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S09.E08: Showdown at Villa Rosa


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2 hours ago, TexasGal said:

In case anyone is interested, here is the text of the House resolution.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-resolution/401/text

It does call out certain countries in the "whereas" statements of facts, but the actual resolution part is:

Again, great PR stuff and good on LVP for getting it brought to someone's attention but it's not actually going to do anything. 

As you must know dealing with Congress is horrific and they rarely get things done. I don't think that takes anything away from the effort and work it takes to get a bill to the floor.  

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5 hours ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Yes, I don't want to downplay the importance of a non-binding resolution but that's all it was - a non-binding resolution. No actual policy was changed. It's an important public relations victory on the issue and can set up other, actual policy change but as of right now, all that resolution did is express disapproval of the practice. 

I disapprove of overcooked fish. There ought to be a law! 

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I'm thinking PK or Tom are behind this.  PK is broke and needs the money AND he doesn't want the women to focus on his  money troubles. And Tom too.  He doesn't need the money, but he & Ericka need to refocus the women on something else besides his law suit.

I can completely relate to how Lisa responded to Kyle.  When I'm accused of something that I didn't do, I will defend myself to the end of time, and if I even think my bff is mad at me..will turn me into a blubbering idiot!

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14 hours ago, missyb said:

I think people from the dog center sold the story. John Blizzard for one and maybe others confirmed. These are young adults, in hollywood, in the spotlight, a moment of fame and maybe they thought they were helping Lisa. Maybe Lisa did voice something about getting the story out there but I dont believe she sold any story or even did it for free.

I think what Lisa reacted to the most, was Kyle outright saying, she did not believe Lisa. That was her truth and Lisa was lying.  Now, I also believe that Kyle believes that all the texts that Teddi show her prove that Lisa was involved in maybe setting up the VPD scenario and reveal but it says nothing about the radar story.

I also think Lisa Rinna is behind most of this. This is where she thrives. It is sport to her.

And, if someone was so concerned the impact this would have on her small children, and it is completely reasonable to be concerned, she should have dropped out after the first season. 

And another thing, why has it never been shown on camera Dorits explanation of how the woman who loved the dog so much let it end up in a shelter without telling Dorit she could not handle the dog. This part of puppygate makes no sense. It sounds more like a "get rid of this dog situation".  Did none of the girls ask Dorit, who did you give the dog to ???

And, because Teddi later confesses to being in on the scheme to out Dorit, she gets a pass? She was asshole buddies with LVP during filming of Vanderpump Rules, taking her kids to play with puppies, doing charity events. But an hint from Lisa Rinna that she was set up by LVP has her doing backflips.

I would be so happy if we eventually learn Rinna leaked it. They pointedly showed her ordering the potato leek soup (Cloudy, with a chance of meatballs: “There’s a leek on the boat!”).

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13 hours ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

VanderTrump is the final nail in Rinna's coffin for me. Disgusting woman. I also don't believe that Rinna had to have Lisa tell her how to leak things to the press. I'm sure Rinna has more press contacts than the paparazzi she could identify at 100 yards. Matter of fact, I think she leaked it.

It seems like most of the comments about Dorit's children were more along the lines of "Was the dog aggressive or were the kids too rough?" and things of that nature. Dorit is also now insinuating that Lucy had behavioral problems because of something Sessa did. Bitch.

Teddi can fucking miss me with her little speech at the spin event. "Real friends show up." my ass. Shady, lying asshole.

Dorit is not now nor has ever been a victim in this situation. Damned puppydumper.

Erika needs to stay the fuck out of this. It isn't her business, no matter how much she hates Lisa. 

As for Kyle and Lisa...I believe Lisa. That was the angriest we have EVER seen her on the show. I don't think she could have faked that. Ken wasn't out of line. Kyle was told to leave several times and kept walking over to Ken to keep the argument (that SHE started) going.

Yeah he did do something, he homed a small breed young puppy in a home with toddlers.

Mishandling by toddlers can make a tiny 0puppy nip in self defense or exhibit rough play. If it happens enough it becomes a behavior.  It's not the puppy or child's fault, it's the parents not monitoring their children and insisting on having a puppy and the adults at the adoption center who placed a tiny puppy with "tiny" kids.

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15 hours ago, esco1822 said:

I’m starting to think that Kyle is a moron. She’s bought into the belief that LVP is a master manipulator so hard that she is completely unable to see that she’s being manipulated into this confrontation. “You might be the ONLY person who can talk to her about it.” The whole world sees you Rinna...except Kyle. 

Yep ! Lisa Rhinna is a shit starter and she did this same thing with  Lisa Vanderpump as few season ago. Kyle is too stupid to stand her ground and let these women know she's not confronting Lisa on an assumption with no valid proof that she leaking any story to .Personally I believe Dorit or her husband leaked it Lol !!

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6 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Yeah, Rinna mentioned that...about 250 times. 

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Well, some posters were asking why Harry would go to Canada.  Just sayin maybe it was because they own a cottage up there.

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22 minutes ago, Juneau Gal said:

I believe, on many, many different levels, the powers that be at Bravo and in charge of this particular show have really misread their audience and missed the mark big time. Yes, we want the occasional silly spat amongst friends or frenemies, to make us assume these people are real and to make us feel a bit superior because we would never act that way. But this is beyond all that. I watch these shows as escapism; to get away from the needless, endless cruelty and non-stop, unbelievable lying happening in the world. I want mini-ponies, puppies, everything wrapped in pink, swans, glorious houses, and fabulous trips. If I want to watch people acting irrationally and/or despicably, I can turn on the news or read a paper.

Or, you could come to my book club.  There has been some disagreement. Not mentioning any books.  Life of Pi!  😉

Great post, JuneauGal. Spot on.

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28 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Uh, it's both. Lisa is manipulative AND the girls are jealous.

Let's be clear, they all manipulate. Lisa is just better at it.

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How, though? How do they all manipulate?  I mean, I can identify a bunch of behaviors among all of these women that I don't like but some of those behaviors aren't manipulation. Being manipulative isn't the only bad thing a person can be. But saying that Lisa is "better" at it is basically admitting she is more manipulative. Because if you aren't good at it, then you aren't actually all that manipulative. 

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2 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Well, some posters were asking why Harry would go to Canada.  Just sayin maybe it was because they own a cottage up there.

They own a cabin in Canada because that is where their asses were filming their Hallmark Movies......along with all the other 80’s actors.

This is why Rinna stays doing the most in Beverly Hills.

She freakin made a slow crawl back from Hallmark, Diapers and QVC.

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1 minute ago, Boofish said:

As an armchair detective whomever pointed out the leak "sounded like LVP" because of the term "poor creature" is the one who leaked the story. They went out of their way to make it look like LVP leaked the story by including subtle hints. LVP is way too smart and calculating to make such an amateurish mistake.

Yes, Boofish. And maybe such a cagey mofo would also do something like take the time to remind us viewers that that sounds like something Lisa would say! Being English and all! So cagey, and subtle.  Welp, I guess we'll just never figure it out.

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14 hours ago, goofygirl said:

I think Kyle really shit the bed on this one.  I agree, going to Villa Rosa looks like a LOT more fun than going to any of the other howives' houses.

Rinna may get her wish taking down LVP, hope she's saved some $$ from the show, cause there won't be any more RHOBH without LVP.

So maybe she shit the bed too?

While I like looking in Lisa's closet I am tired of the repetitive pink parties by Kevin, and I've seen the animals... they run, they flap, the new cast member fawns over them...blah, blah, blah so boring after the umpteenth time.

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On 4/3/2019 at 12:54 AM, dosodog said:

I have a 6 person instant tent.  For me.  And sometimes the dog.  He's big and takes up a lot of space.  I can fit my queen size air mattress and the dog's single mattress* and still have space to walk around.

And I can put the thing up, by myself, in less than 5 minutes.

Rob?  Is that you?

(VDR reference)

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7 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

How, though? How do they all manipulate?  I mean, I can identify a bunch of behaviors among all of these women that I don't like but some of those behaviors aren't manipulation. Being manipulative isn't the only bad thing a person can be. But saying that Lisa is "better" at it is basically admitting she is more manipulative. Because if you aren't good at it, then you aren't actually all that manipulative. 

I can probably name about eleventy million things Rinna has done to be manipulative including this episode's "I think maybe you're the only person who can talk to you" pitch to Kyle. She has gaslighted this whole story since day 1. "Oh I hope we are done with this dog thing now" yet brings it up at every opportunity. She's not encouraging everyone to get their feelings out just out of the goodness of her heart. She has an agenda. That's manipulation. Making someone believe you are supporting them when you are really supporting them doing something to fit your agenda. 

3 minutes ago, dosodog said:

Not really.

When Dorit said on WWHL, that Lucy went to a beautiful home, Isaac Mizrahi, jokingly asked if the house had nice pillows and a nice rug.

Dorit replied that she actually didn't know because she'd never been at the home.

And the ladies still defend Dorit.

That was my attempt at sarcasm. 

58 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

Is Brandi coming back or did I conjure that up somewhere out of my deepest nightmares? Having to watch that ghoul will push me out even more quickly. 

She is coming back. We saw her with Denise (I believe) in the previews of "This season on..."

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57 minutes ago, Giselle said:

No.

If the old fart has health issues he's the one who should have removed himself and let Lisa fight her own battle and throw Kyle out.

It was Ken's choice to engage. 

Kyle has been picking on Ken for a while....now! Got her daughters involved, too.  Kyle had that coming!

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1 minute ago, Giselle said:

Yeah he did do something, he homed a small breed young puppy with toddlers.

Mishandling by toddlers can make a tiny 0puppy nip in self defense or exhibit rough play. If it happens enough it becomes a behavior.  It's not the puppy or child's fault, it's the parents not monitoring their children and insisting on having a puppy and the adults at the adoption center who placed a tiny puppy with "tiny" kids.

I can agree with that. Lucy should have never been placed with the Kemsleys. Puppies nip and young children need to be taught how to play with dogs.

I just don't like Dorit insinuating that Sessa abused Lucy and that is the reason she nipped.

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10 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Well, this was an uncomfortable episode to watch. 

Dorit ordering Chicken Paillard “well done” was the capper and almost as nauseating as anything else in the episode. I adore Chicken Paillard, but there’s really no reason to order it “well done” because it IS juicy but very well cooked. “Well done chicken”? Does she want jerky?

Exactly. Teddi didn’t look like she was really consoling Dorit in that moment.

I’m very happy that in “real time,” LVP is opening yet another bar/restaurant and basically took over the casino to promote it. The contrast of Dorit whinging (another British word! I must be LVP) to LVP running what I assume are solvent businesses says a lot. 

Or do you mean, a two-person tent mauled by a bear? 😉

But no, what do you mean? Kyle had one more thing to say! And that one thing would have solved everything! LVP and Ken should have heard her out!

Well, she may still have some Depends left over from her days as their spokesperson? 🤷🏻‍♀️

ITA. I’m a mess when I’m angry, especially when I’m accused of something false. I either turn silent or start angry-crying. 

Maybe he’ll take a Tumble 4 Dorit?

What was the other nickname they called Lisa? Dorit said it, but the wording was all Rinna. It reeked of “aren’t I clever.”

In sum,

Because it can’t be said enough.

Heaven help them if they didn’t serve it on what D’oh!rit deemed the proper plate. 

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35 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

While I can see why the women suspect Lisa of planting the story, I don’t think anyone should have accused her with zero proof. The story really could have gotten out there by so many other people. Seriously, God knows!

And didn't one of them (Erika?) say that "only" ten people knew the story, as if that were proof that Lisa was responsible.  "Only" ten? 

It's hard for me to believe that Lisa didn't have the guts to confront Dori about the abandoned dog, and that she instead did this convoluted BS to get the story out. 

Since when has Lisa been afraid to read some beads?

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I am curious to see what the rest of the season will look like without Lisa Vanderpump and her beautiful home and many businesses to use as a storyline. 

Will we have more scenes of Erica's vanity productions. Dorit crying about her children while they are locked in the attic.  Teddi promoting her bogus business. Rinna promoting her talentlless daughters and Depends on QVC.

We have Camile's wedding and her house burning down and that's about it. 

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4 minutes ago, langford peel said:

Ken is an older man with health problems. Lisa was genuinely concerned and didn't want him to be upset and agitated. Kyle has been mocking and belittling Ken for quite a while even enlisting her Demon Spawn to mock him on Instagram.

That's what a friend would do. Right?

I also bet Lisa is extra protective and sensitive about Ken now after the loss of her brother. Lisa and Ken have the most beautiful marriage, but I’m sure she worries about losing him too, being so much older than her.

It is a shame what happened just before her birthday. 

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3 minutes ago, Jack Terrier said:

"Let's not talk about the husband".... 😉

1 minute ago, Jel said:

and "let's not talk about what you don't want out there"

*smashes glass on table*

Don't you ever talk about me bringing up the husband! Do you understand me!

*Kyle flees as though Panky is biting her ass*

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1 minute ago, AuntiePam said:

And didn't one of them (Erika?) say that "only" ten people knew the story, as if that were proof that Lisa was responsible.  "Only" ten? 

It's hard for me to believe that Lisa didn't have the guts to confront Dori about the abandoned dog, and that she instead did this convoluted BS to get the story out. 

Since when has Lisa been afraid to read some beads?

I have no idea how this got out, but yeah you’re right “only 10” doesn’t mean it would have been Lisa. People talk, and 10 turns into a much larger number quickly. 

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7 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Kyle has been picking on Ken for a while....now! Got her daughters involved, too.  Kyle had that coming!

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I think that was "kids being kids" type fun, young against old. It was not on the level of inserting themselves in the fight or speaking disparagingly of a cast member as we've seen Ashley of RHoNJ and Kim's Zolciak's daughter do.

Didn't Kyle tell them to delete it? If not she should have.

Maybe Kyle is giving Ken back what she's received, British humor and all that.

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1 hour ago, babykin said:

As you must know dealing with Congress is horrific and they rarely get things done. I don't think that takes anything away from the effort and work it takes to get a bill to the floor.  

That never happened. We don't legislate for China. 

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If they want to mock someone because of "English Humor"then they should mock Lisa and not a sick elderly man. I doubt that Ken ever said anything that warranted him being mocked and belittled on Instagram.

Kyle could have taught them to respect their elders. 

They did it because they are nasty cruel bitches with a sense of entitlement bigger than we can possibly imagine.  But then the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

GET OUT KYLE AND TAKE YOUR NASTY DEMON SEED WITH YOU!

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1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

The women, PK, Ken, VPD staff, OC shelter staff, the "beautiful new family" for Lucy, Teddi's therapist, crew members...a lot more than 10 people knew about the situation before the story broke.

And even if she's using "ten" as shorthand for "not very many", that's still very different than "only one other person knew". If it were only Lisa, she'd have a point. Since it wasn't, her point is embarrassingly dumb.

Erika, for whatever reason (Yolanda?) arrived on the scene, guns a blazing for Lisa. Lisa defended Dorit during stupid pantygate. I'd love to know what it is that causes her to dislike Lisa so much that she's actively gunning for her this year.  She took a photo of the card she wrote, expecting Lisa to say she didn't hear a word from her, and she'd have proof that she did. Her big reveal fell flat because Lisa didn't say that she hadn't heard from Erika, just that she thought they were closer than a standard, two line note would imply. Lisa has always been pretty lousy at reading people, imo. Erika hates you, Lisa. Always has.

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51 minutes ago, Juneau Gal said:

I believe, on many, many different levels, the powers that be at Bravo and in charge of this particular show have really misread their audience and missed the mark big time. Yes, we want the occasional silly spat amongst friends or frenemies, to make us assume these people are real and to make us feel a bit superior because we would never act that way. But this is beyond all that. I watch these shows as escapism; to get away from the needless, endless cruelty and non-stop, unbelievable lying happening in the world. I want mini-ponies, puppies, everything wrapped in pink, swans, glorious houses, and fabulous trips. If I want to watch people acting irrationally and/or despicably, I can turn on the news or read a paper.

Agree. Go on vacation, get your skin filled with some magic liquid and go shopping...or just show me your closet for 40 minutes. I could give a shit about the damn dogs, those annoying Johns, or anything to do with Rinna's "life" and those polyester rags she sells on QVC.

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16 hours ago, Callaphera said:

The best part of this episode was Lisa Vanderpump's dog being two seconds too slow to get out the door after Kyle left. Better luck next time, puppers.

Number of Charlie Sheen references: 2 (one verbal, one in text). I was going to give them props for that but Denise was barely in this episode and she still managed to sneak those two in so... 

I'm surprised Denise didn't mention Charlie in her vows. Guess she doesn't want us to forget the justification for her being on the show.

I want an episode with Tiger Blood  Charlie doing talking heads. 

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25 minutes ago, langford peel said:

This was a very sad episode.

Lisa was so happy that her friend was coming over for a glass of wine to celebrate the fact that she had finally been able to have the United States Congress recognize the horrible abuses of the dog meat trade. Yes petty people will scoff that it means nothing but she put the government on the record as the first step to applying sanctions to those countries involved in this vile and disgusting trade. It is not everything but it is not nothing. Still and all she was happy and rushed to celebrate with her friend. But Kyle didn't care. Because Kyle only cares about Kyle and she was there to virtue signal and call Lisa a liar and a manipulator. Kyle was there to stab her in the back and take the side of Dorit and Lisa Rinna. GET OUT KYLE.

Kathy Hilton greeted Kyle and Mauricio at her home. She wanted to have a lovely dinner with her sister and her brother in law. But Kyle didn't care. Because Kyle only cares about Kyle. She had to tell her sister that her husband was leaving Rick Hilton's firm where he had taken in Mauricio and given him an income and lifestyle that she had become accustomed to living in Beverly Hills. She had to tell her that Mauricio is stabbing her in the back and taking clients and Realtors to set up his own rival agency. GET OUT KYLE!

Kim is fresh out of rehab for who knows what time. She was looking forward to going to the family home in the desert to recuperate in familiar surroundings. Where she had great memories when she was a child star and her mother and sisters were there loving her because they were leeching off of her income. When she was important and felt valued. But Kyle didn't care. Because Kyle only cares about Kyle. She had to tell Kim that she was stabbing her in the back and selling the family home because money was more important than sentiment and Kim was just a burden to her and she had to shut up and take it. Because she was an addict and since she couldn't live off her earnings she was not important anymore. To anyone. GET OUT KYLE!

Lisa Vanderpump has finally realized what a horrible friend and what a horrible person Kyle really is and has divorced herself from the show. Lisa will no longer film with the grifters and low-life’s and hustlers who latch on to her for a storyline. Who want to come to her restaurants for a free meal. Who want to give their relatives jobs and a spot on another reality show. Now we only have Kyle dithering and pretending that she misses Lisa’s friendship. As a viewer we can only have one response.

GET OUT KYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mauricio has every right to set up his own business and take HIS clients with him.  I believe Realtors pay fees to the real estate agencies  they are working for and are more like independent contractors.

Mauricio is getting sued  in some type of fraudulent investor scheme.

I am sure the Hiltons are more than happy to know that they won’t have to be dragged down by the Umanskys.

Shit  just got real for Kyle. First, she is robbed.  Now, her husband is  sued.

I believe she does not have her stores, anymore.

Good luck selling those fugly  Door Knob rings! 

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