"The View": Week of 7/8/2019

[TheView]

Why aren't they responding to that article? 

[bella1716]

can someone tell Meghan depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain that leads people  (including very very very very very rich people ) to commit suicide. Did she forget about Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain already?

Telling people with a chemical imbalance to just be grateful and suck it up is what causes the guilt that encourages a lot of victims to harm themselves and not talk to anyone. 

[TheView]

1 minute ago, bella1716 said:

can someone tell Meghan depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain that leads people  (including very very very very very rich people ) to commit suicide. Did she forget about Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain already?

Telling people with a chemical imbalance to just be grateful and suck it up is what causes the guilt that encourages a lot of victims to harm themselves and not talk to anyone. 

When Meghan brought up Perot during the show today, I thought, "Did Perot inspire Meg's treatment of Joy?" He said "Stop and listen" and I immediately thought of Meghan telling Joy that it was her job to listen to her. 

[bannana]

3 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

If a city/country can successfully pilot and implement programs like the ones Yang was talking about, good for them. I don't think America is ready for ideas like that when they're still struggling to convince large segments of the population that healthcare and education should not be a privilege for the rich. At the very least, I hope he's made available real-time data and studies that demonstrate previous successful attempts at this program and reasonable measures that can be undertaken to expand those programs in a way that is inclusive to the entire US population which is pretty damn big. It's great to say that you're going to take money from the 1% to pay for everything, but what does that really look like? I'm under the impression that the increased taxes for the rich strategy is going to be put toward this stipend for life program and services like marriage counseling as opposed to healthcare and/or education?

You make some very good points @RHJunkie.  I think Basic Income would be more doable in countries that already have universal health care and other programs that assist the disadvantaged.  The idea is not that money would be siphoned away from existing programs, but that with BI, people would not necessarily need other assistance, and it helps improve physical and mental health.  So you invest in the BI for everyone, and those other costs begin to go down.  The concept is that everyone is entitled to a BI.  It also reduces a lot of bureaucracy.  Every program that is created to assist segments of the population comes with its own rules and regulations, and that creates more bureaucracy.  With BI it is just paid out, no rules.

There is data that demonstrates that with BI, people did not work less or quit their jobs.  And in addition to making life easier for those who are struggling economically for any number of reasons, it also allows people to actually pursue the work that they want.  So, for example, if you want to be an artist but there is no way that you can earn a living wage, BI would help people to pursue their dreams.

Yang did a poor job of explaining it, but then it would be tough to explain it on a show like the View. 😀

[blondiec0332]

7 minutes ago, bannana said:

There is data that demonstrates that with BI, people did not work less or quit their jobs.  And in addition to making life easier for those who are struggling economically for any number of reasons, it also allows people to actually pursue the work that they want.  So, for example, if you want to be an artist but there is no way that you can earn a living wage, BI would help people to pursue their dreams.

Also it would put a lot more money in the economy.  A $1000 isn't enough to radically change your lifestyle but it would improve your lifestyle.  People would have more money to pay bills, take classes, splurge on new clothes, save for retirement.  If you gave everyone an extra $1000 a month the need for food stamps would drastically decline.  Housing assistance would decline. People would be able to pay insurance premiums. The more you understand BI the more you like it.

[Kenz]

I watched Sunny throughout the show today. She sat as far away on her chair as she could from Meghan and never once looked at her. Keep it up Sunny, and let the brat know that she isn't going to play nice with her. Meanwhile, MM was doing her grimaced, sullen face with many head swivels. I hope she gets the message that she is getting iced out by her fellow co hosts, and it's not going to get better.

[TheView]

9 minutes ago, Kenz said:

I watched Sunny throughout the show today. She sat as far away on her chair as she could from Meghan and never once looked at her. Keep it up Sunny, and let the brat know that she isn't going to play nice with her. Meanwhile, MM was doing her grimaced, sullen face with many head swivels. I hope she gets the message that she is getting iced out by her fellow co hosts, and it's not going to get better.

The Ice Princess is getting iced by her co-hosts. 

[bannana]

NutMeg was really uncomfortable during the Census discussion, but strangely did not come to the defense of Repubs when Joy explained that the citizenship question was a way to benefit Repubs.  She did seem irked by Joy's suggestion that everyone boycott the Census, stating that people would be fined.  Joy challenged the government to lock up every American, if everyone does not fill in the Census!  Poor NutMeg, she was scowling, eyerolling and sip sip sipping.

NutMeg did not understand at all what Joy was saying during the Kourtney topic, when she said it is an "inside job".  IOW, wealth, good health, and physical attractiveness do not necessarily make someone happy, it is an inside job, as in you have to work on yourself and your mental health.  And it was indeed odd that NutMeg says she feels better when she sees or thinks about people less fortunate.  I am sure she didn't mean it that way 😜.  At the end of the segment, Joy says:  like I said, it's an inside job.  NutMeg snarked: all right, then you feel bad for her.  Joy replied: I don't feel bad for her, I am telling you it's an inside job.  NutMeg sip sip sipped.

10 minutes ago, Kenz said:

I watched Sunny throughout the show today. She sat as far away on her chair as she could from Meghan and never once looked at her.

Yes, Sunny is freezing her out.  She never looks in her direction, directs all of her comments to her right, and pretty much pretends that NutMeg is not there.  Sunny will never stop freezing her out. It is now my favourite thing to watch on the show. 😆

[bannana]

NutMeg posted on Instagram before returning to work on Monday, and the image she posted was very telling.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/meghan-mccain-posts-cryptic-instagram-153000757.html

People were as offended as we were by Nutmeg's comments about marriage counselling to her is about drinking JD and shooting guns.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/meghan-mc-cain-receives-flack-for-her-version-of-marriage-counseling-drinking-jack-daniels-shooting-some-guns-202316527.html

According to this article, it is not a negotiating ploy, it is all about the leaks! 🙄  And they talk about the body language between Sunny and NutMeg since her peeps have accused Sunny of being the leaker.❄️

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-mccain-keeps-abc-hanging-refuses-to-say-on-air-if-shes-staying-with-the-view

[telemachus2]

Dunno if / what tweak(s) Joy may have had, but she’s def looking prettier and more youthful, and not just around the eyes.  MY cataract surgery did zip for me, facially, and I hope she spills the beans - I’ll vote for Yang to cover my “work!”  And carrying on with superficialities, Megs looked awful today, heavier -  and I guess we’ve now seen her real hair.  No wonder she wigs out so often.

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

Meghan's thought about marriage counseling - drink whiskey and shoot guns -  is pretty irresponsible.  consider the number of women killed by their abusive partners, often due to a combination of booze and guns.  

I think the newlywed should refrain from giving marital advice.  Especially since they don't live together full time.  It is also very tone deaf in a country when people are shot daily.

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, bannana said:

Not so ludicrous. Investigate it.  It will reduce other social payments.

I saw him on Maher and I liked what he said about this money.  Take the large industries such as Apple, Google, Amazon, make them actually pay taxes and THAT is how you get the $.  They currently pay 0.  Not so crazy.

I am loving that you all are watching.  I get to hear what is going on and know when to check twitter!

[Kenz]

14 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I think the newlywed should refrain from giving marital advice.  Especially since they don't live together full time.  It is also very tone deaf in a country when people are shot daily.

This is another example of Meghan shooting off her mouth before she thinks. She wants people to know that she's a gun totin', whiskey drinkin', tough girl ,and it never occurred to her that spouses are killed every day by guns, and lots of the murders are probably influenced by drunkeness. Her image must be maintained! 

She's such a dim bulb.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Kenz

[atlantaloves]

I remember when I had my eye surgery I was not suppose to wear eye makeup or rub my eyes, that was a no no. And yes, everything is really really bright for a couple of weeks. It hurts without dark glasses let me tell ya. Joy is such a trooper. 

[HaaCHOO]

1 minute ago, Kenz said:

She just such a dim bulb.

And THAT is a compliment!

[HaaCHOO]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

ETA: Speaking for myself, I know, in the past, I'd watch the week's show at the end of the week and then post about stuff from Monday's show; or mid-week's, or the whole damn week, depending on my thoughts about them. We're not limited to talk about what happened on Monday's show on Monday only, etc.

Yeah..."ScorpiosRule," I find myself reading posts into the late-night/early-morning hours and then commenting on things that might be several days old.  I don't think I'll stop until someone slaps me.

[Cementhead]

5 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

And THAT is a compliment!

True! If we made a list of all the things that have been said about her, being called a dim bulb is probably one of the nicest things that anyone has ever called her. 

[njbchlover]

18 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Meghan said she'd show her kids the Brandy version  of Cinderella (a Rogers & Hammerstein version) because, "It's a lot less weird than the Disney animated one."  Uh, you work for Disney, you idiot.

You would think that would be another strike against Meghan, wouldn't you?  Plus, I don't get what's so "weird" about the Disney animated version.  It was a cute cartoon that was made in 1950.  For it's time, and since, it's a nice little fairy tale - a fictional story that has a happy ending.  

Maybe she thinks it's weird because she relates more to Cinderella's wicked step-mother than she does to Cinderella!  

Bippity-boppety-boo to Meghan!  

[GHScorpiosRule]

Joy has been very frank about how she gets Botox treatments. On her forehead, I think, and near her eyes?

[falltime]

5 hours ago, Ladyrain said:

I missed it.   What did Joy say to make Nutty reply, "Well, that was mean"?

I don't know if this is the same conversation, but the one I heard is MM said to bring Mitch on the show. Joy replies "not after I eat." MM say "that's not very nice."

[Haleth]

23 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

You would think that would be another strike against Meghan, wouldn't you?  Plus, I don't get what's so "weird" about the Disney animated version.  It was a cute cartoon that was made in 1950.  For it's time, and since, it's a nice little fairy tale - a fictional story that has a happy ending. 

I think she’s talking about the singing mice that can sew. Or maybe she thinks the Fairy Godmother is a Socialist. 

[falltime]

4 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

I wish Joy had been able to put her Trump hate aside for 3 minutes so she had time to name her third book. 

She only had 2 books.

[njbchlover]

43 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I think she’s talking about the singing mice that can sew. Or maybe she thinks the Fairy Godmother is a Socialist. 

Well, knowing Meghan, if she came across any singing, sewing mice, she probably would have shot them!  

[bannana]

I forgot to mention.  When they watched the vid clip of the Kardashians, Whoopi slowly slid off of her chair onto the ground.  I was very impressed with how agile she is, she had no trouble getting back up.

I think she meant to continue the bit when she got back to the table, but Joy and Sunny either didn't realize or didn't care and they just started talking about the topic.  The camera kept going back to Whoopi in anticipation I guess that she was going to do or say something funny, but the co-hosts kept talking so eventually gave up. 😆

[Orillia]

Meghan has some nerve calling anybody mean. Just take the gh out of her name.

[Kenz]

4 hours ago, bannana said:

I forgot to mention.  When they watched the vid clip of the Kardashians, Whoopi slowly slid off of her chair onto the ground.  I was very impressed with how agile she is, she had no trouble getting back up.

I think she meant to continue the bit when she got back to the table, but Joy and Sunny either didn't realize or didn't care and they just started talking about the topic.  The camera kept going back to Whoopi in anticipation I guess that she was going to do or say something funny, but the co-hosts kept talking so eventually gave up. 😆

I could not care less if a flaky, uber rich Kardashian is depressed, and Whoopi's reaction was great. I think you are right, Bannana, that Whoopi had more to say that would have been funny, but the others were taking it more seriously!

Edited July 10, 2019 by Kenz

[merriebreeze]

Two things can be true at the same time: The Kardashian topic should have never been on the show. Whoopi's antics were stupid.

Are the Kardashian discussions along the lines of paid product endorsements ("View Your Deal")? They really diminish the show IMO

[jumper sage]

11 hours ago, xingu said:

And the last time I checked mermaids were kinda aqua colored.  When you show me a race that is aqua colored

Having seen, many times, the Discovery Channel's Mermaids: The Body Found I am inclined they, like us, come in many colors. Animal Planet had a great one too:  Mermaids, the New Evidence.

[bella1716]

If TPTB were trying to get Elizabeth back to get rid of Meghan, why are they now trying to keep Meghan? i don't get it. I really don't need her spreading propoganda during election season. 

[bella1716]

4 hours ago, atlantaloves said:

I remember when I had my eye surgery I was not suppose to wear eye makeup or rub my eyes, that was a no no. And yes, everything is really really bright for a couple of weeks. It hurts without dark glasses let me tell ya. Joy is such a trooper. 

Meghan would've dragged it out for sympathy. Joy's the badass Meghan tries so hard to convince people she is

[TV Diva Queen]

Someone upthreas said that Joy was too busy trashing Trump to get to her third book. I think she only had 2 anyway. There were two on the table and then Whoopi cut off joy and said something like is the “Audie cue getting both of them”. Whoopi’s not that quick to change 3 to 2. 

[tinkerbell]

A moment that bugged me was when they were talking about the USA women's soccer team, and discussing how they get paid less than the men's team.  It was a good discussion until Meghan spat out "the men's team SUCKS!"   This was after she said she doesn't follow soccer.  

I don't know anything about the men's soccer team.  BUT - can't you advocate for fair pay without throwing out that the mens team SUCKS?  is it necessary to put down one American team in order to make the point that another one is underpaid? 

[geekburger]

Why isn’t Ana on during these four panel days?

[telemachus2]

Did anyone else notice (during Joy's paean to Michelle Obama's autobiography) when they showed a pic of Ms. Obama visiting The View - all the panelists were beaming save Elisabeth, who was dour (maybe scheming her nasty "freshness" comment, that seemed to adversely compare Michelle with Megun's mom. Doesn't seem quite so shocking anymore. ) 

[HaaCHOO]

1 hour ago, telemachus2 said:

Did anyone else notice (during Joy's paean to Michelle Obama's autobiography) when they showed a pic of Ms. Obama visiting The View - all the panelists were beaming save Elisabeth, who was dour (maybe scheming her nasty "freshness" comment, that seemed to adversely compare Michelle with Megun's mom.

I noticed, and thank you, TeleMachuS2!  I also thank whatever producer/ production assistant found and showed the photo--a model of the real Elisabeth.  That ill-bred "fresh" comment was a perfect example of a disguised slur from an entitled white woman.  Some Christian! 

[HaaCHOO]

3 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

I don't know anything about the men's soccer team.  BUT - can't you advocate for fair pay without throwing out that the mens team SUCKS?  is it necessary to put down one American team in order to make the point that another one is underpaid? 

Great point, Tinker!  And SHE thinks she's more patriotic than the rest of us???  She continues to be a bigger (I'm not referring to size) idiot every day.

[HaaCHOO]

6 hours ago, jumper sage said:

18 hours ago, xingu said:

And the last time I checked mermaids were kinda aqua colored.  When you show me a race that is aqua colored

Having seen, many times, the Discovery Channel's Mermaids: The Body Found I am inclined they, like us, come in many colors. Animal Planet had a great one too:  Mermaids, the New Evidence.

I haven't seen the mermaid "documentaries," but I'd assume their coloring (mermaids and merboys/men) depends on the colors of their parents.  Apparently one of Ariel's parents was bright pink, the other greenish--and one of them had scarlet hair.

She's lucky one of her parents wasn't this goldfish.  Disney would never have animated her. 

Edited July 10, 2019 by HaaCHOO

[SPinCA]

I was away for a few days visiting family in Europe and just catching up. Ugh that comment from Meghan about shooting guns and drinking = marriage counselling really annoyed me. That’s too real to be funny imo. During my time in generally safe Ireland there were 2 women murdered by their husband/partner. It’s a worldwide scourge and to suggest that shooting and getting drunk is a way to solve problems is dangerous and irresponsible imo. There’s no shame in marriage counselling or any type of therapy but I guess Meghan was keeping up the conservative viewpoint that it’s for weak soy boys. And yeah as some of you said already let’s hear from her when she’s living full time with her husband for several years (and doesn’t have the benefit of independent wealth). 

[blondiec0332]

10 minutes ago, SPinCA said:

It’s a worldwide scourge and to suggest that shooting and getting drunk is a way to solve problems is dangerous and irresponsible imo.

It's not just your opinion.  Meghan should have had to issue a clarification saying she was not suggesting getting drunk and having gun play is a good way to solve marital issues. The shit this twit gets away with saying is unbelievable.  We have seen a bunch of other co hosts have to issue apologies for things a lot less than this.

[RHJunkie]

11 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

A moment that bugged me was when they were talking about the USA women's soccer team, and discussing how they get paid less than the men's team.  It was a good discussion until Meghan spat out "the men's team SUCKS!"   This was after she said she doesn't follow soccer.  

I don't know anything about the men's soccer team.  BUT - can't you advocate for fair pay without throwing out that the mens team SUCKS?  is it necessary to put down one American team in order to make the point that another one is underpaid? 

I found all of them women were ill-informed on the topic but Meghan's comment about the men's team sucking I found insulting because it's clear that her opinion is purely driven from a US context. It's not a US tournament, it's an international tournament so pay and popularity are not measured solely on how the men and women's US teams compare. For the reputation that Americans get internationally for being egotistical with the belief that nothing exists or matters beyond America...it's the Meghans of the world that lend to that negative assumption. 

What all of them failed to acknowledge is that the prize money for these tournaments is based on estimated revenue. The reality is that while the women's tournament generates millions of dollars in revenue, the men's tournament generates BILLIONS! I'm sure if people actually calculated total revenue with prize monies paid out, it would guess it likely and quite often, the women get paid a higher percentage of their tournament's revenue as opposed to the men. It seems unfair to the US women's team because they have become the face of the tournament but these decisions aren't determined in an American bubble. If/when other women's teams win the tournament and prize money, it will largely be thanks to the competitiveness and popularity of the women's US team that have been the faces of this tournament for quite some time. If/when the men's US team ever wins, they will benefit from the competitiveness and popularity of other countries' teams and their investment in the tournament.

The only way to close the gap in actual monies paid out is for organizers to either take less (and even then there's no way the monies will be the same as the men's prize money) or they either combine the estimated revenues (or the tournament itself) and offer equal prize money for the winning teams. If the latter happens, the women will be earning a lot of their money from the popularity of the international men's team competing so will the men be okay with taking significantly less? This issue was not at all presented well on the show.

Edited July 10, 2019 by RHJunkie

[TheGreenKnight]

Loved Whoopi putting McCain in her place. Everyone has a right to their opinion on this show, to say what they think without being attacked and screamed at!

Edited July 10, 2019 by TheGreenKnight

[Haleth]

Argh, I’m yelling at Whoopi and Joy to find their words. The ones they want to hear from are the people using alleged sex trafficking as the excuse for separating children from adults at the border. That’s what Whoopi is trying to say. 

Yeah, Joy definitely had her eyelids done, which explains why she wore the dark glasses for weeks, while they healed. 

Man, Meg is hitting all the points today. She’s tough (check), everyone else is a snowflake (check), she loves to shoot (check), no kids (check), my father (check), everyone is mean to me (check)...

Edited July 10, 2019 by Haleth

[rickhurst3186]

As they go to the first commercial break notice that everyone is heads down rearranging their blue cards. Megs is especially argumentative today, with Whoopi no less. Also, I'd like to add that Sunny is flawless today. Just beautiful!

Edited July 10, 2019 by rickhurst3186
Additional Comment

[CynicalGirl]

12 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Loved Whoopi putting McCain in her place. Everyone has a right to their opinion on this show, to say what they think without being attacked and screamed at!

This. And I also loved Whoopi (and Joy) cutting her off when she started talking about her in-laws being Evangelicals. Like who gives a shit, we're talking about LEADERS not about your nobody in-laws. Then Meghan just *sighed* 

[GladysCravits]

Will never understand how Megun continues to think finding her peace at the  expense of an innocent animals life  is ok.  The poor critter, whatever it may be, values it’s life as much as he does hers.  Just another example of her self centered behavior.  

[GladysCravits]

Meant to say, values it’s life as much as she does hers.   sorry.  

[athousandclowns]

I don't recall which politicians I admired at age 8 because they were independents or not.  Anyone? She suffers from false memories. 

[HaaCHOO]

56 minutes ago, rickhurst3186 said:

Megs is especially argumentative today, with Whoopi no less.

Show's not on here for 45min or so but I can't watch until late this afternoon.  I hope she continues to disrespect Whoopi (at least in Whoopi's imperial mind).  It will lead to her undoing. Does she NOT know who has the real power on this show?  Disney LOVES Everything Whoopi.  Princess, she got you the job; she can take it away.

[falltime]

11 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

A moment that bugged me was when they were talking about the USA women's soccer team, and discussing how they get paid less than the men's team.  It was a good discussion until Meghan spat out "the men's team SUCKS!"   This was after she said she doesn't follow soccer.  

I don't know anything about the men's soccer team.  BUT - can't you advocate for fair pay without throwing out that the mens team SUCKS?  is it necessary to put down one American team in order to make the point that another one is underpaid? 

This reminded me of the time she dissed Lori Loughlin's husband, Mossimo Giannulli. Aunt Becky's husband, who ever the hell you are, I didn't know about you until yesterday.

[HaaCHOO]

1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

The only way to close the gap in actual monies paid out is for organizers to either take less (and even then there's no way the monies will be the same as the men's prize money) or they either combine the estimated revenues (or the tournament itself) and offer equal prize money for the winning teams. If the latter happens, the women will be earning a lot of their money from the popularity of the international men's team competing so will they be okay with taking significantly less?

And that, my friends, is just one reason for the suit and ensuing arbitration.

3 minutes ago, falltime said:

This reminded me of the time she dissed Lori Loughlin's husband, Mossimo Giannulli. Aunt Becky's husband, who ever the hell you are, I didn't know about you until yesterday.

Most Target shoppers know Mossimo.