Mama June: From Not To Hot: Seasons 1-6

[ShowsILoveToHate]

I think that Geno definitely is a bad guy, just based on the verbal abuse alone. Whether they showed us those clips or not, they happened. 

I agree that the show is trying to save MJs reputation (as much as she has one to save), but Geno is still a disgusting human being who has been nasty to June, and don’t forget the long sleeves that he and Big Mike have to wear because of their offensive tattoos. 

It’s been so sad to see her daughters crying over the situation. Go Lauren! for stepping up to the plate and getting temporary custody of Alana.  She seems to have the most common sense out of all of them, and the ability to see the bigger picture. 

I’m not someone who curses unless I stub my toe or something, but damn when that freak Jennifer opened her nasty, foul mouth about knowing that she knew June was “trash all along” I cursed out loud at my tv!  She’s got the most inflated/bloated sense of superiority that I’ve seen in a long time. Self-esteem is one thing, but speaking as if she’s this ultra pure and proper lady is so ridiculous. Does she think that anyone actually likes her or agrees with her?!

I can’t stand Sugar Bear but I was relieved that he didn’t give Lauren a hard time about temp custody, especially considering their past almost-brawl. Jennifer needs a fist in her face to shut her up. Figuratively, not literally. 

Oh, and I think that Geno got MJ onto hard drugs. Not saying that she didn’t do drugs, but crack is a whole other level. And from what I understand, one of the hardest addictions to overcome. 

For Alana and Lauren’s sake, I hope she’s one of the ones who makes it. 

[Monie]

12 hours ago, JoJoPowerRanger said:

Right?!  They made it sound as if June is addicted to Geno, and that Geno is the sole crackhead in the relationship, when everyone on Earth knows that was a joint undertaking.

June "needs to find herself" and "is so afraid of Geno" and that's why she needs "treatment." As if we didn't just watch her walk into the intervention higher than her "fat cake" bill. 

I think June is addicted to sex and creepy Geno has just what she needs...yikes!!😨

[alegtostandon]

It just really angers me that WE is still tagging this as 'Dating Abuse'.   As someone who was physically abused in a dating relationship then verbally threatened if I tell anyone or try to leave the relationship,  I find this offensive.  I'm not saying that Gino has not cheated on June.  Pumpkin even said in the show,  which I'm now watching,  that 'mama is afraid to be away from Gino because she can't monitor him.'.  Not because she's afraid of him & what he would do to get if she tries to leave.   This is more of an obsessive relationship, totally different.

I also do not agree that Gino got June hooked on drugs.   I got involved with drugs in my 20's.   I have no one to blame but myself.  No one held me down & forced the straw up my nose.  Mr. ToStandOn is a recovering alcoholic.  He has been sober for over 30 years.   He went through a 30 day in patient treatment program.   One of the very first things we learned is if you want help,  you need to take responsibility for your own actions and not blame others for choices you have made. I'm sure Gino did drugs but June made the choice to do them herself. 

Oh, now Jennifer says she has always thought Gino was a druggie.   Wasn't she singing Gino praises awhile back. 

Everything is someone else's fault... It was Sugar Bears fault now it's Gino's fault.   They need to look at the real common denominator... June. 

Edited June 1, 2019 by alegtostandon

[sempervivum]

13 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

I don’t think that’s the problem this go round. The entire episode has seen more scripted than usual. Very strange.

And because it cannot be said enough...

Yep. I thought it was very cagey the way the voiceover about the drug arrest specified that June claimed the drugs and paraphernalia were hers, not Geno's. Now seeing this latest gossip item, I don't think June is using drugs at all, and it'll be interesting to see how the producers/script writers square this circle next season. I do think there's some real psychological problem with June, and I don't see how Geno recovers his place in the family after this.

4 hours ago, alegtostandon said:

That niece sure is enjoying the spotlight.   Seems like she has a hard time containing her grin.  

She and Doe Doe are giving lip service to this storyline, but Doe Doe was smiling inappropriately all episode, and there were no tears in her eyes the one time she 'broke down'. And the niece was wearing like 5 inch stilettos, it's obvious she dressed up for her appearance in this drama.

OTOH, maybe Alana and Jessica haven't been let in on the real story- their distress seemed genuine to me.

[junemeatcleaver]

June's crazy and on drugs.  WE would have edited around June looking strung out and dope sick if it weren't for the arrest, they would have kept doing dumb shit like pretending June was sick from being possibly pregnant.

I also don't buy that Geno is a good guy.  Has June ever dated a good guy?  I mean Pumpkin said it was a lie that June was dating her daughter's molester, why would I take her word that drunken loser Geno is an alright gentleman?

I think what we got this season, or at least post-arrest, is a highly edited and filtered version of the truth.  The desperate, doped up, caring about herself and her man above everything June is the closest we'll ever get to seeing the real June.  The biggest lie is trying to make me believe June suddenly only became like that after she met Geno.

[georgiaonmymind]

Geno is no saint neither is Sugar bear,but they sure portrayed Geno as Mama June and Alana's knight in shining armor in the previous seasons..All of a sudden he's the devil in disguise and everything June does is his fault..She's put her kids safety at risk on numerous occassions,it seems to me a man means more than her kids and she willing to follow him to the depths of hell,that is all on Mama June,no one is holding a gun to her head forcing her to make stupid ,irresponsible choices...Wetv and her family can spin it any way they want,but June has to own June's problems and fix them herself,the family and this show need to own up to her drug use,stop ignoring and blaming others....they all need therapy because their whole life has been a mess....Alana needs to protected and stop being used for entertainment...its not funny,anymore.....

[Armchair Critic]

6 hours ago, alegtostandon said:

Hope you know I was being sarcastic.

Yes I knew you were being sarcastic, I got you. 😄 

And yes I I love to snark on this family but I do feel bad for June's daughters, especially Alana. My daughter is the same age and like Pumpkin said Alana may act too grown sometimes but she is still a kid.

[Whyyouneedaname]

Headed to the beach & pass Windcreek Casino & Resort, i had forgot where it was until we passed it. If June has to serve time she won't have to move far, Tutwiler Prison for Women is probably less than a mile down the road. 

[Armchair Critic]

2 hours ago, sempervivum said:

16 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

I don’t think that’s the problem this go round. The entire episode has seen more scripted than usual. Very strange.

And because it cannot be said enough...

Yep. I thought it was very cagey the way the voiceover about the drug arrest specified that June claimed the drugs and paraphernalia were hers, not Geno's. Now seeing this latest gossip item, I don't think June is using drugs at all, and it'll be interesting to see how the producers/script writers square this circle next season. I do think there's some real psychological problem with June, and I don't see how Geno recovers his place in the family after this.

So if June wasn't on drugs what do you think the real problem is? Is the real problem something even worse that they would rather have you think she is on drugs? I am interested in people's theories about that. 

I do think June has some  psychological problems and she was never actually a good mother. I'm sure those girls have seen some bad things although they try to put a good spin on it and Alana is young enough to be looking at it through rose colored glasses. Also for half of Alana's life they were on television so June had to keep it somewhat under control.

Edited June 1, 2019 by Armchair Critic

[itsadryheat]

Hard to figure out what is real and not real. Lots of oddly timed, inappropriate "smirking". Alana and Pumpkin's reactions seem sincere. June does appear high as a kite and lost.  Geno does appear like a crazed bully. But then these weird smirks show up from almost all of them. What a strange petri dish of humanity.

[alegtostandon]

1 hour ago, Armchair Critic said:

Yes I knew you were being sarcastic, I got you. 😄 

And yes I I love to snark on this family but I do feel bad for June's daughters, especially Alana. My daughter is the same age and like Pumpkin said Alana may act too grown sometimes but she is still a kid.

I feel horrible for the kids,  regardless of their ages.   It's very painful to watch a loved one go down this path.   It is totally out of their control.   They can do all of the interventions they want but nothing will work until June is ready to admit she has a problem... Which is more than Gino.   When my husband went into treatment,  they said up front 'if you are here for her,  you may as well leave right now,  you need to want help for yourself,  not to please another person.'  They then told me that I need to get help for myself,  otherwise every relationship I get into will be the same.  

June's sister needs to get it out of her head that she can save June by simply getting her away from Gino.   She claims that's how she saved her from Gummy Bear,  but all June did was move to another sick relationship. 

And Jennifer just needs to go away.  Who is she to make demands.   In the eyes of the law,  she is nothing more than a baby sitter.  We had to get legal forms giving me authority to get my step daughter medical care,  talk to schools,  etc.  And my husband had full legal custody. 

[JocelynCavanaugh]

What a mess this all turned out to be. I feel terrible for Alanna and Lauryn. Alanna may be known for being an overweight, uncouth child, but I think she is really a decent kid who’s a victim of her upbringing. We’ve seen her be sassy but never malicious or destructive, and she seems to be really attached to her family. I truly hope things get better for her. Lauryn is way too young to be dealing with all of this, but I commend her and Josh for taking care of Alanna while they’re still newlyweds with their own baby. 

Geno was definitely portrayed much better in the past, and I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. He’s kind of a low-level criminal junkie, but not an evil mastermind, and he’s been pretty clear with June all along that he didn’t want to marry or have kids with her. She’s the one who has chosen to cling to him like a bipolar barnacle. They both have culpability in this situation.

It was scary to hear June talk about how much she hates herself. She seems to know on some level that she’s made a lot of bad choices and squandered many opportunities, although she refuses to admit it on camera. On top of that, she’s got several health problems, including near-blindness that leaves her dependent on others. Her whole makeover ordeal was basically a waste of time, since she hasn’t done anything to maintain or keep losing weight, or take care of her hair or teeth. She looks awful, and she’s hung up on a guy with growths on his head and neck and possibly racist tattoos, who, sadly, seems to be her best catch yet. (He’s better looking than Sugar Bear, as are the vast majority of men, and so far we have no evidence of child molestation.) I don’t respect June very much but I still wouldn’t want to see her hurt herself or worse. 

What a bummer. This was supposed to be mindless entertainment and now I’m over here worrying about a 13-year-old I’ve never met. 

Edited June 1, 2019 by JocelynCavanaugh

[sempervivum]

54 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

he’s been pretty clear with June all along that he didn’t want to marry or have kids with her. She’s the one who has chosen to cling to him like a bipolar barnacle. They both have culpability in this situation.

x100 to your whole post, but this is the crux of it, imo. June presented herself from the beginning (I'm talking back in Extreme Couponing days) as pretty confident and driven, and must have aggressively pursued TV honchoes in order to earn her own show after Toddlers & Tiaras. That wasn't just dumb luck, and it's not something your random hillbilly could have pulled off.

She was with Sugar Bear for financial security and once she had her own, she dumped him. But Geno has been a different story. I agree that he's (shudder) a god compared to Sugar Bear, and I believe that she's really in love with him, in a very dependent and unhealthy way. She's lost all her confidence and self-respect, and really believes she can't be happy without him. I've been there, so I can buy this scenario.

However, that doesn't really make a great story line for a reality show. 'Can June regain her self respect and declare her independence from mean old Geno?' isn't going to grab viewers like drugs, violence and potential jail time.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

29 minutes ago, sempervivum said:

She was with Sugar Bear for financial security and once she had her own, she dumped him. But Geno has been a different story. I agree that he's (shudder) a god compared to Sugar Bear, and I believe that she's really in love with him, in a very dependent and unhealthy way. She's lost all her confidence and self-respect, and really believes she can't be happy without him. 

It’s sad but true, and it can happen to just about anyone. Look at Whitney Houston — far more talented, rich, and (to most people, anyway) beautiful than June, but she chose Bobby Brown and drugs for so long it became too late. It's tempting to place all the blame on Bobby for corrupting the sweet girl who sang in church, but Whitney was, as least at some point, a competent adult who knew that “crack is wack” and did it anyway. No doubt that was a HUGE factor in how her poor daughter’s life ended, too. Fortunately June’s daughters seem a little more resilient than Bobbi Kristina but nobody is in the clear just yet. And I’m sure Geno would be just delighted to learn he was the poor man’s Bobby Brown in this scenario. 

[jumper sage]

1 hour ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

What a mess this all turned out to be. I feel terrible for Alanna and Lauryn. Alanna may be known for being an overweight, uncouth child, but I think she is really a decent kid who’s a victim of her upbringing.

I don't watch this show but I do know about it and was cruising with the remote looking for something...................I could not believe the family get together dinner.  I am no skinny girl and could lose 20 pounds but that family is killing themselves and setting the kids up for obesity.  The only one not obese was the baby.  Their dinner was a hot mess.  They need a family nutritionist.  I can just guess at the sugar problems.  I too have to watch my sugar and changed my life IMMEDIATELY.  I have been in the 5s for years and will never go back to poor eating habits.  I won't even go into eating on couches.............

[Armchair Critic]

Whitney was doing drugs way before Bobby Brown. Although it may have escalated with the right (more like wrong) partner, same for June.

[Koalagirl]

While watching this mess I was glad they included the scene in the park where Alana and Lauryn were bantering on the bench. It seemed like a real sisterly moment.  (I hope I’m not being naive here) 

[newyawk]

I think it was an extraordinarily bad idea to try to put this intervention on camera, especially with June in this kind of a state.  Producers of shows like this need to recognize the line where taping needs to stop, and who can and can't handle something like this.  This intervention should have been attempted off-camera and addressed either after the fact or in references from other people on the show.

At this point they should forget about June and Geno and maybe just focus on the rest of the family, (Pumpkin, Josh, Alana and Ella) and maybe change the name of the show. June is clearly not in any shape to keep going with this. Though I might watch a series about her life behind bars, haha.

Also, dating abuse is not restricted to physical abuse. Mental and verbal abuse is abuse. And he was doing both to June. She has an addictive personality, but his behavior is not her fault. He's also taken advantage of her in a number of ways.  June and Geno's is an abusive relationship.

This was a heartbreaking episode and I felt terrible for Alana.

Edited June 2, 2019 by newyawk

[newyawk]

On 5/31/2019 at 9:20 PM, Armchair Critic said:

They talk about "treatment" but they make it sound like a spiritual retreat and not drug rehab

Because  June was so resistant they were trying to frame it as pleasantly as possible while trying to disguise why they were sending her.

[MyGiddyAunt]

That bottom feeder Dr. Ish getting Alana to "open up" on camera was exploitative.  

[alegtostandon]

17 minutes ago, MyGiddyAunt said:

That bottom feeder Dr. Ish getting Alana to "open up" on camera was exploitative.  

I'm not familiar with him so Googled him... He obviously loves the reality spot light too 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I doubt MJ had the saavy to find someone to pitch a reality show to, I'm guessing some of the producers from the original pageant shows saw her on that, thought she was a good draw for the audience, and the rest is history.

I doubt any intervention will work with MJ, because she doesn't want to get clean.   She's lost custody of her kid, she's facing drug charges, and she's still with Geno.    She's already left rehab once, if you can believe the rumors, so she's been given a chance to change.   

I feel sorry for her children, who are watching their mother show that she is again choosing something over them, and over getting her life back.  

[Raynedon]

11 hours ago, newyawk said:

Because  June was so resistant they were trying to frame it as pleasantly as possible while trying to disguise why they were sending her.

They were also trying very hard to disguise where they wanted her to go to keep protecting June's reputation.  I think June knew all along that drug rehab was on the table.  IMO, if they'd just been forthcoming with the whole story about her drug use it would have possibly been easier on June, the family, and everyone involved, but I think it was obvious June wanted that part kept quiet and they were trying to go along with her wishes and we all saw how that worked out. 

They danced around her drug use for how many episodes (and shooting days in real life)?  I don't think they did June or anyone else any favors with the way they scripted and produced this storyline - heck, I guess it was this whole season.

I call BS on June saying she can't leave Alabama until she's been to court.  I can't imagine any court not granting her request to be at home until her trial since she has a minor child she is responsible for.  IMO, there's no way she'd leave Geno in AL, or anywhere, alone while she was back in GA being a parent to her children. June's never put her children first.  I think WE producers know this and that's why they worded their statement about it the way they did.  They know what's up with her and they've subtly been letting viewers know they know by their statements while they play along helping her try to save face. 

Edited June 2, 2019 by rayndon

[Raynedon]

1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

She's already left rehab once, if you can believe the rumors, so she's been given a chance to change.   

Her leaving rehab after spending one night there was on the show.   

I agree with you about MJ not pitching the show.  Toddlers and Tieras producers most likely pursued the family to do a show with HBB, and the rest is history.  It brought the family more money than they knew what to do with, they became famous or infamous, depending on who you ask, and their lives/futures aren't that much better looking because of it all.  I think that's sad and shameful - I'm looking right at you MJ.  SMH   There were many people who tried to help her and the family and she never followed through with any of it.  Many people exploited her and the family and it's sad no one seems to have had much of a positive influence on her.  I guess her manager Gina was intended to assume the role of positive leader, giving constructive guidance, but June refused a lot of it and of course Gina was exploiting MJ and family like crazy anyway.  

What is it that drives people like Gina to put someone's health, reputation, and security second to making money, fame and furthering their careers?  Gina's not to blame for MJ's problems but she's certainly pushed and exploited this family when everyone watching could see it was not to anyone's benefit to continue - while professing to have the family's best interest at heart.  MJ's too naive and trusting and stubborn to have questioned this and sought guidance elsewhere.

I don't even know if it's possible, but when it was reported MJ was living at the casino, gambling, etc, I wished someone could have petitioned the court to appoint a conservator over her (like Britney Spears dad did with her) and her affairs, ie: money.  I'd imagine June's blowing thru it like unlimited fat cakes and her last concern is saving it for her and her children's futures.  

Sorry for rambling.  

Edited June 2, 2019 by rayndon

[thebigboot]

2 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I doubt MJ had the saavy to find someone to pitch a reality show to, I'm guessing some of the producers from the original pageant shows saw her on that, thought she was a good draw for the audience, and the rest is history.

I doubt any intervention will work with MJ, because she doesn't want to get clean.   She's lost custody of her kid, she's facing drug charges, and she's still with Geno.    She's already left rehab once, if you can believe the rumors, so she's been given a chance to change.   

I feel sorry for her children, who are watching their mother show that she is again choosing something over them, and over getting her life back.  

She did not lose custody of her kid, yet. Since the courts didn’t mind her shacking up with pedo with kid in tow why would this bother them?

[CrazyInAlabama]

It may not be an official loss of custody, but as long as Alana is in a safe home, that's better than being with MJ.    

Edited June 7, 2019 by CrazyInAlabama

[Absolom]

Presumably MJ signed for Lauren to have temporary guardianship.  By doing that, she can keep Alana out of CPS interest unless something worse than what is going on now happens.

[rachel1496]

On 5/31/2019 at 10:48 PM, Madding crowd said:

Jennifer needs to shut up. Who is she to demand report cards and to be informed if Alanna misses school. I think Sugar Bear would be fine with seeing his daughter once in awhile despite what they say on TV. Glad Pumpkin is helping her sister.

I was actually shocked by how reasonable those requests were, given who made them.  I doubt SB cares about her report cards either way but just asking to see proof she's still attending isn't too much and it's something Pumpkin probably would have done anyway if they had asked.

Do we know how long Alana has been out of school?  I shudder to think of MJ homeschooling anyone and I'm dubious about how much Alana was actually learning so hopefully it hasn't been too long and she's not too far behind.  I'm glad that Pumpkin started with getting her back into school, she needs to be there.

[Madding crowd]

The requests would be reasonable from a concerned father but neither Sugar Bear nor Jennifer have shown any interest beyond SB wanting occasional visits. Jennifer in particular has been cold to Alanna except when she could use her to get back at June.

I assume Alanna was homeschooled while she was on Dancing with the Stars; hopefully she can go back now.

[Rebky]

Pumpkin was a lot more controlled than I would have been in that situation.  I would have immediately told Jennifer that I was not addressing her, she has no say, and that she'd better stay in her lane. Gummy Bear just sat there like a knot on a log while Jennifer was making demands.  Ah hell naw.

[Major Bigtime]

The producers of this show should be taken out and shot. Alana and others in the family will be hounded for the rest of their lives for being part of this shitshow.

June is an addict, and has many other issues. Now everyone should understand why this family and their hangers-on have to sign a huge contract relieving the production company of any liability for anything shown on TV.

[StitchPunk]

4 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

The producers of this show should be taken out and shot. Alana and others in the family will be hounded for the rest of their lives for being part of this shitshow.

Nobody is being forced into it. The producers are just doing their jobs, just like anyone else. They're not holding them hostage or anything. I highly doubt the producers have even remotely as much control over anything as people think. They have people above them too. They're trying to support their families just like any other job. It's not like they're telling people to do terrible things or put their kids on tv.

[rachel1496]

17 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

I assume Alanna was homeschooled while she was on Dancing with the Stars; hopefully she can go back now.

DWTS filmed during the summer so the kids wouldn't miss school/work.  Alana would have been back in Georgia in plenty of time for school to start.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I suspect Alana was taken out of school and started online school to allow easier filming for MJ:FHTN. With the season's filming over, she can go back to regular school which would help her have connections both outside the family and with people her own age.   I feel for her; she is still a child and caught in the middle of a horror show. 

[sempervivum]

20 hours ago, Rebky said:

Pumpkin was a lot more controlled than I would have been in that situation.  I would have immediately told Jennifer that I was not addressing her, she has no say, and that she'd better stay in her lane.

Huh. It's almost like they both knew how the situation was going to end. Jennifer is a better actor than Lauryn, though.

[Cowgirl]

On 6/2/2019 at 4:08 PM, Absolom said:

Presumably MJ signed for Lauren to have temporary guardianship.  By doing that, she can keep Alana out of CPS interest unless something worse than what is going on now happens.

Yeah, I agree, or MJ signed a power of attorney for child care. POAs don't need court approval, at least in my state, while temp. g'ship is a court proceeding. I kept thinking that whatever Lauryn had Gummy Bear sign was just for t.v. because it doesn't seem like he has legal or physical custody of Alana. 

I'm surprised at Alana wanting to go back to school -- if she was getting teased or bullied before, does the family think it will actually be better now? Now that her mom has been exposed as a druggie?  

And, I also call shenanigans on MJ not being allowed to come back to Georgia.  If she would quit firing her attorneys (Did she fire more than one?) any one of them could have gotten the conditions of her bond changed so that she could leave the state.  She just doesn't want to leave Geno. 

Edited June 5, 2019 by Cowgirl

[Absolom]

Some districts require guardianship to enroll a child in school.  But with this group, who knows?

[Angeltoes]

1 hour ago, Cowgirl said:

I kept thinking that whatever Lauryn had Gummy Bear sign was just for t.v. because it doesn't seem like he has legal or physical custody of Alana. 

He isn't even on her birth certificate.  He has about as much legal voice in Alana's life as I do.  It's my suspicion that he's not even her biological father.

[Sile]

I'm not sure if Alana was even on the pageant circuit before her T&T episode.  I seem to remember reading somewhere (maybe on TWoP) that June had tried to pitch herself for some extreme couponing show and TLC thought the family would be better suited for T&T.

Her stockpile of condiments and dry goods were probably window dressing when she was trying to present herself as a couponer, because outside of maybe one shopping trip and the comments about "Mama's (whatever they called the stockpile)", that was pretty much dropped from the storylines.

[silverspoons]

9 hours ago, Cowgirl said:

I'm surprised at Alana wanting to go back to school -- if she was getting teased or bullied before, does the family think it will actually be better now? Now that her mom has been exposed as a druggie?  

I was wondering if she was going to a different school based on Pumpkin's address. Hopefully a fresh start at a new school with a good teacher that understands ahead of time what is going on will make the difference. 

My son's best friend changed schools to the school the sister wives kids went to and he did not know who they were (as in a TV family, he knew one of the kids had run for a student government position and one was on a sports team when I mentioned the names).  Some kids just do not seem to care about what parents do even if it is scandalous like drugs, sadly my daughter says it is all too common that parents have issues with drugs these days maybe more then kids if you count the pills issues. I live in conservative area of Utah and several parents with large families have gone to jail over pills addictions and and the kids are actually really nice to the kids and sometimes glare at us adults for gossiping about the parents. Lets hope Alana got a great teachers and great classmates!

My worry is high school starts this fall for Alana? I hope someone?? is there to guide her to take the classes she needs. Pumpkin did not finish, not sure Doe Doe did? Sugar bear did not finish. I hope there is someone who can find what Alana is good at in school and make sure she is taking the right classes. Doesn't Georgia like some other states have free either community college if you get certain grades in high school? I hope I heard right, we have that here in Utah, I just hope there is whatever way out of the cycle Jessica got for Alana too. 

[ShaNaeNae]

18 hours ago, Angeltoes said:

He isn't even on her birth certificate.  He has about as much legal voice in Alana's life as I do.  It's my suspicion that he's not even her biological father.

I know it's not admissible as a paternity test, but she is a spittin' image of SB. Especially when she was much younger.  I said it back in the TWOP days, but Sugar Bear has always reminded me of this guy.  It's all I see.  For years. 

[itsadryheat]

On 6/5/2019 at 3:14 PM, Cowgirl said:

I'm surprised at Alana wanting to go back to school -- if she was getting teased or bullied before, does the family think it will actually be better now? Now that her mom has been exposed as a druggie?  

I had the same thought. And what (public) school would she go to that doesn't know who she is. She's a kid, wanting something "normal".

[Armchair Critic]

I think Alana just wants to be back with her friends. Was Alana actually getting bullied or did June just find it easier to keep her at home? My sweet SIL who is a bit sheltered recently became a kindergarten teacher and has been shocked when a child misses school and the parent tells her they had a late night the night before so that's why the child didn't make it into school.

[Koalagirl]

On 6/2/2019 at 12:31 PM, MyGiddyAunt said:

That bottom feeder Dr. Ish getting Alana to "open up" on camera was exploitative.  

By no means am I defending Dr. Ish, but Mama June and Sugar Bear were on Marriage Boot Camp a few years ago so maybe it was felt he could help a bit since he knew what this poor kid had probably been dealing with.  Agreed it should have been done more privately though.

[merylinkid]

On 6/2/2019 at 1:34 PM, rayndon said:

MJ's too naive and trusting  lazy and stubborn to have questioned this and sought guidance elsewhere.

Fixed it for you.    Remember back on HBB they sent a nutritionist to help the family?   Mama just complained all they did was give her a bunch of papers and didn't help.   She wanted a personal chef so she wouldn't have to cook or even think about what a carb is or proteins or anything like that.    

She won't get clean because its effort on her part.   She wants someone else to do all the work while she gets all the rewards.  

I hope they cancel this show because MJ is definintely not hot and Alana needs a normal life to save herself.

[silverspoons]

I was just thinking, do you think Alana was paid in her name for DWTS? I wonder how much she got paid for that and hopefully all that money is in her name. 

It is also interesting to go back and watch  pre season interviews. They were all Pumpkin and Alana (last year June had just had eye surgery but still made all the interviews). The previews shown were all about the June vs Jennifer and DWTS, no hints of a problems with June or Geno?

[teapot]

What stuck out to me most is the lack of basic manners.  (I know...) but when Gina said, "Pumpkin, you're really doing a good job with your sister, if you need anything I'm here," Pumpkin said “Kay bye."

then when Jennifer said, "We want Alana to stay with you", Pumpkin just grabbed the page and walked away.

are the words "thank you" not very popular where they're from? 

Edited June 11, 2019 by teapot

[thebigboot]

Insane video with Geno slamming SUV into garage

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

17 minutes ago, thebigboot said:

Insane video with Geno slamming SUV into garage

I just saw this as well, pretty inebriated and this f*cker was driving ? He could have killed people. He can barely stand. This is disgusting - they are disgusting

[Guest]

Looks like that restraining order is really serving its purpose.

They deserve each other.

Can't wait to hear how WeTV will yet again spin this into a "poor June" story.