S09.E08: Showdown at Villa Rosa

[Otherkate]

Wow. Pretty amazing that LVP was able to manipulate the US House of Representatives into scheduling that Yulin-related vote on the EXACT same day as Teddi's spinning class just so she would have an excuse for why she wasn't staring at a bunch of spin bikes. She really thinks of everything and even controls the US government. She truly IS all powerful!

The editing going from the VPD staff watching the vote to those dummies going all out to rag on Lisa at the lunch seemed pretty intentional to me. Not a good look for the dummies. Dorit is such a scammer, I don't know how they take anything she says at face value. Never in my life did I think I would laugh at a mother saying she's afraid for her children, but I did tonight because I don't believe a word she says and her acting is atrocious. "I'm afraid to go the park! I'm just soooo afraid! Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo!"

Probably just the debt collectors chasing you at the park, Dorit. 

These bitches have literally nothing to talk about besides Lisa. 

I laughed my ass off at LVP's dog desperately trying to get out the door when Kyle was leaving. Hah! 

GOODBYE KYLE!

Edited April 3, 2019 by Otherkate

[Chickabiddy]

15 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

Yep,  Erika looked like a mental genius next to Dorit.  

Like how everything Harry Hamlin said about propaganda is exactly what Rinna does.  No wonder he goes to the woods to get away from her.  Bet he's got a little Wink Wink companion too.

Well, he did helpfully point out that his tent sleeps two. 😉

[dbell1]

Anyone remember that boat trip where when the screeching started between Erika and Eileen and Dorit and Rinna? Kyle and Lisa just slung their arms over each other's shoulders. And they were a team, above it all and strong. And tonight, we saw the opposite. Kyle getting screeched at by the table of harpies and Lisa getting the fallout. 

If Lisa had shown for the cycling, she would have been criticized. And why would she leave her BUSINESS on a day where something she worked for years to accomplish happened. She was mentioned in Congress. The best the rest can hope for is that the gossip rags get their names right, or Depends call with an offer.

I'm out when LVP goes. The rest aren't interesting to me. Except Denise, she's fun. 

[TV Diva Queen]

I’m actually kind of sad. Lisa was just crushed by her bestie. Like someone else said upthread, Lisa was so damn happy her friend was coming for a glass of rosé and then bam...it’s over. I bet Mauricio is going to be upset to lose his bestie too. 

That exterior of the house that kyle and teddy were at looked like Laura Derns house in pretty little liars. Just the backyard part. I’m probably wrong. Lol. It was so damn beautiful though. 

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

Oh after the pearl clutching of a man yelling at a woman, the real thing was milder than I would have hoped for.

She was asked several times to the the f'ck out of their home but she didn't listen, just as she wouldn't when Lisa in her own kitchen, swore on the lives of her children. 

[Jel]

2 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

Well, he did helpfully point out that his tent sleeps two. 😉

What was the name of that mountain he was going to climb...

[dosodog]

9 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Rinna thought Harry's propaganda explanation was a perfect summary of what LvP was doing.

I thought it was a pretty decent argument that Rinna, Erika, or Dorit  was behind the Radar Online article.

And I dislike LvP and think she is a manipulator of epic proportions.

Bravo.  Bravo benefitted from the build up in the online tabloids.

Maybe it was a Bravo producer who leaked the story.  They pieced it together from the filming at that point.....

[eleanorofaquitaine]

The accusations that Dorit is a "puppy dumper" and the disbelief that people could be threatening her kids is precisely why Dorit was right to be upset about this article. Many people lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animals. I have no doubt people are saying horrible things about Dorit's kids because that kind of thing happens all the time online with stories about pets, as Teddi rightly noted.

It's possible and in fact quite likely that everyone - including LVP - acted badly here. At some point, it becomes too fantastical to believe that LVP isn't planting stories. She obviously has good connections to the tabloids. (As someone in public relations, I can say that Kyle is right to say that you should always look at who a story benefits to see who pitched it and yes, she was correct that LVP is the one who benefited from it). I don't know why she just doesn't admit it.

Yes, the original sin here is with Dorit, who handled the situation with the dog badly. But I would have a difficult time trusting LVP, given her propensity to use the tabloids as tools.

[TeeMo]

I really enjoy the slightly befuddled look that Denise has in nearly every scene where they discuss the dog yet again. She always seems to be wondering why these assholes have nothing else to talk about and she is the only one besides Camille who asks logical questions about it or offers reasonable advice. 

Edited April 3, 2019 by TeeMo

[dosodog]

5 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

The editing going from the VPD staff watching the vote to those dummies going all out to rag on Lisa at the lunch seemed pretty intentional to me. Not a good look for the dummies. Dorit is such a scammer, I don't know how they take anything she says at face value. Never in my life did I think I would laugh at a mother saying she's afraid for her children, but I did tonight because I don't believe a word she says and her acting is atrocious. "I'm afraid to go the park! I'm just soooo afraid! Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo!"

Don't forget the bars!  She's afraid to go to the bars!

[nexxie]

9 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Well, it seemed to me that LVP was very over reacting when Kyle came to her house.  Kyle was trying to have a conversation but Lisa would not let her explain herself.  LVP knows a lot more than she's letting on.  IMO, she and Ken were being very defensive.  And why didn't LVP contact Dorit after the ROL story come out and give her a heads up about the TMZ article?

Looked like LVP experienced a bout of narcissistic rage - or, as I normally put it, really lost her shit.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/communication-success/201807/8-signs-narcissistic-rage

[enchantingmonkey]

Kyle should have sided with LVP for no other reason than it has to be more fun to be invited over to Villa Rosa for tea than anything that happens at Dorit's home.  I'd never ruin a friendship with LVP, even if she did lie about planting a true story in a gossip rag, for someone who uses a fake accent on a regular basis.  

If any of this is "reality" between Kyle and Lisa, I'd say that Lisa is like a surrogate sister to Kyle, and Kyle is caught in this vicious cycle of lashing out at Lisa like she wants to but can't with her sister Kathy.  But who knows, maybe Kyle treats Kathy like this, too.  

[njbchlover]

21 minutes ago, charming said:

I can't believe these women are so blinded by their hatred of LVP that they can't see Dorit for the lying liar who lies that she is. Her bad acting at the table sobbing over threats to her children was laughable. 

They look like fools constantly bitching about LVP as she lives her life and expands her businesses. What do any of them do besides obsess over knocking her down?

This was the most real I've ever seen Lisa. She was legitimately upset over Kyle not believing her. She finally understands that Kyle has never been her friend. I hope when Kyle inevitably tries to slither back LVP keeps her distance. Kyle wants to be the star of the show and she will not stop trying to tarnish LVP because she thinks that will help her own popularity.

Teddi mentioned something at Kyle's friend's house (why did we even need to see this woman - is she going to be a new "friend of"?) that LVP deserved a "Razzie" award.  I think that she really meant to say Dorit, because that was the worst fake crying I have ever seen!  And, we've all seen a million examples of fake crying on the housewives shows.  

[tranquilidade]

Rinna's imitations of LVP are down right nasty in a way no one has ever been before.  She took this show to a new low.  

Edited April 3, 2019 by tranquilidade

[Duke2801]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Ok, I don’t like Dorito or PK but it’s not cool for people to threaten their children over something Dorito did. 

I’m sad about this big fight that’s about to happen between Kyle and Lisa, I like them friends, even though it seemed one sided at times. 

But nobody threatened her kids. She said she was afraid that somebody *might* hurt her kids. Complete with a tearless cry to up the sympathy factor. Dorito, you suck and I’m glad you’re finally being exposed for the piece of shit I pegged you as back in your first season. 

Ugh and the fact that these shrews continue to buy her “poor me” act is so sad and infuriating. 

57 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Harry got it right.

If you mean becausse he's leaving and getting the fuck away from his wife, then I heartily agree. The man would rather be alone on a mountainside in his flimsy tent eating dehydrated slop than spend any length of time with her.

And I, for one, certainly cannot fault the man for that. 

32 minutes ago, QQQQ said:

Stick it up your arse, Puppy Dumper.

(Yes, arse is an English word but this was not written by LVP)

But, she probably manipulated you into writing that, didn’t she???!! 

Edited April 3, 2019 by Duke2801

[BloggerAloud]

14 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

The editing going from the VPD staff watching the vote to those dummies going all out to rag on Lisa at the lunch seemed pretty intentional to me. Not a good look for the dummies.

Yeah, the editing is clearly coming down on the side of LVP, which is exactly what these ladies should have expected. Like even if you take everything they say about LVP is true and even add 50 percent more stuff on top of that, do any of them honestly think that Bravo is going to damage the woman who also fronts another successful show on their network?

If Kyle had any sort of brain, she would have seized on the moment on LVP's to be all "I believe you" and rode that into a them vs. the other women storyline.

[njbchlover]

14 minutes ago, Jel said:

What was the name of that mountain he was going to climb...

Brokeback?  😂

[Lady of nod]

So grateful that two great thinkers of our generation explained how propaganda works. God I am hating this season.

[njbchlover]

17 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

The accusations that Dorit is a "puppy dumper" and the disbelief that people could be threatening her kids is precisely why Dorit was right to be upset about this article. Many people lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animals. I have no doubt people are saying horrible things about Dorit's kids because that kind of thing happens all the time online with stories about pets, as Teddi rightly noted.

It's possible and in fact quite likely that everyone - including LVP - acted badly here. At some point, it becomes too fantastical to believe that LVP isn't planting stories. She obviously has good connections to the tabloids. (As someone in public relations, I can say that Kyle is right to say that you should always look at who a story benefits to see who pitched it and yes, she was correct that LVP is the one who benefited from it). I don't know why she just doesn't admit it.

Yes, the original sin here is with Dorit, who handled the situation with the dog badly. But I would have a difficult time trusting LVP, given her propensity to use the tabloids as tools.

I think ALL of these women use the tabloids as tools when they need to, and I think they are all guilty of leaking stories to the gossip rags at one point or another.  Even Kyle, who was so manipulated during that lunch, when questioned whether she thought LVP leaked the story, started to say something like "We've all done....." and she was shut down REAL fast by Erika and Rinna.  My feeling is that Kyle was possibly going to out all of them for using the tabloids when they see fit, but, the other ladies did not want this to be public knowledge.  

In this instance, however, I think that LVP is innocent.  

[KungFuBunny]

[goofygirl]

I think Kyle really shit the bed on this one.  I agree, going to Villa Rosa looks like a LOT more fun than going to any of the other howives' houses.

Rinna may get her wish taking down LVP, hope she's saved some $$ from the show, cause there won't be any more RHOBH without LVP.

So maybe she shit the bed too?

[eleanorofaquitaine]

5 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I think ALL of these women use the tabloids as tools when they need to, and I think they are all guilty of leaking stories to the gossip rags at one point or another.  Even Kyle, who was so manipulated during that lunch, when questioned whether she thought LVP leaked the story, started to say something like "We've all done....." and she was shut down REAL fast by Erika and Rinna.  My feeling is that Kyle was possibly going to out all of them for using the tabloids when they see fit, but, the other ladies did not want this to be public knowledge.  

In this instance, however, I think that LVP is innocent.  

Sure, they all do. They're all in media, they're all living in the tabloid capital of the country, so, sure, yeah, they do. It's LVP's willingness to use the tabloids to attack people she's upset with while insisting she's not upset that is the problem. Because again, it indicates that you can't trust what she's saying to your face.

I am curious as to why you think she is innocent. Who else would have any earthly reason to tall to Radar Online about this story, especially months before it aired? It either had to be her or someone closely connected to her.

Also, her reaction to Kyle says to me that she did it and she got caught. I think that if she didn't do it, she would have reacted much more calmly.

[BloggerAloud]

11 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Who else would have any earthly reason to tall to Radar Online about this story, especially months before it aired? It either had to be her or someone closely connected to her.

I agree with the post early that said that Bravo could've easily told Radar Online that tea about Dorit/LVP to stir up some mess for the season, especially given how it was so noted that the previous season was so boring.

[renatae]

On 3/31/2019 at 10:13 PM, walnutqueen said:

Wyatt Earp, Wyatt Earp.  Brave, courageous and bold.  Long live his name, and long live his glory, and long may his story be told.

I cannot fucking help myself - his name elicits his theme song ...

Same for me, but with my edited version for occasions when Mr. Renatae was binging on it too much:

Wyatt Burp, Wyatt Burp, Strange, outrageous and old...

Now that I'm old, I've forgotten the rest, lol.

[njbchlover]

23 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Sure, they all do. They're all in media, they're all living in the tabloid capital of the country, so, sure, yeah, they do. It's LVP's willingness to use the tabloids to attack people she's upset with while insisting she's not upset that is the problem. Because again, it indicates that you can't trust what she's saying to your face.

I am curious as to why you think she is innocent. Who else would have any earthly reason to tall to Radar Online about this story, especially months before it aired? It either had to be her or someone closely connected to her.

Also, her reaction to Kyle says to me that she did it and she got caught. I think that if she didn't do it, she would have reacted much more calmly.

Exactly for the reason you think she is guilty.  We have rarely, if ever, seen LVP get truly upset or loud over anything.  I think that LVP's emotional outburst and upset were because she was so shocked that Kyle would not believe her when she was telling the truth.  I can't recall LVP being this upset over anything, and throughout the seasons, she's been accused of all kinds of things.  The only other time I recall her being this upset was when they were in Puerto Rico, and Brandi accused her of the whole tabloid thing.

We all see things differently, and it's okay that you believe one thing, and I another.  

As to who else would have a reason to talk to ROL - well, anyone connected with the show is privy to this information and could have leaked the story, especially if ROL is offering some kind of monetary reward - we will never find out, because ROL isn't about to spill their "sources" and the "source" isn't about to out themself.  Who knows who leaked the story - as I said, we will never find out.  It could have been one of the VPD Johns, it could have been a production assistant, it could have been Dorit and PK, Rinna, Erika, Teddi, it could even have been Pandora - you name someone connected in any way to the show, and you have a potential leak.  It could have been Bravo or the production teams, to stir up interest in the new season.  And, as ROL or any other gossip rag is wont to do, one little tidbit, is all they need to create a glaring headline and full page story - with a little bit of truth and whole lot of truth stretching and innuendo.  

Edited April 3, 2019 by njbchlover

[Pattycake2]

I think pk sold the story.  They pay MONEY for those items and since it was being filmed and all 400 vpd staff and volunteers and their friends and families knew the whole story, it was pk’s chance to grab some cash before anyone else.  Or, as I’ve proposed before, the Kemsley rarely paid staff took their well deserved revenge.

[Juneau Gal]

15 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Also, her reaction to Kyle says to me that she did it and she got caught. I think that if she didn't do it, she would have reacted much more calmly.

I really disagree with this thinking, that if you are innocent of an offense you would remain unruffled and calm when confronted. LVP has been mocked, harangued, disrespected, and called a liar for weeks over an event, puppy dumping, that she did not initiate. Anything beyond that is irrelevant; who said what to whom, etc. The puppy dumper is the villain in this story and the idiots are circling the wagons around her like she’s a martyred saint. LVP is justifiably mad, fed up, and over this bullshit. I would have burned the fecking house down (figuratively) by now if I were in her place. 

[missyb]

14 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Sure, they all do. They're all in media, they're all living in the tabloid capital of the country, so, sure, yeah, they do. It's LVP's willingness to use the tabloids to attack people she's upset with while insisting she's not upset that is the problem. Because again, it indicates that you can't trust what she's saying to your face.

I am curious as to why you think she is innocent. Who else would have any earthly reason to tall to Radar Online about this story, especially months before it aired? It either had to be her or someone closely connected to her.

Also, her reaction to Kyle says to me that she did it and she got caught. I think that if she didn't do it, she would have reacted much more calmly.

I think people from the dog center sold the story. John Blizzard for one and maybe others confirmed. These are young adults, in hollywood, in the spotlight, a moment of fame and maybe they thought they were helping Lisa. Maybe Lisa did voice something about getting the story out there but I dont believe she sold any story or even did it for free.

I think what Lisa reacted to the most, was Kyle outright saying, she did not believe Lisa. That was her truth and Lisa was lying.  Now, I also believe that Kyle believes that all the texts that Teddi show her prove that Lisa was involved in maybe setting up the VPD scenario and reveal but it says nothing about the radar story.

I also think Lisa Rinna is behind most of this. This is where she thrives. It is sport to her.

And, if someone was so concerned the impact this would have on her small children, and it is completely reasonable to be concerned, she should have dropped out after the first season. 

And another thing, why has it never been shown on camera Dorits explanation of how the woman who loved the dog so much let it end up in a shelter without telling Dorit she could not handle the dog. This part of puppygate makes no sense. It sounds more like a "get rid of this dog situation".  Did none of the girls ask Dorit, who did you give the dog to ???

And, because Teddi later confesses to being in on the scheme to out Dorit, she gets a pass? She was asshole buddies with LVP during filming of Vanderpump Rules, taking her kids to play with puppies, doing charity events. But an hint from Lisa Rinna that she was set up by LVP has her doing backflips.

[renatae]

2 hours ago, CSunshine76 said:

Did I hear Dorit say she did “nothing wrong” when discussing the Radar story? Um, hello, YOU DUMPED YOUR RESCUE DOG.  I say it every week, but these bitches overlooking that just to go after Lisa infuriates me.

AND you didn't return her to where she rightfully belonged.

Poor Dorit, victim of your own actions.

Edited April 3, 2019 by renatae

[Rina99]

I don't know if Lisa V. tipped off the tabloids. However, I completely understand why Kyle doesn't believe her. There have been too many shady incidents from Lisa V. to not think her capable of it. That's pretty much where I am.

[ParadoxLost]

11 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

I agree with the post early that said that Bravo could've easily told Radar Online that tea about Dorit/LVP to stir up some mess for the season, especially given how it was so noted that the previous season was so boring.

That is one possibility.

I also think its not any more farfetched to think that Erika/Rinna leaked because the want to bury LvP or Dorit leaked because there is no doubt at this point in filming that the other HWs  are so committed to take LvP down that Dorit can spin it to up her profile on the show while still being able to play the victim and avoid a bad edit.

LvP doing it starts becoming slightly less believable when thinking about her being manipulative enough to leak it and then defend Dorit to TMZ; while not being manipulative enough to contact Dorit while all this is going on.

3 minutes ago, Juneau Gal said:

I really disagree with this thinking, that if you are innocent of an offense you would remain unruffled and calm when confronted. LVP has been mocked, harangued, disrespected, and called a liar for weeks over an event, puppy dumping, that she did not initiate. Anything beyond that is irrelevant; who said what to whom, etc. The puppy dumper is the villain in this story and the idiots are circling the wagons around her like she’s a martyred saint. LVP is justifiably mad, fed up, and over this bullshit. I would have burned the fecking house down (figuratively) by now if I were in her place. 

I don't think I've ever heard LvP call multiple HWs bitches multiple times in one episode before.  She is most definitely very angry.  I'm not convinced she is completely innocent; but I'm also not convinced she is as guilty as all the other HWs say she is.

42 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I think ALL of these women use the tabloids as tools when they need to, and I think they are all guilty of leaking stories to the gossip rags at one point or another.  Even Kyle, who was so manipulated during that lunch, when questioned whether she thought LVP leaked the story, started to say something like "We've all done....." and she was shut down REAL fast by Erika and Rinna.  My feeling is that Kyle was possibly going to out all of them for using the tabloids when they see fit, but, the other ladies did not want this to be public knowledge.  

I had this exact same thought.

[renatae]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

Ok, I don’t like Dorito or PK but it’s not cool for people to threaten their children over something Dorito did.  

I agree, but I'm not exactly convinced this happened just because Dorit said so. It seems every time she is under fire for something, she brings up the children. As in, she has a photo of PK with a nose allegedly scratched by Lucy. Then she adds to it the dog bit the children. Later in defending herself, she says the children were bit "numerous" times. OK.

[Callaphera]

The real victim in all of this is poor Giggy? Gidget? Giggity? the poor pile of fluff that Ken was hauling around in his arms while Kyle, Lisa, and Ken were yelling at each other. Not only does the poor thing probably have whiplash from the way he ran up the stairs to get the tablet to show Kyle the TMZ article that she already knew about but it's got little ears. Then again, I've never seen it do anything but blink and maybe yawn so I'm not entire sure it's alive. I guess maybe the swan(s) are the real victim(s) in this. Goodbye, favourite ankles to bite. 

No but seriously, is the dog surgically attached to Ken?

Edited April 3, 2019 by Callaphera

[Rosiejuliemom]

1 hour ago, tranquilidade said:

Rinna's imitations of LVP are down right nasty in a way no one has ever been before.  She took this show to a new low.  

VanderTrump is the final nail in Rinna's coffin for me. Disgusting woman. I also don't believe that Rinna had to have Lisa tell her how to leak things to the press. I'm sure Rinna has more press contacts than the paparazzi she could identify at 100 yards. Matter of fact, I think she leaked it.

4 minutes ago, renatae said:

I agree, but I'm not exactly convinced this happened just because Dorit said so. It seems every time she is under fire for something, she brings up the children. As in, she has a photo of PK with a nose allegedly scratched by Lucy. Then she adds to it the dog bit the children. Later in defending herself, she says the children were bit "numerous" times. OK.

It seems like most of the comments about Dorit's children were more along the lines of "Was the dog aggressive or were the kids too rough?" and things of that nature. Dorit is also now insinuating that Lucy had behavioral problems because of something Sessa did. Bitch.

Teddi can fucking miss me with her little speech at the spin event. "Real friends show up." my ass. Shady, lying asshole.

Dorit is not now nor has ever been a victim in this situation. Damned puppydumper.

Erika needs to stay the fuck out of this. It isn't her business, no matter how much she hates Lisa. 

As for Kyle and Lisa...I believe Lisa. That was the angriest we have EVER seen her on the show. I don't think she could have faked that. Ken wasn't out of line. Kyle was told to leave several times and kept walking over to Ken to keep the argument (that SHE started) going.

[Dance4Life]

Boy George sold the story! 🎩

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, dbell1 said:

Anyone remember that boat trip where when the screeching started between Erika and Eileen and Dorit and Rinna? Kyle and Lisa just slung their arms over each other's shoulders. And they were a team, above it all and strong. And tonight, we saw the opposite. Kyle getting screeched at by the table of harpies and Lisa getting the fallout. 

If Lisa had shown for the cycling, she would have been criticized. And why would she leave her BUSINESS on a day where something she worked for years to accomplish happened. She was mentioned in Congress. The best the rest can hope for is that the gossip rags get their names right, or Depends call with an offer.

I'm out when LVP goes. The rest aren't interesting to me. Except Denise, she's fun. 

This, and so many other instances are what makes tonight's episode so sad.  Tonight, after watching the fallout at Villa Rosa, I was remembering Lisa and Kyle when Lisa got stuck on the half-wall on a hotel room balcony (was that in Paris or Hawaii?)  I just remember the two of them laughing so hard at themselves, and remembering that theirs seemed like a true friendship (not a show-friendship), in spite of the disagreements they have also had.  

Just this season, we saw them laughing together like close friends after dinner with Denise and Aaron, laughing and joking in the car on the way home from Camille's birthday party.  

There are so many other examples of their friendship, I just found tonight's episode upsetting - the friendship fallout seemed so real and raw.

[njbchlover]

10 minutes ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

VanderTrump is the final nail in Rinna's coffin for me. Disgusting woman. I also don't believe that Rinna had to have Lisa tell her how to leak things to the press. I'm sure Rinna has more press contacts than the paparazzi she could identify at 100 yards. Matter of fact, I think she leaked it.

It seems like most of the comments about Dorit's children were more along the lines of "Was the dog aggressive or were the kids too rough?" and things of that nature. Dorit is also now insinuating that Lucy had behavioral problems because of something Sessa did. Bitch.

Teddi can fucking miss me with her little speech at the spin event. "Real friends show up." my ass. Shady, lying asshole.

Dorit is not now nor has ever been a victim in this situation. Damned puppydumper.

Erika needs to stay the fuck out of this. It isn't her business, no matter how much she hates Lisa. 

As for Kyle and Lisa...I believe Lisa. That was the angriest we have EVER seen her on the show. I don't think she could have faked that. Ken wasn't out of line. Kyle was told to leave several times and kept walking over to Ken to keep the argument (that SHE started) going.

Don't read her blog on the Bravo site, then-it's chock full of more of the same bullshit.  Teddi is another one who has really gotten a holier-than-thou attitude this season - clutching her pearls with those man-hands over how awful LVP is.

Edited April 3, 2019 by njbchlover

[Rosiejuliemom]

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I was remembering Lisa and Kyle when Lisa got stuck on the half-wall on a hotel room balcony (was that in Paris or Hawaii?)  I just remember the two of them laughing so hard at themselves, and remembering that theirs seemed like a true friendship (not a show-friendship), in spite of the disagreements they have also had.

That was Hawaii. They were trying to rouse Kim and the Gay Bull Mastiff.

[princelina]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

The accusations that Dorit is a "puppy dumper" and the disbelief that people could be threatening her kids is precisely why Dorit was right to be upset about this article. Many people lose all sense of rationality when it comes to animals. I have no doubt people are saying horrible things about Dorit's kids because that kind of thing happens all the time online with stories about pets, as Teddi rightly noted.

Is Radar Online that big of a thing?  Do they all wake up and immediately google themselves?  Would anyone know who Dorit even is if she weren't on this show?  I must say this makes me feel good about being a midwestern chub chub who's more interested in my work, church and family than celebrity tabloids.   (And obviously I'm using the word celebrity VERY loosely in this case)

36 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Exactly for the reason you think she is guilty.  We have rarely, if ever, seen LVP get truly upset or loud over anything.  I think that LVP's emotional outburst and upset were because she was so shocked that Kyle would not believe her when she was telling the truth.  I can't recall LVP being this upset over anything, and throughout the seasons, she's been accused of all kinds of things.  The only other time I recall her being this upset was when they were in Puerto Rico, and Brandi accused her of the whole tabloid thing.

I thought she was guilty then, but am unsure this time - if we were voting I think I'd go with Bravo production.

22 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

I don't think I've ever heard LvP call multiple HWs bitches multiple times in one episode before.  She is most definitely very angry.  I'm not convinced she is completely innocent; but I'm also not convinced she is as guilty as all the other HWs say she is.

Me too.  She's definitely not totally innocent here, and has always been MUCH better at dishing than taking, and I do feel bad for her that everyone is ganging up on her because that's not nice, and they should all know Dorit is a big fat liar.  But she's been shitty to Rinna in a "British humor" type way for several years, and Rinna took it with a laugh, so I understand why she is relishing her revenge for now.  I guess I enjoy the silly fights on here as much as everyone because I watch - but one person getting ganged up on by everyone isn't fun.  I agree Kyle chose the wrong side, but I do think she's as tired of LVP as the rest of them.  That being said - I'm with the poster who finds the Johns to be too everything, and I would NOT enjoy watching a show about them and the dogs.

[njbchlover]

1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

That was Hawaii. They were trying to rouse Kim and the Gay Bull Mastiff.

That's right - thanks for the memory nudge!!  

That was one of the funniest scenes in the Housewives, imo.  Lisa's bum getting stuck and Kyle couldn't help her because she was laughing so hard.  See~~this just makes me sad remembering it.  

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

30 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

The real victim in all of this is poor Giggy? Gidget? Giggity? the poor pile of fluff that Ken was hauling around in his arms while Kyle, Lisa, and Ken were yelling at each other. Not only does the poor thing probably have whiplash from the way he ran up the stairs to get the tablet to show Kyle the TMZ article that she already knew about but it's got little ears. Then again, I've never seen it do anything but blink and maybe yawn so I'm not entire sure it's alive. I guess maybe the swan(s) are the real victim(s) in this. Goodbye, favourite ankles to bite. 

No but seriously, is the dog surgically attached to Ken?

I don't see anything wrong with being cuddled. That is the strangest thing to  criticize 

[Rosiejuliemom]

Can we talk about why Harry is taking back-to-back trips to Canada?

All alone with a two person tent?

[Dance4Life]

Dorit sure twists things! 

Dogs are like swimming pools.......Never Leave Your Children Unattended.

[Reality police]

5 minutes ago, princelina said:

Is Radar Online that big of a thing?  Do they all wake up and immediately google themselves?  Would anyone know who Dorit even is if she weren't on this show?  I must say this makes me feel good about being a midwestern chub chub who's more interested in my work, church and family than celebrity tabloids.   (And obviously I'm using the word celebrity VERY loosely in this case)

I thought she was guilty then, but am unsure this time - if we were voting I think I'd go with Bravo production.

Me too.  She's definitely not totally innocent here, and has always been MUCH better at dishing than taking, and I do feel bad for her that everyone is ganging up on her because that's not nice, and they should all know Dorit is a big fat liar.  But she's been shitty to Rinna in a "British humor" type way for several years, and Rinna took it with a laugh, so I understand why she is relishing her revenge for now.  I guess I enjoy the silly fights on here as much as everyone because I watch - but one person getting ganged up on by everyone isn't fun.  I agree Kyle chose the wrong side, but I do think she's as tired of LVP as the rest of them.  That being said - I'm with the poster who finds the Johns to be too everything, and I would NOT enjoy watching a show about them and the dogs.

The girls in RHONY have talked about having Google alerts set for years. When they wake up every story with their name in it is all right there waiting. 

I'm with you, happy being my chub chub self in the gorgeous mountains of Tennessee. 

[njbchlover]

1 minute ago, Rosiejuliemom said:

Can we talk about why Harry is taking back-to-back trips to Canada?

All alone with a two person tent?

Did you also notice that when Harry wanted an update on his family first, Rinna didn't even mention the girls' names - she just went in on Denise Richards' wedding event planned in two days, and then, jumped to the dog drama - WHICH she has expressed to several people, including Erika and Denise, that she never again wanted to speak about.

Oh God, how much I hate that woman and her talking heads where she thinks she is soooo friggin' funny.  Vandertrump??  That was supposed to be funny??  

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

I don't see anything wrong with being cuddled. That is the strangest thing to  criticize 

I don't think that dog's feet have ever touched the ground. There's nothing wrong with being cuddled but I think it's weird that the dog is either tucked up under an arm like it's a football or laying on a piece of furniture looking like it's dead. Rich people are weird, yo. 

Anyway, the whole post was in jest. I wasn't really criticizing so much as trying to be funny.  

[Reality police]

5 minutes ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

I don't see anything wrong with being cuddled. That is the strangest thing to  criticize 

I took it as being in the midst of the yelling, kinda jerked around as Ken grabbed the laptop and in general being jostled around. He is pretty frail.

[MerisWetBar]

55 minutes ago, Pattycake2 said:

I think pk sold the story.  They pay MONEY for those items and since it was being filmed and all 400 vpd staff and volunteers and their friends and families knew the whole story, it was pk’s chance to grab some cash before anyone else.  Or, as I’ve proposed before, the Kemsley rarely paid staff took their well deserved revenge.

Let's see... Kyle told us that you have to look at who would benefit from the story, so imo the ones who would "benefit" are

1.Dorit--money and what she thought would be sympathy from the whole world but is really just misplaced sympathy from a bunch of Hi, I'm Teddi bitches. 

2. Effing Rinner. She would so totally sell that story just to try and take LVP down. Also money. 

[Rosiejuliemom]

4 minutes ago, I8A 4RE said:

2. Effing Rinner. She would so totally sell that story just to try and take LVP down. Also money. 

She'll do anything to make a buck.

[bravofan27]

Because of Lisa V actually advocating, and winning, for policy change, I am remarkably impressed. She's not just out there shaming people and waxing poetic about how precious dogs are to make herself seem like a savior. She actually got her cause heard in congress (NOT EASY AT ALL) and the bill passed. Truly impressive to actually make widespread change happen. Now hopefully the law will be enforced and not just something on the books. 

That was awesome though. I was really happy for her.