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chitowngirl
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Having BBT money means the actors don't have to be the lead. They can be in a Hidden Pictures or a Florence Foster Jenkins and have the resume of being a reliable, good character actor. 

jeffwildstar
jeffwildstar

Hello, I am the artist that does the robot girl images featured in Stewart's comic shop on the show "Big Bang Theory". I Just did a bunch of new images for the final season. Plus they will be featurin

CherryAmes
CherryAmes

There is a huge difference!  Amy is an integral part of the cast.  Stuart is not.  The show could go on quite nicely if Stuart disappeared tomorrow.  With Amy they'd have a lot of explaining to do!

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brgjoe

brgjoe

This could be very good or very bad.  I don't think there will be much middle ground with it.

I am leaning towards the latter.  But I really hope I am wrong about that.

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CherryAmes

CherryAmes

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I have  problems seeing it working.  From everything we've been told Sheldon had a hard time as a child.  He had no friends, his brother was a monster, he got picked on, bullied, beaten up and his only salvation was his firm conviction that he was better than everyone else.  I guess I'm not seeing where the humour is supposed to come in.

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hnygrl

hnygrl

2 hours ago, CherryAmes said:

 

I have  problems seeing it working.  From everything we've been told Sheldon had a hard time as a child.  He had no friends, his brother was a monster, he got picked on, bullied, beaten up and his only salvation was his firm conviction that he was better than everyone else.  I guess I'm not seeing where the humour is supposed to come in.

 

Oh you know how they do. They'll throw all that out the window and present us with a new baby Sheldon that's nowhere NEAR that. We won't ever see any of that (in the 21st century? The time of the special little snowflakes that need 'safe spaces?' Never)

You wait. We won't see ANY of that. We'll see a cute little precocious baby asshole and his dumbass brother, sister and drunk daddy. Only one who can keep him in line is his momma and his meemaw.

I hate it already.

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Driad

Driad

Sheldon's mother said she had him "tested" but she wished she had taken him to the specialist in Houston. What if one of the doctors was Beverly? She might have worked in Texas for a while. If she had seen him she would probably remember him, but maybe she was the one who didn't. 

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hnygrl

hnygrl

I still think that if she'd taken him to Houston they would've diagnose him as Asperger's. All signs point that way. She just didn't see the need to follow-up with a specialist (thank the Lord he's not 'crazy'. And that's all she wrote.)

Probably won't see any of THAT in Baby Sheldon either.

Seriously. This show's gonna suck.

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Snarklepuss

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I am leaning towards this show sucking myself.  Not only does the actor who plays young Sheldon have to be believable as young Sheldon, he has to be funny too.  Plus the scripts have to be funny.  I just can't see all of those things happening together.  Then again, "Frasier" was a spin off of "Cheers" and that was fantastic even if it took some liberties with the original concept.  Although there at least the main character was still the same actor in both shows.

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CherryAmes

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I know most Chuck Lorre shows thrive on the dysfunctional families and the back story for Sheldon fits right in to that.  I guess for me what's funny in stories told in flashback or is funny because it's now adults dealing with their horrible childhoods (Charlie and Alan on Two and Half Men for instance) just can't be funny with a child dealing with it all as it happens.  Unless they go back and change a lot that we've been told about Sheldon we're going to see a boy whose father is overbearing and drunk most of the time and who cheats on his wife.  Not seeing the funny, just not.

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Indy

Indy

On 3/13/2017 at 4:32 PM, TheOtherOne said:

Evidently Lance Barber has been cast as Sheldon's father, and I have to admit, I don't care for him. I mean he's obviously good at playing a jerk, as he was on The Comeback, but I find him too unpleasant to watch. I really hated the Big Bang episode where he played Leonard's old bully and try to forget it exists...but evidently they're not going to let me. Bleh.

UGH! I hated the episode with him as Leonard's old bully too (too many bullying flashbacks to find that one enjoyable). That's one of the few episodes of this show that I flip by if it's on reruns. I don't think I'm going to enjoy seeing him every episode.  

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LADreamr

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Can't believe I'm going to defend Chuck Lorre, but... who'd have thought a comedy about recovering addicts could be so well done, especially with all-female leads and most of the supporting cast, considering his depiction of women on Two and a Half Men?  But Mom has been very good for its whole run so far, handling very delicate situations better than I've seen on many dramas.

With Jim Parsons narrating, I assume it's a single-camera show, which actually affords it even more latitude with its storytelling.  I think it has an opportunity to be very good, and rich.  I hope it turns out that way.

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LoneHaranguer

LoneHaranguer

43 minutes ago, Traveller519 said:

Big Bang Theory picked gets a two season renewal 

I'm not sure how to take that article since the author starts out by calling "Bazinga!", which is Sheldon's catchword for saying that something is a prank.

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OtterMommy

OtterMommy

1 hour ago, Traveller519 said:

Big Bang Theory picked gets a two season renewal 

http://tvline.com/2017/03/20/the-big-bang-theory-season-11-renewed-cbs-two-year-renewal/

Well, it looks like my laundry will continue to get folded on Thursdays (Mondays in the fall) through 2019.

I was surprised to see this.  The last time it was renewed (for 3 seasons, I believe) Jim Parsons didn't really hide the fact that he was already looking past the show.  I remember seeing him on The Daily Show right after the renewal was announced and Jon Stewart asked him about it getting renewed again after the 3 seasons were up and he said something like, "Well, they'll have to do it without me."

Of course, even with their "modest paycut," $900K per ep his hard to turn down.  I was pretty amazed to see that Mayim Bialik and Melissa Rauch are making so little compared to the rest of the cast.

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hnygrl

hnygrl

Really don't think I've got it in me to stick around for another two seasons. Just...no.

The bloom is off the rose. If it's on and I've got nothing else to do I'll watch it. If I've got things to do/other shows to watch forget it. 

I can't do another two seasons of this mess. What are they gonna do to pay these people? It's already under 21 minutes. Sometimes Damn near FIFTEEN minutes. Two more seasons is ridiculous.

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dungeonwriter

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I predict the cast has realized they've been type-cast and will never make this amount of money again, so they better rake it now. 

I don't see much hope for Young Sheldon, but am curious about it. Honestly, kids on tv are like wasabi, best in small doses. 

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LZ1982

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The renewal announcement really clarified my feelings about the show. My reaction wasn't, "Yea, two more seasons!"; it was, "Oh God, two more seasons?" Then I realized, why am I still watching? I think I assumed it would be ending this year, so I might as well stick around to see them wrap things up. I'm not going to watch two more seasons when I only like maybe a third of the episodes at this point.

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CherryAmes

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I've enjoyed this season, I think overall it's been stronger and with more re-watchable episodes than last year.  That said I don't know what they have left to say or do.  I'd hate to see the next two years be us watching Penny and Leonard slowly, or not so slowly, disintegrate as a couple.  They still have some room to work with Raj whether that's to finally get him into a happy relationship or even (and here's a radical thought) just have him happy.  I guess they could have the guys. or a subset of the guys, leave the university and try something new.  I dunno.  I wish they had taken a leaf from the Everybody Loves Raymond book.  The last season was shorter and they ended it when they did because, according to Phil Rosenthal, they didn't have any stories left to tell.

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vibeology

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4 hours ago, LZ1982 said:

The renewal announcement really clarified my feelings about the show. My reaction wasn't, "Yea, two more seasons!"; it was, "Oh God, two more seasons?" Then I realized, why am I still watching? I think I assumed it would be ending this year, so I might as well stick around to see them wrap things up. I'm not going to watch two more seasons when I only like maybe a third of the episodes at this point.

These are my feelings exactly. I do think this season has been better than last but ultimately I am just not that into it anymore. There are good moments and good episodes here and there, but mostly it feels like two more seasons would be a chore and that's not a good thing.

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Snarklepuss

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I think I'm happier hearing that the other cast members forfeited $100,000 per episode to give Bialik and Rauch a raise than I am to find out the show has been renewed.  Although I have to admit I'm not as disgruntled with the series this season so I'm not unhappy about the renewal.  Besides I am not gelling with a lot of other comedies on TV right now and losing this one is going to feel like the end of an era never to come again.  Kind of like the way I felt when Frasier ended - Like it was the death of the great traditional audience based situation comedy - Until BBT came along, that is.  But I really don't foresee another great one coming along to replace it any time soon given what a wasteland I see TV comedy as these days.

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ari333

ari333

6 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

I think I'm happier hearing that the other cast members forfeited $100,000 per episode to give Bialik and Rauch a raise than I am to find out the show has been renewed.  Although I have to admit I'm not as disgruntled with the series this season so I'm not unhappy about the renewal.  Besides I am not gelling with a lot of other comedies on TV right now and losing this one is going to feel like the end of an era never to come again.  Kind of like the way I felt when Frasier ended - Like it was the death of the great traditional audience based situation comedy - Until BBT came along, that is.  But I really don't foresee another great one coming along to replace it any time soon given what a wasteland I see TV comedy as these days.

THIS ^^^^^

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CherryAmes

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8 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

But I really don't foresee another great one coming along to replace it any time soon given what a wasteland I see TV comedy as these days.

I've tried newer comedies, I've even tried comedies that aren't so new but have only recently gone off the air.  I've found no show I'm interested enough in to watch past a couple of episodes.  Much as BBT may not be the show it once was it's still better than any of the competition.  To quote Penny, "And isn't that just a little sad?"

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LoneHaranguer

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1 hour ago, CherryAmes said:

I've even tried comedies that aren't so new but have only recently gone off the air.  I've found no show I'm interested enough in to watch past a couple of episodes.

If you're looking for humor above the juvenile level, it tends to be wrapped in drama these days. iZombie comes to mind due to the ads for being back next week.

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Hanahope

Hanahope

15 hours ago, Snarklepuss said:

But I really don't foresee another great one coming along to replace it any time soon given what a wasteland I see TV comedy as these days.

Too true.  while I will watch some others out there that my kids like, they all use stupidity, idiocy and lack of communication as the basis for their comedy.

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shapeshifter

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On March 30, 2017 at 0:21 AM, Snarklepuss said:

. . . But I really don't foresee another great one coming along to replace it any time soon given what a wasteland I see TV comedy as these days.

Black-ish is good.

ETA: At least a few of us really enjoy Superior Donuts.

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Bort

Bort

On 3/30/2017 at 3:57 PM, Hanahope said:

Too true.  while I will watch some others out there that my kids like, they all use stupidity, idiocy and lack of communication as the basis for their comedy.

They're watching Three's Company?

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wknt3

wknt3

On 3/30/2017 at 4:57 PM, Hanahope said:

Too true.  while I will watch some others out there that my kids like, they all use stupidity, idiocy and lack of communication as the basis for their comedy.

 

6 hours ago, kariyaki said:

They're watching Three's Company?

Or I Love Lucy. Or Shakespeare. Heck lack of communication or stupidity has been the basis for plenty of good Big Bang episodes. To me the reason that BBT still manages a mass audience, which is supposedly impossible in today's media landscape is that it is not afraid of either of the two elements of successful comedy series - jokes and likeable well defined characters. Too many people in the entertainment industry these days seem to think that combining the two is hacky. So you get a lot of "comedies" without jokes that try to make you smile or cringe instead of laugh or where unlikable assholes deliver interchangeable jokes. And a lot of professionals who refuse to acknowledge that Jim, Simon, and Mayim are delivering superlative performances and that the writing of the earlier seasons is great. If Cheers was on today these same people would be wondering why so many people are watching "shitty NBC multicam comedies" while the "good shows" are getting such low ratings.

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AnnaRose

AnnaRose

1 hour ago, wknt3 said:

 

To me the reason that BBT still manages a mass audience, which is supposedly impossible in today's media landscape is that it is not afraid of either of the two elements of successful comedy series - jokes and likeable well defined characters. Too many people in the entertainment industry these days seem to think that combining the two is hacky. So you get a lot of "comedies" without jokes that try to make you smile or cringe instead of laugh or where unlikable assholes deliver interchangeable jokes. And a lot of professionals who refuse to acknowledge that Jim, Simon, and Mayim are delivering superlative performances and that the writing of the earlier seasons is great. If Cheers was on today these same people would be wondering why so many people are watching "shitty NBC multicam comedies" while the "good shows" are getting such low ratings.

I totally agree with you, especially the bolded part.  A lot of comedies just aren't particularly funny.

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BlossomCulp

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I think the key is the likable characters!  So many "comedies" have entire casts of characters you wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes with in your real life, let alone half an hour on TV.  Shows like King of Queens, for example, where the three main characters were just deeply unpleasant people.  The newer shows that I've watched seem just as bad.  I mean it's like they know viewers will accept flawed characters but they've forgotten you have to give them at least a few redeeming qualities.

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LoneHaranguer

LoneHaranguer

On 4/1/2017 at 8:31 PM, BlossomCulp said:

I think the key is the likable characters!

I'm not sure I'd agree; you can root against unlikeable characters, and South Park gets a lot of mileage from Cartman and guest characters meant to be the butt of jokes. The characters do need to be well-defined, with the humor written around those characters. The jokes start to fall flat if it sounds like two characters, no matter how likable, could trade scripts.

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CherryAmes

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I think the point is when a sitcom is meant to be about real people living their lives it better  have a lot going for it if you don't even like any of the characters!  I know Seinfeld got a lot of mileage out of how the 4 main characters weren't particularly nice people but even with that they all had their  soft spots and their moments of likability.  Plus it didn't hurt that it was incredibly well written.  Same goes for BBT, there have been duds of episodes but overall it's set a pretty high standard.  This year I'm finding it particularly good.  Not early seasons good, but worth watching and unlike a lot of the episodes from the last couple of years a lot of this years shows are worth watching in rerun land.

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BlossomCulp

BlossomCulp

On 4/3/2017 at 6:27 PM, CherryAmes said:

This year I'm finding it particularly good.

This season in particular makes me wonder if someone out in BBT  land is reading forums like ours.  They've gotten back into sciency stuff, they are setting more scenes in the university and they've scaled back both Bernadette's bitchiness and Penny's dumbness.  All things we've ranted about here more than a few times.  

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LoneHaranguer

LoneHaranguer

17 hours ago, rmontro said:

I think it's fantastic that the major stars agreed to take a pay cut so that Mayim and Melissa could make more.  Those two are as important to the show as anyone else these days.

Does that include Kevin Sussman, who seems to have been left out of the big paydays? Bernadette has been woven pretty tightly into the show, but I see no difference between Amy and Stuart.

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CherryAmes

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There is a huge difference!  Amy is an integral part of the cast.  Stuart is not.  The show could go on quite nicely if Stuart disappeared tomorrow.  With Amy they'd have a lot of explaining to do!

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LoneHaranguer

LoneHaranguer

5 hours ago, CherryAmes said:

The show could go on quite nicely if Stuart disappeared tomorrow.  With Amy they'd have a lot of explaining to do!

Not really. Amy could meet someone else, or Sheldon could cross a line with her and she'd be gone. Raj could take up the slack when the story needs a gal-pal for Penny to talk out something. There are at least a couple of directions they could go with Sheldon.

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