S04.E03:. Donde Esta Margarita

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, Marley said:

Kary was being a b when she asked Leanne about having kids. She was trying to throw a subtle jab. Like Leanne is 50 the ship has sailed who cares. D’andra doesn’t have kids either why wasn’t she asking h

I think it was a rude question to ask out of the blue but it is something that does come up with friends so she might already know D’andra’s answer.

[IKnowRight]

13 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

I am so tired of Brandi’s Chucky doll.

I would send the camera people home.....then slap the shit out of her smart mouth.

Yea...yea...yea....Call CPS on me! 🥳

I also want to slap Brandi.  She thinks her Chucky doll is so cute.  But, she is evil.

Teresa’s Milania was a little terror......but, she was also loving and funny.  

Hilarious Dance4Life! 

Chucky doll!  That’s a perfect description!  😂😎

[FancyNancy]

25 minutes ago, amarante said:

What difference does it make when you send a text or an email. That's the great thing about texts and emails that you can send them whenever because the recipient is going to pick it up when they are picking up their messages or email.

And what kind of crazy sensibilities are there that make it risqué to send a text regarding a business meeting to a man - any man or person. How is it different if the message was sent at 9 AM.

Anyway the point is that it is not reasonable BUSINESS behavior to cancel an 8 AM meeting at 1:30 because the other person will have set aside that time for the meeting. If there is a true emergency, there is nothing to do but cancel on short notice knowing the other person will essentially be left high and dry. However, no serious business person cancels ANY meeting however the notice because their hair isn't "right". At any event, the issue was that she was TIRED because of how long it had taken the hair color to be done correctly. And no serious business ever admits that they can't be available for business on limited sleep.

On the subject of hair, I know that hair preferences in Dallas differ from most other places but I am finding the extreme hair length of D'Andrea and Leanne to be beyond ridiculous. If you ain't Crystal Gayle don't get below waist extensions. Even Kyle from Beverly Hills cut her hair to a normal "long" length and I think that Kyle's hair was actually her own hair. FWIW, I am NOT jealous as I have been blessed by thick hair which will grow down to my knees if I wanted it to. 😀

I think I said “I wouldn’t feel comfortable,” you’re certainly welcome to do you by all means lol. I agree that she should’ve contacted him and she was wrong and unprofessional. 

[Andi27]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I do call BS on that timeline, I bet that this was not her first visit to that designer, it had been arranged for TV since she did a lot of wedding planning when they were not filming, her dress had been designed, fitted and paid for previously...we are dealing with Bravo you know.  Producers probably made the knock off Kevin Lee go in and ask the designer to give some financial consideration to LeeAnn for the dress.  Same with the florist and any other vendor LeeAnn had already booked.

Besides what designer would be so blasé about having to make a wedding dress in such a short time frame unless you are Sondra Celli, 'cause then you could just make a phone call describing what you want, no measurements needed or even a date when you need it. LOL!

If this is the case, and I were Leanne and the Kevin Lee knock off, I would be pissed off at the producers about how it went down. The whole story line is that Leanne is such a good and generous person that these vendors are throwing their wares at her feet in gratitude.

In this instance, they had to basically shame this designer on camera in order to get the free dress. If the designer had instead framed it as "this is a $9,000 dress, but because you are an angel sent from God, Leanne, I'm giving it to you," that would fit in the story line. Instead, when Leanne shied away from the retail price, the designer offered a discount, then the awkward shaming started.

[MaggieG]

5 hours ago, Sage47 said:

Leanne is so deranged. “Yea, and maybe I’ll commit suicide tonight”.... Um. 

Of COURSE I feel for her about her ungodly upbringing. Horrible! But threatening suicide casually like that? Get a grip lady. Maybe you don’t belong on reality TV. 

 And of course, throwing out “her story” for the nine millionth time to get sympathy. She is an attention-seeking nutjob. 

I am honestly asking this question: how has Rich stuck with her this long-and now married her?! She seems utterly exhausting. She is unbalanced and has serious anger issues. I’m sure if he ever even mentioned breaking up she would be threatening suicide in two seconds flat. Poor guy. 

Honestly, this made me more uncomfortable than anything else. Why would you say that while you're at someone else's vacation home? If someone said that to me, while we were on vacation in my home, I would be concerned. My inner Heather Dubrow would come out "Should we call an ambulance?"

Leanne is super defensive about her past and she does throw it out to stop people from calling her out. Her tone when she talks about it is very angry, like she is daring someone to say something about it. I do sympathize with what she has been through. 

I don't have a problem sharing a bed with a good friend. I have taken a few girls trips in the past and since we aren't as rich as these ladies, we do share hotel rooms and a bed. But I understand how not everyone is comfortable with that. Leanne could have easily told Kary she wasn't and would prefer having her own room. Instead she kept yelling about how many rooms there were and than laid on the bed in Stephanie and Kameron's room like she would take that one. And then said she preferred a helicopter to get there. 

I did laugh when Rich told her to take the stupid light things out of her hair.

[RealHousewife]

I wonder if LeeAnne would have been more comfortable sharing a bed with someone who was actually a good friend and not essentially a new coworker.

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, amarante said:

What difference does it make when you send a text or an email. That's the great thing about texts and emails that you can send them whenever because the recipient is going to pick it up when they are picking up their messages or email.

I would be pretty angry if someone texted me at 1:30am, and it wasn't an emergency, since my phone is next to my bed and it would wake me up!

1 hour ago, Sarah Heart said:

I loved ( loved!!!)  the house,definitely worth the trip. Ungrateful bitches complaining, many toilets in Mexico are like the one they stopped at.

Many toilets at gas stations in the US are like the one they stopped at - that doesn't make it any less gross!

[Sage47]

1 hour ago, MaggieG said:

Honestly, this made me more uncomfortable than anything else. Why would you say that while you're at someone else's vacation home? If someone said that to me, while we were on vacation in my home, I would be concerned. My inner Heather Dubrow would come out "Should we call an ambulance?"

Leanne is super defensive about her past and she does throw it out to stop people from calling her out. Her tone when she talks about it is very angry, like she is daring someone to say something about it. I do sympathize with what she has been through. 

I could not believe she actually went there when they all had just flown to Mexico and drove two hours to this luxurious vacation home. They were there for R & R but of COURSE Histronic Leanne has to say “if given the chance” she might try suicide that night.  If I were Kary, I would have asked production to escort Leanne off her property and to a hospital for an evaluation ASAP after that remark. Leanne needs to get off TV. 

[RealHousewife]

11 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I would be pretty angry if someone texted me at 1:30am, and it wasn't an emergency, since my phone is next to my bed and it would wake me up!

I keep my phone on silent during bedtime, and so do a lot of my family and friends. But unless I know for a fact you’re like me, I try not to call or text people past 9ish (and even earlier for a few folks I know who go to sleep earlier). 

[OnceSane]

2 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I try not to call or text people past 9ish (and even earlier for a few folks I know who go to sleep earlier). 

I keep the same rule my mom has: if you call after 10pm, someone better be dead, severely bleeding or on fire.

[bichonblitz]

I can not stand LeeAnn but Kary was rude to ask her in front of a table of people why she doesn't have children. Did she ask D'Andra the same question? As a person that does not have kids I would have been really pissed if someone asked me that. Ask in private if your nosy ass must know. Money just does not buy class, I don't give a rip how big and beautiful your Mexican house with the knockout views is!

Having said all that, why must LeeAnn be such a downer? People aren't always attacking you, carny girl. Find a better therapist. There must be something severely lacking in Rich to stay with this woman much less want to marry her. And yeah, I do believe he cheats. 

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, Andi27 said:

If this is the case, and I were Leanne and the Kevin Lee knock off, I would be pissed off at the producers about how it went down. The whole story line is that Leanne is such a good and generous person that these vendors are throwing their wares at her feet in gratitude.

I really think LeeAnne gets off on this kind of behavior and thinks its cool/cute but to me she is an entitled grifter.

Edited September 19, 2019 by biakbiak

[Mondrianyone]

5 hours ago, IKnowRight said:

Chucky doll!  That’s a perfect description!  

And perfect timing, too!

[yourmomiseasy]

10 hours ago, iloveit said:

I hope Stephanie is seeing a real therapist and not just the life coach.  As far as life coaches who appear on Bravo shows, this life coach wasn't bad but I would think Stephanie needs more than a life coach to deal with her depression and anxiety (and I would guess that she does have additional help from a doctor). 

There's at least one person with a medical license involved as she mentioned medication and a life coach cannot prescribe antidepressants.  

Leeanne was aggressive all day and capped it off by wielding her history and threat of suicide as a weapon.  If I recall correctly, this is not new behavior for her and there are police reports from her using suicide threats this way in the past.  

That dinner looked fabulous.  It was all things I love.  Mole pablano and it looked like they had calabacitas as a side and a salad with beets.  It's like she took a list of my favorites.  Of course Leeanne was a pill during it and said she wouldn't be eating the salad because she didn't want to puke.

[AuntiePam]

7 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

That sounds like a good doc, where did you see it?

It had been on PBS sometime over the past couple weeks, part of the POV documentary series.  I had it on the DVR.  The title was "Farmsteaders".  I don't know if it's streaming anywhere, or if PBS has it on-demand. 

[ShawnaLanne]

15 hours ago, FancyNancy said:

Girl!!! Lil’ Chucky would’ve been caught these hands. Her mouth is too slick. 

I would not have cared about the cameras. She would have been told speaking to me like that wasn't acceptable and sent to her room. Kicking and screaming if needed. I don't believe in spanking, but lil' Chucky needs a pop in the mouth.

[ShawnaLanne]

4 hours ago, Sage47 said:

I could not believe she actually went there when they all had just flown to Mexico and drove two hours to this luxurious vacation home. They were there for R & R but of COURSE Histronic Leanne has to say “if given the chance” she might try suicide that night.  If I were Kary, I would have asked production to escort Leanne off her property and to a hospital for an evaluation ASAP after that remark. Leanne needs to get off TV. 

For real. She want's to ramp it up to both deflect and get attention? I would have ramped  it to 1000 and got a 5150 hold  for the b. Or whatever the equivalent in Mexico is.

[Anonysaurus]

Leeanne is just straight trash. She was being so negative and nasty about EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I'm glad Kary called her out for it. She deserved it. And then she tried to turn it around and day she was attacked. Bullshit. If I am a host, I might have certain reasons for pairing people up and having them stay in the same room. It is my house. I can make the damn rules. I don't think any of the other women really relishing sleeping in the same rooms, but no one else was a total bitch about it. If I had been Kary, and my guest straight up said no, I'm not doing this, I'll sleep in a room by myself, I would have said here is a brochure, get yourself a hotel room. So terrible for her to basically make a mockery of suicide in front of D'Andra, whose father or stepfather committed suicide, and in front of Stephanie who had a suicide attempt, I know this is a tv show, but HOW do any of these women put up with her? I honestly think that that is the real Leeanne. The next episode she'll be crying again about how mean people are while treating other people as absolute shit.

I am in the minority that likes D'Andra. That was so unprofessional of her to text Stephanie to tell her husband that she was canceling their meeting. Lol. That makes no sense!! Her hair did look pretty bad in that next scene and kind of made me laugh. Glad that Jeremy called her on her shit and said just apologize with no excuses because no one is going to understand. 

Kameron kind of gets on my nerves but I had some good laughs. "I would eat a cupcake and say WEIGH ME." Voted most likely to get lost in an airport. The look on her face seeing that toilet. Lol. 

I think Brandi must have really not felt well. I didn't think she was drinking that much, and I feel like the other women also made a comment that she hadn't been drinking much, and when she left the table, it seemed like she was coming back. So maybe she went to the bathroom, didn't feel good, laid down for a minute and then was just out. 

[heatherchandler]

4 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I keep my phone on silent during bedtime, and so do a lot of my family and friends. But unless I know for a fact you’re like me, I try not to call or text people past 9ish (and even earlier for a few folks I know who go to sleep earlier). 

I keep my phone on just in case there is an emergency.  I always think the one time I turn off the ringer there will be someone who needs me at 2am!  

I think 9pm is a good cutoff for social calls.

26 minutes ago, Anonysaurus said:

Leeanne is just straight trash. She was being so negative and nasty about EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I'm glad Kary called her out for it. She deserved it. And then she tried to turn it around and day she was attacked. Bullshit. If I am a host, I might have certain reasons for pairing people up and having them stay in the same room. It is my house. I can make the damn rules. I don't think any of the other women really relishing sleeping in the same rooms, but no one else was a total bitch about it. If I had been Kary, and my guest straight up said no, I'm not doing this, I'll sleep in a room by myself, I would have said here is a brochure, get yourself a hotel room. So terrible for her to basically make a mockery of suicide in front of D'Andra, whose father or stepfather committed suicide, and in front of Stephanie who had a suicide attempt, I know this is a tv show, but HOW do any of these women put up with her? I honestly think that that is the real Leeanne. The next episode she'll be crying again about how mean people are while treating other people as absolute shit.

The thing is - the other ladies know each other.. Leanne doesn't know Kary.  Would you want to sleep in a bed with someone you don't know??  I would not.  And the first rule of hostessing is - make your guests feel comfortable.  I think Kary is in the wrong.

[princelina]

1 hour ago, Anonysaurus said:

 If I had been Kary, and my guest straight up said no, I'm not doing this, I'll sleep in a room by myself, I would have said here is a brochure, get yourself a hotel room.

And that would have been an appropriate response.  Kary chose, instead, to say, "So, Leanne, you never wanted children?"  Fuck her.

[ShawnaLanne]

I've been thinking about Lil' Chuckie, one thing a child does not  do to a Southern woman is embarrass them in public. Ever. I feel bad for the kid, she has no boundaries, that attitude is clearly learned behavior, and not trying to be mean, but she looks like her dad. Brandi and her husband are failing that child.

[FancyNancy]

2 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I would not have cared about the cameras. She would have been told speaking to me like that wasn't acceptable and sent to her room. Kicking and screaming if needed. I don't believe in spanking, but lil' Chucky needs a pop in the mouth.

Sometimes making them teeth shake will bring out a whole new person. 

[Irritable]

Most of the problems between LeeAnne and Kary could have been avoided if LeeAnne just worked on better delivery.  All of the women were unhappy with how long the drive was from the airport - it almost seemed like Kary had not properly warned them how tough that part of the voyage would be.  All of the women were unhappy having to use that filthy restroom with no toilet seat OR DOOR.  But there are ways to say things about such moments without sounding like you're just being a complainey bitch.  

Like LeeAnne, I would not want to room with Kary.  For one thing, sometimes I snore, and don't really want someone else to have to deal with that.  And if the person I was supposed to share a bed with wasn't one of my very best friends?  Then I would honestly prefer to sleep on a sofa out in a common area.  But if there was a whole empty room available, yeah, I would have found a way to politely ask for it, and if being polite didn't work I would lean in hard on my snoring problem and maybe throw in a flatulence disorder as well as night terrors, just to stack the deck in my favor.

More than 200 stairs down to the ocean, and then you have to climb them all the way back up?  Oh, no thank you.  I would much rather enjoy the views from the (amazing, spectacular) house, thanks.  I wouldn't be going on that bridge, and I would not be eating beet salad.  All of those things are big hell naws for me.  But there are ways to decline without seeming ungrateful to the host, or like you're just a miserable womp womp.

The only part where I totally understood why LeeAnne lost her shit was not when Kary asked why she never had children (although I do hate that - when people ask me I instantly break into anxiety hives and start looking for the nearest exit), but when LeeAnne told her why, Kary basically said she was wrong in her choice not to have them, and that she should have done what she herself did, be positive and have children even though her childhood sucked. Why say any of that, when it's too late for LeeAnne to change her mind even if she wanted to?  Why presume you can compare your shitty upbringing to anyone else's? That was a super dick move on Kary's part, and by then LeeAnne was already at peak irritability after a long, exhausting day.  I would have snapped and gone crazy on her ass for that, too.

It's very sad that Stephanie has had difficulty coping with the amount of sharing that she has gotten from fans about depression. She is a truly good, kind person, and I'm glad she at least realized that while being an excellent role model for people who have struggled with suicidal thoughts, it also takes a toll on her and she's got to stay on top of her own care. It's important to show that it's an ongoing process, and that sometimes additional treatment is necessary during excessively vulnerable times.

I appreciate that Kameron's husband laughed at how ridiculous it is that their daughter didn't know what a commercial flight was. I still don't see Kameron as an actual human being, but more like a robot who is also an actor that is trying to play the part of a ditzy blonde self-proclaimed princess, and goes WAY over the mark of believability. 

[SimonSeymour]

16 hours ago, iloveit said:

Yeah, it appeared they had each other's phone number, too.  I think she just knew she was being unprofessional and was embarrassed to contact him.  I liked that Jeremy didn't buy into her BS excuses. And I am glad that D'Andra ultimately admitted she was wrong. 

Actually, during Travis’s phone conversation with Stephanie, he asked her for D’Andra’s phone number, so I don’t think that they already had each other’s contact info. But, either way, D’Andra handled that situation very poorly. Travis did not, as he gracefully accepted her apology. 

I know that I should feel sorry for Leanne, and in a way, I do. But she just sucks so much that I can’t help but despise her. Her entire personality comes across to me as an act (as well as extremely disordered).  I know it’s not entirely her fault, but her manipulation attempts are beyond disgusting and transparent. The thing is, I’m not sure if even she knows who she really is. Everything is an act for her to either get something or impress someone. She’s not genuine or real. Rather, she’s pathetic, which is why I should feel more sorry for her, because it has to be nearly impossible to go through life like she does. But I just can’t with her. 

[CloseThisAccount]

Content warning: sexual assault & defense of Leanne

Ok, Leanne-like, I'm going to overshare. She & I share a lot of the same history (minus the carnie stuff). I was in a group of women once when one, with whom I had history (we were friendly but she was often passive aggressive) would not stop questioning me about why talking about 9/11 was so upsetting for me (this was years ago).  She was relentless, wouldn't move on. (Here comes the overshare, my apologies.) And finally I was so empty of any other words/feelings/reactions that all I could do was look at her & say, pretty angrily, "because my father raped me every chance he got when I was a kid so I know the looks that were on the highjackers' faces. I know what it looks like when someone is up close to you & wants to destroy you."

That kinda took the air out of the room & I apologized the next time I saw her & I certainly wouldn't have gone on as Leanne did ("probably do it tonight if I got the chance" -- well, okay, Leanne, there's a glass, have at it, showboat). But for the first part of her speech, I totally got where she was coming from.

Let's keep this secret between us, ok? It's something I'm pretty ashamed of. Not the rapes. That's his shame. I'm so horribly ashamed I just stuck up for Leanne. 

Edited September 20, 2019 by TakeAPinotGrigio

[Keywestclubkid]

Leeanne uses her childhood trauma has a crutch and a weapon and that pisses me off ..... To use what has happened in her past to justify her nasty behavior today is in no way acceptable.... She has gotten away with it for so long she no longer sees it has a problem and that really needs to stop....  Yes bad shit happened but it doesn't allow you to be a dick to people just cause....  And if I was that designer of that dress and got the whole guilt trip of well everyone is falling all over themselves to gift her things I would have politely pointed out that they could use one of those people to make the dress and left the room ....

So I totally get where Brandi is coming from in this article and the post she made after all the backlash about her child.... her child yes is unruly and all but she is still A TEN YEAR OLD CHILD and any adult that attacks a 10yo by calling her names really needs to take a step back and ask would that be ok if someone said that about my child? Would we like someone calling our child names? No we would explode on them and remind them as an ADULT you don't do that to children .....sling all the insults  you want at an adult because at the end of the day they are emotionally mature enough to understand it (yes it still hurts but they know how to process it a child doesn't.) Would we walk up to a child lets say at the mall and start calling them brats/other horrible things that shes been called online and telling her what we would do to her and say we would physically attack their child while screaming about what shits they are? NO! We would look deranged doing that and would be arrested and their parent would prob end up beating us down for even thinking that was ok to do and to be honest if someone did that to our child in public we would do the same... the child is not choosing to be on the show her parents are so the well shes on tv and is inviting that on herself excuse doesn't hold water....using that excuse wouldn't that make it ok to attack a child in person say again at the mall for acting bratty I mean they are out in public where everyone is they are opening themselves up for it (see how bad that sounds?) ..again there is a reason children cant make decisions for themselves at that age because they arnt emotionally mature enough... so why do it online? lets give the child More issues then it already has because why? so we can feel good about ourselves that we attacked a 10yo and owned her by calling her names? None of us were perfect acting has children 24/7 and acted bratty about things at times its part of being a child and growing up and pushing boundaries and is not showing the 24/7 life of the child only snippets edited to make a show ....The internet for all its wonderful things really has allowed adults to act in ways that we would never act on in person.... being ADULTS we know that isn't right and do better ...so take issue with the parent not the child on that   ....This is just a general post and in NO  WAY  is attacking or calling out  anyone in this group I am just stating my opinion on this

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/brandi-redmond-daughter-brooklyn-shopping-backlash?cid=soc_fb_RHOC_RHOD_Dish

Edited September 20, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[TV Diva Queen]

On 9/19/2019 at 6:23 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I am sure that is not the first trip to that designer, I am sure that LeAnn's dress was already made, fitted and paid for (at a deep discount) and this visit was just for show.

Who is that non Asian Kevin Lee knock off that LeAnn totes along to every appointment anyway? His begging was awkward, he should have a bit more finesse in that area, no matter how rich his clientele is everyone wants something for free, his schmoozing game is weak.

Instead of saying "shay shay shay", AKLKO says "free free free" 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

Instead of saying "shay shay shay", AKLKO says "free free free" 

AKLKO, Bwahahah! 

[TV Diva Queen]

15 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

AKLKO, Bwahahah! 

you're the one that came up with it.....slow clap to you!

[Baltimore Betty]

Just now, TV Diva Queen said:

you're the one that came up with it.....slow clap to you!

When it is reduced to initials it looks so official, thanks!

[pasdetrois]

All of these women seem really...dim. Cary Dueber at least was intelligent.

Brandy look pretty and fresh in her simple ponytail, t-shirt and jeans. The others should take a note.

D'Andra's gold digger husband is openly contemptuous of her. Doesn't even try to hide it.

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I really think LeeAnne gets off on this kind of behavior and thinks its cool/cute but to me she is an entitled grifter.

Agreed. She's flirting with the return of season one LeeAnn. She's a tireseome one-trick pony.

ETA: And who talked her into the Wall of Hair? Lord.

Edited September 20, 2019 by pasdetrois

[ghoulina]

20 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

can not stand LeeAnn but Kary was rude to ask her in front of a table of people why she doesn't have children. Did she ask D'Andra the same question? As a person that does not have kids I would have been really pissed if someone asked me that. Ask in private if your nosy ass must know. Money just does not buy class, I don't give a rip how big and beautiful your Mexican house with the knockout views is!

I rewatched it this morning. Kary was really out of line with that question. She said, "So, LeeAnn, you never wanted kids?" She made quite an assumption with her question. Maybe LeeAnn DID want kids at some point? And couldn't have them? Or couldn't find the right partner? Kary has no way of knowing. That could be an incredibly painful topic.

So LeeAnn first gave just a very simple explanation - "I had a rough childhood." That's it. She didn't go deep right away. But Kary had to try and argue with her again. "Well, I had a rough childhood too. My mom's an alcoholic and my parents were divorced. But you just can't let that stuff control your life." Something to that affect. It came off very preachy. Kary doesn't seem willing to consider that other people have different experiences, different reactions, different opinions, etc. She was just all, "Well, if *I* can rise above my problems, so can you."

I thought THAT was rude as well. On top of the initial rude question. So that's when LeeAnn really goes all on in on her childhood. She took it too far. There were other people at the table. But, in a way, I understand how defensive she got.

[Natalie68]

On 9/18/2019 at 7:08 PM, breezy424 said:

Sorry but I'm team Leeanne on the room thing.  You've got seven bedrooms.  I don't want to sleep in a bed with you because you want us to get to know each other better.  And as for D'Andra, I don't want to share a room with a slob.

Travis was right being pissed off.  You go to the meeting D'Andra.  Pull your hair back  in a pony tail.  Whatever.  He doesn't care.  You show up.

I'm finding Cary a bit annoying.  I don't do bridges like that.  I'll hang out nearby.  Thanks but no thanks. 

Leeanne with the dress designer was cringy. 

Right there with you.

[Natalie68]

On 9/19/2019 at 6:31 AM, Sage47 said:

Leanne is so deranged. “Yea, and maybe I’ll commit suicide tonight”.... Um. 

Of COURSE I feel for her about her ungodly upbringing. Horrible! But threatening suicide casually like that? Get a grip lady. Maybe you don’t belong on reality TV. 

 And of course, throwing out “her story” for the nine millionth time to get sympathy. She is an attention-seeking nutjob. 

I am honestly asking this question: how has Rich stuck with her this long-and now married her?! She seems utterly exhausting. She is unbalanced and has serious anger issues. I’m sure if he ever even mentioned breaking up she would be threatening suicide in two seconds flat. Poor guy. 

On an upbeat note: Hilton speaking Spanish is too cute for words! 

I don't know but he seemed really happy she was going and I thought it was out of relief she was going to be gone.  HA!  I watched this but clearly not close enough.  What was the Kam weigh me thing?

On 9/19/2019 at 5:16 AM, ghoulina said:

Yup. Betcha Mama Dee would have made that meeting, even on 45 minutes of sleep. 

Also, does D'andra commonly contact the WIVES of the contacts she's dealing with? She should have messaged Travis directly. 

My youngest is 8 and I still refer to it that way! I'm aware of how ridiculous it sounds, though; and I'm working on using more adult terms. Lol!

Yeah well I don't have kids and in my family it is OO LA Wee (I gotta pee).  It is a family joke that stuck.  HA!

[Natalie68]

On 9/19/2019 at 10:02 AM, amarante said:

What difference does it make when you send a text or an email. That's the great thing about texts and emails that you can send them whenever because the recipient is going to pick it up when they are picking up their messages or email.

And what kind of crazy sensibilities are there that make it risqué to send a text regarding a business meeting to a man - any man or person. How is it different if the message was sent at 9 AM.

Anyway the point is that it is not reasonable BUSINESS behavior to cancel an 8 AM meeting at 1:30 because the other person will have set aside that time for the meeting. If there is a true emergency, there is nothing to do but cancel on short notice knowing the other person will essentially be left high and dry. However, no serious business person cancels ANY meeting however the notice because their hair isn't "right". At any event, the issue was that she was TIRED because of how long it had taken the hair color to be done correctly. And no serious business ever admits that they can't be available for business on limited sleep.

On the subject of hair, I know that hair preferences in Dallas differ from most other places but I am finding the extreme hair length of D'Andrea and Leanne to be beyond ridiculous. If you ain't Crystal Gayle don't get below waist extensions. Even Kyle from Beverly Hills cut her hair to a normal "long" length and I think that Kyle's hair was actually her own hair. FWIW, I am NOT jealous as I have been blessed by thick hair which will grow down to my knees if I wanted it to. 😀

The one reason I can think of is some people sleep with their phone by the bed and don't turn off sound in case of an emergency (I don't).  Surely she knew she wasn't coming before 130am.

[walnutqueen]

43 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

What was the Kam weigh me thing?

They were talking about prenups, and Kam said that some had a clause prohibiting the wife from gaining weight.

[Natalie68]

1 minute ago, walnutqueen said:

They were talking about prenups, and Kam said that some had a clause prohibiting the wife from gaining weight.

THANK YOU!

[LibertarianSlut]

16 hours ago, princelina said:

And that would have been an appropriate response.  Kary chose, instead, to say, "So, Leanne, you never wanted children?"  Fuck her.

I agree, but I also see the other side.  I think Kary was too desperate to get deep with Leanne too soon and it came out preachy and weird, but I would so much rather questions about children than share a bed with someone, so it's maybe not the worst thing that happened this episode?

I am slightly more sensitive in real world situations than I'd like to be.  But for some reason, the "children" question doesn't tend to bother me.  When someone asks me if I have/want kids, I tend to think, "damn, I'm looking fertile!  I knew this new bronzer was a good expenditure!"  And I know that it's not the same for Leanne, because she is not of child-bearing years anymore, barring major science.  But she could adopt a child.  I think Diane Keaton was older than 51 when she adopted her son.  I even kind of excuse the continued prodding questions from Kary, because, again, it seemed like Kary was awkwardly and too quickly trying to get to know Leanne deeply, not trying get in a dig at her or school her, and maybe I'm wrong.  But I do think the intentions count, although they're not everything. 

But that's just me.  I am happy to discuss with people I don't know that I'm childless by choice if they bring it up, and I always welcome their feedback, but...I also didn't have any trauma surrounding it.  I just realized I couldn't handle something the size of that coming out of something the size of that, and I'm happy and fulfilled and it's not something I want or need, and I probably wouldn't be the best parent, because I'm spectacularly selfish with my time.  Had my decision not to have children been borne out of something different, I might feel differently, so I respect Leanne for getting defensive, but it was a bit much.  It was a good opportunity to pull Kary aside and lay it out there, rather than wield her issues like a sword, but then she wouldn't be Leanne.

Having said THAT (i really do have mixed feelings on this issue), last year my mom introduced me to a woman around my age, and my mom mentioned where I live with my husband, and the woman didn't say hi, she didn't shake my hand, she didn't nod, she just exclaimed, "oh, do you have children!"  And I thought it was really insulting for her to basically treat me as if my personhood depended on that factor.  (I later found out the reason she was with my mom was because she was going through a messy divorce, and maybe she deflected because she didn't want to talk about marriage. Once I found that out, I so wish I had asked her if she had a husband, so there's a little carny in me too, as Leanne would phrase it).

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I had no idea people were picking on Brandi's kid, saying she's awful and stuff.  She doesn't bother me at all.  i think she's funny.  There are kids on Bravo, like Teddi's son from RHBH, who threw himself on the floor in a full-blown tantrum because Teddi was going to a Boy George concert, and Emily over on OC has some bratty-ass boys whose behavior I also loathe, but they're little so they get under my skin much more.  A tween who sasses her mom who called her a bitch on camera last year is not even close to something that would cause me concern, but to each his own. 

(I'm also gonna say the really unpopular thing:  I think that the kids become fair game once the parents sign them up for TV.  It's not fair, but it's the parents' and Bravo's fault, and I'm never not going to snark on a kid who's on my TV for entertainment.  What I would never do is try to get the parents' attention on social media to get them to govern their kids better.  Brandi created this, and now she has to live with it.  It kind of takes care of itself.)

[RealHousewife]

2 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

They were talking about prenups, and Kam said that some had a clause prohibiting the wife from gaining weight.

Wow. I’m a thin woman and have always been in decent shape. I’d still never marry someone who’d want to prohibit me from gaining weight. What if the wife’s metabolism changes after kids or or she has an injury where being active is difficult? No thank you to any man that superficial. 

[For Cereals]

23 hours ago, Sarah Heart said:

Hover, just hover. lol

My leg and eye muscles aren’t that strong!  LOL.  I couldn’t.

I also don’t want to sleep with someone I don’t know, but LeeAnn could’ve been more polite.

[TexasGal]

15 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Wow. I’m a thin woman and have always been in decent shape. I’d still never marry someone who’d want to prohibit me from gaining weight. What if the wife’s metabolism changes after kids or or she has an injury where being active is difficult? No thank you to any man that superficial. 

Totally agree - but I assumed Kam was referring to more, um, transactional than traditional marriages.  Older rich guy with young hot wife.  She gets money and status, he gets arm candy.  Not that unusual with the super richies in Dallas, from my own middle class perch here.  

[princelina]

28 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I agree, but I also see the other side.  I think Kary was too desperate to get deep with Leanne too soon and it came out preachy and weird, but I would so much rather questions about children than share a bed with someone, so it's maybe not the worst thing that happened this episode?

Not to be argumentative - but to me it was.  At that point Kary was annoyed with Leanne and IMO her intentions were to get a dig in.  She doesn't know anything about Leanne or her history and there are better ways to get to know people.  When someone new is trying to know me I don't mind if they say, "Do you have kids?" and I usually just laugh and say something like "No, I was an old bride" and normal people move on; rude weirdos say things like, "Why not?" or start up about adoption, etc.  Depending on my mood sometimes I act polite and gripe about them later, other times I give TMI about ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages until I can tell I'm making them uncomfortable.  Haha too bad for them; they started it.  I know a 13 year old boy with alopecia - adults he doesn't know will approach him in public and ask him how long he has to live!  People with manners that bad deserve what they get.  (Not referring to you of course @LibertarianSlut - I enjoy your posts.)  This is just an issue with me.  And I will just say that Kary's just another fameho trying to make her mark by duking it out with Leanne - DAndra was supposed to be her friend when she started all the BS about her wedding, so she's worse IMO.  (In my 30's the rude weirdos would ask me, "Why aren't you married?"  How do you answer that question?)

Edited September 20, 2019 by princelina

[LibertarianSlut]

^^^

Girl, if I considered you argumentative, I'd need to check myself into the mental hospital with Leanne.

I think ultimately you're right.  I was trying to portray the other side because I feel like I've been a little nitpicky about Kary, and I was like, "gee, can I form an argument from the other side?"  But it was asshole-ish to go in and on like that by Kary no matter how you spin it. 

And I love the idea of making nosy people uncomfortable by responding with a little passive-aggressive TMI.  They "opened the door," as trial lawyers say.

And, I don't know why exactly, but fuck those people who asked you why you weren't married yet.  That's a horse of another color to me.  I also tried to give D'andra a little slack with regard to Leanne because it's a new season, and I had been so hard on her in the past, but you're assessment is more on target than mine, I suspect.

Kary--"another famewhore trying to make her mark by duking it out with Leanne" is probably the most spot-on statement that can be made. Brava.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, LibertarianSlut said:

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(I'm also gonna say the really unpopular thing:  I think that the kids become fair game once the parents sign them up for TV.  It's not fair, but it's the parents' and Bravo's fault, and I'm never not going to snark on a kid who's on my TV for entertainment.  What I would never do is try to get the parents' attention on social media to get them to govern their kids better.  Brandi created this, and now she has to live with it.  It kind of takes care of itself.)

To me I don’t think that it’s “fair game” if it’s still a child. Snotty teenagers who know what they are doing 100% I  have no issue cause they know exactly most of the time what they are doing and just don’t care. Someone 20 and 30 hell even 10 years older snarking on a child is just not cool personally .  Someone with more life experience attacking a child that in no way asked for it themselves just comes across as mean and vicious to me.  I’m not saying don’t have an opinion but remember at the end of the day she is only a 10 yo and is a still a child who isn’t fully formed and is still growing and learning. Why bully a child? Don’t they get that enough from other little kids? Now we’re gonna add adults into that mix and say it’s ok? Again this isn’t meant to attack you or your point of view just a counter opinion. Now Brandi spoiling the child and buying her things while she is acting that way by all means is fair game. But again even she is saying this is her first daughter to reach this tween age and is a learning experience for her to. She needs a better plan on correcting her child’s behavior 100%. By giving in to her and trying to buy her love while she is behaving in that way is setting a horrible example. Growing up with such a shitty childhood of my own I think I just get super protective when it comes to anything affecting a child negatively. Ok I think I’m all out of gas on the kid topic and I’ll jump off this train. 🙂 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[RealHousewife]

I completely agree with @princelina. People can be so judgmental of single and/or childless people past age 30. 

I’m younger than LeeAnne and get a lot of people telling me I need to have kids ASAP, that it’s not a good idea to have them past 35, that I owe my parents grandchildren (the same folks who are part of the reason I don’t have kids). As LeeAnne might say, I’m exhausted! My weave is exhausted! The pantyliner on my underwear is exhausted! Seriously, each time I compliment how cute someone’s kid or grandkid is, I get asked when I’m having one. It’s endless. I appreciate the folks who tell me I’d be a good mother, and I know some people just don’t want me to miss out. But I’ve been there like LeeAnne where I want to explode. 

[yourmomiseasy]

9 hours ago, TakeAPinotGrigio said:

Content warning: sexual assault & defense of Leanne

Ok, Leanne-like, I'm going to overshare. She & I share a lot of the same history (minus the carnie stuff). I was in a group of women once when one, with whom I had history (we were friendly but she was often passive aggressive) would not stop questioning me about why talking about 9/11 was so upsetting for me (this was years ago).  She was relentless, wouldn't move on. (Here comes the overshare, my apologies.) And finally I was so empty of any other words/feelings/reactions that all I could do was look at her & say, pretty angrily, "because my father raped me every chance he got when I was a kid so I know the looks that were on the highjackers' faces. I know what it looks like when someone is up close to you & wants to destroy you."

That kinda took the air out of the room & I apologized the next time I saw her & I certainly wouldn't have gone on as Leanne did ("probably do it tonight if I got the chance" -- well, okay, Leanne, there's a glass, have at it, showboat). But for the first part of her speech, I totally got where she was coming from.

Let's keep this secret between us, ok? It's something I'm pretty ashamed of. Not the rapes. That's his shame. I'm so horribly ashamed I just stuck up for Leanne. 

I'm sorry you went through this.  I doesn't sound like you use it as a constant excuse for bad behavior or weaponize it though.  LeeAnn does.  It isn't just one incident with her, it is nonstop.

9 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Leeanne uses her childhood trauma has a crutch and a weapon and that pisses me off ..... To use what has happened in her past to justify her nasty behavior today is in no way acceptable.... She has gotten away with it for so long she no longer sees it has a problem and that really needs to stop....  Yes bad shit happened but it doesn't allow you to be a dick to people just cause....  And if I was that designer of that dress and got the whole guilt trip of well everyone is falling all over themselves to gift her things I would have politely pointed out that they could use one of those people to make the dress and left the room ....

So I totally get where Brandi is coming from in this article and the post she made after all the backlash about her child.... her child yes is unruly and all but she is still A TEN YEAR OLD CHILD and any adult that attacks a 10yo by calling her names really needs to take a step back and ask would that be ok if someone said that about my child? Would we like someone calling our child names? No we would explode on them and remind them as an ADULT you don't do that to children .....sling all the insults  you want at an adult because at the end of the day they are emotionally mature enough to understand it (yes it still hurts but they know how to process it a child doesn't.) Would we walk up to a child lets say at the mall and start calling them brats/other horrible things that shes been called online and telling her what we would do to her and say we would physically attack their child while screaming about what shits they are? NO! We would look deranged doing that and would be arrested and their parent would prob end up beating us down for even thinking that was ok to do and to be honest if someone did that to our child in public we would do the same... the child is not choosing to be on the show her parents are so the well shes on tv and is inviting that on herself excuse doesn't hold water....using that excuse wouldn't that make it ok to attack a child in person say again at the mall for acting bratty I mean they are out in public where everyone is they are opening themselves up for it (see how bad that sounds?) ..again there is a reason children cant make decisions for themselves at that age because they arnt emotionally mature enough... so why do it online? lets give the child More issues then it already has because why? so we can feel good about ourselves that we attacked a 10yo and owned her by calling her names? None of us were perfect acting has children 24/7 and acted bratty about things at times its part of being a child and growing up and pushing boundaries and is not showing the 24/7 life of the child only snippets edited to make a show ....The internet for all its wonderful things really has allowed adults to act in ways that we would never act on in person.... being ADULTS we know that isn't right and do better ...so take issue with the parent not the child on that   ....This is just a general post and in NO  WAY  is attacking or calling out  anyone in this group I am just stating my opinion on this

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/brandi-redmond-daughter-brooklyn-shopping-backlash?cid=soc_fb_RHOC_RHOD_Dish

If Brandi doesn't want people calling her kid names, maybe she shouldn't have broken the seal by calling her a little bitch and was it an asshole(?) on TV.  I do not feel bad at all saying that Brandi's kids are the absolute fucking worst and that Brandi needs to work on her parenting.  I'm just saying it here though.  I am not seeking Brandi out and sending her messages about it.

3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I rewatched it this morning. Kary was really out of line with that question. She said, "So, LeeAnn, you never wanted kids?" She made quite an assumption with her question. Maybe LeeAnn DID want kids at some point? And couldn't have them? Or couldn't find the right partner? Kary has no way of knowing. That could be an incredibly painful topic.

So LeeAnn first gave just a very simple explanation - "I had a rough childhood." That's it. She didn't go deep right away. But Kary had to try and argue with her again. "Well, I had a rough childhood too. My mom's an alcoholic and my parents were divorced. But you just can't let that stuff control your life." Something to that affect. It came off very preachy. Kary doesn't seem willing to consider that other people have different experiences, different reactions, different opinions, etc. She was just all, "Well, if *I* can rise above my problems, so can you."

I thought THAT was rude as well. On top of the initial rude question. So that's when LeeAnn really goes all on in on her childhood. She took it too far. There were other people at the table. But, in a way, I understand how defensive she got.

I was wondering if it could be a cultural thing with Kary.  She's not from the US and we are much more sensitive and PC about things than most of the world.  Also her wording might not have been the best because she's not a native speaker.

Edited September 20, 2019 by yourmomiseasy

[LibertarianSlut]

Yeah, oh gosh no, never bully a child.  That's horrible.  I just think if a child is on TV--and Brandi's kids are a poor example, because I kind of dig them--but if, say, Stephanie's Cruz were to throw himself into the fountain in a fit of rage because Travis was trying to put him to bed, I'd comment on here, like, "damn, that kid's a brat.  If his parents don't discipline him, they're doing him a disservice."  I'm just saying it's not my MO to pull punches because someone is a minor.  

If I think Kam's daughter has Court's face, I'm going to say it.  Not that Court's ugly.  It's just jarring that he has an identical twin who is a nine (?) year old girl...

ETA @RealHousewife, I think your post is funny because you invoked the "weave/panyliner," which will never not be funny.  The rest of what you described is bullshit, not funny!

Edited September 20, 2019 by LibertarianSlut

[PhilMarlowe2]

On 9/19/2019 at 2:13 PM, bichonblitz said:

I can not stand LeeAnn but Kary was rude to ask her in front of a table of people why she doesn't have children. Did she ask D'Andra the same question? As a person that does not have kids I would have been really pissed if someone asked me that. Ask in private if your nosy ass must know. Money just does not buy class, I don't give a rip how big and beautiful your Mexican house with the knockout views is!

Having said all that, why must LeeAnn be such a downer? People aren't always attacking you, carny girl. Find a better therapist. There must be something severely lacking in Rich to stay with this woman much less want to marry her. And yeah, I do believe he cheats. 

Not only that, but Kary was also pretty patronizing when LeeAnne mentioned her difficult childhood. She was pretty much like, "I had a difficult childhood too, you just need to let it go!" Now, don't get me wrong, LeeAnne went way beyond the pale in her reaction, and refused to drop it, but I understood her initial instinct to put Kary in her place. I would be extremely annoyed too if someone decided to armchair psychoanalyze me at dinner.

[heatherchandler]

4 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

(I'm also gonna say the really unpopular thing:  I think that the kids become fair game once the parents sign them up for TV.  It's not fair, but it's the parents' and Bravo's fault, and I'm never not going to snark on a kid who's on my TV for entertainment.  What I would never do is try to get the parents' attention on social media to get them to govern their kids better.  Brandi created this, and now she has to live with it.  It kind of takes care of itself.)

I agree 100%.  Who puts their kid on tv and doesn’t expect to get comments?  The internet is brutal, I would never put my kids on tv.  

[RealHousewife]

5 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

ETA @RealHousewife, I think your post is funny because you invoked the "weave/panyliner," which will never not be funny.  The rest of what you described is bullshit, not funny!

I got ya! I know, LeeAnne can be freaking funny. 😂