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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

and i'm sorry. 
She's so concerned that Dante didn't know that after she got the proof and everything she didn't take Dante aside and go "look I found this out, I wanted to make sure, I'm sure, here's the info, Go with God."

No. She made it drama. this wasn't all about Dante. sorry. 

She didn't get a chance. Cody got to talk to Lulu for a minute or two (right after the confrontation with Lois), Dante interrupted, and as they were talking to him Lucy came along and grabbed the guys to usher them off to change into their suits for their performance. Immediately after the guys got off stage and changed, the audience was told to get in their seats and Gio, Chase and Anna returned to the stage. Dante was not about to miss seeing his best friend performing unless there was a family emergency, and Brook Lynn refused to talk to her mother unless it was about "Granny" because Chase and Gio were performing. 

The time between Lulu confronting Lois and Gio's on-stage meltdown was short. 

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3 hours ago, Sheggy50G said:

She gave Lois time to tell Gio and Dante herself. Unfortunately, Gio overheard. That is not Lulu's fault.

Who is Lulu to "give someone time" to reveal personal information about their own family? Supposedly she felt that Dante "had to know" about the child (who is no longer a child) but she went the extra mile to figure out the identity of that child. If Dante and Gio were still on good terms, it would be traumatic enough, but they aren't - Dante has gone over the top to blame Gio for not getting Rocco help quickly enough, so there's a lot of negative feeling between them. Naturally, that would be the time to back off until everyone cools down, but instead, Lulu gives Lois an ultimatum about telling Dante about something that has absolutely NO urgency involved. Why not say something like, "I am having a really hard time keeping this secret, and I'm afraid I'm going to let it slip, so you (Lois) need to finally come clean in a way that works for everyone involved."? Instead, she takes the aggressive tone and threatens Lois. 

As for Gio, this is life changing, and would be under any circumstances. This was NOT the best way. There are lots of people who find out that their family is not what they thought it was. (Personal note - that's one reason I've never wanted to participate in one of those DNA programs, because I don't want to hear anything I don't want to know). 

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FilmTVGeek80

FilmTVGeek80

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

Where are we getting that Lulu is doing this to get BLQ? If she did, she would have just blown up her world already. Or actually been doing what Brooklyn and Chase have been accusing her of doing, holding the baby knowledge over BLQ's head. Lulu would have been confronting her. She would have stuck around at Deception, making snide comments that no one but BLQ and Lulu knew. She would have actually been tormenting her.

Instead, Lulu was JUST concerned with the fact that BLQ had been lying to Dante, the man Lulu loved, for 20 years. She was concerned about the fact that, like her, Dante had a child out there he didn't know about.

Any concern about BLQ was based on the fact that she was a lying liar who lies! It was based on the fact that Brooklyn tried to destroy her relationship with Dante, drugged him and nearly raped him. Poopoohed the fact that Lulu was in a coma for 4 years and missed so much of her life with a "move on, we have, pfft!" and nary and apology. 

As for BLQ not doing much actual wrong? What?! She has lied to Dante for 20 years! To his face. Keeping the knowledge of a child from him despite knowing the kind of man he is. Called herself his friend despite lying to him for 20 years. Despite him forgiving her for drugging him and attempting to rape him.

If Lulu truly were basing her actions on wanting to get BLQ, she is more than justified, but could be doing so much more. But she's not. This is based on her concern for Dante, and how this will effect him, and Rocco. Her family.

You keep calling Brooklyn a lying liar who lies as if BLQ is the biggest liar on this show. Lulu is a liar, too. If she was truly JUST concerned with the man she loved having a child out there she would have told him the truth immediately instead she LIED to him for months. While it might not compare to the decades BLQ lied, it still makes her a lying liar who lies (not to mention the lies she’s told in the past.)

As for BLQ and Lulu’s history, I’ve been as put out with Lulu’s attitude as Brooklyn. Yes, what Brooklyn did back then to break Lulu and Dante up was gross and wrong, but BLQ knows that and has admitted that. While what she did was wrong, it happened years ago. And not just the years that Lulu was in a coma, but years and years before that. The way Lulu immediately gave her the stink face and attitude as if it was so galling that BLQ walked into her FAMILY’s home was so over-the-top. You would think these two had been these vicious bitter rivals for decades. They were never friends, but for the most part they seemed to have put what happened in the past. I have no problem with Brooklyn feeling like it was nonsensical to dredge up stuff from ages ago just because Lulu decided to act like it just happened. If Lulu doesn’t have an equal hate on for the actual mastermind of said plot - you know her best cousin Carly - I’m not sure why she’s still hanging on to that hate for BLQ. Oh, wait we do know the real motivation of her anger. It’s not because she has some huge moral outrage over what BLQ did back then. She admitted to Dante that a lot of her issues with BLQ were she was mad/jealous that Brooklyn “took her place” while she was in her coma. Took her place with Maxie - as if Maxie weren’t allowed to to make new friends with Lulu was in her “who the hell knows how long it will end” coma. Took her place with Dante - the man Brooklyn knew long before Lulu set eyes on him. Took her place with Tracy - Brooklyn’s GRANDMOTHER. While Lulu did admit that jealousy was irrational, it’s still where most of her animosity was coming from post-coma. I might have more sympathy for Lulu in this rivalry with BLQ if I thought it was about the drugging of Dante back then, but that’s not it. 

As for Brooklyn lying to Dante, yes, it’s not great but it’s not an unforgivable sin. It doesn’t mean she and Dante aren’t friends. The situation is not that black and white. I do actually believe a father should have a bigger say in the decision when adoption is involved,  but BLQ was a scared teenager back then. By the time she and Dante were truly back in each other’s lives it became a conversation was much too difficult to face and also to BLQ felt pointless since it was a closed adoption - as far as she knew - and she didn’t want to disrupt her child’s life.

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Auntie Velvet

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1 hour ago, Daisy said:

and i'm sorry. 
She's so concerned that Dante didn't know that after she got the proof and everything she didn't take Dante aside and go "look I found this out, I wanted to make sure, I'm sure, here's the info, Go with God."

No. She made it drama. this wasn't all about Dante. sorry. 

Talking to Lois WAS her way of getting final proof. She just didn't have a chance to talk to Dante because there everything happened very fast after that.

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Auntie Velvet

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The Michael moment was very dramatic, but when you unpack it, it's kind of a shitty thing to do to Wylie. As thrilled as he is to see his father, taking him away from his mother is going to confuse him. 

1 minute ago, absnow54 said:

My favorite part of today’s episode was Jane Elliot forgetting her line and Steve Burton saying it for her. “Ketamine?” “Yeah, that.”

That was cute, but Jane has been having a few moments like that lately 😟

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

As for BLQ not doing much actual wrong? What?! She has lied to Dante for 20 years! To his face. Keeping the knowledge of a child from him despite knowing the kind of man he is. Called herself his friend despite lying to him for 20 years. Despite him forgiving her for drugging him and attempting to rape him.

 

1 hour ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

So it should have been a teenaged girl's job to tell the guy she had unprotected sex with that she was going to have his baby, and what did he want to do about it? I just want a clear picture of the solution here. Would Dante have been expected to marry BL and they'd raise the baby together, being "the kind of man he is"? 

I get the impression that driver is taking issue not with teenage Brook Lynn's actions, but rather adult Brook Lynn's choices. Brook Lynn (as played by AS, two months ago) told Chase that when her younger self tried to break up Dante and Lulu, she considered telling Dante they had a baby together and she gave the baby up for adoption if he chose her by cheating on Lulu.  She (then played by AL) withheld that information when she realized he was in love with Lulu. So, she kept silent and moved on with her life. Years later, her dad married Dante's mom, so they became stepsiblings. As of November 2024, they were living in the same house. They've had a few significant conversations during that time and Dante even complimented her on being a really good friend. Yet all along, she's been lying to his face.

IMO Dante deserves to feel betrayed. 

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JMO

JMO

5 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

The Michael moment was very dramatic, but when you unpack it, it's kind of a shitty thing to do to Wylie. As thrilled as he is to see his father, taking him away from his mother is going to confuse him. 

 

For all of the adults claiming to want the kids, none of them are doing anything with the kids' best interests in mind.  They're more worried about "ownership" than anything else.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

Did Becky break her leg in real life? And where in the hell is Lucky? Why is JJ even back?

I'm glad Scout is still alive.

Not gonna lie. I really loved that ending and watching Willow and Drew's faces crack like that, especially after that "compromise" and Willow apparently being okay going to DC was the cherry on the sundae.

Never thought I'd be rooting for the baby hoarders, but here we are.

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Cheyanne11

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15 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Brook Lynn (as played by AS, two months ago) told Chase that when her younger self tried to break up Dante and Lulu, she considered telling Dante they had a baby together and she gave the baby up for adoption if he chose her by cheating on Lulu.  She (then played by AL) withheld that information when she realized he was in love with Lulu. So, she kept silent and moved on with her life.

To play devil's advocate, had Dante chosen BL and they were in a relationship she acknowledged yes, she would have told him.  But when he chose Lulu, did she have a right to tell him?  Would Lulu have seen it as her trying to use some leverage to sway Dante?  No easy answers.

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madhacker

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My only question about the Gio aftermath:

It seemed to me that just about everybody was more concerned about Dante and Lois rather than the poor kid who just minutes ago had a mental freak-out and stormed off. You'd think at least the grandparents would be thinking,"we need to find Gio right now!" In his state of mind, he might do something like harm himself or try to leave town. But no, the damn Ball takes priority.

(Yes, I saw the previews and I know Gio's fine)

Or am I alone in this thinking?

Next week, we'd better see Lulu get a Spencer smackdown by Laura. I remember the days of her giving Lucky a few good ones. We're way overdue for one and Lulu deserves it...

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JMO

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2 minutes ago, madhacker said:

My only question about the Gio aftermath:

It seemed to me that just about everybody was more concerned about Dante and Lois rather than the poor kid who just minutes ago had a mental freak-out and stormed off. You'd think at least the grandparents would be thinking,"we need to find Gio right now!" In his state of mind, he might do something like harm himself or try to leave town. But no, the damn Ball takes priority.

(Yes, I saw the previews and I know Gio's fine)

Or am I alone in this thinking?

I think they all had to process for a long moment, but I remember thinking that, for as long as Gio has been in PC, there didn't seem to be anyone putting him first.  Still, Emma went after him for sure, and I had the sense that Lois did as well.  

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Daisy

Daisy

26 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

My favorite part of today’s episode was Jane Elliot forgetting her line and Steve Burton saying it for her. “Ketamine?” “Yeah, that.”

lmao i wasn't sure if JE Forgot or that tracy was so mad/just couldn't remember the drug's name so she was like it will come to me. lol they played it off so well

30 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Talking to Lois WAS her way of getting final proof. She just didn't have a chance to talk to Dante because there everything happened very fast after that.

then, she should have done it privately, not in a public venue. (but thanks for the correct)

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driver18

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1 hour ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

So it should have been a teenaged girl's job to tell the guy she had unprotected sex with that she was going to have his baby, and what did he want to do about it? I just want a clear picture of the solution here. Would Dante have been expected to marry BL and they'd raise the baby together, being "the kind of man he is"? That doesn't sound very fair, especially if we bring Lulu into it since she just loves him so much.

No, it should have been a grown woman's job once she came back into his life, messed with his relationship, committed criminal acts against him, saw what a great guy he turned out to be, and continued to lie to his face.

driver18

driver18

35 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

You keep calling Brooklyn a lying liar who lies as if BLQ is the biggest liar on this show. Lulu is a liar, too. If she was truly JUST concerned with the man she loved having a child out there she would have told him the truth immediately instead she LIED to him for months. While it might not compare to the decades BLQ lied, it still makes her a lying liar who lies (not to mention the lies she’s told in the past.)

So is Lulu an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for not telling Brooklyn's secret? Or is she an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for knowing Brooklyn's secret and wanting to tell it and not doing so? I'm confused. Just apparently that Brooklyn isn't an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for lying to Dante for years because Lulu sucks, I guess. I dunno. I don't get it. 

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Daisy

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5 minutes ago, jsbt said:

I feel like people are also forgetting what Carly pulled re: Sonny, Brenda and Dante (among others) in 2010. At the altar, IIRC!

nope. i remember. which is why i think Carly was legit all maybe don't do this.
(or at least. maybe this way)


but yah itwas at the Altar and Brenda told Carly to shut up and spilled the tea. 

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

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44 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

To play devil's advocate, had Dante chosen BL and they were in a relationship she acknowledged yes, she would have told him.  But when he chose Lulu, did she have a right to tell him?  Would Lulu have seen it as her trying to use some leverage to sway Dante?  No easy answers.

I *think* you're asking if Brook Lynn had a right to tell him. No, I think she had an obligation to tell him regardless of whether he was in love with Lulu or not in love with anyone but not interested in Brook Lynn regardless. Dante and Brook Lynn were supposed to be friends since childhood, first and foremost. The way I see it, Brook Lynn's attitude was, well since he's not interested in me now, he doesn't get to know we have a child together. That's about ego. It reminds me of how Elizabeth's sister Hayden treated Finn after she left him and thus broke off the engagement. She lied in a letter that she lost the baby, but actually did give birth to and raise Violet. She decided after a while she wanted to see him and let him know they had a daughter, hoping to get back together, but upon finding out he had the audacity to move on with Anna, Hayden decided not to tell him about Violet. She only told the truth when forced to, because Violet was ill and Finn was an infectious disease doctor. 

I'm sure Lulu would have seen it as her trying to use leverage if he was unsure of whether he wanted to be with Lulu or Brook Lynn and Brook Lynn let him know about their child. She would probably be right. AH's Lulu brought it up to Brook Lynn this spring.

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Desperado

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I have been skipping a lot of episodes so forgive me for asking, but why did Lulu need to research who the kid Brooklyn gave up for adoption was instead of just forcing Brooklyn or Lois to tell Dante he had a kid, period?

I liked Lulu when she returned but her annoying “I need to do this RIGHT NOW!!!” when it came to finding Charlotte (whom we never saw after) and now to confront Lois in a public place where anyone could walk in and hear, including Gio who was one of the show performers - girl is driving me up the wall.

Not that I prefer “always fully dressed with a blazer Brooklyn”…

I just find their feud childish and too retro for my taste.

On to the good things:

Lucas in a tuxedo and champagne! 💖

EM and TA killed that song - it was too bad most actors weren’t there to watch.

The kids were surprisingly good and adorable. Not sure who rehearsed them, but many kudos for that work.

NuMichael still looks very young (I remember him from Y&R) and I’m here to see the fallout, I’m just mega annoyed that Carly will be winning again. 

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tveyeonyou

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6 hours ago, ulkis said:

And while I think of Gio as Gio Lawrence that musical performance was ecstasy. 

I was so impressed by his performance I looked him up on YouTube and holy moly! There's a lot of clips, he started playing when he was 3 years old. I've always liked the sound of a violin, my husband has one (and a mandolin and about 20 guitars etc) and we spent at least an hour on Gio's yt channel. 

 

Also, Lois might want to consider witness protection at this point. 

And I was glad to see nuMichael say nothing to anyone but Wiley as he took Wiley home. I thought they'd make us wait until Monday to see nuMichael.

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JMO

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3 minutes ago, driver18 said:

So is Lulu an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for not telling Brooklyn's secret? Or is she an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for knowing Brooklyn's secret and wanting to tell it and not doing so? I'm confused. Just apparently that Brooklyn isn't an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for lying to Dante for years because Lulu sucks, I guess. I dunno. I don't get it. 

I think the problem is that Lulu doesn't actually know the extent of Brook Lynn's secret.  She's made assumptions, and she's wrong about some of them.

If I go back to when BL was a teenager who got pregnant after a summer camp fling, I have sympathy for both BL to want the problem to go away without feeling comfortable having an abortion, and for Lois to have 'solved' the problem as she did.  Family member wants a child, you come across an opportunity----problem solved.  It doesn't sound like BL and Dante had the kind of substantive teen relationship where she might have involved him in any part of the process. 

After that, for BL, it was a painful memory, but it was over.  It was only Lois, Camilla and Gloria who knew otherwise.  Still no big impetus to tell Dante.

To my mind, Camilla's death might have been a turning point, where Gio, feeling as though he'd been orphaned, might have been told he still had bio family.  That would have required Lois to fess up to BL, and BL to be willing to take on the maternal role.  I was watching very loosely in the early BL days, but didn't have the sense that she was mother material, and maybe Lois didn't either. 

Enter Lulu, who is in mutual love with Dante, and who accidentally comes across the info about BL's pregnancy, but not the identity of the child.  I could argue either way whether it would have been better for Lulu to go to BL first or to Dante first, but she chose BL---who asked her not to tell anyone, and who also doesn't know it's Gio.  BL believes the child is out in the world somewhere, possibly not even knowing that he was adopted, making the knowledge of him her own burden to bear.  Lulu should have insisted on being able to tell Dante, even if she kept it quiet from everyone else, because it's too big a secret to be between two people who love each other.  That should have been the end of Lulu's part in the story.  Then Dante and/or BL could have decided if they wanted to look for the child, independently or together.  

Yes, technically, BL was keeping a huge secret from Dante, but functionally?  They'd not had a real relationship, for all BL knew the child was happily ensconced in his adoptive home, and BL and Dante had both moved on with their lives.  Not sure what would have motivated her to tell him, except....current circumstance.  

I might be a little calloused on this, because I've dealt with hundreds of teen pregnancies through my work. I could count on less than one hand the number of times Mr. Wonderful has been a part of the decision-making process. Including the time, way back when before DNA, when I was asked to fake the paternity blood test results. Instead, we had a long conversation about trust.  I have stories.  

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sacrebleu

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6 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

I know I'm not the first to say this, but I think post-prison Drew is Shiloh. That would probably garner a lot of forgiveness towards Willow, since he was a famous manipulator after all. I'm just trying to remember if he had a beef against Sonny the way this version of Drew does?

I won't be surprised if the show goes that way, but the idea that Willow is unknowingly sleeping with her rapist is completely gross.

And what happened to actual Drew, is he still in prison? 

 

FilmTVGeek80

FilmTVGeek80

27 minutes ago, driver18 said:

So is Lulu an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for not telling Brooklyn's secret? Or is she an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for knowing Brooklyn's secret and wanting to tell it and not doing so? I'm confused. Just apparently that Brooklyn isn't an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for lying to Dante for years because Lulu sucks, I guess. I dunno. I don't get it. 

Are you replying to my post or many others from the past? Because I never referred to Lulu as lying evil heifer. This situation just isn’t as black and white as you’re making it seem. While I am more on BLQ’s side than Lulu’s, I think the show has actually done a fairly good job not trying to villainize either of them. I don’t think Brooklyn is an evil lying liar who lies for not telling Dante about their son, even as an adult. I don’t think it negates her love for Dante. People who love each other can lie to each other.  I think it was decent of Lulu to keep Brooklyn’s secret because she had a layer of empathy considering her teen pregnancy, but that she wouldn’t let it drop and confronted Lois in a public place lessens that for me. Especially her assumption that BLQ knew Gio was her son and her smug attitude about it all. I just think it’s weird to keep calling Brooklyn out for being such a HORRIBLE liar while condoning Lulu’s lies and acting as if she is simply doing this out of love and completely negating that a part - not all - a part of her obsession with exposing this is because of her hatred & jealousy of Brooklyn. 

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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Okay, the wee ones got me with one of my all time favorite Jackson Five songs.

And there he went again, with the crossed arms/hands across his chest.

But hey, Mac? You've been a cop long enough to know that Tracy is a suspect, not a fucking prisoner! Please show me or tell me when she was on trial and convicted of drugging that asshat, Drew.

And Show, while it was soapy the way NuNuRecast showed up and walked out, you can MISS me with Wiley shouting "Dad!" Like Wee Emma did when Robin showed up from the "dead" over a decade ago, okay?

 

But man, I loved the slackjawed, open mouth of Drew, as the smug went away on both his and his stepford lover's face as NuNuRecast walked off.  

Did NuNuRecast's eyes also change color with the burn treatment? I can't tell if Rory's eyes are brown or deep blue.

OH.MY.GOD. Hell hath frozeneth overeth. I agreed with Mooby when he told Olivia to back off and that this explosion was for Brook Lynn and Dante to hash over.

Loved, loved, LOVED Ned's reaction.

 

 

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ulkis

ulkis

2 hours ago, madhacker said:

Next week, we'd better see Lulu get a Spencer smackdown by Laura. I remember the days of her giving Lucky a few good ones. We're way overdue for one and Lulu deserves it...

But for what, exactly? Trying to find out why and how her ex-husband, the father of her child, was lied to, and trying to get Brook Lynn and Lois to tell the truth? As I've said I don't think Lulu deserves a prize but the notion that Gio should live the rest of his life in ignorance because it shocks him is strange. And I'm not a big believer in the notion that everyone has to know the truth about everything but even if Lulu took Lois aside at the Q house Gio could have heard. A smack down about it from Laura would be strange when her keeping quiet about Nikolas messed up things quite a bit. If she didn't tell Lucky off for abandoning his son she won't say much about Lulu.

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RedRockRosie

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And Show, while it was soapy the way NuNuRecast showed up and walked out, you can MISS me with Wiley shouting "Dad!"

I didn't have a problem with that  really. How else were people to know that this totally new guy walking into the NB was Michael? Well we know of course but not everyone who watches show keeps up on the latest.

Anyhow I thought it was a good way to let the viewers know who that guy was. JMO

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Daisy

Daisy

11 minutes ago, RedRockRosie said:

I didn't have a problem with that  really. How else were people to know that this totally new guy walking into the NB was Michael? Well we know of course but not everyone who watches show keeps up on the latest.

Anyhow I thought it was a good way to let the viewers know who that guy was. JMO

what bothered me was the delay LOL 
Wiley says it and Michael is just standing in the back, and then strolls down and strikes a pose that Tyra would say was okay/ten, then Wiley takes his sweet time to appear and then the hug. 

I did think of Emma/Robin  but like you said, it was the best way (even though announcer voice was RIGHT ON IT with the role of Michael Corinthos is now this dude), to let everyone know what is what. 

 

like on the scale of 1 to Oh Heck No -this is not that high. 
them trying to duplicate "Not Barbara Jean's Heart" with Joss's stupid kidney is  way higher. 

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statsgirl

statsgirl

Today was very soapy and I am looking fprward to the next episode so kidos to GH for that.

Why were the children the last act? They should have been asleep that late. And where was Avery? She is as much Sonny's daughter as much as Donna.

20 hours ago, driver18 said:

How is this Lulu's fault?! She made sure to take Lois to an unoccupied, closed room. They shut the door. The likelihood that someone, the guy they were talking about would rudely open the closed door, is not on Lulu. 

The door was ajar and Gio heard people talking about him. So he stopped to listen.

What is on Lulu Is not to have the impulse control of a 2 year old. The adult thing to do would be to drop it while they are in this public place and go to see Lois at the Quartermaine home the next day.

Whether or not what Lulu wanted to do was right (and we have many different ideas here) Lulu wasn't thinking of Gio much less of Rocco. She was only thinking of herself as a star, about appearing a hero to Dante, maybe showing that she is a better love for him than Sam, and trying to score off off Brook Lynn. Even Carly told her to think about the consequences before she does anything.

Where is Laura when I need her?

17 hours ago, ulkis said:

Just my yearly traumatize @jsbt link:

 

Yikes. And yet more entertaining that whatever it was that Joss and Trina were doing.

9 hours ago, ulkis said:

Will beloved uncle Sonny get him a gold or silver new one, do you think?

The best violins are wood, old, and made by Renaissance craftsmen. My heart sank as he smashed what was supposedly his mother's violin.

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Artsda

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The saddest part of today and the reveal was Dante's line about the little boy with sparklers being his boy. 

It just shows how the real evil vile one in this story is Lois.  Letting Dante and Blq grow up with their son while not knowing anything. It's just appalling, how does she even live with herself much less in the Quartermaine house while all 3 of them shared a roof. 

Sonny voice of reason keeping everyone from Dante and Brooklyn.

If Willow really cared to make a deal she would not do deals with Drew as her mouthpiece. 

Yes Ned, you should have known your minor child had a baby.  Take your anger out on your lying ex. 

Cody was the only family member Georgie and James has in the room?  Felicia and Spinelli not in this episode..

I feel so sorry Scout stuck with Drew. 

Go Michael take your kid. 

Tracy being stuck in jail instead of at the reveal was a choice. 

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absnow54

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17 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Cody was the only family member Georgie and James has in the room?  Felicia and Spinelli not in this episode..

The obvious budget cuts really took me out of the episode. Like both actors were there while you were filming, but no, they can’t pepper in a few reaction shots because then they’d have to be paid!

21 minutes ago, Artsda said:

I feel so sorry Scout stuck with Drew. 

At least Aunt Molly was there!

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Bringonthedrama

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39 minutes ago, Artsda said:

The saddest part of today and the reveal was Dante's line about the little boy with sparklers being his boy. 

It just shows how the real evil vile one in this story is Lois.  Letting Dante and Blq grow up with their son while not knowing anything. It's just appalling, how does she even live with herself much less in the Quartermaine house while all 3 of them shared a roof. 

 

Yes Ned, you should have known your minor child had a baby.  Take your anger out on your lying ex. 

I agree re: Dante's reaction and Lois.

I didn't get the impression that Ned is angry with Brook Lynn or Chase. He was venting to Chase as he felt hurt and sad that Brook Lynn didn't tell him anything. I thought with the one line, WK did a good job of showing that Ned's anger toward Lois is boiling just under the surface.

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Seriously, no Gio or Brooklyn or Lois today?? What a waste of my time. Lol I just kept waiting to see them. I thought the ending was a bit weird, just Michael walking in and getting Wiley and leaving. And everyone just looking shocked. Why no happy faces? Sonny looked almost as if he and Michael were still in a feud about something. IDK 

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nilyank

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Everyone was already emotionally spent after the Gio reveal, they didn't know how to react to Michael's return where he seems to be 100% recovered from 3rd degree burns. Someone hasn't been telling his family how well his treatment was going.  When they open up MC pool we will see if Michael has any scars.

Wherever BLQ disappeared to, I hoped she changed clothing.

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statsgirl

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Someone needs to tell Mooby that once your beard starts going grey, you either have to die it or stop wearing scruff because it's very aging.

6 hours ago, madhacker said:

My only question about the Gio aftermath:

It seemed to me that just about everybody was more concerned about Dante and Lois rather than the poor kid who just minutes ago had a mental freak-out and stormed off.

I think that Lois ran off after him, and then Brook Lynn left too. Olivia and Ned seemed too stunned.

I wonder if Ned and Tracy will be angry enough to kick Lois out of the Quartermaine house.

5 hours ago, Desperado said:

I have been skipping a lot of episodes so forgive me for asking, but why did Lulu need to research who the kid Brooklyn gave up for adoption was instead of just forcing Brooklyn or Lois to tell Dante he had a kid, period?

To make the "J'accuse!" even more forceful.

But everything that Lulu had was circumstantial; even if Camilla faked a pregnancy there was no proof that the baby she adopted was Gio. What was Lulu going to do if Lois denied that Gio was Brook Lynn's baby? Lulu should have done a DNA test on Dante and Gio; I heard that it's very easy to get one done in Port Charles and then she would have had something substantial to confront Lois with.

It's Lulu's half-assed investigative skills that make it look like it's about a vendetta for her rather than righting a wrong.

1 hour ago, Artsda said:

Cody was the only family member Georgie and James has in the room?  Felicia and Spinelli not in this episode.

I thought that I saw Felicia in the audience but maybe that was yesterday.

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DanaMB

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7 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Did Becky break her leg in real life

I came here to ask the same thing. 
 

As for Lulu, I think she’s awful for demanding Lois tell the truth that night, after the Nurses Ball. She could have given her at least the next day. Instead, let’s ruin a night of fun (theoretically) honoring a good cause with life altering news that could wait one more day. 

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Winston Wolfe

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13 hours ago, JMO said:

Kudos to the writers for giving us something with enough layers, controversy and head-banging behaviors to keep the comments going right through to the next episode.  Didn't think they had it in them.  

Agreed - that thought has been on my mind for a while now. As much as we bash this Soap - and boy, do we - this S/L has generated a tremendous amount of thoughtful dialogue on this Board. And virtually everyone here has a viable perspective. As for me, it's like a Rubric's Cube of morality, if that makes any sense. 

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jqdeco

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I enjoyed the Gio reveal being at the Nurses Ball. Good soapy fun. How else can the show get everyone in the same room to see reactions?

I am one of the few that doesn’t blame Lulu. She has always been a bit of a bull in a china shop, so no surprise how she went about handling this. I think her original adoption story she was writing was more about her trying to understand how others felt that went through something similar and ramifications before deciding to blow the whistle. And as a mother that had no idea she had a baby (Charlotte), she really wanted Dante to know about Gio. 
Call me a grinch, but I hated the kids singing to close out the NB. I thought it was painful to watch. 

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