Notabug October 4, 2022 Share October 4, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then? Remember that Josh was only 14 or so when he molested his sisters. which means JD was just 12. He wouldn't have had much choice but to toe the line at that point. It is also probable that his parents told him a sanitized version of the story ('they were asleep', 'he only touched them through their clothes'). I'm not sure the average 12 year old would have a good grasp on the situation independent of their parents and JD was probably not as well informed as the average 12 year old. Edited October 4, 2022 by Notabug 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7684006
Ohiopirate02 October 4, 2022 Share October 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then? To be fair, all of the Duggar kids (except Josh) toed the family line before the AM reveal. JB designed it that way. JD wants to be a pilot and there's enough money for that plus daddy is buying the family planes. JB's wedding gift of choice is a house further keeping his kids in his orbit and buying the loyalty of his new sons and daughters in law. Not counting Amy, the only person to face the wrath of JB is Derick. Even then, Michelle and Jill still have a relationship. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7684011
Salacious Kitty October 4, 2022 Share October 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Notabug said: Remember that Josh was only 14 or so when he molested his sisters. which means JD was just 12. He wouldn't have had much choice but to toe the line at that point. It is also probable that his parents told him a sanitized version of the story ('they were asleep', 'he only touched them through their clothes'). I'm not sure the average 12 year old would have a good grasp on the situation independent of their parents and JD was probably not as well informed as the average 12 year old. Oh, I doubt the boys were told anything approaching the truth at the time of the molestations. They just knew that FF had done something bad and went away for a couple of months. Only Boobchelle and the four girls knew the truth, although at 5, Joy probably understood very little. I do wonder how much Jana knew? 4 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7684025
lascuba October 5, 2022 Share October 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said: But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then? Yes, he did. In a group interview with his adult siblings, he said that all the negative media attention over the molestation was just Satan at work. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7685013
BigBingerBro October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7685949
Salacious Kitty October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 Not his best picture. 1 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7685986
andromeda331 October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 15 hours ago, lascuba said: Yes, he did. In a group interview with his adult siblings, he said that all the negative media attention over the molestation was just Satan at work. JD, despite what your idiot parents told you, Satan isn't that interested in you or your family. 7 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7686722
sagittarius sue October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 5 hours ago, andromeda331 said: JD, despite what your idiot parents told you, Satan isn't that interested in you or your family. Satan might find them a great source of amusement. 6 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7686852
Chicklet October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 I think Josh has evil down without the help of any supernatural forces. 10 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7686874
ginger90 October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 Shifting blame, a concept this family knows. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7686876
GeeGolly October 6, 2022 Share October 6, 2022 I don't remember the satan thing, but I do remember JD almost crying when basically saying he was done with Josh and lost all respect for him. 9 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7686880
dargosmydaddy October 13, 2022 Share October 13, 2022 Another picture of Abbie and Charlie at Trace's wedding, per Michael Bates Keilen's Instagram. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7699760
YupItsMe October 14, 2022 Share October 14, 2022 Baby Charlie has lots of blonde hair. 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7700339
ginger90 October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724061
Scarlett45 October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 8 hours ago, ginger90 said: I know there are many people who enjoy camping, and the weather in AR right now is probably perfect for it. Whenever I see JD and Abbie they always look genuinely happy together (same with Kendra/Joe). Their smiles reach their eyes. 6 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724692
GeeGolly October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 I never realized how warm AR & TN are in the fall. Fall camping is not a thing in New England, well at least not for the folks I know, as its much cooler here. It seems as if The Duggars and Bates are in full camping mode. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724703
Scarlett45 October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: I never realized how warm AR & TN are in the fall. Fall camping is not a thing in New England, well at least not for the folks I know, as its much cooler here. It seems as if The Duggars and Bates are in full camping mode. Yes everyone I know that likes to camp in the midwest does it May-September, but I think its in the 60F-70F range in AR right now which is nice for outdoor activities (says the person who is never outside if its below 55F unless there is a dog to walk or an outdoor Christmas display to look at). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724713
Absolom October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 In AR, you need to wait until you won't die without A/C. 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724733
ChristmasCandy October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 3:19 PM, oliviabenson said: What a bad idea to bring a newborn to a superspreader event… its COVID, flu, cold season. Remember that nothing bad ever happens to the fundies because of the fact that they worship the one and only correct Jesus. 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724783
Absolom October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 LOL....until it does. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724863
Zella October 28, 2022 Share October 28, 2022 (edited) Right now the weather here is currently having highs of 60s, so it is very nice, but October is pretty notoriously mercurial. Last week, we went from 80 degrees to 22 degrees to back to 80 degrees in a couple of days. That's very normal, and I always hate it because it causes my allergies to go absolutely insane. In any event, the weather isn't predictable enough--at least to me--for there to be a set time when you go camping. You do it, as @Absolom said, when you won't die without AC, but when that is going to be can be very up in the air. It stayed super hot here well into October last year. This year has been more "normal." Edited October 28, 2022 by Zella 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7724904
ginger90 December 25, 2022 Share December 25, 2022 7 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7804133
YupItsMe December 26, 2022 Share December 26, 2022 That baby is adorable and so is Gracie. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7804221
Salacious Kitty December 26, 2022 Share December 26, 2022 How did such a schlub like John father those cuties? 4 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7804224
beckie December 26, 2022 Share December 26, 2022 That's a really nice picture and the kids are adorable! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7804638
Popular Post Scarlett45 December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share December 27, 2022 I think JD and Abby take such nice photos because they are genuinely in love and happy together. Of course they have disagreements I’m sure (like any other couple), but when people are genuinely happy and in love you can see it in their eyes. 23 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7805409
Popular Post libgirl2 December 27, 2022 Popular Post Share December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said: I think JD and Abby take such nice photos because they are genuinely in love and happy together. Of course they have disagreements I’m sure (like any other couple), but when people are genuinely happy and in love you can see it in their eyes. I have always said they look very happy. I really think waiting and living life first before rushing out and getting married barely out of your teens worked for them. 24 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7805468
Scarlett45 December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, libgirl2 said: I have always said they look very happy. I really think waiting and living life first before rushing out and getting married barely out of your teens worked for them. Or in your teens! Like Joy or Ben or Kendra. 26 & 28 is a typical age to get married in mainstream culture, and I can understand it might be harder for a lot of people to wait since in fundyland you’re not supposed to date or have sex in the interim, but I think they are well suited. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7805502
SMama February 22, 2023 Share February 22, 2023 How old is Gracie? Abbie has a story up without showing her face. I wonder if that will last, and if it does good for the kids. Gracie knows her shapes, has the cutest little voice, and her speech is clearer than Henry’s. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7881976
GeeGolly February 22, 2023 Share February 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, SMama said: How old is Gracie? Abbie has a story up without showing her face. I wonder if that will last, and if it does good for the kids. Gracie knows her shapes, has the cutest little voice, and her speech is clearer than Henry’s. I think the angle of the reel was for the shill. They just posted this picture a few weeks ago. Gracie is a smart little cutie. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7881987
madpsych78 February 23, 2023 Share February 23, 2023 Gracie just turned 3 last month. She was born five days before her father turned 30. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7883078
SMama February 23, 2023 Share February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, madpsych78 said: Gracie just turned 3 last month. She was born five days before her father turned 30. Oh wow, Gracie and Layla Stewart are about the same age. What a difference. Both cuties though. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7883148
Scarlett45 February 27, 2023 Share February 27, 2023 Quote I don't see John David having six. Abbie has hyperemesis gravidarum and I can't see him wanting to put her through that another four times. I was actually surprised they had a second child. I think now that they have a girl and a boy, their family is complete. Quoting @Gemma Violet from the Michelle/JB thread. I wasnt surprised JD and Abbie had a second child, most people that want children want at least 2, and Abbie/JD (while older by fundy standards) are still fairly young. Had they married in their mid 30s sure I could see them only having the 1. If they have another it will be because Abby wants it, I can see JD being a good husband, actually thinking of his wife's well being. I dont see JD as being wrapped up in ego in having a bunch of kids. Although I think Joe/Kendra will hit double digits I think the same thing of Joe, that he genuinely loves his wife and SHE wants to have the babies, not that he is pressuring her or interested in the ego of procreating like JB was. Now to be fair to JB, I do try to be fair, if Michelle said she wasnt having any more kids at any point, that would've been the end of the discussion. JB gets ego from having so many kids but not as much ego as Michelle got. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7888935
oliviabenson February 27, 2023 Share February 27, 2023 I don’t see them having more than 4 kids. They look happy and in love. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-7889504
Gemma Violet May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 (edited) Abbie/JD have an IG story endorsing something called SpacePlanner. In case anyone missed it in the other thread, Abbie is apparently working in the hospital where Joy gave birth. Edited May 28, 2023 by Gemma Violet 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020228
GeeGolly May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Has anyone grabbed a screen of Abbie at work? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020231
Gemma Violet May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Just now, GeeGolly said: Has anyone grabbed a screen of Abbie at work? The video has been edited to obscure her face. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020234
AstridM May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Gemma Violet said: The video has been edited to obscure her face. So it’s ok for them to film others in medical offices and hospitals and post them without the consent of all of the strangers in those videos, but they protect Abby? 10 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020237
Salacious Kitty May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, AstridM said: So it’s ok for them to film others in medical offices and hospitals and post them without the consent of all of the strangers in those videos, but they protect Abby? Can't show a Duggar working a paying job not created by JB. 🙄 7 1 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020260
sagittarius sue May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: Can't show a Duggar working a paying job not created by JB. 🙄 Particularly a Duggar wife. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020267
GeeGolly May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Is Charlie even one yet? I find it odd that Abbie is working now. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020277
Salacious Kitty May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Was it confirmed that it was definitely Abbie in the video? I skimmed the comments, and no one mentioned seeing her. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020286
AstridM May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: Is Charlie even one yet? I find it odd that Abbie is working now. JD has plenty of time to stay home with the kids. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020289
GeeGolly May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, AstridM said: JD has plenty of time to stay home with the kids. I'm sure he does, but Abbie mentioned wanting to be a stay at home mom. I also think its common for followers to peg any curly haired female as Abbie. And do LPNs work in Labor and Delivery? I know they work on well mom/well baby units, but I'm unsure about L&D. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020305
Gemma Violet May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: Was it confirmed that it was definitely Abbie in the video? I skimmed the comments, and no one mentioned seeing her. I saw the video before it was blurred out and it looked like Abbie to me. From the places I've read, others are saying the same thing, some saying it's most definitely Abby, especially since Joy made reference to her "sister-in-law" working at the hospital. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020311
Absolom May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Working L&D would fit with the Duggar "women's work." It isn't too far off doula or midwife. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020314
Gemma Violet May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: I find it odd that Abbie is working now. Can you imagine how this will make JB's head explode? 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020315
Salacious Kitty May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Absolom said: Working L&D would fit with the Duggar "women's work." It isn't too far off doula or midwife. But when did she get trained for it? She was licensed as an LPN. AFAIK, that has nothing to do with L&D. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020318
the-grey-lady May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 Wow, Abbie might have a job. Wow, I never thought I'd be shocked at the thought of a 30-something adult being gainfully employed. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020322
Absolom May 28, 2023 Share May 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said: But when did she get trained for it? She was licensed as an LPN. AFAIK, that has nothing to do with L&D. I had both an LPN and an RN assigned to me when I was in L&D decades ago and my daughter had an LPN sent in to help her shower and clean up after the last delivery. Sometimes it isn't always easy to tell. She said there were two nurses to assist the OB with the delivery and I'm guessing they weren't both RNs. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/74/#findComment-8020347
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