S39.E09: Two for the Price of One

[Whimsy]

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An unexpected twist shakes up the game and sends two people home.

Original airdate 11/20/19

[LadyChatts]

So absolute radio silence from Dan and the gang after last week’s TC?  Nothing at TC  about last week?

Two extremely satisfying boots tonight.  Unfortunately, no one named Dan went home.  But I’ll take it. 

Missy, writes Tommy’s name down.  Gets voted off.  “Who did it?” 

Tommy: “You came after me.”

Missy: “No I didn’t.”  Even though she just wrote his name down.

I thought Karishma was trying to get her name written down just to play her idol in spectacular fashion.  Elaine redeemed herself tonight.  I guess she’s better than I thought. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by LadyChatts

[Lady Calypso]

I mean, I was hoping for Dan and Elizabeth to go, but the other two involved in last week's issue (Aaron and Missy) aren't bad choices either. 

I started out rooting for Missy but man, the last few episodes turned me off of her, especially with her last minute plea and her obnoxious exit. Sorry Missy; you weren't as slick as you thought. As it turns out, you WEREN'T running the game. 

Karishma was obnoxious too, don't get me wrong. She IS lazy and she DOESN'T do anything. She had to be forced out to go for coconuts in order to find her hidden immunity idol. Karishma acts like she's been part of the game when she hasn't. However.... she was right on the nose about Missy. She knew she was getting used by Missy. 

[Haleth]

Suck it, Aaron. 
Suck it, Missy. 
Suck it, Elizabeth. 
Janet for the win!

[mojoween]

Goddamn.  An Asian-American followed by three African-Americans back to back to back.  Jesus Christ.

What was that about inclusion and representation now?
Also, Missy is not a bully.  Shut it, Karishma.

[vb68]

Look at Elaine the power player!

Missy was indeed playing the game too hard and should had probably thought about the social game more than she did. I think she got what she deserved.

[PaperTree]

Boom!  bye Aaron.

Boom!  bye Missy!

Hahahahahaha!

[Drogo]

Missy and Noura aren't as smart as originally thought.  

[Rachel RSL]

Ok so I guess we’re going to pretend like nothing happened and everything is all good now. Cool, cool. Thanks, Survivor. 🙄 The only saving grace was we got to see Elizabeth lose her 2 strongest allies. Suck on that!

In lighter news, Noura celebrating her victory while her tribe mates all mourned the loss of PB & J was hilarious! I kind of love her.

[Ms Blue Jay]

I'm disappointed. I liked Aaron.  But whatever, this whole season is a mess since Kellee's been booted.  

I'm glad that Missy called out the show, "Women are typically the first to be voted out.  Minorities, second."  Good for her.  (And I'm fully aware there are minority women.  Like Karishma and Lauren; the last two minorities standing.)

Missy saying goodbye at the end of the episode:

Edited November 21, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[LadyChatts]

Heh, I just got thinking that Chelsea said in her exit interviews how Karishma would turn on her former tribe in a heart beat.  

Missy can sure dish it out, but can't take it.  She was playing way too hard.  When she talked about Kellee being a social player, I thought she might need to take some notes.  Karishma had zero reason to go along with what Missy wanted.

Also, for some other highlights: Noura jumping down prematurely after winning the IC, costing her tribe PB & J, going to TC second, and sending her tribe back to the old deserted Lairo camp.

And Rob saying from his box seats about Dean rolling up his sleeves to show his muscles.

Edited November 21, 2019 by LadyChatts

[PaperTree]

1 minute ago, Rachel RSL said:

Ok so I guess we’re going to pretend like nothing happened and everything is all good now. Cool, cool. Thanks, Survivor. 🙄

Yep.  It's the franchise MO.

[LanceM]

"You need to kill Elaine slowly and methodically"

lol

[Ms Blue Jay]

4 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Goddamn.  An Asian-American followed by three African-Americans back to back to back.  Jesus Christ.

I know, trust me.  It sucks.  The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.  

[PaperTree]

Just now, LanceM said:

"You need to kill Elaine slowly and methodically"

lol

Bless her heart.....

[Ms Blue Jay]

6 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Missy and Noura aren't as smart as originally thought.  

Was someone under the impression that Noura was brilliant?

[truthaboutluv]

These players would have been idiots to not take Missy and Aaron out when they had such a golden opportunity to. I knew Aaron and Missy's arrogance and too aggressive play would come back and bite them in the ass. They were way too open with how hard they were playing.

Everyone knew it and so everyone knew what huge threats they were. That said, while I'm fine with the Missy vote, I would have totally been okay with Tommy leaving. While Missy was yes, arrogant, Tommy has this annoying as fuck air of entitlement about him. And it just grates on my nerves. 

And with her idol that no one knows she has, it's looking more and more likely that Karishma is going to GOAT her way to the end. Awesome. Rob's even calling it. Speaking of Karishma, I'm just going to assume that there was a lot editing didn't show of her and Missy's interactions. Because honestly, I was very confused by that exchange when Missy was telling her of the plan to get out Tommy. 

Karishma just seemed to be acting weird to me with the not looking at Missy's face and then she stalks off saying Missy is bullying her, etc. Yeah color me confused. And it's not that I doubt Missy's arrogance, because we did see that but the way Karishma was going on, this just seemed much deeper than anything we'd been shown.

That said, speaking of Missy, girl's a little scary at times. That line to Elizabeth at the end there to kill Elaine and do it slow and methodically...um, okay. In any case, Elizabeth ain't got no power to kill anyone. Not without her muscle of Aaron and Missy by her side. Well maybe this will be her opportunity to show her superior game play. Not holding my breath though. 

And I just realized again that somehow Nutty Noura and Whiny Karishma have both made it this far into the game, outlasting so many others. Wow. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by truthaboutluv

[cooksdelight]

10 minutes in and they are already doing an immunity challenge. I knew something was up.

That was interesting. Moreso than I thought it might be. Kudos to Karishma for holding onto her idol. 

[kaygeeret]

So Kellee and Jamal don't get televised boot interviews?

Apparently all is candy cane and roses at ye olde survivor.

[cooksdelight]

Missy scares the crap out of me.

[LizBug]

Crickets!

[Eolivet]

I get that this episode has been edited for months, but really they couldn't maybe not pick the sexual harasser to get extended strategy confessionals, have the one woman who spoke out against him pledging her loyalty to him, and give him a bunch of screentime in the episode after they graphically depicted the extent of his sexual harassment?

::Richard Gere in Chicago voice:: That's Survivor.

[Lamima]

Well so glad I didn't watch. Yep, so eff off show. Dan and Elizabeth should be gone. And what's with the lying leaks? Lying liars! #stillnotwatching

[LadyChatts]

Lauren is really not perceptive of her fellow tribemates and surroundings, is she?  First Elaine wasn’t smart enough to find an idol, then she believed Karishma was sick.  If you told her that casting a vote in the jury was actually voting against that person, she might believe it.  

I was annoyed to see another endurance IC, but that was kind of cool.  Noura and Elaine were the last two people I expected to win. 

After this season (well, I guess next season since it already filmed), do you think they’ll go back to wearing swimsuits vs underwear, after all the backlash from Dan-gate?

Edited November 21, 2019 by LadyChatts

[Ms Blue Jay]

2 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I was annoyed to see another endurance IC, but that was kind of cool.  Noura and Elaine were the last two people I expected to win. 

I know Elaine does a lot of fake "Oh I'm just a dumb hick" stuff, but I loved how unbothered she was throughout that challenge, like this is the easiest shit I've ever done in my life, you dumb city folk.  It was so funny.  She looked Boston Rob-ish.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Ms Blue Jay

[truthaboutluv]

6 minutes ago, kaygeeret said:

So Kellee and Jamal don't get televised boot interviews?

Do you mean right after they were voted off? Because yes they did. 

[Bryce Lynch]

13 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Goddamn.  An Asian-American followed by three African-Americans back to back to back.  Jesus Christ.

What was that about inclusion and representation now?
Also, Missy is not a bully.  Shut it, Karishma.

Missy is a bully, a liar and one of the most despicable human beings ever to play Survivor.

[Drogo]

8 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Was someone under the impression that Noura was brilliant?

I thought at minimum she could figure out that having PB&J > not having PB&J?

[kaygeeret]

2 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Do you mean right after they were voted off? Because yes they did. 

Sorry, I missed that...thanks for the correction.

[Ms Blue Jay]

8 minutes ago, Drogo said:

I thought at minimum she could figure out that having PB&J > not having PB&J?

Peanut allergy?  Just kidding.

[nlkm9]

I really cannot believe people are bringing up race in the last few boots. Missy was very very nasty and it doesn’t matter what color she is she deserved the vote. Same with Aaron. Race/ ethnicity was not a factor in there votes and rather than trying to link the last 3 boots with color , why not celebrate that there is such huge diversity in the cast. 

[Drogo]

22 minutes ago, LanceM said:

"You need to kill Elaine slowly and methodically"

Yeah, what the fuck was that?  And the denial that she was going after Tommy.. silly wabbit.

You played yourself, Missy.. don't let the door hit you. 

[LanceM]

3 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Yeah, what the fuck was that?  And the denial that she was going after Tommy.. silly wabbit.

You played yourself, Missy.. don't let the door hit you. 

I thought it was a funny line myself and not serious at all.

Yeah Missy never saw it coming.

[PaperTree]

Janet is my Jersey home girl.  She reminds me a lot of my favorite aunt.

I don't think she'll win, but I'm happy she wasn't booted tonight.

Maybe Karishma will overplay and fail to make final goat.

[Mr. Miner]

I thought it was really dope when Missy got voted off. 🙄

[pennben]

I’m very pleased that harassment was completely solved in last week s episode of survivor such that there isn’t a need to even think about it or the fallout on this weeks episode. Jeff & his fantastic tribal discussions ARE magic!

[Maggie Mae]

Two down, two to go. Elaine redeemed herself a bit and so did Tommy when they talked about Karishma. Treat people the way you want to be treated...yes!!    Janet, I still want you to win but damn woman!!! stay away from Dan. I'm starting to love Noura, crazy as she is.  Dean, you're not all that! Seriously!

[PaperTree]

4 minutes ago, Maggie Mae said:

Janet, I still want you to win but damn woman!!! stay away from Dan. I'm starting to love Noura, crazy as she is. 

I'm hoping she's using him for a meat shield and not buying his BS (crossed fingers).

Noura so reminds me of Abi Marie.  A wrench in everybody's game 🙂

[ProfCrash]

17 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Yeah, what the fuck was that?  And the denial that she was going after Tommy.. silly wabbit.

You played yourself, Missy.. don't let the door hit you. 

I took at as two high level athletes talking about the competition. I didn’t take too much from it.

Boring episode. No Island of the Idols. A boring challenge. Predictable boots. The only thing that wasn’t predictable was Karishma finding an idol. She is a goat who knows she is a goat and thinks that finding an idol makes her less of a goat.

[EllenB]

I wonder if Noura had the same confusion I did, that the winner of each team would go head-to-head AFTER the first part of the challenge.  At least I have the excuse that I was shoveling food in my mouth and not listening closely.

Missy became much more likeable AFTER she was voted out.  She was certainly bossy, but not actually a bully.  And Karishma has absolutely no clue of social game. 

I honestly did not realize Aaron was black.  I was thinking maybe Greek or other Mediterranean background, or even Hungarian - some of my Hungarian relatives look like him (in skin tone only - not nearly as good-looking).

[Ms Blue Jay]

7 minutes ago, EllenB said:

I honestly did not realize Aaron was black.  I was thinking maybe Greek or other Mediterranean background, or even Hungarian - some of my Hungarian relatives look like him (in skin tone only - not nearly as good-looking).

So………… am I invited to the family reunion?  Kidding.  Not really kidding. Kidding…………..  

After Aaron's heartfelt apology I was really won over.  But of course, any time I think anyone is remotely positive they get voted out of the show.  

[Wandering Snark]

Interesting "twist", talk about curveballs! Not really interesting in how it played out though as each 'side' took out the biggest threat not the easy vote... overall it was mostly tribal which makes for an odd layout/episode. Eh. At least they are trying to switch things up and keep people on their toes. This season is still dragging though, and poorly cast (imo).

ETA: And also, Jamal had the face and demeanor of a classic bitter jury member on that bench!

Edited November 21, 2019 by Wandering Snark

[Haleth]

9 minutes ago, EllenB said:

I honestly did not realize Aaron was black.  I was thinking maybe Greek or other Mediterranean background, or even Hungarian - some of my Hungarian relatives look like him (in skin tone only - not nearly as good-looking).

Me too. When Missy mentioned two African Americans with immunity last week I was confused, thinking she couldn’t mean Jamal. 

[Lantern7]

No recap from last week. I'm a bit surprised, because I feel the episodes pushed Survivor into the mainstream once again, and Probst and Co. would feel there's no such thing as bad attention.

I get how Karishma can bug, and that it doesn't have to be an "either/or" thing with her and Noura . . . but I want Noura out. Blindsided, expected, whatever. She bugs. And I'd add hyperbole, but last week ruined that for me. And I'm happy Karishma snagged an idol. If it comes down to her, Elaine and Janet on Day 39, would that be the worst thing? I mean, IOTI is basically prelude to the fortieth season.

When nobody goes to the IOTI, what do Rob and Sandra do? Do they have to live like the contestants?

Edited November 21, 2019 by Lantern7

[Alice Mudgarden]

I love how Dan being inappropriate and creepy was totally not a problem, but Karishma being whiny? Intolerable.

I mean, Karishma seriously bugs, but after letting Dan's behavior slide, you get zero percent wiggle room to complain about anything else, guys.

[Hanahope]

Aaron...if you wanted to lay low and not be a threat, don’t win the first 2 individual immunity.

Im glad Karishma played with her heart and her head.  She didn’t get along with Missy and clearly Missy was only using Karishma. There’s no reason to think Missy would Jeep her linger than Tommy.  If she’s a goat, at least it can be with nicer people.

Gee so sorry Elizabeth that you lost 2 allies.  Go cry to Dan.

i thought Janet would go idol hunting at old Lairo.  Maybe she did but didn’t find anything.  Lol that Karishma found an idol.  

Rob reads tribal very well.

[Bryce Lynch]

Whatever happened to "The person voted out will be asked to leave the tribal council area immediately?

Why was Missy allowed to linger, interrogate the people still in the game, tell Elizabeth to target Elaine, etc?  

[mythoughtis]

27 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Whatever happened to "The person voted out will be asked to leave the tribal council area immediately?

Why was Missy allowed to linger, interrogate the people still in the game, tell Elizabeth to target Elaine, etc?  

Because Missy a)decided the rules didn’t apply to her and  b)stayed far enough away from Jeff that he couldn’t take her arm and yank her out of the council area? 
 

 I am not a fan of Karishma because she  doesn’t pull her weight around camp, but she was absolutely correct in this episode. Missy was talking at her with the Tommy plan, not to her.  It was obvious she was treating Karishma as if she was less important than herself.  

Edited November 21, 2019 by mythoughtis

[EllenB]

20 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

So………… am I invited to the family reunion?  Kidding.  Not really kidding. Kidding…………..  

After Aaron's heartfelt apology I was really won over.  But of course, any time I think anyone is remotely positive they get voted out of the show.  

Sure, you can come!  Hope you like cabbage!

How about publicly proclaiming your support of Dan just to put your curse on him?  I've never had a single person I supported on a reality show win, but maybe it's time to start thinking of negative endorsement to get people voted off.

[PaperTree]

9 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

No recap from last week. I'm a bit surprised, because I feel the episodes pushed Survivor into the mainstream once again, and Probst and Co. would feel there's no stuff thing as bad attention.

It appears they are going "duck and cover" followed up with a healthy dose of "Nothing to see here, let's move on...."