2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[IHopeUDance]

If VK & the rookie show group members DO NOT go to Oxnard, that’s proof enough for me to take the “insider” info for what’s its worth from now on.  

If they do...I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion it’s favoritism or someone threw a fit.  K&J have proven they make even the hardest decisions based on what’s best for the squad, as they have for the  last 30 years! Many decisions we are not privy too, which has included several other legacies auditioning through the years...some making it, some not. Every decision is difficult and I wouldn’t want her job. Kelli has broken friend’s hearts before, just as she did last year, because she has always put the brand & the entire team first. The DCC wouldn’t be where they are today if she filled it with all her DCC sisters’ daughters who didn’t deserve to be there...by the way, many who are coming up to the age of auditioning...so buckle up and enjoy the show.  It’s not far fetched that talented, beautiful DCCs would have talented, beautiful daughters who have also dreamed of walking in their mama’s boots. If they earn their spot, awesome, if not, I’m sure it’s the right decision either way.    

I personally think Victoria is beautiful, has a fun, bubbly personality that the fans & kids will love, and she’ll represent the DCC well. I wish her and the entire squad an amazing year cheering on our ‘Boys!  

[pinkandsparkly13]

5 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

If VK & the rookie show group members DO NOT go to Oxnard, that’s proof enough for me to take the “insider” info for what’s its worth from now on.  

If they do...I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion it’s favoritism or someone threw a fit.  K&J have proven they make even the hardest decisions based on what’s best for the squad, as they have for the  last 30 years! Many decisions we are not privy too, which has included several other legacies auditioning through the years...some making it, some not. Every decision is difficult and I wouldn’t want her job. Kelli has broken friend’s hearts before, just as she did last year, because she has always put the brand & the entire team first. The DCC wouldn’t be where they are today if she filled it with all her DCC sisters’ daughters who didn’t deserve to be there...by the way, many who are coming up to the age of auditioning...so buckle up and enjoy the show.  It’s not far fetched that talented, beautiful DCCs would have talented, beautiful daughters who have also dreamed of walking in their mama’s boots. If they earn their spot, awesome, if not, I’m sure it’s the right decision either way.    

I personally think Victoria is beautiful, has a fun, bubbly personality that the fans & kids will love, and she’ll represent the DCC well. I wish her and the entire squad an amazing year cheering on our ‘Boys! 

Well they could certainly change their minds about taking the rookies. It's still a couple weeks away. So if they don't then who knows! That could be the case they just changed their minds. Doesn't mean "insiders" are lying or whatever. 

[CrazyMoon]

3 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

The promo video Kelli put on her twitter has VK front and center:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kelli_Finglass/status/1136761684243206145

I saw a single shot of VK in this video (it's looped, so you see it more than once, just like every other single shot in the video. This is how rumors get started....you notice her because you don't like her. She isn't 'front and center' in this video...geez

[IHopeUDance]

1 hour ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Well they could certainly change their minds about taking the rookies. It's still a couple weeks away. So if they don't then who knows! That could be the case they just changed their minds. Doesn't mean "insiders" are lying or whatever. 

If history has proved anything to me, it’s that decisions like that aren’t made lightly by Kelli and she’s never been wishy-washy about an appearance or performance that represents the DCFC.  It’s less than 2 weeks away...flights & hotel arrangements have to be made, formations solidified. I just have no doubt they all know exactly who is going and what role each girl is to have once there.  Rookie SG going or not...they already know.  Maybe the “insiders” are right.  But maybe they’re not. Seems to me that there’s always a bit of vagueness in every bit of “insider” gossip to be able to twist into a narrative if it later reality is different than they had stated. It doesn’t matter to me if they go or stay home, but I do believe the decision has been made. If they are not going, then in my opinion, the “insiders” on this occasion, were just people throwing out speculation.  

Edited July 16, 2019 by IHopeUDance
Clarification

[Pinknblue]

Well... we know who’s on showgroup, and there is precedent for taking rookie members who have not yet “officially” made the team. I remember it from a few seasons back - IIRC, prevailing sentiment seemed to be that it must have been an exception given the quality of the newbies. 

What’s done is done - the SG members have already been chosen - maybe this is VK’s only chance to get out there before she stacks on too much weight? 

Edited July 15, 2019 by Pinknblue
Grammar

[IHopeUDance]

9 minutes ago, CrazyMoon said:

I saw a single shot of VK in this video (it's looped, so you see it more than once, just like every other single shot in the video. This is how rumors get started....you notice her because you don't like her. She isn't 'front and center' in this video...geez

Yes, I agree with this!  Anyone who wants to find something negative to fuel the fire towards someone, they cant see anything else.  

But I’m confused why a few people think VK, Kelli, Judy or even Tina have any say so whatsoever as to what promo footage the CMT producers use for their commercials. We all know they just don’t.

So what it seems is...if they show Victoria at all... it’s “favoritism”....if they don’t show her...they’re “protecting her”! 🤷🏼‍♀️ 

As my kids say “Pick a lane, Dude, pick a lane!”  😂  

As I see it, there is just no way VK can win with some no matter what she does.  But, I just think she’ll have a big fan base and prove the few naysayers wrong. ⭐️🤞🏻

[Pebbles116]

4 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Yes, I agree with this!  Anyone who wants to find something negative to fuel the fire towards someone, they cant see anything else.  

But I’m confused why a few people think VK, Kelli, Judy or even Tina have any say so whatsoever as to what promo footage the CMT producers use for their commercials. We all know they just don’t.

So what it seems is...if they show Victoria at all... it’s “favoritism”....if they don’t show her...they’re “protecting her”! 🤷🏼‍♀️ 

As my kids say “Pick a lane, Dude, pick a lane!”  😂  

As I see it, there is just no way VK can win with some no matter what she does.  But, I just think she’ll have a big fan base and prove the few naysayers wrong. ⭐️🤞🏻

I'm hardly a VK fan but I agree with this 100%.

[Bellisima08]

21 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

I heard someone made a stink about them not taking rookies and also about rookies not getting to be part of the new intro they filmed for the show.

Veruca Kalina: But Mummy, I want to be on the new show intros! You & Auntie Kelli have been telling me I'd be on them my whole life!!!

[TinyHands]

1 hour ago, IHopeUDance said:

If VK & the rookie show group members DO NOT go to Oxnard, that’s proof enough for me to take the “insider” info for what’s its worth from now on.  

If they do...I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion it’s favoritism or someone threw a fit.  K&J have proven they make even the hardest decisions based on what’s best for the squad, as they have for the  last 30 years! Many decisions we are not privy too, which has included several other legacies auditioning through the years...some making it, some not. Every decision is difficult and I wouldn’t want her job. Kelli has broken friend’s hearts before, just as she did last year, because she has always put the brand & the entire team first. The DCC wouldn’t be where they are today if she filled it with all her DCC sisters’ daughters who didn’t deserve to be there...by the way, many who are coming up to the age of auditioning...so buckle up and enjoy the show.  It’s not far fetched that talented, beautiful DCCs would have talented, beautiful daughters who have also dreamed of walking in their mama’s boots. If they earn their spot, awesome, if not, I’m sure it’s the right decision either way.    

I personally think Victoria is beautiful, has a fun, bubbly personality that the fans & kids will love, and she’ll represent the DCC well. I wish her and the entire squad an amazing year cheering on our ‘Boys!  

I definitely wait for the show on a lot of the things that get said here. Everyone swore up and down last year that VK was promised a spot on the squad, and then she was cut. 

[TinyHands]

36 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Yes, I agree with this!  Anyone who wants to find something negative to fuel the fire towards someone, they cant see anything else.  

But I’m confused why a few people think VK, Kelli, Judy or even Tina have any say so whatsoever as to what promo footage the CMT producers use for their commercials. We all know they just don’t.

So what it seems is...if they show Victoria at all... it’s “favoritism”....if they don’t show her...they’re “protecting her”! 🤷🏼‍♀️ 

As my kids say “Pick a lane, Dude, pick a lane!”  😂  

As I see it, there is just no way VK can win with some no matter what she does.  But, I just think she’ll have a big fan base and prove the few naysayers wrong. ⭐️🤞🏻

Totally agree. The only thing I would add is that Kelli and Charlotte are executive producers on the show, so they do have some say. Judy, Tina, and VK... no say so.

[dccfangirl]

Anyone know if/when the podcast is coming back? 

[CruiseGirl]

34 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

I definitely wait for the show on a lot of the things that get said here. Everyone swore up and down last year that VK was promised a spot on the squad, and then she was cut. 

Kelli  had a spot for her last season but VK did and said to many stupid things that K couldn’t defend her anymore. If VK kept her mouth shut she would have coasted into that reserved spot. Now, any other girl who pulled all the crap would never had made TC again and yet VK did. So, while  she will make the squad this year, in my opinion she will not be known as someone who earned those boots but rather someone who got those boots because she had so many personal connections. 

[Jezlyn]

Stumbled across this on Instagram, Jerry Jones grandson John is following Ashley Hancock. I remember someone saying there was a bit of scandal around her early cut and allegedly buying her way onto the team 🤔🤷‍♀️

[M1977G]

Can I just say that the Michelle Keyes dance video posted above really made me miss Hannah West and wish she'd gotten to stay longer and been a point girl? Or Sam Clark! They were in the same rookie class and they were such rockstar dancers. I couldn't take my eyes off Hannah in the video, even though she was on the end.

I really hope we get to see footage from some of these new choreographers this season! And, of course, I want to see Travis Wall's visit and him dancing with the poms and all the ladies. 

IIRC, we've seen them still experimenting with point girls at Oxnard, so yes, it will be a solid indication but not necessarily a sign that point has been decided for the season. So curious about who will be in the final considerations, and I'd absolutely LOVE to see Kelli and Judy discussing point candidates and triangle formation on the show.  

Which rookies made Show Group again? I mean, besides you know who.

[Holly85]

2 minutes ago, M1977G said:

Can I just say that the Michelle Keyes dance video posted above really made me miss Hannah West and wish she'd gotten to stay longer and been a point girl? Or Sam Clark! They were in the same rookie class and they were such rockstar dancers. I couldn't take my eyes off Hannah in the video, even though she was on the end.

I really hope we get to see footage from some of these new choreographers this season! And, of course, I want to see Travis Wall's visit and him dancing with the poms and all the ladies. 

IIRC, we've seen them still experimenting with point girls at Oxnard, so yes, it will be a solid indication but not necessarily a sign that point has been decided for the season. So curious about who will be in the final considerations, and I'd absolutely LOVE to see Kelli and Judy discussing point candidates and triangle formation on the show.  

Which rookies made Show Group again? I mean, besides you know who.

Kelcey and Amanda 

[hannahbanana]

2 hours ago, CrazyMoon said:

I saw a single shot of VK in this video (it's looped, so you see it more than once, just like every other single shot in the video. This is how rumors get started....you notice her because you don't like her. She isn't 'front and center' in this video...geez

No one said she was in the whole video, but this is most definitely front and center:

ETA: She also has a talking head shot in at least one other promo (posted in the 2018 thread). In other words, she doesn't need to complain about not being in the intro, she's in the promos (which probably get shown more).

Edited July 16, 2019 by hannahbanana

[TinyHands]

50 minutes ago, Cruisegirl said:

Kelli  had a spot for her last season but VK did and said to many stupid things that K couldn’t defend her anymore. If VK kept her mouth shut she would have coasted into that reserved spot. Now, any other girl who pulled all the crap would never had made TC again and yet VK did. So, while  she will make the squad this year, in my opinion she will not be known as someone who earned those boots but rather someone who got those boots because she had so many personal connections. 

I would humbly submit that a more logical explanation is that Kelli did not guarantee anyone anything, and when VK was really bad she was cut.

[DCCFanInKy]

4 hours ago, Jennv said:

On the right standing sideways 

I must be blind..I don't see her either..can you repost the photo with her circled? You can PM me if you don't want to post the pic publicly again. Thx

[Holly85]

2 minutes ago, DCCFanInKy said:

I must be blind..I don't see her either..can you repost the photo with her circled? You can PM me if you don't want to post the pic publicly again. Thx

I’ll send it to you 

[Jess14]

2 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

I would humbly submit that a more logical explanation is that Kelli did not guarantee anyone anything, and when VK was really bad she was cut.

I agree that there probably was not a hardline guarantee, and I think some of the rumors stretch reality. However, there didn't need to be a hidden contract between VK and Kelli for there to be clear favoritism. Other girls don't have to be really bad to be cut. Gaining as much weight as she did, while also being one of the weaker dancers in the room, would have gotten anyone else cut early in the summer. Spurning the help from a DCC employee would have gotten anyone else cut. Imagine if Courtney had of blown off My Fit Foods when she was a tcc. She would've been gone. Complaining that you had a bad night because you wanted to make show group when you're not even on the team yet would have resulted in anyone else being dressed down. Look at how Angela was treated when she had a bad night after not making show group, and she was a 5th year! And yet, VK didn't actually get cut for those things. They still kept her til the bitter end even with all of this occurring and were perfectly nice while cutting her. 

Ultimately, I don't think there is a need for all of the conspiracy theories. I don't buy that Tina and VK are secretly running the show, but it's clear that VK, whether she ultimately made it or not, was held to a completely different standard than anyone else. That's a problem in its own right. 

[IHopeUDance]

44 minutes ago, Cruisegirl said:

Kelli  had a spot for her last season but VK did and said to many stupid things that K couldn’t defend her anymore. If VK kept her mouth shut she would have coasted into that reserved spot. Now, any other girl who pulled all the crap would never had made TC again and yet VK did. So, while  she will make the squad this year, in my opinion she will not be known as someone who earned those boots but rather someone who got those boots because she had so many personal connections. 

I agree VK said some immature things ex: quail is seafood, etc., 🤦🏼‍♀️ but what “crap” did VK actually pull?  From what I remember it came out that it was just the typical “insider” talk here that fueled it but real insiders debunked it.  So, just curious ...

[hannahbanana]

26 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

I agree VK said some immature things ex: quail is seafood, etc., 🤦🏼‍♀️ but what “crap” did VK actually pull?  From what I remember it came out that it was just the typical “insider” talk here that fueled it but real insiders debunked it.  So, just curious ...

Calling quail seafood is not immaturity, it's ignorance. There was nothing debunked except maybe the "guaranteed spot" rumour (and it was plain to see why Kelli finally reneged on it, if it was, in fact, ever made). Some claims were hinted at (i.e., the problems with Jinelle) while others (i.e., claiming a thyroid condition) were never addressed on the show, but there was no "proof" "insiders" were wrong either. 

Edited July 16, 2019 by hannahbanana

[TinyHands]

30 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

I agree that there probably was not a hardline guarantee, and I think some of the rumors stretch reality. However, there didn't need to be a hidden contract between VK and Kelli for there to be clear favoritism. Other girls don't have to be really bad to be cut. Gaining as much weight as she did, while also being one of the weaker dancers in the room, would have gotten anyone else cut early in the summer. Spurning the help from a DCC employee would have gotten anyone else cut. Imagine if Courtney had of blown off My Fit Foods when she was a tcc. She would've been gone. Complaining that you had a bad night because you wanted to make show group when you're not even on the team yet would have resulted in anyone else being dressed down. Look at how Angela was treated when she had a bad night after not making show group, and she was a 5th year! And yet, VK didn't actually get cut for those things. They still kept her til the bitter end even with all of this occurring and were perfectly nice while cutting her. 

Ultimately, I don't think there is a need for all of the conspiracy theories. I don't buy that Tina and VK are secretly running the show, but it's clear that VK, whether she ultimately made it or not, was held to a completely different standard than anyone else. That's a problem in its own right. 

I love this comment, because I feel like it’s refreshingly honest and not full of conspiracy theories. Thank you!!!

What I would say is that while Victoria definitely got some general favoritism, there have been lots of girls who Kelli has shown favoritism to. Kaitlyn LaRae is the example that comes to mind. Kelli explicitly said “don’t go tanning”  before cameos, and Kaitlyn ignored her and went anyway. And then she gained weight, albeit not as much as VK. Kelli (and Kitty and Judy) all have favorites, and it’s not necessarily based on being someone’s daughter. If being close friends and cheering with Kelli got you on the squad, both Dayton and VK would have been on the squad least year.

Edited July 16, 2019 by TinyHands

[Loves2Dance]

4 hours ago, IHopeUDance said:

If history has proved anything to me, it’s that decisions like that aren’t made lightly by Kelli and she’s never been wishy-washy about an appearance or performance that represents the DCFC.  It’s less than 2 weeks away...flights & hotel arrangements have to be made, formations solidified. I just have no doubt they all know exactly who is going and what role each girl is to have once there.  Rookie SG going or not...they already know.  Maybe the “insiders” are right.  But maybe they’re not. Seems to me that there’s always a bit of vagueness in every bit of “insider” gossip to be able to twist into a narrative if it later reality is different than they had stated. It doesn’t matter to me if they go or stay home, but I do believe the decision has been made. If they are not going, then in my opinion, the “insiders” on this occasion, were just people throwing out speculation.  

I can only speak for myself and the sources I have, but being vague is to protect their identities. If I wrote out every single detail I had been told from this training camp, I have no doubts the powers that be could track it down to individual sources. Not all insider information is 100% accurate; in fact, I've had 2 sources tell me completely different accounts of one individual in TTC (not Vikkie for this example) but when you dig into a 3rd source and a 4th source, eventually one side becomes the more dominant theme and generally that is the correct one.

Last summer, we had a handful of sources come on and tell us the same info over and over again and for 99.9%, the show proved it right. I do wonder if they plan on more creative editing this year because last season, Kelli came off as uneven, weak and blind. Even casual watchers were coming to the same conclusion if you watched the comments on the various platforms. I originally suspected they would hide her a bit, but sadly, they're doing the exact opposite. It'll be interesting to see how much they show and how edited it is. 

[Squeek]

2 hours ago, DCCFanInKy said:

I must be blind..I don't see her either..can you repost the photo with her circled? You can PM me if you don't want to post the pic publicly again. Thx

@DCCFanInKy

Edited July 16, 2019 by Squeek

[CrazyMoon]

I totally agree Kelli, Judy & Kitty all have favorites...one that stands out is Brianna from New Jersey who should have been cut the first week...She was beautiful, graceful and very young...and she had no power. Every single night she appeared soft. Yet she was Kelli's favorite of the rookies and just couldn't cut her until there was no other choice. 

They've all know Victoria her entire life. I can see why there would be some favoritism. That said, VK will still have to maintain the standard of DCC...meaning she keeps her weight in check, demonstrates some maturity in interviews/media training and doesn't create toxicity...Kelli may love her, but won't put up with anything that compromises field integrity.

[TinyHands]

4 minutes ago, CrazyMoon said:

I totally agree Kelli, Judy & Kitty all have favorites...one that stands out is Brianna from New Jersey who should have been cut the first week...She was beautiful, graceful and very young...and she had no power. Every single night she appeared soft. Yet she was Kelli's favorite of the rookies and just couldn't cut her until there was no other choice. 

They've all know Victoria her entire life. I can see why there would be some favoritism. That said, VK will still have to maintain the standard of DCC...meaning she keeps her weight in check, demonstrates some maturity in interviews/media training and doesn't create toxicity...Kelli may love her, but won't put up with anything that compromises field integrity.

YES! I thought the same thing about Brianna.

[EricaShadows]

2 hours ago, IHopeUDance said:

I agree VK said some immature things ex: quail is seafood, etc., 🤦🏼‍♀️ but what “crap” did VK actually pull?  From what I remember it came out that it was just the typical “insider” talk here that fueled it but real insiders debunked it.  So, just curious ...

Numerous people said the same things or close enough to make no nevermind.  Granted, gaining weight is not pulling "crap" but, if she's been involved with DCC as long as Kitty and Kelli said, then she should know the standards and adhere to them, which she did not.  She lied to Kelli, and possibly others, about going to the doctor, which was hinted at when she was called into the office around week 7 or so.  Kelli states "something happened prior to rehearsal between Jinelle and Victoria.  Jinelle volunteered her time to help Victoria with nutrition and I'm not accusing anybody of dishonesty but there is something not adding up and I want to explore that."  Lying to a potential employer about something as big as, say a Doctor's appointment when it directly relates to one's job and the performance thereof, would get most people cut right then, but Victoria was allowed to stay.  Granted there was some talk about what type of doctor she was supposed to go see, but Victoria still lied about it (and Jinelle evidently had texts to prove that) and tried to talk her way out of the situation until she just couldn't any more.  While we didn't see EVERYTHING the "insiders" alleged, we saw enough on the show that proved them right far more than we saw anything that proved them wrong.  In fact, if we go by what Kelli/Judy/Shelly/Charlotte/Kitty have said (as well as many others), things were left OUT so there was likely FAR more that would have bolster the insiders' stories than would have proven them wrong.

2 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Calling quail seafood is not immaturity, it's ignorance. There was nothing debunked except maybe the "guaranteed spot" rumour (and it was plain to see why Kelli finally reneged on it, if it was, in fact, ever made). Some claims were hinted at (i.e., the problems with Jinelle) while others (i.e., claiming a thyroid condition) were never addressed on the show, but there was no "proof" "insiders" were wrong either. 

See above why I think the insiders were proven right by what was shown (and in fact by what WASN'T shown) rather then why they are wrong.  The only thing that could conceivably be seen as unproven was Victoria being "promised" a spot but that could be inferred by Kelli's actions to a degree.  Still, she showed a lesser version of that favoritism towards Brianna a few seasons ago and a few others.  However, it's NOTHING compared to what's been shown towards Victoria.

[PollyHowell]

This is complete speculation, but I think TCC Madeline will be one of the last cuts. I haven't seen much of her dancing, so I can't say much by way of that, but she comes across as young and soft-spoken. I can see Kelli doing it as a way to prove to herself that she's still hardlining and willing to cut legacies.

[viccib]

okay, so hypothetically (and I so know this won't happen...lol), but what if when the team is announced, and VK is one of them, all the vets and new rookies (except VK obviously) go to K&J and retire on the spot?? what happens then? just me being curious....

[parrotfeathers]

1 hour ago, viccib said:

okay, so hypothetically (and I so know this won't happen...lol), but what if when the team is announced, and VK is one of them, all the vets and new rookies (except VK obviously) go to K&J and retire on the spot?? what happens then? just me being curious....

Every one of these girls want to be a DCC, probably more than anything else at this point in their lives.  Kitty could join the team and be point and no one would resign.  And I have nothing against Kitty--she just also seems to be the bad seed this year on the forum.

[Kayce]

10 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

No one said she was in the whole video, but this is most definitely front and center:

ETA: She also has a talking head shot in at least one other promo (posted in the 2018 thread). In other words, she doesn't need to complain about not being in the intro, she's in the promos (which probably get shown more).

With a kick like that, I would put her up front as well.  I have said it before, I'm team Victoria.  I have had the opportunity to chat with her on IG a few times now.  She always responds to me, is very humble and grateful for the opportunities she has, and seems quite delightful.  I can't say that I've gotten that type of response from some of the "faves" I've sent well wishes to in the past.  Each person has his/her own favorite in this group of rookies.  Victoria was one of my faves last year, she's a fave this year...so was Dayton both years she auditioned...and then there is the triple B trifecta...Brennan, Briana, and Bridget...I love this group!  

[dreamcatcher]

5 minutes ago, Kayce said:

With a kick like that, I would put her up front as well.  I have said it before, I'm team Victoria.  I have had the opportunity to chat with her on IG a few times now.  She always responds to me, is very humble and grateful for the opportunities she has, and seems quite delightful.  I can't say that I've gotten that type of response from some of the "faves" I've sent well wishes to in the past.  Each person has his/her own favorite in this group of rookies.  Victoria was one of my faves last year, she's a fave this year...so was Dayton both years she auditioned...and then there is the triple B trifecta...Brennan, Briana, and Bridget...I love this group!  

I understand that this is important to you, but I personally don’t think girls have to respond or start conversations with fans on their social media and especially their IG. This is their private/personal account. I don’t think responding/not responding to messages makes you good or bad.

[Kayce]

6 hours ago, PollyHowell said:

This is complete speculation, but I think TCC Madeline will be one of the last cuts. I haven't seen much of her dancing, so I can't say much by way of that, but she comes across as young and soft-spoken. I can see Kelli doing it as a way to prove to herself that she's still hardlining and willing to cut legacies.

I've seen a "professional audition video" on her page, and I just don't see her being able to get the DCC style this year.  She's like Erin was her first year, too soft/fluid.  I feel like she will be cut this year, encouraged to take DCC prep classes and try again next year.  I think Lisa, Shaina, Madeline and Meredith will be cut.  Shaina (from what little I've seen) is like Madeline...beautiful kicks, but soft on style.  I've put asterisks on the ones I predict will be cut.  (BUT that being said....I've been wrong MANY times on cut predictions lol!!) That being said, if Kristin is cut, then I think Shaina will make it. 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Kayce

[Kayce]

10 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

I understand that this is important to you, but I personally don’t think girls have to respond or start conversations with fans on their social media and especially their IG. This is their private/personal account. I don’t think responding/not responding to messages makes you good or bad.

It's not that it's "important" to me that they respond...but it gives me a little more of a "feel" for the person.  I've been involved in the dance world since I was 6 years old (and I'm 50 now) as a dancer, choreographer, team sponsor/advisor and college dance team coach and now as a supporter to my nieces who dance ...so I reach out to a lot of dancers.  I didn't say it made them good or bad...it doesn't.  But what it does say, to me,  is that a 19 year old can take the time to respond...which to me says something.   I don't expect responses, but I'm always pleased when I get one.  I've been in some very nice conversations with people all over this world.  So I will continue to reach out to people.

Edited July 16, 2019 by Kayce

[dreamcatcher]

4 minutes ago, Kayce said:

It gives me a little more of a "feel" for the person.  I've been involved in the dance world since I was 6 years old as a dancer, choreographer, team sponsor/advisor and college dance team coach (and I'm 50 now) and now as a supporter to my nieces who dance ...so I reach out to a lot of dancers.  I didn't say it made them good or bad...it doesn't.  But what it does say is that a 19 year old can take the time to respond...which to me says something.   I don't expect responses, but I'm always pleased when I get one.  I've been in some very nice conversations with people all over this world.  So I will continue to reach out to people.

As you should! I’m just saying, a teenager responding to social media is common and normal for their age. Not everyone is comfortable with that-I know I’m not. I’m just not willing to give her a pass considering that we have proof of her lying and treating a former dcc, current (at the time) dcc employee badly for responding to messages on ig. If anything, getting attention seems to be her goal.

Unrelated, but have you come across any clips of Shaina dancing? I can’t find many in her ig and I’m really drawn to her for some reason.

[Kayce]

10 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

As you should! I’m just saying, a teenager responding to social media is common and normal for their age. Not everyone is comfortable with that-I know I’m not. I’m just not willing to give her a pass considering that we have proof of her lying and treating a former dcc, current (at the time) dcc employee badly for responding to messages on ig. If anything, getting attention seems to be her goal.

Unrelated, but have you come across any clips of Shaina dancing? I can’t find many in her ig and I’m really drawn to her for some reason.

And I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently than you do 🙂 I truly respect what you always have to say.  There are times people just have to agree that we are all different.  

RE: Shaina...Same here, just what little I've seen on her IG ...I like her as well,  and I hate what she's going through with the loss of her friends.  I'm amazed that she can stay so focused.  

[CruiseGirl]

10 hours ago, IHopeUDance said:

I agree VK said some immature things ex: quail is seafood, etc., 🤦🏼‍♀️ but what “crap” did VK actually pull?  From what I remember it came out that it was just the typical “insider” talk here that fueled it but real insiders debunked it.  So, just curious ...

She gained 10 pounds even though she knew this could send her packing, she was disrespectful to a staff member,(  that alone would have sent any girl home immediately and would never be invited back) , her media training was a fiasco with “ I have no words” , she dressed inappropriately at the etiquette luncheon, she lied about why she was gaining weight, sh whined about not making show group ( imo, any other girl would have be sent packing right there) Being that she grew up in the DCC environment, she should have been better prepared.  This was all shown on TV so not relying on gossip or insider talk. 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Cruisegirl

[SmpIsimon]

13 hours ago, IHopeUDance said:

 Seems to me that there’s always a bit of vagueness in every bit of “insider” gossip to be able to twist into a narrative if it later reality is different than they had stated.

I'm the one who posted that VK made SG and that Jalyn was the only returning member who did not.  What's vague about that?

[Kayce]

3 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

I'm the one who posted that VK made SG and that Jalyn was the only returning member who did not.  What's vague about that?

I appreciate the information you've shared🙂 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Kayce

[suebee18]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the “front and center” comment was related to the picture from training camp (where she’s directly behind the choreographer). I don’t think the comment was alluding to the video.

[Pebbles116]

11 hours ago, Jess14 said:

I agree that there probably was not a hardline guarantee, and I think some of the rumors stretch reality. However, there didn't need to be a hidden contract between VK and Kelli for there to be clear favoritism. Other girls don't have to be really bad to be cut. Gaining as much weight as she did, while also being one of the weaker dancers in the room, would have gotten anyone else cut early in the summer. Spurning the help from a DCC employee would have gotten anyone else cut. Imagine if Courtney had of blown off My Fit Foods when she was a tcc. She would've been gone. Complaining that you had a bad night because you wanted to make show group when you're not even on the team yet would have resulted in anyone else being dressed down. Look at how Angela was treated when she had a bad night after not making show group, and she was a 5th year! And yet, VK didn't actually get cut for those things. They still kept her til the bitter end even with all of this occurring and were perfectly nice while cutting her. 

Ultimately, I don't think there is a need for all of the conspiracy theories. I don't buy that Tina and VK are secretly running the show, but it's clear that VK, whether she ultimately made it or not, was held to a completely different standard than anyone else. That's a problem in its own right. 

THIS! I fully believe nepotism and favoritism are at play with VK but I’m not buying all this talk of VK being powerful and controlling enough to significantly impact Kelli’s decisions this year. 

[EricaShadows]

32 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

I'm the one who posted that VK made SG and that Jalyn was the only returning member who did not.  What's vague about that?

You also posted it BEFORE Shelly B came and confirmed who was on Show Group.  Her information proved what you told us was right.  In addition, Show Group will be revealed on the show (and at Oxnard) and if they DON'T show Victoria being called up, I'll be surprised.

Edited July 16, 2019 by EricaShadows

[ShellyB]

On 7/14/2019 at 9:12 PM, DCCFanInKy said:

@ShellyB can you say if Rookie Show Group members are going to Oxnard this year (or any year) to stop the rumors please?

Typically, Rookies do not attend Oxnard. There have been some years when there has been a Rookie or two on the trip. Technically they are in TC mode and there are more than enough Vets to choose from. 

[Pink-n-Green]

Did Holly P make Showgroup her rookie year?

[WinkyFace]

2 hours ago, Kayce said:

I've seen a "professional audition video" on her page, and I just don't see her being able to get the DCC style this year.  She's like Erin was her first year, too soft/fluid.  I feel like she will be cut this year, encouraged to take DCC prep classes and try again next year.  I think Lisa, Shaina, Madeline and Meredith will be cut.  Shaina (from what little I've seen) is like Madeline...beautiful kicks, but soft on style.  I've put asterisks on the ones I predict will be cut.  (BUT that being said....I've been wrong MANY times on cut predictions lol!!) That being said, if Kristin is cut, then I think Shaina will make it. 

I’m probably reading way too much into it, but whenever anyone vaguebooks (vaguegrams??) like this, it makes me wonder if they already got cut: 

[Jennv]

22 minutes ago, WinkyFace said:

I’m probably reading way too much into it, but whenever anyone vaguebooks (vaguegrams??) like this, it makes me wonder if they already got cut: 

I saw this and thought the same thing

totally off topic, but the shadow in the pic makes it look like she had hairy man pits

Edited July 16, 2019 by Jennv

[Kayce]

1 hour ago, Pink-n-Green said:

Did Holly P make Showgroup her rookie year?

She did 🙂 

41 minutes ago, WinkyFace said:

I’m probably reading way too much into it, but whenever anyone vaguebooks (vaguegrams??) like this, it makes me wonder if they already got cut: 

Had not seen this yet...that does make one wonder.

[raindancer]

16 minutes ago, Kayce said:

Had not seen this yet...that does make one wonder.

I'll be sad for her if this is so, but it definitely makes me think that's a real possibility.  I know that has to be so hard when you've fought it out so hard before and made it so far, and not make it through again (if that's the case).  I hope she (and all the other TCCs) have some comfort with friends from both last year and this year (especially Shaina, with the loss of her sorority sisters).

Would love to know more about the team dynamics this way with the new rookies (and vets too, for that matter)....who's making friends, what their individual personalities are like, etc.  Is there anyone in particular that is a real sweetheart we can root for?  Hint, hint, insiders 😉

[SanDiegoGal]

My apologies in advance because I know this has been posted before, but it's so far deep in the thread that I can't find it... Can someone please bump-up the full list of who made SG? I can't remember the full list. My brain is foggy. This never happened to me in my 20's or 30's btw. 🙂