Season 6 Discussion

[Scarlett45]

11 hours ago, Raja said:

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that, it could be like the Philippines and if the dad's family is in the better financial position then they take charge of the child even if no one goes to court to get a government enforced agreement.  Where as everywhere in the world there are the men who will pump and dump even if he impregnated the women no matter what most do in their parent society. It seems to me like sister/auntie may have missed their local marriage age window and she thought that she would be raising her nephew in lieu of her own child. Then Eric showed up

@iwasish, I agree with @Raja‘s point above. In many places (even in 2018) if a marriage ends, a woman may get a settlement but the husband and his family maintain legal custody of the children (hence no child support). For people that aren’t married when the child is born, what happens socially vs mandated by the courts are two very different things. In most cultures, if a man is wealthy he’s expected to support his children (if he’s married to the Mom or not). If a married man has a child with his mistress, the mistress is often given a settlement and the child is given to the wife or the man’s extended family to raise so that the woman doesn’t have the financial burden or social taboo of being a single Mom. So no I don’t think in Indonesia is a strange place where men don’t support their children, like anywhere else there are always going to be deadbeats, but “court ordered child support” based on a percentage of the man’s income and direct deposited into the mom’s checking account isn’t a cultural norm. 

[iwasish]

36 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

@iwasish, I agree with @Raja‘s point above. In many places (even in 2018) if a marriage ends, a woman may get a settlement but the husband and his family maintain legal custody of the children (hence no child support). For people that aren’t married when the child is born, what happens socially vs mandated by the courts are two very different things. In most cultures, if a man is wealthy he’s expected to support his children (if he’s married to the Mom or not). If a married man has a child with his mistress, the mistress is often given a settlement and the child is given to the wife or the man’s extended family to raise so that the woman doesn’t have the financial burden or social taboo of being a single Mom. So no I don’t think in Indonesia is a strange place where men don’t support their children, like anywhere else there are always going to be deadbeats, but “court ordered child support” based on a percentage of the man’s income and direct deposited into the mom’s checking account isn’t a cultural norm. 

It just seems that Eric is so sure he’s going to adopt this child, doesn’t he need to have the bio dad sign away his parental rights? I don’t see why he wants to take on that legal and financial burden if he is struggling to pay child support for his daughters. 

[Raja]

4 minutes ago, iwasish said:

It just seems that Eric is so sure he’s going to adopt this child, doesn’t he need to have the bio dad sign away his parental rights? I don’t see why he wants to take on that legal and financial burden if he is struggling to pay child support for his daughters. 

We think that the K-2 has been issued and the father's family allowed the travel, I bet that legal hurdle has already been jumped

[gonecrackers]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

Bartenders usually work nights and sleep fairly late into the day, so the guy also would have to be cool with not seeing her much if he works traditional hours.

How does that work for her with small children I wonder.

[zenme]

On 10/29/2018 at 11:36 AM, sasha206 said:

I just can't get over how a kid who has no high school education, is homeless essentially, and I'm going to guess barely works as a server, will be able to handle the care and feeding of a baby. 

I just can't get over someone wanting to sleep with such a winner.

[Spike]

48 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

How does that work for her with small children I wonder.

Maybe has family watching them.

[sasha206]

17 minutes ago, zenme said:

I just can't get over someone wanting to sleep with such a winner.

Right!  I *might* be able to understand it if he was some super hot guy and it was a one night stand.  But he isn't even that!  

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, iwasish said:

It just seems that Eric is so sure he’s going to adopt this child, doesn’t he need to have the bio dad sign away his parental rights? I don’t see why he wants to take on that legal and financial burden if he is struggling to pay child support for his daughters. 

The man isn’t struggling to provide for his daughters IMO, that’s just him blowing smoke (and spending money inappropriately)- he wants to adopt Alejandro to get in good with Leda and “make a family” with her. Who knows if he will ACTUALLY do it (it could be all talk). Alejandro’s father may agree for the chance for his kid to become a USC and/or he’s just not interested in being a parent. 

1 hour ago, gonecrackers said:

How does that work for her with small children I wonder.

A grandparent or their Dad (s) may watch them the nights she works; she may also hire a sitter those nights. They also have 24hrs day care centers in major metro areas. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by Scarlett45

[Nofo mom]

On 10/29/2018 at 2:40 PM, magemaud said:

I did love the floral centerpiece! But you're right, that was somebody's parents' house. 

I agree!  The blurred out picture of the colonial figure in the opening scene was the give away for me.  

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, zenme said:

On 10/29/2018 at 12:36 PM, sasha206 said:

I just can't get over how a kid who has no high school education, is homeless essentially, and I'm going to guess barely works as a server, will be able to handle the care and feeding of a baby. 

I just can't get over someone wanting to sleep with such a winner.

I can see how a young girl from Russia, working in the US for the Summer, could be charmed by a "cool" (at least in her eyes) American guy at the beach. 

now why can't I get the song, "Summer Lovin'" from Grease out of my head...

Edited November 4, 2018 by magemaud

[Former Nun]

5 hours ago, iwasish said:

I don’t see why he wants to take on that legal and financial burden if he is struggling to pay child support for his daughters. 

Because he was born with a low IQ and has now drunk away billions of brain cells.  Livin' in a dream world.

[gonecrackers]

3 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

4 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

How does that work for her with small children I wonder.

A grandparent or their Dad (s) may watch them the nights she works; she may also hire a sitter those nights. They also have 24hrs day care centers in major metro areas. 

Yeah I was thinking if she's sleeping in who gets them to school or whatever, because if too young for school small kids tend to be up early. But she probably doesn't work every night & maybe shares custody according to her schedule. Maybe we'll be finding out more of her lifestyle as she settles in with Jay.

[Former Nun]

On 11/2/2018 at 8:08 PM, HappyDancex2 said:

His guilt of taking care of his mom since his dad is gone is admirable but it's stunting his emotional growth and making the bond even harder to break. 

I haven't seen guilt as such, but he hasn't experienced living any other way.  Hasn't he lived with his parents (and now just his mother) all his life?  She has (at least) Social Security as income, but his income probably makes things more affordable--but not much.  If he could afford more, he would probably have a car with air-conditioning.  

[Spike]

1 hour ago, Former Nun said:

I haven't seen guilt as such, but he hasn't experienced living any other way.  Hasn't he lived with his parents (and now just his mother) all his life?  She has (at least) Social Security as income, but his income probably makes things more affordable--but not much.  If he could afford more, he would probably have a car with air-conditioning.  

Don’t you have to have worked a certain number of quarters to get social security?  Some people don’t get it.  Although if married there is a spousal benefit.

[sconstant]

21 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

Does anybody know where he got the sandwich from? Please don't tell me he made that big of a deal of a sub from Subway, although that would fit in with Eric's cheapness.

No Subway (or any other chain) at Reading Terminal Market.  It's pretty awesome and well-curated.  But it's also not really where you'd go for a Canonical Tourist Cheesesteak either - you'd go to Pat's or Geno's.  Not that the ones at RTM aren't genuine, but if you're not there to eat because you're hungry but just to give everyone a taste of Phila. (hence the four way split) you'd go down to South Philly and grab one (or both) at Pat's or Geno's.

[queenjen]

6 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

The man isn’t struggling to provide for his daughters IMO, that’s just him blowing smoke (and spending money inappropriately)- he wants to adopt Alejandro to get in good with Leda and “make a family” with her. Who knows if he will ACTUALLY do it (it could be all talk). Alejandro’s father may agree for the chance for his kid to become a USC and/or he’s just not interested in being a parent. 

7 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

I read somewhere here that Alessandro's father is Japanese and that Leida was married to him. I know Japan is quite restrictive with mixed marriages. Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship, for example. then there is the attitude to 'mixed race' couples there, which is where I'm going with Alessandro. I don't know where he was born, but I still can't see how living anywhere but with his Indonesian family isn't the safest outcome for him at this stage. 

[Scarlett45]

3 minutes ago, queenjen said:

I read somewhere here that Alessandro's father is Japanese and that Leida was married to him. I know Japan is quite restrictive with mixed marriages. Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship, for example. then there is the attitude to 'mixed race' couples there, which is where I'm going with Alessandro. I don't know where he was born, but I still can't see how living anywhere but with his Indonesian family isn't the safest outcome for him at this stage. 

Ah thanks for the info. Alessandro is still living with his Indonesian family (his Mom). Given that’s her son I certainly see why she’d want him with her, and if she had left him with family in Indonesia for a time, she would likely be vilified for abandoning him (like some people claimed Hazel did -from Before the 90days). 

As a single person (much less a mom) I wouldn’t be comfortable living with someone I’d only spent 22days in person with but that’s just me. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by Scarlett45

[doyouevengohere]

I predict that Leida will assume that GIJoe's daughters will be instant babysitters for "AHHHLESS".  And maybe even the ex wife.  She doesn't seem that close to her kid and I'm sure she's used to other people caring for him.

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, sconstant said:

But it's also not really where you'd go for a Canonical Tourist Cheesesteak either - you'd go to Pat's or Geno's. 

Doesn’t an authentic Philly Cheesesteak have to have orange/yellow Cheez Whiz on it? 

Edited November 5, 2018 by magemaud

[sconstant]

2 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Doesn’t an authentic Philly Cheesesteak have to have yellow Cheese Whiz on it? 

It can.  Provolone ("provie") is another valid option.

[iwasish]

3 hours ago, sconstant said:

No Subway (or any other chain) at Reading Terminal Market.  It's pretty awesome and well-curated.  But it's also not really where you'd go for a Canonical Tourist Cheesesteak either - you'd go to Pat's or Geno's.  Not that the ones at RTM aren't genuine, but if you're not there to eat because you're hungry but just to give everyone a taste of Phila. (hence the four way split) you'd go down to South Philly and grab one (or both) at Pat's or Geno's.

Or buy stuff from several vendors and have a sampler of the specialties of the area. They make a great Italian roast beef and a roast pork to die for. Some different breads and a few samples of various cheeses. He just plopped it there like he was feeding a couple of dogs.

[Chalby]

On 10/28/2018 at 7:29 PM, Major Bigtime said:

The kid going to Russia, I am in agreement with his grandma. He’s a mess.

Jamaican guy and the blonde, I think they are the one couple that will be happy together.

I feel the opposite - more hope for the Russian couple and less for Mr. Jamaica. I question a poor son whose only trait to brag about, is his Dad's ability to bed women. The fact that 'bedding lots of women' results in 'lots of respect' for his Dad, tells me this family is low class.

[Chalby]

On 10/29/2018 at 6:15 AM, CoachWristletJen said:

I don't know what her dad's upbringing was like, but I shudder to think that he had a similar, guileless personality when he first arrived in the United States and it was pounded out of him. If so, Asuelu's story truly is a sad one and I can only hope that Kalani will think more about her husband's feelings and less about her mean-assed Christian family.

There's something that screams 'home schooling' or similar distancing/controlling behaviour. Frankly, if I were Asuelu, it would take everything in my power not to laugh at that ridiculous beard-braid. Nothing screams tough like a skinny plait. I just get that dim-witted Duggarish controlling dad crap and Asuelu needs a friendly face near him to remind him that is HIS son and this family do not get to decide if he gets to be the father simply based on whether they like him or not.

[Chalby]

After commenting on the fifth couple, I realized a common thread - none of these couples appear to have any meaningful societal courtesy/class, and they appear poorly educated OR the ones who are educated clearly have psychological/behavioural 'issues'. One last beef, I did not like how Eric appeared to pull the grandson away from the grandfather to hoist onto his shoulders. It probably is poor editing, but just because you can carry a child on your shoulders doesn't designate you the 'father figure'.

[Drogo]

Sorry Debbie, but Coltie's new favorite breakfast food is vagina.

Why does Jonathan's ex get to keep her underwear in a drawer but Fernanda has to keep all her clothes on the floor? 

[jennyf]

In case you don’t want to bother googling, 9,000 rubles is $136. And was that a doll’s car seat that Olga’s guy (I forgot his name) was carrying through Russian Walmart?  That thing was oddly small.

[Drogo]

Just now, jennyf said:

was that a doll’s car seat that Olga’s guy (I forgot his name) was carrying through Russian Walmart?  That thing was oddly small.

I think it was a bath seat. 

[Stardancer Supreme]

I thought Coltee and his mother was the height of codependency.  Kalani, Kolini, and Low are enmeshed.  Kolini seems to think she should be Oliver's daddy.  Yikes.

[Drogo]

Can anyone explain to me why Oliver's father thinks he can be Oliver's father?

Asking for my friend, Kolonics.

[Scarlett45]

@Drogo I’m dying. 

[Jeanclaudvanbuns]

Coltie's moobs are so biggie. I love Larissa's cute English. 

[Scarlett45]

1 minute ago, Jeanclaudvanbuns said:

Coltie's moobs are so biggie. I love Larissa's cute English. 

Yes. Losing weight is hard. Good for him. 

[Adeejay]

Kalani's family need to calm the eff down.  She was a 29 year old woman who slept with a 22 year old guy.  She is not a teenager.  I have a feeling she was the one who made the first move.  It kills me to see him taking crap from her father and sister while she sits there looking smug.  I would bet good money that she wasn't a virgin.  Yes.  I said it. 

[Owwwww ma leg]

She really is getting a “bad edit”. Run sweet Asuelu Run 

[iwasish]

5 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Kalani's family need to calm the eff down.  She was a 29 year old woman who slept with a 22 year old guy.  She is not a teenager.  I have a feeling she was the one who made the first move.  It kills me to see him taking crap from her father and sister while she sits there looking smug.  I would bet good money that she wasn't a virgin.  Yes.  I said it. 

Join the club, her virginity was long gone before Ansuelu entered the picture  her vagina. 

[Major Bigtime]

Kalani’s family members are bad.

Colt’s choice for a wife is bad.

I no longer like the Jamaican guy, he’s bad.

Eric is doomed. Does he have all his teeth? 

The Russian and blonde guy are the only ones I like at this point. 

And my likes and dislikes change every time I watch this shitshow. 

[Brooklynista]

1 minute ago, iwasish said:

Join the club, her virginity was long gone before Ansuelu entered the picture  her vagina. 

Whew! I thought I was the only one thinking Kelani has lost her virginity several times over.

[Frozendiva]

Olga, your summer fling Steve, is 20 years old, just like you. He probably isn't rich and can't afford a lot of things. That being said, babies are expensive. No coworkers or friends or friends of friends who have recently had babies and can help you out with a few things - like hand me down clothing, blankets, etc.? Do you have realistic plans of life with a child? Continuing your education, getting a job, etc.?

Jay, welcome to Baltimore and the white sand that is called snow. Ashley's home doesn't really have a lot of personality. And yeah, it may be tough the first bit to be the only black dude in the area. Most people wouldn't notice or care, but there are a few who will. Be a mature young man.

Fernanda, you don't know your fiancé's friends. Be very careful what you share with them. It's hard to leave home at such a young age and move to a different city and country. Your fiancé should be making life a bit easier for you. However, he can't get in to the mindset of being a foreigner who has little if any support system.

Larissa, be wary of Colt's mother. The dynamic there is co-dependent. Debbie does need to find things to do so that her son is not her only priority and fixation. You will also need to negotiate the cats. However, you should also have known all about mother and the cats before you agreed to marry Colt. What you see is what you get.

Asuelu, run. Kalani and her family are a sinking ship of dysfunction. She is trying to drive you away from them. Enjoy the visit to the US and get a job in Samoa and send support to your son.

Eric, you are not the beast to your Malaysian beauty. There will be no reversal of the spell that currently keeps you in a dingy apartment that you share with your daughter. Why she is really with you hasn't been revealed yet.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

So Kalini doesn’t think Oliver’s father, who moved to the US to be with him yesterday, can be his dad overnight? Newsflash fat ass, he’s already his father! Helping raise your nephew you does not make you his dad, and nobody told you take on your sister’s responsibility.  She got her self in that predicament, so let her figure it out.  

Why doesn’t she stop being a bitter, ball breaking shrew and focus on her man and kids?  Oh that’s right...She's too busy worrying about her sisters fiancé to get one of her own.  What a loser she is.  

Can’t snark on Olga having grown up in the orphanage, but it explains her lack of social skills.  I won’t go as far as to say she had RAD or anything, but Russian orphanages are no joke, so who knows what damage was done.  I did notice that she said “my baby” though.  He better swab that kid’s mouth as soon as he gets stateside.  

Jay is still annoying but kudos to him for wanting better than his childish dad.  I like him a lot more than Ashley.  And if she hadn’t considered what life would be like for him as the only Black man in the neighborhood, she’s an even bigger idiot than I thought.   She has no idea what America is like for people of color, and she won’t like it.  

As for Larissa, she is my least favorite. Mom and Coltee are weird as fuck, but Debbie did seem genuinely happy to meet her.  She repays the woman by insulting her car, city, home, cooking, and memory of her late husband.  Way to go bitch!  I’d send her and her ginormous gums packing. 

Leida is a class A asshole for screaming at Captain Kangaroo at the airport. She is insufferable. 

Fernanda is the typical immature 19 year old, but she’s smart. If she were the same age as Mr. Bewbies, they would never have hit it off. She would have shot him down at the bar and sent his lame as drink order back.  He would be way out of his league.  

Edited November 5, 2018 by Ijustwantsomechips

[Dance4Life]

Wealthy Leida doesn’t get any child support because she can’t figure out which teen on GAP year knocked her up. In America, you pay child support.  Don’t like it.  Scam a guy with no kids.

 

Larissa got us the answer on the Slot Machine. wooo!  She needs to be nice.  We know her ass has nothing back in Brazil but a flea infested bed at her place of employment....a Brazilian brothel! 

 

Kalani- Another episode and mom was still taking care of baby Oliver and Kalani never went to work.

[Kazzy25]

I really dislike Larissa but I laughed at her fat shaming poor “Cookie Dookie” the cat. That was hilarious.

[Jeanclaudvanbuns]

I'm surprised Coltie doesn't call Debbie mother. Poor Asuelo, he seems so sweet and innocent and with a good heart. Not a fan of Olga and sleezy Steve, so boring.  

[Drogo]

3 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

Larissa got us the answer on the Slot Machine. wooo!

Coltee, biggee..  I'm disappointed that she didn't call it the Slottee Machine.

Anywho, Colt's dad must've been the most romantic enabler that ever was. 

[bichonblitz]

18 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

As for Larissa, she is my least favorite. Mom and Coltee are weird as fuck, but Debbie did seem genuinely happy to meet her.  She repays the woman by insulting her car, city, home, cooking, and memory of her late husband.  Way to go bitch!  I’d send her and her ginormous gums packing. 

Yes!  No doubt Coltee and Mom have a super weird relationship, on the other hand, I also thought Mom was being very gracious to Larissa. She told her she removed some furniture so that Larissa could decorate any way she wanted (except for the slot machine, of course). That was very sweet of her to want to that for Coltee's bride to be. She was making an effort to adapt to the new life Coltee was thrusting upon her in her own house. She made dinner for them, why couldn't Larissa shut up and show some appreciation and eat the damn dinner? Seeing Mamma Coltee crying was sad. I hope she opens her eyes and finds a happy life for herself. 

Edited November 5, 2018 by bichonblitz

[iwasish]

4 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Coltee, biggee..  I'm disappointed that she didn't call it the Slottee Machine.

Anywho, Colt's dad must've been the most romantic enabler that ever was. 

The Slottee machine is between her legs.

[iwasish]

5 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

She was making an effort to adapt to the new life Coltee was thrusting upon her in her own house. 

Instead of getting up and  making breakfast, while Coltee was thrusting upon Larissa, she waited to be invited to join them for the post-coital repast. I thought that was quite nice of her.

[Gigglepuff]

Kalani telling her family that she lost her virginity with Asuelu = me telling my mother that I was only holding a package of cigarettes for my friend. Only I was 16. And my mother didn't buy it. 

[magemaud]

NO Sgt. Baker tonight! I hope he’s okay, you know water can do a lot of damage. 

And only one helping of my coveted Princess Toast in two hours.

I was disappointed but then cheered up again after seeing Debbie’s t-shirt. At first I thought it was the famous “Three Wolves Howling” shirt that gets such hilarious reviews on Amazon. 

[Spike]

If that fat cat sleeps on Colt’s bed it has at one time or other been an Ookie Cookie.

[Toaster Strudel]

Gyalis Jr & Rode Hard Barbie: These two are a crushing bore. Their segments feel like they go on for an eternity. There is nothing deep or intriguing going on here, she likes to ride the heavy sack and that's his ticket to America, and thrice daily banging. Eventually, he'll probably cheat on her and they're will be drama we won't be privy to. They'll pretend that everything is hunky dory on Instagram. I just can't bring myself care for these two. Prognosis: 3 years of wild rut.

Sex Ed Flunkies Steve-O & Little Orphan Olga: Too bad TLC doesn't have a budget for music royalties, they could play the soundtrack for Grease backwards as the background - because this time it's Danny traveling to meet Russian Sandy on her stomping grounds. These two crazy kids have as good a chance as any that are forced to commit for life because of oopsies parenthood. It's a small miracle Steve-O actually got around in Russia since he was unable to find his way to a box of condoms in his own hometown. Is a 1000 rubles a lot? Kinda! It's $15. Prognosis: 9 years, which is roughly when their adult personalities will settle.

GI Cheap & Miss Escaped Mental Patient Indonesia 2009: "Look, the best cheddar in the world for $6/lb!" "I want to try!" "NO!!!! Keep walking, grunt! We've got leftover processed cheese slices in the fridge back in Wisconsin, straight from the army canteen!" Eric in the talking head: "It is important that I provide for Leida & Alessandro" the editors cut off the end of the sentence "for under $25 a week."

He takes her to a dingy, grey, dirty food court packed with sketchy people with their faces blurred out. He proudly returns with a single 12" hoagie in a plastic bag that they are all going to share. Since he lacked the forethought of bringing a tray, it's hardly surprising that there are no drinks to accompany the salty food, a plastic knife to cut it, or paper plates for everyone. They're reduced to eating it like animals, ripping pieces of it with their claws, and trying to eat it off thin, cheap napkins soggy with the juices oozing out of the shredded sandwich.

Leida says that if Eric's support of his biological children gets in the way of supporting her and a child from another man, it will "need to stop." Why is child support even necessary, she wonders, piqued with jealousy and wishing for him to abandon his own kids to care care of her, and hers. That hoagie should be a clue, if she missed the first clue of Eric's crooked wooden peg teeth. With Leida's parents arrival, the daily hoagie is going to have to be split 6-ways. She's extraordinarily selfish, but I trust Eric will read her the riot act.

Leida likes a "manly-man" - maybe she is looking for someone to enforce narrow boundaries on her neuroses. Next week she is welcomed into the gross bachelor pad he shares with his daughter because he can't pay for it on his own. #karma. Prognosis: Leida will be dishonorably discharged within 3 years, which is how long Eric will tolerate her increasing insubordination.

Asuelu & Kalani: Another unprotected sex love story. I think these two will make it if the Family Kalani minds its own business. Why is Kalani letting her family attack Asuelu? Who appointed Kalani's sullen, judgmental sister Asuelu's fatherhood probation officer? Kalani’s family: “He needs to step up as a father” Also Kalani’s family: “I don’t know why he thinks he can come in here and be a father now.” Message to Sister Kalani and Father Kalani: STFU. Asuelu doesn't have to earn his fatherhood from his child's aunt because he couldn't come earlier, nor does he have to profess his love to his wife to anyone but her. His interactions with his son are genuine and touching. "I hope he stop be cranky to me and he give me a beautiful smile!" He just wants to love his wife and child, and be loved. But alas... there are no coconuts in the trees in America, and the sea is cold. Prognosis: until death does them part, if the family butts out and they spend half the year in Samoa.

Realtor Ken & Fernanda Vergara. I love Fernanda, she has that charisma, and Jonathan is a goofball. They may have to adapt at first, but I believe they will be happy together. Prognosis: long term.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Toaster Strudel