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JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture


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15 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then?

Remember that Josh was only 14 or so when he molested his sisters. which means JD was just 12.  He wouldn't have had much choice but to toe the line at that point.  It is also probable that his parents told him a sanitized version of the story ('they were asleep', 'he only touched them through their clothes').  I'm not sure the average 12 year old would have a good grasp on the situation independent of their parents and JD was probably not as well informed as the average 12 year old.

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9 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then?

To be fair, all of the Duggar kids (except Josh) toed the family line before the AM reveal.  JB designed it that way.  JD wants to be a pilot and there's enough money for that plus daddy is buying the family planes.  JB's wedding gift of choice is a house further keeping his kids in his orbit and buying the loyalty of his new sons and daughters in law.  Not counting Amy, the only person to face the wrath of JB is Derick.  Even then, Michelle and Jill still have a relationship.  

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7 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Remember that Josh was only 14 or so when he molested his sisters. which means JD was just 12.  He wouldn't have had much choice but to toe the line at that point.  It is also probable that his parents told him a sanitized version of the story ('they were asleep', 'he only touched them through their clothes').  I'm not sure the average 12 year old would have a good grasp on the situation independent of their parents and JD was probably not as well informed as the average 12 year old.

Oh, I doubt the boys were told anything approaching the truth at the time of the molestations. They just knew that FF had done something bad and went away for a couple of months. Only Boobchelle and the four girls knew the truth, although at 5, Joy probably understood very little. I do wonder how much Jana knew?

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17 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

But between the scandals, did JD stand up for the FF? I get he was pissed after Ashley Madison, but what about before that? Did he toe the family line then?

Yes, he did. In a group interview with his adult siblings, he said that all the negative media attention over the molestation was just Satan at work.

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4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I never realized how warm AR & TN are in the fall. Fall camping is not a thing in New England, well at least not for the folks I know, as its much cooler here. 

It seems as if The Duggars and Bates are in full camping mode.

Yes everyone I know that likes to camp in the midwest does it May-September, but I think its in the 60F-70F range in AR right now which is nice for outdoor activities (says the person who is never outside if its below 55F unless there is a dog to walk or an outdoor Christmas display to look at).

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Right now the weather here is currently having highs of 60s, so it is very nice, but October is pretty notoriously mercurial. Last week, we went from 80 degrees to 22 degrees to back to 80 degrees in a couple of days. That's very normal, and I always hate it because it causes my allergies to go absolutely insane. 

In any event, the weather isn't predictable enough--at least to me--for there to be a set time when you go camping. You do it, as @Absolom said, when you won't die without AC, but when that is going to be can be very up in the air. It stayed super hot here well into October last year. This year has been more "normal."

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41 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I have always said they look very happy. I really think waiting and living life first before rushing out and getting married barely out of your teens worked for them. 

Or in your teens! Like Joy or Ben or Kendra.

26 & 28 is a typical age to get married in mainstream culture, and I can understand it might be harder for a lot of people to wait since in fundyland you’re not supposed to date or have sex in the interim, but I think they are well suited. 

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9 minutes ago, SMama said:

How old is Gracie? Abbie has a story up without showing her face. I wonder if that will last, and if it does good for the kids. Gracie knows her shapes, has the cutest little voice, and her speech is clearer than Henry’s. 

I think the angle of the reel was for the shill. They just posted this picture a few weeks ago. Gracie is a smart little cutie.

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I don't see John David having six.  Abbie has hyperemesis gravidarum and I can't see him wanting to put her through that another four times.  I was actually surprised they had a second child.  I think now that they have a girl and a boy, their family is complete.  

Quoting @Gemma Violet from the Michelle/JB thread.

I wasnt surprised JD and Abbie had a second child, most people that want children want at least 2, and Abbie/JD (while older by fundy standards) are still fairly young. Had they married in their mid 30s sure I could see them only having the 1.

If they have another it will be because Abby wants it, I can see JD being a good husband, actually thinking of his wife's well being. I dont see JD as being wrapped up in ego in having a bunch of kids. Although I think Joe/Kendra will hit double digits I think the same thing of Joe, that he genuinely loves his wife and SHE wants to have the babies, not that he is pressuring her or interested in the ego of procreating like JB was. Now to be fair to JB, I do try to be fair, if Michelle said she wasnt having any more kids at any point, that would've been the end of the discussion. JB gets ego from having so many kids but not as much ego as Michelle got.

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4 minutes ago, AstridM said:

JD has plenty of time to stay home with the kids.

I'm sure he does, but Abbie mentioned wanting to be a stay at home mom. I also think its common for followers to peg any curly haired female as Abbie.

And do LPNs work in Labor and Delivery? I know they work on well mom/well baby units, but I'm unsure about L&D.

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5 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Was it confirmed that it was definitely Abbie in the video? I skimmed the comments, and no one mentioned seeing her.

I saw the video before it was blurred out and it looked like Abbie to me.  From the places I've read, others are saying the same thing, some saying it's most definitely Abby, especially since Joy made reference to her "sister-in-law" working at the hospital. 

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22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

But when did she get trained for it? She was licensed as an LPN. AFAIK, that has nothing to do with L&D.

I had both an LPN and an RN assigned to me when I was in L&D decades ago and my daughter had an LPN sent in to help her shower and clean up after the last delivery.  Sometimes it isn't always easy to tell.  She said there were two nurses to assist the OB with the delivery and I'm guessing they weren't both RNs.  

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