Michael and Juliana: She's Not! a Prostitute

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:

maybe he’s a Butler working for some rich guy. Butlers make a good salary plus room and board. 

Maybe he caused an accident and didn’t have insurance, so the judge decreed he had to be a butler

[Auntie Anxiety]

On 11/5/2019 at 11:28 AM, Gobi said:

I found it amusing when Michael was explaining how his marriage ended, because they had grown and changed and were not the same people as when they married. 

Translation: Michael’s wife got tired of putting up with his bullshit.

So Michael’s ex-wife was the officiant at his and Juliana’s wedding? Yep, she was too happy to be rid of him. When my ex-husband dies, I plan to go to his funeral, just to make sure he’s dead and buried. Kinda the same thing?

With their daughter named CeCe, I’m thinking they were huge fans of The Nanny.

Edited November 12, 2019 by Auntie Anxiety

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

The rich guy would be like Darcey and wear on-trend brands such as Gucci - at least a belt or a sweater or sneakers.  We saw the plain baseball cap. It could be a rights thing to not show certain labels on the show.  Darcey wore a lot of noticeable stuff with logos. Old money would be less conspicuous. The folks would definitely have some expensive stuff but no vulgar displays. He would also have better fitting shirts.

I am not rich but I do take some stuff to the tailor to hem or adjust a bit to fit me better. Most people are not off the rack sizes.

I'm always suspicious of people who wear heavily logo laden clothes, accessories or shoes.  Like you said, it's just not a thing people with a lot of money do. 

The people that rich people want to communicate their wealth to will know without the need for any labels.  

For instance - my mom and I were at the Porsche dealership so she could have them look at her car.  My mom casually pointed out another woman and said "oh, that's from the latest Eileen Fischer collection"

No labels at all, no gaudy "EF" anywhere.  

People who are desperate to convince the world that they have money seem overly invested in logos because they can communicate a message about their "wealth" to the rest of the world.  I think most super wealthy people don't particularly want the entire world to know they have money, because that is problematic, and also a little gauche and showy.  

So, I'd be more suspicious about the fit of michaels clothes.  But then again , the fact that he agreed to be on this show makes me question his wealth.  I just don't imagine anyone who is truly moneyed and from Greenwich agreeing to this particular show.  

A real housewives show, maybe.  But this show is unadulterated garbage with participants from the lowest socioeconomic backgrounds.  Dani, Nicole, Angela.....Paul!  These should not people that a moneyed person from Greenwich wants to be associated with. 

ETA -- let me be clear, my parents have this kind of money, I absolutely do not, but I like things for how they look and fit, not a label 

Edited November 12, 2019 by RealReality

[gingerella]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

the fact that he agreed to be on this show makes me question his wealth.  I just don't imagine anyone who is truly moneyed and from Greenwich agreeing to this particular show.  

^THIS^...times a bajillion

[Mu Shu]

Labels are big with people who have little money. It’s a status symbol, and cheaper than a car or house. Plenty of poor people carrying those fugly Michael Kors bags and cheap junk from the Coach outlet with plenty of Cs on it. I should know, I got a really ugly coach bag at sawgrass mills.

[iwasish]

9 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Could be, but if it is illegal, he would be pretty stupid and reckless to go on 90DF to bring attention to it.  

He thinks with his dick, so there’s that. 

And maybe someone will do some research on his financials and find out he’s one step from ruin. He wouldn’t be the first reality show participant to be living in a house of cards. 

[Gobi]

3 minutes ago, iwasish said:

He thinks with his dick, so there’s that. 

And maybe someone will do some research on his financials and find out he’s one step from ruin. He wouldn’t be the first reality show participant to be living in a house of cards. 

According to an earlier post, Juliana says they can't afford to turn the heat on during the day. Doesn't exactly scream rich to me.

[gingerella]

9 minutes ago, Gobi said:

According to an earlier post, Juliana says they can't afford to turn the heat on during the day. Doesn't exactly scream rich to me.

Turn the heat on in Brasil or Greenwich? Because I wouldn't think anyone needed heat in Brasil.

[iwasish]

7 minutes ago, Gobi said:

According to an earlier post, Juliana says they can't afford to turn the heat on during the day. Doesn't exactly scream rich to me.

And Colt drove a car with no a/c. At least Colt didn’t pretend he had lots of money.

Michael mumbled something about a dropping the topic of the over extended  credit card because he can deal with the hundred thousand ( suggesting that’s how much she spent).’ll bet he bitched at her and she threatened to stop seeing him.  
 

[RealReality]

27 minutes ago, iwasish said:

He thinks with his dick, so there’s that. 

And maybe someone will do some research on his financials and find out he’s one step from ruin. He wouldn’t be the first reality show participant to be living in a house of cards. 

I fully expect the 90DF sleuth crew to get in gear and get the goods.  Which is another reason why it was ridiculous for him to go on this show.  A few Google searches would show how much information can be unearthed.  

[druzy]

Michael's house is in contract- maybe he's moving to Brazil 🤷‍♀️

He owes taxes on 2 of his vehicles. 

$2,703.26 for taxes on car A

$550.93 for taxes on car B

[Frozendiva]

3 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Labels are big with people who have little money. It’s a status symbol, and cheaper than a car or house. Plenty of poor people carrying those fugly Michael Kors bags and cheap junk from the Coach outlet with plenty of Cs on it. I should know, I got a really ugly coach bag at sawgrass mills.

I have a couple of Michael Kors bags. I usually get them on sale. Sometimes the deal is sweet with the eBates/Rakuten cashback.

[magemaud]

5 hours ago, RealReality said:

I’m always suspicious of people who wear heavily logo laden clothes, accessories or shoes.  Like you said, it's just not a thing people with a lot of money do. 

You mean Darcey, Stacey and Tom are fakers? 

[LilaFowler]

A Brazilian woman in CT and she can't turn on the heat during the day? Good luck this winter, sis. She probably would have been more comfortable in his old apartment, not shivering in a big, drafty house.

[Gobi]

9 hours ago, gingerella said:

Turn the heat on in Brasil or Greenwich? Because I wouldn't think anyone needed heat in Brasil.

Greenwich.

[AZChristian]

12 hours ago, RealReality said:

Dani, Nicole, Angela.....Paul!  These should not people that a moneyed person from Greenwich wants to be associated with. 

And yet, I could see him fitting right in, sitting on the couch with them  on an all-season "Tell All."

[Mrs. Hanson]

12 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

When my ex-husband dies, I plan to go to his funeral, just to make sure he’s dead and buried. Kinda the same thing?

This^^^^^^made me laugh out loud.  I kinda feel the same way.

12 hours ago, RealReality said:

the fact that he agreed to be on this show makes me question his wealth.  I just don't imagine anyone who is truly moneyed and from Greenwich agreeing to this particular show.  

I agree.  There is money and there is Greenwich money.  I may be from MN but we have quite a few monied people, and one in particular (I doubt anyone here would know of him) was known for showing up at a car dealership in a flannel shirt, jeans and tennis shoes and paying for a new truck in cash.  Same for many NFL/NBA/NHL players.  In MN people with money tend to be practical, not showy.  Heck even Prince was known for his love of drugstore brand lotions and creams!

6 hours ago, magemaud said:

You mean Darcey, Stacey and Tom are fakers?

NOOOOO!!!!!  (Insert sarcasm emoji here.)

[Elizzikra]

I'm just getting caught up and I'm in love. With Howie. That cute, curly, chocolate dog of Michael's.

Free Howie.

[Pepper Mostly]

On 11/6/2019 at 5:41 PM, shockermolar said:

I asked my 21 year old son, who is my partner in 90DF watching crime, if Juliana is hot. He said, "I don't get it. She has the body of a 15 year old boy. Was he looking for that cause I thought all the old rich guys were after tits and ass. But I guess he can buy that for her once she gets here." And I cried a little over how well I have raised my son. 

I wish you and your son could have a watch party with me and my son. We would probably have a blast.

On 11/11/2019 at 5:36 PM, Mu Shu said:

maybe he’s a Butler working for some rich guy. Butlers make a good salary plus room and board. But not rich.

A professional butler would be better dressed and groomed on his day off than Michael was. His clothes would be good quality and fit well. His hair would be well cut and styled. His posture would be good and he would speak well. Michael might be a grounds keeper maybe.

[Elizzikra]

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A professional butler would be better dressed and groomed on his day off than Michael was. His clothes would be good quality and fit well. His hair would be well cut and styled. His posture would be good and he would speak well.

Maybe not. Models always say in interviews that they have their hair in a messy bun and don't wear makeup or nice clothes when they aren't working.

[Christina]

On 11/11/2019 at 3:04 PM, Frozendiva said:

One commenter on this week's Reality Tea comment page mentioned that Juliana has been married once already Interesting.

I just read that, too. Unfortunately, the supporting evidence is again found on Soapdirt. I'm having a hell of a time avoiding that site.

Also, people have asked about the scars on Juliana's elbow. It's from a motorcycle accident.

On 11/11/2019 at 11:14 AM, Elizzikra said:

I didn't think that Larissa's children were removed from her care, but that she voluntarily placed them with relatives because she could not afford to provide for them.

That was another Larissa lie. She left her first son home alone when her husband was at work and a neighbor called because he had been crying for hours. He was four or five months old. Husband filed for divorce and full custody and received it. She was ordered to take anger management, parenting classes, have clean drug tests and show proof of treatment of her mental health issues before she would be granted visitation and parenting time.

She didn't and just moved on to husband two. When that son was seven months old, she put her husband in the hospital from an assault and he filed for divorce and sole custody and won. She again was given a reunification plan that she didn't bother with and moved on with her life sans children. 

A few years later she had her daughter and she was removed from Larissa for reasons that haven't been disclosed, and Larissa's dad and step-mom are raising her. The only possible adoption is of the first son by his step-mother after her ex-husband filed to have her parental rights terminated for abandonment. It sounds like her second husband may have also filed the same thing. Larissa's story of her son's paternal aunt adopting him is pure Larissa lying and one of the reasons people really hate her. She received a lot of support for that claim originally after what can only be described as anti-adoption assholes started bashing her. The court documents and public record vital statistics have been posted online by her ex and haters who got pissed at her lies.

I lost another quote somehow, but I agree with whoever said that all the other espicy woman are probably jealous. I think Jeniffer may have a chance at a wealthier/non Coltee looking man because she wasn't a horrible person or anything, she and Teem just weren't compatible. According to Juan, Pao tried for several years to land an American man before she got Roos, and that's why she pretended to be more conservative at first. It wasn't until her first season of Happily Ever After that she became nearly unbearable to most of us and showed a side of her personality that wasn't very kind. I imagine that would show quickly to the people she was dating. Larissa has too much baggage and only had to pretend to be a decent person to Colt for a week in Cancun after her friend set them up and Colt pursued the K1.

I know I was going to post something else about Juliana but do not remember what it was, so I'm sure I'll be back in a minute.

[Anduril]

On 11/6/2019 at 5:41 PM, shockermolar said:

I asked my 21 year old son, who is my partner in 90DF watching crime, if Juliana is hot. He said, "I don't get it. She has the body of a 15 year old boy. Was he looking for that cause I thought all the old rich guys were after tits and ass. But I guess he can buy that for her once she gets here." And I cried a little over how well I have raised my son. 

Guys like this seem to prefer women who have no obvious female features.  They have bodies like teenage boys.  It gives me a pedo vibe.

[Neurochick]

1 hour ago, Anduril said:

Guys like this seem to prefer women who have no obvious female features.  They have bodies like teenage boys.  It gives me a pedo vibe.

I think Juliana has plenty of female features.  There are a lot of women out here, especially young women who aren't 36-24-36.  A woman doesn't have to be "curvy" to be a "real woman."

[b2H]

On 11/11/2019 at 3:30 AM, Christina said:

I did not listen to this myself and probably won't, but the link was sent to me because Juliana apparently tells everyone that Michael is not that rich, they cannot turn the heat on during the day because it is too expensive, we viewers act like we know more about her life than she does and she's tired of the hateful messages she is getting.

She may have also insulted Larissa because Larissa got mad at her for something. Probably jealousy because Juliana landed a man with money and the best she could do was Colt. Two divorces and three children removed from your care because you are deemed a danger to them by the courts all before you hit the age of 27 limits your options, I guess.

Nine slides:

Larissa gets mad at the opening of an envelope.  I would not use her as a guideline to the level of stuff Juliana is dealing with.

Edited November 14, 2019 by b2H

[Christina]

Michael has a fan...

[Christina]

Juliana says she was not married before, she just lived with her 45-year-old boyfriend. I wonder where the error happened? The marriage license paperwork that was found says she was.

[Christina]

It's great when parents and their new partners can get along in real life, but this trash tv people!! Do your jobs!!!

[Frozendiva]

So Juliana's husband/boyfriend also has a significant age difference with her. Some women in their early 20s may look at a middle-aged dude, but only if they are well off or have something to offer. - like a particular lifestyle. Nothing wrong with marrying for money, but there does need to be something that ties them - some shared interests, world views, education, etc. Sometimes the 20 or so year age difference brings a massive power imbalance. Maybe previous boyfriends have been closer to her age and life experience.

The keeping the heat down during the day is a bit ridiculous. If you live in a cold climate, you cannot have little to no heat when it is cold out/winter. The pipes can easily freeze and they could burst and you could have major damage. In very cold weather, you are to keep your house temp at minimum 17C. Michael could easily buy a few space heaters to warm up the rooms - it'll save gas heating but the power bill may go up.

[Kareem]

If she’s been with Greenwich since she was 20, she must’ve been babycakes when she was living with the other guy.  

[Azubah]

A friend who lives in that area told me that Greenwich real estate has been tanking lately, so maybe Michael got his new house for relatively cheap.

Not cheap enough to also afford heat, but hey, don't be so demanding.

[gavinmac]

On 11/7/2019 at 5:28 AM, watchingtvaddict said:

I'm so interested in this couple because from the spoilers it sounds like the wife is in on/okay with the relationship. Getting your EX to marry you? So, I'm looking forward to this couple post show. Are they going to implode? Is Juliana going to get a modeling gig...

It also sounds like Michael didn't try to get Juliana over to the States on a tourist visa... but a work visa as it sounded like he was sponsoring her to model? I can see how that might have raised flags.

If she had just applied as a regular tourist looking to check out the sites of the States maybe she would have been admitted? But, if she stated she was going to the States to stay/work with a man 20 years her senior I could see how that would raise flags. 

I missed the fact he tried for a work visa, maybe i wasn't watching closely enough. She couldn't get a tourist visa. She's young, she's attractive, she's poor, owns no property, and doesn't have a steady high paying salaried job. As a model she probably has sporadic work and an itinerant lifestyle and no strong ties to Brazil. Young Brazilian women don't fly to the USA alone as tourists just to visit Disney World.  The embassy would know an American dude was pulling the strings, and she'd be at high risk to attempt to immigrate to the USA overstay and work as a model or as an escort.

For what it's worth "Have you worked as a prostitute in the last ten years?" is a question on the written form for ALL K-1 visa applicants, along with "Do you plan to overthrow the American government?" "Have you ever been a terrorist, etc."  I know this because I helped fill out the form for my Cambodian fiancee now wife.

The applicant checks "No" and usually the consular officer isn't going to ask about prostitution at the interview, but usually the applicant isn't an impoverished hot looking 20 year old with a history of being flown to Croatia for yacht parties.

The police clearance record is also required of all K-1 visa applicants. And you're instructed to submit it before the interview.  So I'm wondering if this police certificate drama is made up by TLC, or if they were just late submitting a routine, required document.

On 11/11/2019 at 1:30 AM, Christina said:

I did not listen to this myself and probably won't, but the link was sent to me because Juliana apparently tells everyone that Michael is not that rich, they cannot turn the heat on during the day because it is too expensive, we viewers act like we know more about her life than she does and she's tired of the hateful messages she is getting.

On 11/11/2019 at 6:12 PM, Gobi said:

According to an earlier post, Juliana says they can't afford to turn the heat on during the day. Doesn't exactly scream rich to me.

On 11/11/2019 at 6:22 PM, gingerella said:

Turn the heat on in Brasil or Greenwich? Because I wouldn't think anyone needed heat in Brasil.

On 11/12/2019 at 12:38 AM, LilaFowler said:

A Brazilian woman in CT and she can't turn on the heat during the day? Good luck this winter, sis. She probably would have been more comfortable in his old apartment, not shivering in a big, drafty house.

On 11/14/2019 at 7:41 PM, Frozendiva said:

The keeping the heat down during the day is a bit ridiculous. If you live in a cold climate, you cannot have little to no heat when it is cold out/winter. The pipes can easily freeze and they could burst and you could have major damage. In very cold weather, you are to keep your house temp at minimum 17C. Michael could easily buy a few space heaters to warm up the rooms - it'll save gas heating but the power bill may go up.

I'm gonna address this heat thing. My wife is from Cambodia. It only dips a bit below 72 degrees in Cambodia a few nights of the year, and all the Cambodians then break out their jackets and wool hats and talk about how cold it is.   

My wife arrived in the USA three months ago, and it has just started to get a bit cold in the part of the USA where we live. She keeps turning the heat up to 78 degrees. I keep turning it down, and she pouts.   

It's very possible that Michael is respectably rich and can and does heat his house properly, and that Brazilian Juliana is turning up the thermostat to batshit crazy tropical heat settings. And then Michael goes into American Dad mode and tells his daughter to stop turning up the heat, it's wasting money.

Edited November 16, 2019 by gavinmac

[Mrs. Hanson]

37 minutes ago, gavinmac said:

I missed the fact he tried for a work visa, maybe i wasn't watching closely enough. She couldn't get a tourist visa. She's young, she's attractive, she's poor, owns no property, and doesn't have a steady high paying salaried job. As a model she probably has sporadic work and an itinerant lifestyle and no strong ties to Brazil. Young Brazilian women don't fly to the USA alone as tourists just to visit Disney World.  The embassy would know an American dude was pulling the strings, and she'd be at high risk to attempt to immigrate to the USA overstay and work as a model or as an escort.

For what it's worth "Have you worked as a prostitute in the last ten years?" is a question on the written form for ALL K-1 visa applicants, along with "Do you plan to overthrow the American government?" "Have you ever been a terrorist, etc."  I know this because I helped fill out the form for my Cambodian fiancee now wife.

The applicant checks "No" and usually the consular officer isn't going to ask about prostitution at the interview, but usually the applicant isn't an impoverished hot looking 20 year old with a history of being flown to Croatia for yacht parties.

The police clearance record is also required of all K-1 visa applicants. And you're instructed to submit it before the interview.  So I'm wondering if this police certificate drama is made up by TLC, or if they were just late submitting a routine, required document.

I'm gonna address this heat thing. My wife is from Cambodia. It only dips a bit below 72 degrees in Cambodia a few nights of the year, and all the Cambodians then break out their jackets and wool hats and talk about how cold it is.   

My wife arrived in the USA three months ago, and it has just started to get a bit cold in the part of the USA where we live. She keeps turning the heat up to 78 degrees. I keep turning it down, and she pouts.   

It's very possible that Michael is respectably rich and can and does heat his house properly, and that Brazilian Juliana is turning up the thermostat to batshit crazy tropical heat settings. And then Michael goes into American Dad mode and tells his daughter to stop turning up the heat, it's wasting money.

This reminds me of Minnesota "Snow Birds" who go to AZ or FL in the winter and wrap/bundle up at the slightest dip in temperature!  I hear, and I believe them, that their blood "thins" and they can't take the cold anymore!!  Me?  I like the cold and yes I sleep with my window cracked at 10 degrees.......I sleep better!!!

[AZChristian]

6 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

This reminds me of Minnesota "Snow Birds" who go to AZ or FL in the winter and wrap/bundle up at the slightest dip in temperature!  I hear, and I believe them, that their blood "thins" and they can't take the cold anymore!!  Me?  I like the cold and yes I sleep with my window cracked at 10 degrees.......I sleep better!!!

It's been my observation (30+ years in Arizona) that temperature (in)tolerance is actually demonstrated by the opposite behavior here.  The snowbirds come in, and spend the winters here walking around in shorts, while we "Zonies" are bundled up in jackets and long pants.

It's a running joke when we encounter neighbors out for a morning walk in January.  We've got on sweatshirts and gloves, and they're out in shorts.  The usual greeting is, "Hi!  What part of Minnesota are you from?"

All of these years living in Arizona have definitely made our blood thinner (we're both originally from colder climates), but it's not been my experience that snowbirds share our inability to tolerate cooler temperatures.

[merylinkid]

I wonder if the hold up with Juliana's visa is not prostitution but some discrepancy in her birth certificate.    I wonder if they are lying about her age?   Making her seem legal when, well, she is not.   Although the 45 year old husband/boyfriend/sugar daddy makes that even skeevier.   

[gavinmac]

I'd like to add a comment about Michael giving Juliana access to his credit cards.

After I knew my Cambodian girlfriend for years, including months living there, and after I filed the K-1 petition, I did, in fact, add her as an authorized user on my credit card, and gave her a credit card she could use in Cambodia. Here is why.

Cambodia is a country where if you have a serious medical emergency, hospitals will not treat you until you stump up the cash.  Ambulances will show up to roadside accidents, but then drive off it it looks like you can't pay or if you look injured enough that you might die, because if you die they're probably not getting paid AND then they have to dispose of your body, which costs them money.  

I know another young Cambodian woman whose appendix burst, or was about to, and she needed emergency surgery, and the doctor said "I'm happy to perform the surgery as soon as you pay me $2,000, all up front."  A friend of mine (her Australian boss) ponied up the cash, otherwise she'd be quite dead by now.

Like most Cambodians, my girlfriend was riding around town on a small motorbike/scooter. Accidents are common. Both her parents died in such an accident. I wanted her to have a "safety net" so she could pay for emergency medical treatment in the event of illness or accident. So the options were to send her $2,000 - $3,000 in cash and then hope that she could access that cash after a moto accident and before she would need medical treatment, or just send her a credit card to use in the event of emergencies.

She didn't buy any cars with it. Of course, I didn't meet her on a party yacht in Croatia.

[mamadrama]

Just as I predicted, the whole will she/won't she get the vis was just a manufactured plot line. In the newest episode she magically has it.

For him to he soooo upset about people thinking she is a hooker, he sure does bring it up a lot. In fct, he is the ONLY person bringing it up. The whole "limo porn" comment was diststeful at best.

[Kareem]

1 hour ago, gavinmac said:

I'd like to add a comment about Michael giving Juliana access to his credit cards.

After I knew my Cambodian girlfriend for years, including months living there, and after I filed the K-1 petition, I did, in fact, add her as an authorized user on my credit card, and gave her a credit card she could use in Cambodia. Here is why.

Cambodia is a country where if you have a serious medical emergency, hospitals will not treat you until you stump up the cash.  Ambulances will show up to roadside accidents, but then drive off it it looks like you can't pay or if you look injured enough that you might die, because if you die they're probably not getting paid AND then they have to dispose of your body, which costs them money.  

I know another young Cambodian woman whose appendix burst, or was about to, and she needed emergency surgery, and the doctor said "I'm happy to perform the surgery as soon as you pay me $2,000, all up front."  A friend of mine (her Australian boss) ponied up the cash, otherwise she'd be quite dead by now.

Like most Cambodians, my girlfriend was riding around town on a small motorbike/scooter. Accidents are common. Both her parents died in such an accident. I wanted her to have a "safety net" so she could pay for emergency medical treatment in the event of illness or accident. So the options were to send her $2,000 - $3,000 in cash and then hope that she could access that cash after a moto accident and before she would need medical treatment, or just send her a credit card to use in the event of emergencies.

She didn't buy any cars with it. Of course, I didn't meet her on a party yacht in Croatia.

Not strange that he gave her credit cards, just surprising that he was thinking food and she was thinking car.  

[gavinmac]

1 hour ago, Kareem said:

Not strange that he gave her credit cards, just surprising that he was thinking food and she was thinking car.  

That doesn't surprise me too much. In these sorts of relationships, the young impoverished woman wants something that can be converted to cash. She doesn't really want flowers and candy and expensive meals.  She wants gold, phones, motorbikes, and yes, a car. 

 I know a lot of guys in southeast Asia who dated women of questionable virtue and it's very common that they buy the woman jewelry or a phone or something of value and then she sells it and gives the money to her parents.

She's moving to the USA with this guy, she has no idea if it's going to work out or if she'll end up back in Brazil and penniless in 1-3 years.    So she wanted to buy something in her own name that will stay in Brazil and can be sold at any time to buy food for herself or her family. Think of it as a Brazilian model "bride price."

 

[watchingtvaddict]

6 hours ago, Kareem said:

Not strange that he gave her credit cards, just surprising that he was thinking food and she was thinking car.  

Have we seen the car? Does this car really exist? I'm wondering if this is fiction, too. 

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

Have we seen the car? Does this car really exist? I'm wondering if this is fiction, too. 

Do you think she may be lying about the car or the both of them?  I would have thought his credit card statement would have said something about a dealership charging the money

[watchingtvaddict]

1 minute ago, RealReality said:

Do you think she may be lying about the car or the both of them?  I would have thought his credit card statement would have said something about a dealership charging the money

I don't watch the show too closely but didn't he find out about the car purchase because she called him when the credit card got declined? 

[RealReality]

21 minutes ago, watchingtvaddict said:

I don't watch the show too closely but didn't he find out about the car purchase because she called him when the credit card got declined? 

I thought she had previously purchased the car on his credit card, but he had still let her keep the credit cards and she was calling him about another declined purchase.  

But, like you, it's possible I'm not closely paying attention.

[gavinmac]

2 hours ago, RealReality said:

Do you think she may be lying about the car or the both of them?  I would have thought his credit card statement would have said something about a dealership charging the money

Well, it's a developing country. It's very possible she walked into a car dealership and said "Can you charge this card $5,000 for the purchase of a new car, but instead of giving me a car, just give me $4500 in cash" and they said OK.

I think it's more likely though that she bought a car for her parents to use.

[RealReality]

15 minutes ago, gavinmac said:

Well, it's a developing country. It's very possible she walked into a car dealership and said "Can you charge this card $5,000 for the purchase of a new car, but instead of giving me a car, just give me $4500 in cash" and they said OK.

I think it's more likely though that she bought a car for her parents to use.

I think the same thing, because I would imagine that in a poor, developing country that just HAVING a car opens up new opportunities.  So I could see Julianna buying the car and leaving it for her family to use.   

I can maybe see Julianna lying about purchasing a car by the method you say, but I don't think michael would have lied because he would have seen a charge to his card from something that looked like a dealership.  

I wonder how much she spent on the car?  

[Frozendiva]

Life as a model is short-lived. Hopefully Juliana will get some job skills/education to make her own money and have some sort of a career after the modelling jobs dry up. A couple of former models that I know went to university, and got a bachelor's and master's degree to get a decent job.

[RealReality]

17 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Life as a model is short-lived. Hopefully Juliana will get some job skills/education to make her own money and have some sort of a career after the modelling jobs dry up. A couple of former models that I know went to university, and got a bachelor's and master's degree to get a decent job.

If Michael is invested in the power differential, he may not want Julianna to really have an education or a shot at a career that would allow her to be independent. 

She is what, 23?  I think she is really pretty, so even if she doesn't want to model, I think she has at least another 10 years of being able to find a guy who has a really great career and is a little closer in age.

  I think she is very pretty and she doesn't appear to have any habits that will prematurely age her.  I think that even if she gains weight this will be true.  In fact, it's possible that some guys may find her slightly more attractive if she gains a little weight.  

[Twopper]

On 11/11/2019 at 6:50 PM, RealReality said:

So, I'd be more suspicious about the fit of michaels clothes.  But then again , the fact that he agreed to be on this show makes me question his wealth.  I just don't imagine anyone who is truly moneyed and from Greenwich agreeing to this particular show.  

That was a major red flag for me---especially the fit of the jacket he put on to go to the interview while he let her go looking like, well, that which he claims she is not.   I nearly fell out of the chair when I saw that---my grandfather was a buyer for a men's store and my dad was always well dressed even when he dressed down.  He may have more money than most of the other cast members, but he is just as lacking in class. 

[Teri313]

On 11/11/2019 at 11:14 AM, Elizzikra said:

I didn't think that Larissa's children were removed from her care, but that she voluntarily placed them with relatives because she could not afford to provide for them let them weigh her down.

Fixed that for ya.

[Teri313]

So Michael met Juliana on a yacht in Croatia... I can't help but think back to Below Deck: Mediterranean Season 2 when they were in Croatia and had yacht guest (primary) Jerry and his friend and like five "Julianas" on board. Believe me, those girls were there for one thing and one thing only - to take care of Jerry and his friend.

If Juliana were legit, why didn't she bring her portfolio to the interview with her? If she's connected with a legit modeling agency and gets respectable modeling jobs, why didn't she have any proof of that with her? I'm thinking she is what they suspect she is.

[blubld43]

Juliana actually on a runway: