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S09.E07: Eat, Drink, and Be Married


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1 minute ago, janiema said:

Teddie is so upset because she has so publicly destroyed her business model on this show. She had previous knowledge of the dog situation and was rightly upset about it. Teddie was present when the subject was divulged on camera in the first episode of the season. I don’t remember Teddie “gossiping” about this. She just knew that it had happened. I also don’t remember Lisa telling Dorit that Teddie was “gossiping” - just that Dorit should get out in front of it. I think that conversation took place after the scene at VPD. Dorit is the one who accused Teddie of gossiping. The Rinna and Erika then bullied Teddie into that scenario. Teddie went wrong when she decided to look for someone to hold “accountable “ which is her mantra. The most bizarre was her mea culpa to Dorit holding herself accountable while telling an ever changing story.  And although she made an unnecessary apology her greatest sin was self righteously blaming everyone else for the story about the dog rather than blaming Dorit for her actions. Who needs a mixed up accountability coach like that?

Agreed, and I'm also so tired of all this "owning it" bs. Taking accountability is indeed an important part of an apology, but it's only one part. There also needs to be remorse and a sincere commitment to never repeating the behavior. So many of these HWs are not doing adulting right.

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6 hours ago, MrsWitter said:

Maybe I’m too trusting, but I also very much believed Lisa when she swore on her children. I agree she can be manipulative, but something about that felt real.

Also, not to peer pressure you, but I’m going to peer pressure you a little bit: did you start at the beginning of VPR? I think that’s key to enjoying the show. The first couple of seasons were majestic television. And, if it’s further enticement, Kristen is vegetarian and Billie is vegan. They’re probably not the best walking advertisements for our lifestyle, but I do think Billie might have helped get a couple of vegan items on the Sur brunch menu so there’s that.

Ditto about Lisa. I wonder if any of the women will end up apologizing to her. 

I actually did watch some when it was new. It was first by mistake, when they used Brandi and went from RH to VP. I watched some more of season 1 then little bits of the other seasons. It is awesome that there are vegans in the cast! I did not know that. If I get to go to LA this year, I’ll have to check out SUR if it’s vegan friendly. 🙂

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Though I don't doubt that Denise is happier without her marriage to Charlie, I think she has to feel like she missed an opportunity a bit. She probably thought she'd marry a guy just as rich and handsome (I think he's hideous, but others find him attractive) as Charlie, but it never happened. THis guy she married seems like he has no money whatsoever.

I think Denise is happy, content and thanking her lucky stars to be where she is now. Aaron may not be wealthy but he seems to love Denise and her kids. I find him much more attractive than Charlie. There’s also that big penis of his.....😉

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1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

Aaron may not be wealthy but he seems to love Denise and her kids. I find him much more attractive than Charlie. There’s also that big penis of his.....😉

Apparently the guy's a human tripod.

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Just have to say....  For me, the best and most entertaining moment of the episode was when Erika began complaining about the hot polyester in Rinna's cheap jumpsuit.  I literally laughed out loud...for a very long time! 

I agree with those of you who think it was beyond rude for the wedding guest to have been kept waiting for so long in the sun and heat.  It was uncalled for.  That said, I guess it is true that some people can move mountains if they put their mind to it.  The wedding was lovely.

I don't believe LVP was the one who planted the story.  Well, I don't WANT to believe she did it. 

I still cannot stand PK and his phony wife. 

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Mark me down for:  Aaron is creepy and controlling.

He moved immediately from one sort-of star to another sort-of star within minutes, basically pushing Denise to fast forward through a wedding, having her believe it's because of the 8/Infinity thing.  Um, like that's the only date of the year that has an 8 in it?

He's lovebombing her and her girls, with the necklaces, the super quick closeness, the urge to marry and move in.

It's not that he doesn't have money.  It's that he's moving in so quickly, from one woman who had money, to another woman who had money, without any room to breathe between.

Dirty John?  Maybe not quite that bad, but yes, it gives me similar chills.

I'll come back here and eat my words if, in 2 years' time, this thing doesn't blow up.

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I confess I don't understand Hollywood marriages and how they can casually associate with their exes. I would imagine that Denise Richards was smart enough to get a pre-nup and protect her assets.

I can only go by what I see on the screen and I see Aaron being an attentive and caring person who takes a special effort with her daughters. He doesn't seem like a camera whore to me as his response when the big pile on was shaping up was to say "I'm gonna hide."

Smart man.

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4 hours ago, Sterling said:

Mark me down for:  Aaron is creepy and controlling.

He moved immediately from one sort-of star to another sort-of star within minutes, basically pushing Denise to fast forward through a wedding, having her believe it's because of the 8/Infinity thing.  Um, like that's the only date of the year that has an 8 in it?

He's lovebombing her and her girls, with the necklaces, the super quick closeness, the urge to marry and move in.

It's not that he doesn't have money.  It's that he's moving in so quickly, from one woman who had money, to another woman who had money, without any room to breathe between.

Dirty John?  Maybe not quite that bad, but yes, it gives me similar chills.

I'll come back here and eat my words if, in 2 years' time, this thing doesn't blow up.

It was more than a year apart between filing for divorce (July 2016) and when he began dating Denise (Fall 2017). Even longer when you consider the separation before the divorce filing. Denise and Aaron dated for a year before getting engaged and then quickly got married soon after the engagement because his divorce was finalized (fall 2018). The timelines don't seem THAT quick to me. I know plenty of people who start  dating less than a year after a serious breakup. At least half of the people I know that are married knew their partner for less than a year before an engagement.

Denise describes him as being spontaneous so maybe his Achilles heel is that he falls in love very easily and would explain why he was ready to get married as soon as his divorce was finalized. If he were in the realm of the Dirty John type, I don't he would have settled his divorce by waiving all rights to spousal support whether present, future, temporary or permanent.

On the bare surface, I agree that he seems a bit shady but just some quick research on him and his story becomes more reasonable to me...and I guess there's also some positive thinking mixed in there that Denise had made a better choice in a partner this time around in life.

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10 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

It was more than a year apart between filing for divorce (July 2016) and when he began dating Denise (Fall 2017). Even longer when you consider the separation before the divorce filing. Denise and Aaron dated for a year before getting engaged and then quickly got married soon after the engagement because his divorce was finalized (fall 2018). The timelines don't seem THAT quick to me. I know plenty of people who start  dating less than a year after a serious breakup. At least half of the people I know that are married knew their partner for less than a year before an engagement.

Denise describes him as being spontaneous so maybe his Achilles heel is that he falls in love very easily and would explain why he was ready to get married as soon as his divorce was finalized. If he were in the realm of the Dirty John type, I don't he would have settled his divorce by waiving all rights to spousal support whether present, future, temporary or permanent.

On the bare surface, I agree that he seems a bit shady but just some quick research on him and his story becomes more reasonable to me...and I guess there's also some positive thinking mixed in there that Denise had made a better choice in a partner this time around in life.

We will have to agree to disagree.

Even if he had been divorced for 10 years, even before I got to "know" him and his story, I got a creeper/controlling/in-too-soon vibe.

As I said, I'll come back here and eat my words if it's still la-di-da rainbows and butterflies 2 years from now.

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3 hours ago, Blindfox said:

I couldn’t care less if Lisa did leak that story. If you don’t want to get called on doing shitty things, don’t do shitty things. Dorit is nothing but a dog dumper. I really don’t understand how any of these women thought Lisa’s leaking information about the dog would be worse than actually dumping the dog. How Dorit manages to make herself a victim and have other people support her in that is a mystery to me.

Holding LVP responsible for her self-serving manipulations is not the same thing as supporting Dorit - “If you don’t want to get called on doing shitty things, don’t do shitty things” applies to LVP too.

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11 hours ago, Sterling said:

We will have to agree to disagree.

Even if he had been divorced for 10 years, even before I got to "know" him and his story, I got a creeper/controlling/in-too-soon vibe.

As I said, I'll come back here and eat my words if it's still la-di-da rainbows and butterflies 2 years from now.

If it's just a vibe you get, fair enough -you can't always explain an instinct. I thought your opinion was based purely on the supporting points you raised which is why I brought up the timelines to demonstrate that he didn't jump from one celebrity woman to another 'within minutes'.

I'm indifferent to him at the moment. Maybe that will change as the season progresses.

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11 hours ago, Sterling said:

We will have to agree to disagree.

Even if he had been divorced for 10 years, even before I got to "know" him and his story, I got a creeper/controlling/in-too-soon vibe.

As I said, I'll come back here and eat my words if it's still la-di-da rainbows and butterflies 2 years from now.

You know, my intuition is screaming out weirdness on Aaron too. Yes there are supporting facts to me too... but. I’ve been right and wrong before intuition-wise. I am disarmingly fascinated by what will go down with Denise and Aaron. I can’t find anything on the guy besides his early acting jobs. Instead I will stalk his Instagram. I would say it has a roughly 64.8 accuracy rate.... 😂 I will be back.

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On 3/28/2019 at 6:05 AM, Jel said:

My dream scenario here is that Rinna and Teddi really, finally do get to experience Lisa's awesome powers of manipulation when she issues an ultimatum to Bravo that she will only return next season if Rinna and Teddi are fired.

That LVP would have that much power over the network and producers is exactly why we're in the situation with this show that we're in. 

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9 hours ago, nexxie said:

Holding LVP responsible for her self-serving manipulations is not the same thing as supporting Dorit - “If you don’t want to get called on doing shitty things, don’t do shitty things” applies to LVP too.

A good point. I still care more about the dog than Lisa’s manipulations, though.

I noticed when Dorit was tallying up the people who knew that dog was half Chihuahua she never mentioned the fictional woman she gave the dog to. I hate Dorit way too much to care about her being outed by anybody. 

I don’t think Lisa had anything to do with the story. Anyone who worked at her shelter would have had motivation to spread the story. People talk.

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3 hours ago, PerPlexied said:

That LVP would have that much power over the network and producers is exactly why we're in the situation with this show that we're in. 

What situation exactly? Kyle, Rinna and Teddi complaining that she manipulates people to do her bidding? (Which is really, Kyle, Teddi and Rinna have agreed to do things she's suggested. I have a hard time accepting claims of manipulation made by adults. If that's even true.) But let's assume that's true:

The preferable way out of this situation (for me) that we are in is to fire the women who make these claims, but as I said, that's my dream scenario.  I do think Lisa likely has more "influence" with Bravo, simply because she brings them more eyes to the screen and more money in the pocket, but the extent to which that pull translates to production decisions is largely overblown, imo.  Seriously, if she had all this control and influence, would we see them digging up clips from seasons ago that put her in a bad light?  Would we have half a season devoted to showing her as a behind the scenes manipulator, devising plans to make other cast members look bad?

Lisa is the one who has been done wrong this season.  If she's manipulating Bravo, she's doing it wrong.

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On 3/28/2019 at 4:13 AM, yourmomiseasy said:

How upset does everyone think Kyle is that Denise's wedding kept a party that was probably full of Agency logos off of TV?

I assumed Mauricio said no to that because he wanted his party to be nice for his business rather than the backdrop to a screechfest about something stupid 😄 

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44 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

And I assumed Mauricio was laying low, lest any ho'wife mention the lawsuits and shady real estate dealings - on camera.

1 hour ago, princelina said:

I assumed Mauricio said no to that because he wanted his party to be nice for his business rather than the backdrop to a screechfest about something stupid 😄 

Were any of the HWs invited to Mauricio's Agency party?

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On 3/28/2019 at 4:13 AM, yourmomiseasy said:

How upset does everyone think Kyle is that Denise's wedding kept a party that was probably full of Agency logos off of TV?

2 hours ago, princelina said:

I assumed Mauricio said no to that because he wanted his party to be nice for his business rather than the backdrop to a screechfest about something stupid 😄 

Or, maybe Mauricio and Kyle did not want an over-the-top party filmed while The Agency was working out a settlement for the lawsuit.  

ETA:  Again, Walnutqueen and I had the same thoughts - I really need to remember to read through the posts before replying!!  🤣

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32 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Again, Walnutqueen and I had the same thoughts

Ya really aorta see somebody about that.  I'm told intensive therapy can help.  ;~)

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On 3/28/2019 at 6:05 AM, Jel said:

My dream scenario here is that Rinna and Teddi really, finally do get to experience Lisa's awesome powers of manipulation when she issues an ultimatum to Bravo that she will only return next season if Rinna and Teddi are fired.

I was just thinking the same thing, except I also included DUHrit, Vyle and Erica. Keep LVP, Denise and Camille and get some new ladies to round it out, preferably three ladies who aren’t known to the other three. This current iteration is like rotten fish.

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Late to the game but the thing is all of these players are sidestepping that this "issue" is for production purposes.  You cannot say LVP is a manipulator and then not also say all of them are also doing the same thing.  The fourth wall goes up and down depending on each person.  They ALL are manipulating this for screen time and the Bravo production crew is loving it because other than Denise's wedding they are not really doing anything but lining their pockets.

They all have their reasons for everything they do and while I am not really an LVP fan the pack of jackals all going after her (save Camille and Denise) reminds me of the Jill / Bethenny crap - just show me real estate porn and trips to exotic places.

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On 3/28/2019 at 12:18 AM, NowVoyager said:

Also, ***& this has been documented*** Denise took in Charlie Sheen's 2 sons from his marriage with Brooke Mueller for a time. Brooke Mueller is from a wealthy family, she is on drugs as bad as Charlie Sheen & has spent a great deal of time in & out of expensive rehabs. Denise tried to take the boys in, but they were physically abusive to her girls, so she couldn't do it.

Denise even said on this episode (& it was documented on another reality show she did) that she had her father live with her for 6 years after he was widowed from his beloved wife of many years. So, the stuff about sweet little Eloise maybe kinda adds up...

I think Denise is one of those people who is a bit out there but is a real friend when you need one. 

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9 hours ago, TomGirl said:

I know it’s already been mentioned by many, but - just wow!62F028F3-9A10-48ED-AD2F-003BDBD0376D.jpeg.ec6941771c1d5346240ef3f7fc5a9cb8.jpeg

2 hours ago, ChitChat said:

I think that Camille usually looks great in her choice of attire.  She just knows what looks good on her.  I hope her new husband doesn't turn out to be the turd that Kelsey Gammer did.  I was very disappointed in him for leaving her like that.  Anyway, I hope Camille is doing okay since losing her house.  I'd much rather see her on this show than Teddi or Dorit.  

She knows what looks good on her AND what is appropriate for different events!  Whenever the camera pans quickly past her fiancé I always think for a second, "What's David Foster doing there?"

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1 hour ago, Slakkie said:

I think Denise is one of those people who is a bit out there but is a real friend when you need one. 

She was especially there for bestie Heather Locklear (to snap up Richie Sambora)! 😱 I like Denise but remember all the drama surrounding that. You love who you  love but I can imagine the betrayal Heather must have felt...and she seems to keep spiraling. Maybe she’s an asshole...I feel bad she’s turned into such a hot mess tho. 

Bring on Nicolette Sheridan, THAT would be awesome!! Talk about stirring it up! 

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3 hours ago, JD5166 said:

She was especially there for bestie Heather Locklear (to snap up Richie Sambora)! 😱 I like Denise but remember all the drama surrounding that. You love who you  love but I can imagine the betrayal Heather must have felt...and she seems to keep spiraling. Maybe she’s an asshole...I feel bad she’s turned into such a hot mess tho. 

Bring on Nicolette Sheridan, THAT would be awesome!! Talk about stirring it up! 

Let's have a nearly full cast shake up .

Get rid of Kyle, Teddi and Erika - LVP leaves and does her own thing.

Have Nicolette, Denise, Camille, Dorit and Rinna - just the 5 of them and a few 'friends'.   I know Rinna is a bloody pest at times but she's good entertainment.

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3 hours ago, JD5166 said:

She was especially there for bestie Heather Locklear (to snap up Richie Sambora)! 😱 I like Denise but remember all the drama surrounding that. You love who you  love but I can imagine the betrayal Heather must have felt...

Yeah - that's our darling Denise, who is like a shiny new penny - except, not so much when you flip it over and see the tarnish.  I admire her animal loving ways, but reserve the right to delay judgement until she shows her ass true colors.

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19 minutes ago, TVFANNO1 said:

Let's have a nearly full cast shake up .

Get rid of Kyle, Teddi and Erika - LVP leaves and does her own thing.

Have Nicolette, Denise, Camille, Dorit and Rinna - just the 5 of them and a few 'friends'.   I know Rinna is a bloody pest at times but she's good entertainment.

OMG No!   Please no Dorit and no Rinna.   

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Just now, AnnA said:

OMG No!   Please no Dorit and no Rinna.   

But you'd have to have some original ones on - they are the lesser of the evils 'cos they have very small brains IMO.

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3 hours ago, TVFANNO1 said:

Let's have a nearly full cast shake up .

Get rid of Kyle, Teddi and Erika - LVP leaves and does her own thing.

Have Nicolette, Denise, Camille, Dorit and Rinna - just the 5 of them and a few 'friends'.   I know Rinna is a bloody pest at times but she's good entertainment.

Nicolette and Rinna on the same show?  That would be an interesting combination.  

But, absolutely no, no, no to Dorit!!  

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23 hours ago, princelina said:

I assumed Mauricio said no to that because he wanted his party to be nice for his business rather than the backdrop to a screechfest about something stupid 😄 

I don't know, he sure seems to love having the Agency logo splashed all over the screen.  

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38 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I don't know, he sure seems to love having the Agency logo splashed all over the screen.  

Sure he does but that's different than having a group of women who don't even belong there ruin your party!  I'm just glad they were all able to behave nicely for Denise's wedding.

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On 3/27/2019 at 1:41 PM, VedaPierce said:

That story is outrageous and a hell of a lot more important and interesting than whether or not Vanderpump knew about Teddy knowing about bringing a dog out to make Dorit look worse than she does everyday!! If I was Vanderpump, I would come to the reunion with all the real Dorit dirt, cocked and loaded, and give it to her with both barrels. I’m sure there’s plenty of secrets she could spill on Kyle too. Since bravo refused to put the pool scandal in, Vanderpump should force it into the daylight. 

I'm confused about this entire season.  I know what Dorit did, which was all kinds of wrong.  Did LVP not want to talk about it on camera?  Who told Teddi?  Why did LVP text Dorit, "Teddi knows?"  

It would have been better if LVP just told Dorit off in the beginning of the season, the end case closed.  Did LVP want someone else to shade Dorit?  All of this cagey-ness and who said what to who and who knows what, etc is giving me a headache.

So are Dorit and her husband like the Salahis of Beverly Hills?

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On ‎3‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 9:52 PM, JD5166 said:

Patrick Muldoon will never not be hot! (Also maybe a little lifetime cool bad-dad).

Knowing my love for Patrick, my daughter gifted me with a copy of "A Boyfriend for Christmas", which I watch all year long.  

I thought it interesting that Lisa R said she didn't want to hear about "puppy gate" thus making sure we didn't forget.  That woman is a piece of work.  

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2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I'm confused about this entire season.  I know what Dorit did, which was all kinds of wrong.  Did LVP not want to talk about it on camera?  Who told Teddi?  Why did LVP text Dorit, "Teddi knows?"  

It would have been better if LVP just told Dorit off in the beginning of the season, the end case closed.  Did LVP want someone else to shade Dorit?  All of this cagey-ness and who said what to who and who knows what, etc is giving me a headache.

So are Dorit and her husband like the Salahis of Beverly Hills?

Could be!!  And, hopefully, they will be forced back into anonymity just like the Salahis.  I had forgotten about them until seeing your post - wonder were they are now?  

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40 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Could be!!  And, hopefully, they will be forced back into anonymity just like the Salahis.  I had forgotten about them until seeing your post - wonder were they are now?  

Michaele traded up, all things considered - she is now Michaele Schon, wed to the guitarist for Journey, with whom she had a long-term romantic relationship prior to marrying Tareq. 

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