head out of the sand now BECAUSE Jackie has come back into his life and has stirred up the that long-buried "what if?"

And he wasn't hostile to everyone. He kept Chase at arm's length, and he kept his father's at arm length. Jackie deserves how he's treated her.

4 hours ago, Katy M said:

Yeah, but I think the point is, this changes nothing.  Brother, son, what difference does it make?  So, it doesn't have anything to build or lead into.

It DOES change things. It changes Chase's worldview. It makes Violet his brother which changes their relationship. It also means that when/if Chase has a child -- which could be sooner rather than later -- Finn becomes a grandfather. It also wildly changes the dynamic of his relationship with Finn. Brother vs son is a HUGE difference. Chase WILL see Finn differently. It changes A LOT.

And it's not just their relationship. Chase will be reeling. He was lied to his entire life. Who will he turn to for support? Who will support him? Willow? Will she be there for him, thus leaving Michael to turn to Sasha? She was there big-time for him when there was an issue with his family recently. Or will it be a returning Brooklyn? Hey... what about Maxie? Maxie's world is also going to be falling apart pretty soon... just like Chase's. Everything is a lie for her too. Finn lied to Chase. Anna lied to Maxie. Chase and Maxie might turn to each other.

This creates a lot of CHARACTER-driven storyline.

Then there's Finn. As I mentioned above, will he stay with Anna despite her keeping huge secrets from him? Or will he turn to Alexis, or will he and Jackie find comfort in each other amidst the turmoil? Finn and Elizabeth have had more scenes together lately. If something does happen to Franco, will Finn and Elizabeth turn to each other? Again, who knows? The possibility is there.

Edited March 2, 2021 by driver18

[ciarra]

So was the DNA test switched yet?🙄

[lala2]

4 hours ago, driver18 said:

Again, Finn was a young, grieving, confused, broken-hearted young man who was potentially (almost definitely) lied to by a woman who cheated on her fiance the day before her wedding--who happened to be his father. Finn had reasons to want to believe that the child she was carrying wasn't his. It's not like he just chucked his potential responsibility because, yeah, whatevs babe!

This is where I am too. I agree w/all your posts on this subject.

Finn just wants to know if Chase is his son. I don't think he's even said he would tell Chase the truth. He justs wants to know for his own peace of mind. Why is that wrong? According to the timeline, Finn met Jackie first and introduced her to his dad. It's not clear to me if she ever told Finn she had started dating his father. What we do know is Jackie had feelings for Finn and knew he liked her too, but turned around and started dating his dad . . . . . . and then in a short amt of time got married to the man?!?! 

The whole situation was messy b/c of Jackie. She was looking for Finn on her wedding day. If he had shown up, she would have ditched his dad? What kind of nonsense is that? I completely understand why Finn left and why he chose to accept Jackie's word that Chase was his dad's child. I get it. But now that he is a dad, Finn just wants the truth. He wants to know if Chase is his son b/c he's always suspected Chase was his son. I think he has a right to know.

I also agree that this isn't some small secret. It's pretty massive and would definitely impact how Chase sees his mom and Finn. IMO, it would ruin - at least for a while - Chase's relationships w/his mom and his brotherdad. He would look at Finn's initial rejection of him in a completely new (and worse) light. Gregory's feelings toward Jackie and Finn would change as well. It could be very messy (and soapy).

[Pingaponga]

Looking at the is-Chase-isn't-Chase Finn's son from a different angle, I am into genealogy and belong to several genealogy groups on Fb, including one related to Ancestry DNA. And everyone once in a while a post pops up from someone who did a DNA test and discovered that their father's entire ethnic background is missing from their DNA and there are a ton of DNA matches with names that have no meaning to them, and they are clearly confused and upset and wonder if the test could be wrong. They get referred to another group for people who have learned through these tests that the man they grew up thinking was their father was not their father, where they can find guidance and support.

In this day and age, these secrets can come out. They do come out. Is that good? Is that bad? I have no idea. But I'm finding it kind of interesting seeing this play out on my TV screen, albeit from the parents' perspective. We already know Jackie believes that, despite her protests, there's a pretty damn good chance Finn could be Chase's father. (If there were no chance, she'd be telling him to go ahead with the test, knowing it would show he is not Chase's dad.)

If Finn is Chase's father and tells him, Chase will be crushed and angry. If Finn is Chase's father and doesn't tell him, but Chase finds out somehow at a later date? Chase will be crushed and even angrier as he'd feel betrayed by Finn who kept the secret.

Genealogy is fascinating, secrets eventually come out, and people need to be more honest. (Unfortunately, I have yet to find any secrets like this in my family tree. Although I do keep hoping...)

Have we been given a reason as to why Robin and her family aren't attending the wedding?

 

[PatsyandEddie]

Didn’t Finn already say to Anna that he has no plan to tell Chase if Finn is his father, not Gregory?

[dubbel zout]

11 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Didn’t Finn already say to Anna that he has no plan to tell Chase if Finn is his father, not Gregory?

I honestly can't remember. It doesn't really matter, though, because of course Chase will find out somehow if Finn is his father. If Finn doesn't tell him, Chase can find the DNA results, overhear Finn talking to someone, etc. Just because Finn doesn't say something doesn't mean the secret is safe.

And it's a soap, so if Finn is Chase's father, it will come out eventually.

[Daisy]

14 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Didn’t Finn already say to Anna that he has no plan to tell Chase if Finn is his father, not Gregory?

From what Iremember they were saying that they didn't have to tell him but then Finn was like... but could he really keep that secret?

 

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

It makes Violet his brother which changes their relationship

How would that really make theri relatiosnhip any different.  I don't think my relationship with my niece would change in the slightest if I found out she were my sister.  It's not like we would be suddenly living together or spending more time together just because we're related in a different way.  Age difference is still the same.

[Thatoneshow]

2 hours ago, driver18 said:

All stories are "temporary" stories. The temporary stories then build and lead into other stories. That's how soaps work.

Of course. I just don't think this can lead to anything meaningful long term. If they were changing his parentage to Mac or Robert or even AJ, maybe that would be something they could build on. But Finn has a flimsy connection to the rest of the town as is. His daughter barely interacts with her cousins and there is no adult in Finns life that Chase couldn't interact with now just with them being brothers.

[Thatoneshow]

2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Sam is away from Jason and suddenly she's interacting with more people. Fucking Jason!

I feel the writers often write them as being bad for each other and they should be apart, Sam interacting with others and Jason looks as engaged as a robot can be in scenes with Brita.  The actors also act like they don't want to be around each other but someone higher up is a fan from back in the day and won't let Jasam die a peaceful death.

[ffwbe]

26 minutes ago, Thatoneshow said:

Of course. I just don't think this can lead to anything meaningful long term. If they were changing his parentage to Mac or Robert or even AJ, maybe that would be something they could build on. But Finn has a flimsy connection to the rest of the town as is. His daughter barely interacts with her cousins and there is no adult in Finns life that Chase couldn't interact with now just with them being brothers.

IA. This storyline will probably only give them a big-ish moment for the reveal but Chase already has a connection to Finn and the people in his life. He’s not gaining any (onscreen) ties that he didn’t already have. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

I swear, this show!

Caveat: I really don’t give a shit and really want things to implode so Maxie does feel the fool because I am that petty.

But. The way Heinrik was monologue-ing to himself, he sounded more like a villain whose evuhl plan was nearly reaching its fruition, instead of someone just happy that he was as finally marrying the woman he loves.

But enough of Robert for me, though.

I appreciate that Finola and Michael used their own pictures from bebes to teens, but that’s something I’ve seen in first weddings and this is like Anna’s fourth and Finn’s second? But hey, first or fourth, whatever works for them, I guess.

But yeah, Maxie’s dress was hideous.

Way to go, Jackie! Like telling Gonzo she wanted a divorce couldn’t wait until after this wedding? Way to ruin Gonzo’s mood!

I don’t understand how Chase, a cynical detective about Nelle and what she did to him, can be so naive when it comes to his parents’ marriage. No marriage is “perfect”. Only kids and teens think that way. At least to me. Yeah, yeah, it’s all anvil! Plot! for when it comes out about his mommy and Finn.

 

[statsgirl]

I hope that's Jason kidnapping Peter because I expect something more clever from super spies Anna and Valentin.

Maybe the cuff links Valentin gave Peter have a tracking device hidden inside.

I really liked Anna's dress except for the football player shoulder pads. I was disappointed that Peter's shirt had buttons rather than studs. The less said about Maxie's dress the better.

2 hours ago, lala2 said:

Finn just wants to know if Chase is his son. I don't think he's even said he would tell Chase the truth.

Jackie pleaded with him not to say anything and he agreed to think about it.

Chase is already reeling from losing Willow, then his parents getting a divorce, and then hoping to get Willow back but we know that she's going to end up with Michael. The poor guy needs a break from relationship drama.

But what I want to know is Does Finn ever wear a condom? He doesn't need to with Anna but did he before? Two children he didn't know about is a lot.

[nilyank]

So my favorite part of today's show was when Jordan confronted Valentin and Anna about what they were doing together, Valentin says that he loves Anna and is trying to convince her to run away with him. Sure, he was pretending, but come one, we know that somewhere inside him Valentin really means that.

The wedding dresses were horrible. Forget the style and the way they were fitted. I think both dresses were too starkly white. Especially since this isn't their first wedding for either bride, they could have gone for dresses of a different shade of white or even light shade of rose, blue, lavendar or soft pastel color.

It's probably Valentin's goons, but I would rather have it been Franco who finally realizes what Peter has been trying to do to him since those Drew memories were implanted in hia head. However, Franco is a dummy and doesn't realize it even as he clearly says it to Jason about what he had told Peter.

Edited March 2, 2021 by nilyank

[TVbitch]

Let's not forget that when Jackie and Finn were at the hospital and she was loudly trying to talk him out of GOING TO THE LAB AND PICKING UP THE RESULTS, Cyrus was standing right behind them. And Cyrus is out to get Jackie. So I think Cyrus either spills the beans, blackmails her with it, or fucks with the results.  

I think this coming out would almost be harder on Gregory than on Finn. I can't imagine the upset of finding out your child is actually your son's child, cuz your son tapped your wife the night before the wedding!

Is projecting big photos of yourself growing up a thing at weddings? I have never seen that! 

[Cheyanne11]

8 minutes ago, nilyank said:

The wedding dresses were horrible. Forget the style and the way they were fitted. I think both dresses were too starkly while.

Maxie's looked like something one would wear if they belonged to a new-age cult. 

 

[ffwbe]

25 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Is projecting big photos of yourself growing up a thing at weddings? I have never seen that! 

I’ve never seen that at a wedding ceremony before but I’ve seen those slideshows at wedding receptions before. It’s usually been younger couples in my personal experience since it’ll segue into pics of them together when they started dating.