S06.E13: Win, Place, Or Sonja

[Tara Ariano]

Aviva's father delivers shocking news to his 25-year-old girlfriend, and LuAnn hosts a weekend getaway of horse racing and partying, leading to rising drama when Sonja celebrates a little too much.

[technorebel]

Here's my best guess for the shocking news

"Honey, I know you think I'm a virile hunk of a rich dude, but I'm almost 80, I've spent all my money, and my doctor says I can't use Viagra anymore because of my heart condition. Also, I said I didn't want you to have a baby until you're 35 because I hope to be dead by then so I won't have to deal with the brat. Now let's get this wedding on the road."

[Grneyedldy]

I think George would have his whole body frozen except his dick if it meant his dick would still work. He probably has Viagra coming out of the kitchen tap. I have no idea what his surprise is, but I'm betting it has something to do with his dick.

[bosawks]

The only thing that could shock me about George would be if he was actually a nice guy.

[Persnickety1]

 

The only thing that could shock me about George would be if he was actually a nice guy.

 

Or if those chompers were his natural teeth.  

Edited June 3, 2014 by Persnickety1

[izabella]

Maybe George shocks his bride-to-be by demanding she sign a pre-nup?  Or tells her that his grandkids are getting all his money when he dies?

 

Oooh, or maybe he's had a vasectomy, so she won't ever be able to have kids with him?

[tinaw]

He's finally confessing to the STD he contracted.

[LilaFowler]

"Lu, with that little jockey laying next to you, you could roll over and kill him."

 

I actually snorted.

Edited June 4, 2014 by candy moocher

[Lakewood27]

This was a very hilarious episode! So many great moments.

Sonja's TH where she discusses George freezing his sperm. It was a brief moment, but it's made extra funny because she's got like 4 drinks going.

Lu Ann snorting when Sonja suggests betting $2 because that's what the old money crowd does. Poor Sonja. She hasn't been "old money" in almost 2 decades. Her betting style was totally nonsensical, as Carol mentioned. It's like investing in penny stocks and expecting to recoup millions.

I am effing sick of Kristin's reaction "O" face. She does it ALL THE TIME.

I don't need Aviva in my life. Or George.

How was Ramona's foot-in-mouth parents faux pas, racist?? That confused me.

[JAYJAY1979]

WOW, some cringe worthy moments mixed with some fun moments... something Beverly Hills should have thought of doing during their previous season.

[Rhetorica]

As reprehensible a Ramona is, I would rather spend time with her than any other individual at that engagement party. I'm far from a prude but Carol talking about George's fiancee squirting, Aviva bringing up her dead mom looking down, Kristen's right of passage by being felt up, and disgusting George himself I couldn't spend 30 seconds there. 

[phoenix780]

I skipped the last two episodes, fought my way through some of this one.  It's feeling a little repetitive.  Sonja and/or Ramona does something scandalous, the other women react.  Yay. 

 

It's weird, I actually like this cast, but I'm not seeing them as particularly interesting to watch.  I don't need to see brawls (at least I don't think so), but they're all kinda ordinary, imho.

[HunterHunted]

The saddest thing about Sonja's $2 bets is that the other ladies bet $30 each to pull in 26 times what they bet. Sonja probably bet $30 (well $20 cause it's Sonja) across all of her bets. And the others were right, Sonja got huffy because she lost, wandered off, and got drunk. I loved that all of the girls wanted to take pictures with the cash fan.

The engagement party ugh. Any George is too much. Why does Ramona's gay friend always have to hold her up like she's one pinot away from toppling over? This episode also featured another garbage Ramona apology, but George's bizarre protests about racism overshadowed how crappy it was to say that George was preying on his young orphaned fiance.

[mayboo79]

Do Carole and George see the same dentist? 

[CheekyCharlie]

Ramona is a hideous, horrible person!  Poor Cody, her engagement party and she has to put up shit from a person she doesn't even know, how dare her ask her why she is marrying George, it's none of Ramona's damn business.

[ATWTer76]

Crazy and filter-less as she is, I still like Ramona. May be in minority on that, but I do. And to whomever mentioned Kristen's bug-eyed, gaping-mouth "O" face, THANK YOU! Thought I was the only one annoyed by that. So tired of seeing her do that ALL the time! Honestly, I wouldn't be too broken up if Kristen and her overplumped lips didn't return next season.

Oh, and am I the only one or is anyone else getting tired of Heather's holla/baby/bitches/mama/that's-how-we-roll hip-hop/street-talk schtick? She seems to be trying too hard to act "cool." The hip-hop schtick is overdone, IMO, and kinda grates after awhile.

Am really surprised/disgusted by Bravo's powers-that-be putting George on. He's a vile, gross, filthy, disgusting, lecherous, molesting pig. Why aren't they concerned about sexual harassment/assault lawsuits?

Oh, and watching Sonja have a drunk meltdown? Not funny or entertaining at all. Sad. :(

I miss the old RHONY from way back when. :(

[MyAimIsTrue]

I never thought anyone (or anything) could get me to side with George but Ramona almost did.

 

Loved Sonja's bedhead hair when she returned to the house.  Seemed obvious to me that someone had been rolling in the hay.

[charming]

The only way I can tolerate George is believing that the producers are egging him on promising him money & camera time. I refuse to believe that any rational person goes around speaking this way in public.

 

Ramona is losing it. Sonja is losing it. Very sad to watch these women meltdown but act so cluelessly defiant. Ramona has no respect for anyone. I didn't like seeing how she hurt Cody's feelings. She's so rude. It's one thing to pick fights or make comments with women that you actually know and have history with. Cody is a stranger to her.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Oh, my god. This episode is pretty hilarious. Ramona asking, "Should we just give you a newborn to do?"

"He's not a pedophile. He's a pervert, but he's not a pedophile."

I did like Ramona's suggestion that if he really loved Cody, he would let her go so that she could enjoy life to the fullest. Surprisingly intelligent and sensitive.

"It's not nice that you call him lecherous." Really, Aviva? Really?

Loved the huge pale pink hat that Kristin was wearing when Sonja showed up. Gorgeous.

[car54]

So time wise, I'm thinking this drunk Sonja lines up with the pictures of her drunk in the Hamptons last summer looking really bad. 

I wish George wasn't so damn nasty so she could marry him for all his money and not be broke and scared like this.   It's hard to watch.

I think LuAnn really kind of hit bottom after her divorce, and getting caught on camera with the pirate, and I think she and Jacques are faking it for filming.   Now she seems to be having a real upswing in her life, and it's not because of who she married--she's got some design stuff, and she seems really happy for the first time on the show.  I always felt like she had such a big mask on when she was "the Countess".

[Trooper York]

I have to agree with Ramona. If you really love somebody you have to let them go.

 

Ramona.....LET MARIO GO!

[LotusFlower]

Honestly what the fuck is wrong with Ramona? I literally cannot think of a single circumstance in which it would be appropriate to say to someone you just met "So you have no parents." That woman is a sociopath.

I think she might be somewhere on the Asperger's spectrum (undiagnosed), because she not only talks without a filter, but she does it all the time and doesn't understand why it's not ok.

Also, George is disgusting. So is Aviva. She clearly loves having him on the show as her foil. If Bravo is interested - I turn the channel whenever George is on my tv.

[Grneyedldy]

Count me as another that is sick of the Kristin "O" face. I was so grossed out watching George pawing her. I would love to see one of the ladies knee him hard in the groin. Or maybe one of the husbands could just shoot him and then he would go away.

I find it hard to believe that Cody doesn't care about George's money since they met on a Sugar Daddy site. So she signs up as a Sugar Baby, but it's his intellect and sex that she loves? Yeah right. I don't believe there will ever be a marriage. I wonder how much George is paying her, she obviously has a price.

[Trooper York]

I was in Easthampton on Memorial Day weekend and I didn't see any of the Real Housewives. That was very disappointing.

 

I thought for sure I would run into Ramona in the pinot section of the liquor store.

[rustyspigot]

I would be wary if Ramona shows up with flowers f I was any other person on the show this season.

 

So Carole goes and hides when Sonja has her drunk hysterics? While I would do the same this is a TV show and I want at least a reaction shot.

 

Luann continues to be fun and still gets her digs in on the other ladies without being a screaming harpy.

 

I loved hat store workers nervous reactions to everyone.

[Wendy]

"He is a pervert, not a pedophile" - wtf

Why in holly heck would anybody want to have a child with this horrible man?

[Persnickety1]

On the west coast and can't watch this until I'm off work (ugh 2-1/2 more hours and counting)....

 

Is this the episode where Sonja passes out at the dinner table, or is this another drunken Sonja escapade?

 

Damn paying my bills interfering with my Bravo addiction!!!!  

[HunterHunted]

I also like to believe that drunken Sonja pulling her best poor man's Ramona dragged her bags out to the lawn awaiting her plane to the Hamptons. The others just shove her into the car for the night on the town and tell her she's got an aisle seat.

Edited June 4, 2014 by HunterHunted

[Suck It Trebek]

Ramona is certifiable, but George telling her what he was going to do to her body when she was dead was sick and reprehensible. Disgusting. Get him off my screen!

P.s. Why exactly does Sonja insist on making it sound like LuAnn is as big as a house? This time, it was about the jockey. Eesh.

[Miss February]

The women all looked lovely in their hats when trying them on at the hat shop, but I didn't think any of the hats they all ended up wearing to the horse track were flattering.  

 

Although Ramona clumsily expressed herself, I do understand her desire to want to talk anyone, even a perfect stranger, out of marrying George. 

[Persnickety1]

 

P.s. Why exactly does Sonja insist on making it sound like LuAnn is as big as a house? This time, it was about the jockey. Eesh.

 

I recall last season during the London trip Sonja also was on a bitchfest about LuAnn being tall and therefore she should stand back and let the other shorter women enter a room before she did.  She's had a bug up her drunken ass about LuAnn ever since, I think.  Kind of like with the t***** comment she made to her in the Hamptons.  

Edited June 4, 2014 by Persnickety1

[movingtargetgal]

"He is a pervert, not a pedophile"

 

Aviva you are wrong, the way George grabbed Kristen's wrist so she could not get away before he grabbed her breast is an act of a SEXUAL PREDITOR.

[urusai]

She should have slapped the shit out of RaMOANa.  Who does she think she is?  

I think RaMOANa, Marryoh and the gay husband have threesomes all the time.

 

 

P.s. Why exactly does Sonja insist on making it sound like LuAnn is as big as a house? This time, it was about the jockey. Eesh.

 

Don't forget the crack about LuAnn having a pumpkin head.

Edited June 4, 2014 by urusai

[Miss February]

It's bad enough to listen to Aviva engage her father in sexual conversations, but tonight we watched her attend his engagement party at a raunchy sex museum where she also seemed quite comfortable, even giving a tearful toast.  This father-daughter relationship is one for the books.

[izabella]

"It's not nice that you call him lecherous." Really, Aviva? Really?

 

Especially since she called him a pervert a few minutes later.  I guess pervert is nicer than lech? 

 

Sexual predator is definitely the right label for George.  He has no right to go around grabbing boobs, and poking people with his erections.  I guess these women are making allowances for his age and for Aviva's sake, but honestly, would they allow anyone else to touch them like than and just go running off with a laugh?  I'll bet not. 

[phoenix780]

Aww, you guys take George too seriously.  A doddering old man alternately yelling at and groping women is adorable!  [/sarcasm]

 

Aviva's pretty sick to keep dragging him on television.  When I'm old and senile, I hope someone cares for me enough to lock me away.

[izabella]

It's bad enough to listen to Aviva engage her father in sexual conversations, but tonight we watched her attend his engagement party at a raunchy sex museum where she also seemed quite comfortable, even giving a tearful toast.  This father-daughter relationship is one for the books.

 

Aviva also felt comfortable enough to ask a near stranger, her father's new fiancee, about her sex life with her father.  On television.  And sat there listening to how "good" he was in bed.  I just can't with Aviva.  That is so messed up. 

[SFoster21]

If I felt his erection in my rear, I would instantly stomp his instep with my stiletto!

If I felt his erection in my rear, I would instantly stomp his instep with my stiletto!

[KicksandGiggles]

So Carole goes and hides when Sonja has her drunk hysterics? While I would do the same this is a TV show and I want at least a reaction shot.

 

 

When she came back into the kitchen, she looked baked to me. I assumed she went out back and smoked a bowl.

 

Loved the impromptu picnic in the park, complete with a linen tablecloth, European lunch, and a blush wine. So OTT, yet adorable - only on RHoNY.

 

George. There are just no words. He actually made me want Ramona to throw something at him; like a brick; to the skull.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Honestly what the fuck is wrong with Ramona? I literally cannot think of a single circumstance in which it would be appropriate to say to someone you just met "So you have no parents." That woman is a sociopath.

 

Yeah, that was amazingly cruel & thoughtless -- for any other human being on the planet -- except for the Moaner.  Just another day in the life for her.  Btw, George's comments about her saying these comments cuz she's racist made no sense.  She does this sorta thing to anyone near her.  She may be racist.  I have no idea.  But she didn't say these comments cuz of being racist. This is who she is -- tactless, thoughtless & incredibly, exceptionally cruel. 

 

Anyone catch when they were all laughing hysterically when someone (maybe Harry) said Sonja willing backed into George's boner?  Ha, ha, ho, ho, hee, hee.  Since when is being sexually molested hilarious?  Kristen seemed to think it was hilarious too that George felt her up.  WTF?  I woulda smacked that slimy grin right off the old freak.  The producers of this show (Andy Cohen, lookin' right at ya) have a very, very fucked up sense of humor.

 

There were some funny moments in this ep, but there was way, way, way too much Veevs & George for me.  And George's comment to Moaner about licking his finger & touching her vagina was not hysterical to me.  Just nasty & disrespectful.  Hey, I get it.  These producers think George is just one great big bundle of funny.  I wonder how many viewers agree with them.  I sure as hell don't.

 

Sonja just continues to make a fool of herself, but she is pretty entertaining.

 

Veevs was mostly sorta mellow in this ep, altho maybe a bit sneering in her TH's & to the Moaner.  Next week, looks like lunatic Veevs is back, this time attacking Lulu.  Should be interesting to see how Lu deals with Veevs' raging nasty craziness.

Edited June 4, 2014 by ScoobieDoobs

[ScoobieDoobs]

Wow, I must really be over Carole cuz I thought her latest Bravo blog is really lame & unfunny.

[tvallthetime]

George's comments horrified me and would have made me uncomfortable. He's not funny at all; he's why the term "sexist pig" exists. He's like a disgusting relic.

[motorcitymom65]

I cannot believe I am going to say it, but I was completely rooting for George when he was talking to crazy Ramona.  IMO he wasn't nearly as hard on her as I would have been. He just let her go on and on about something that was none of her business. It would be one thing if Ramona actually gave two shits about either George or Cody, and was actually concerned for their future. Since she is not, her intrusion was just stupid, like everything else about Ramona. 

 

She looked terrible in that frock she came to the party in - terrible. 

 

Has Ramona always waddled? I noticed it for the first time during the spa scene when she waddled away after throwing her champagne at Kristen. It was on full display when she was leaving the scene of her latest crime at the engagement party. Not a good look when you are surrounded by ladies who are for the most part very graceful. 

 

And what is with Sonja and Aviva and their sudden close friendship? I found it strange that Sonja was standing at the front of the room with Aviva when she made her toast. I would expect to see her husband by her side at that moment, not someone who basically accused her father of assaulting her. 

[Diane Mars]

Regarding Georges, I don't understand why anybody ever gab his balls et torn them, while looking at him in the eyes with a big smile ! Really ! I did it, more than once, and it's really efficient lol ! Disgusting, OK, but so powerful !

[motorcitymom65]

She should have slapped the shit out of RaMOANa.  Who does she think she is?  

I think RaMOANa, Marryoh and the gay husband have threesomes all the time.

 

 

Don't forget the crack about LuAnn having a pumpkin head.

The Countess is a much better friend to Sonja than Sonja is to her. 

 

I wonder if there is not a fair amount of jealousy on Sonja's part here.  To some extent both of these ladies had their social identity tied to their husbands, who were old and rich. In both cases they were left by these men, and probably in both cases got less in their settlements than they thought they deserved. Yet Lu just got on with the business of living her life. She found a hot guy who seemed to care about her, and while she no doubt had to down size her standard of living, she doesn't sit around bitching and moaning about it. Even on the trip last year, Sonja had to settle for Lu's sloppy seconds with the pirate. I believe that by the time this show was filmed, Lu had already launched her plastic tableware on QVC without a lot of fanfare. Sonja on the other hand had yet to get one of her many silly projects off the ground.  Lu is doing stuff, while Sonja is just talking about it. 

 

Bravo is clearly setting us up for the time when Harry ditches Sonja for Lu.  This should be all kinds of delicious.  

[Lakewood27]

If I felt his erection in my rear, I would instantly stomp his instep with my stiletto!

If memory serves, Sonja was laying on a daybed and George got up behind her and gave her a poke. She looked completely taken aback and embarrassed. There is no way she "backed into" that creep's Viagrafied slim jim.

Sure, Ramona stuck her foot in it at the engagement party, but I feel like George et al blew it way out of proportion. Some of Ramona's concern trolling this season is her projecting her fears about Avery leaving the nest. And on some subconscious level, Mario stepping out with a young skank.

Not that I think she insulted Cody on purpose, but Ramona looked grossed out and uncomfortable from the second she arrived at the Museum of Sex. Seeing how she and Mario beat a hasty retreat the second Cody ran to the bathroom, it just looked very well coordinated.

[bosawks]

I find myself incapable of being on George's side about anything, I'd disagree with him if he told me the Titanic sank.

[Grneyedldy]

I almost forgot about one of my favorite scenes........

Sonja struggling to ride the bike up hill and saying she felt like Elvis on the toilet.

[SFoster21]

Yeah, that was a good one, Sonja!

[Lucygirl2]

Honestly I don't know where to even begin anymore...

 

Ramona was completely thoughtless to that young woman, especially at her engagement party where she is surely missing her parents.

 

George is so disgusting vile.  I still can't believe what he said to Ramona about touching her vagina at her funeral.

 

I can't fathom dating someone who was born while I was well into my 50s, so while George isn't technically a pedophile since Cody is over 18, he is not far off the mark in my eyes.  He is the type of guy who waits until the stroke of midnight on your 18th birthday to start playing grab ass.