S10.E08: Netflix & Pill

[mojoween]

Roseanne knew where the pills came from because I believe she said the boy pills were for someone with wisdom tooth surgery and I know she said the girl pills were for breast surgery, because she made some sort of crack that people noticing should be enough.  

Why people who had legit prescriptions for painkillers gave them away is beyond me.

Edited May 16, 2018 by mojoween

[Koalagirl]

1 hour ago, Ina123 said:

Yup and the more expensive a hotel/motel/ resort, the more they expect to put a hold on.

BTW. Roseanne left with a good supply of fresh fruit. Great continuity on the stealing. Not to mention the pills.

The hold is supposed to automatically clear out after a couple of days.  This poses a problem for people who are already near their credit limit.  I used to work in the general manager's  office of a hotel and often got calls from people who had taken a client out to dinner only to have their card declined because they were over the limit. They were angry and embarrassed.

[asabovesobelow]

Did the old show ever say how old Roseanne and Dan were when they got married? I was surprised to see their 45th anniversary. I know they married young, but I didn't think they were that young. I assumed they are now supposed to be in their early sixties.

The Aunt Jackie as a baby bird was equal parts funny and disturbing. 

I love the Darlene/Becky relationship, although I still struggle a little with Becky's acting. It could be just me.

And I was soooo disappointed when they went with the pill addiction. They're not desperate for stories yet. That could have held off for at least a season or two.

[BitterApple]

Just my best guess, but I'm assuming they got married at maybe 20-ish. IIRC, Roseanne was around 22 when she had Becky. 

Lecy's acting isn't the greatest, but I feel like she's making small but steady improvements from where she was on the first episode. 

[Lovecat]

30 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Roseanne knew where the pills came from because I believe she said the boy pills were for someone with wisdom tooth surgery and I know she said the girl pills were for breast surgery, because she made some sort of crack that people noticing should be enough.  

Why people who had legit prescriptions for painkillers gave them away is beyond me.

Ah, right, now I remember her mentioning the boob job.  I'm still not convinced Roseanne knew the people whose names were on the bottles, though; she could've been spinning a sarcastic tale as a smokescreen.  I'm going to have to watch that scene again.

[Rap541]

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Why people who had legit prescriptions for painkillers gave them away is beyond me.

Because painkillers are often grossly over prescribed. I had my wisdom teeth out. I was given a prescription for like forty Vicodin pills and... I took one and was ok. But I didn't throw the Vicodin out, I kept it in the event that the world ended and I needed to have trade goods with the biker overlords that ruled the post apocalyptic aftermath... 

But seriously, I was given a ridiculous amount of pills considering my pain level. The same thing happened when I had gall bladder surgery (the surgery was actually less painful than the gall stone pain) I ended up with a ton of pills and you're not supposed to flush them and if I had a friend or a family member who was having money problems but also had a pain issue, I can't say I wouldn't offer them up. Heck, when my dad passed away, my sister grabbed up his pain pills with "this will save me some money filling my prescription". 

I can totally believe that Roseanne got some of those pills from friends who knew she was having pain and money troubles. And according to the news, apparently opiods aren't that hard to get on the street these days...

[break21]

1 hour ago, Tenarife60 said:

I wonder why Roseanne didn't go to a public hospital for her surgery?  I have people in my family that do that.  My cousin's wife doesn't work and has always gone to the public, charity hospital whenever she's needed surgery or treatments and gets it for free.

I too wondered about Darlene getting her kids Medicaid, but in the state where I live I believe they have to be a single parent and destitute.  I don't think David and Darlene are divorced and David obviously has enough money that he bought a house in Lanford.  The rules might be different in different states.

A lot of places don't have charity hospitals.  Where I live, if you have a medical emergency a hospital will treat you but won't do surgery for a bum leg which is considered non-emergency.  You either come up with the money or you're not getting the surgery.

[TV Diva Queen]

2 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

While she isn't living the good life, Becky doesn't have any kids so all her expenses are for her. Darlene needs to pay for three people. So I can see why Crystal offered the job to her. 

Becky feeding her baby birds whipped cream was cute. I'd like to see her hang out with her niece and nephew more. I loved Darlene's "you can sit under a tree a play guitar with someone of every color" remark. I'm really liking the sister relationship with Darlene and Becky in the revival. They act like real siblings act. They make fun of each other but you know they love each other and want to help. DJ is still kind of there. 

It was obvious Roseanne was hoarding the pills, although how she managed to steal other people's pills is a mystery. I don't consider this show bleak, I consider it realistic. Most shows have the characters just get their dream jobs without ever having to work for it and they always have money for everything. That's not how most people live. Roseanne has always shown what it's really like for the working class while adding some humor to it. 

She's not stealing them, she asks friends that have had surgeries.  A couple years back when I had knee surgery, and I of course posted my recovery on social media....I had 7 private messages from people asking me if I was using all my pain pills.  Some wanted for their own consumption, some wanted to sell and split the profit with me.  

[BitterApple]

23 minutes ago, movingtargetgal said:

 And there is the restaurant, a business with a 90% failure rate.  

No offense to anybody in Iowa, but the idea of a loose meat sandwich makes me want to gag. Given that it was the Lunch Box's primary menu item, I could see a scenario where the town populace tired of it quickly. 

3 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

She's not stealing them, she asks friends that have had surgeries.  A couple years back when I had knee surgery, and I of course posted my recovery on social media....I had 7 private messages from people asking me if I was using all my pain pills.  Some wanted for their own consumption, some wanted to sell and split the profit with me.  

My mother underwent major surgery six years ago and she had the same thing happen to her.

[Ina123]

They gave me way too much pain meds for getting my teeth pulled for dentures. I gave them to my friend who had a spinal fusion for scoliosis. She has prescribed pain meds but it helped her expenses to get some for free.

I almost didn't get the prescription filled. With all the opioid problems I read about, I'm terrified of liking them too  much.

If they got married at 20 and celebrated their 45th anniversary, it makes them 65. Roseanne could apply and get SS and Medicare. Dan could apply in a year at 66 to get more or choose to wait longer.

[TV Diva Queen]

My burly union worker dude husband said "oh, that's sad" when Dan and Ro were turned away from the hotel.  He also said "can't they just put like $20 on their account and they can check in?"  I said "yes, they can, especially at that local hotel".  

[Sakura12]

2 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

I do not think Roseanne represents the working middle class. A lot of their problems came because they made bad mistakes. I also would love to know how Dan and Roseanne will pay for her physical therapy after her surgery.

 

That still sounds realistic to me. Everyone makes bad financial choices some just make more than others. I'm not saying that's a reason people are poor, but it is a factor for anyone when they find they don't have enough money to pay for something. 

I did feel bad about Roseanne and Dan not being able to stay at the hotel, but all hotels need a credit card even if you don't use it. That's how they charge you if you steal something besides the shampoos or soaps.  They will take cash if you ask. But I don't think they had any cash with them. 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Sakura12

[qtpye]

So, now both Roseanne's daughters are waitresses...nothing wrong with it, it is certainly honest hard work.  It does seem that they are much better at customer service than their mother used to be. 

It was also probably really realistic that you had to have an "in" to get the relatively good job at the casino.

Edited May 16, 2018 by qtpye

[Keywestclubkid]

2 hours ago, Lovecat said:

Oh, good point...I actually read this as Roseanne having made the rounds of several pill mills, getting prescriptions under different names, and paying cash to get them filled, but she also could have bought them from someone else.  Shady people get scripts from shady docs, fill them with their insurance, then sell them to other people for profit.  That's probably a more likely scenario than Roseanne stealing the bottles.  Dan didn't recognize any of the names on the bottles, did he?  How would she steal from strangers?  

the way it played to me is she knew each one and knew what they were taking the pills for ie the woman with the breast job that really didn't need them for pain....

2 hours ago, asabovesobelow said:

Did the old show ever say how old Roseanne and Dan were when they got married? I was surprised to see their 45th anniversary. I know they married young, but I didn't think they were that young. I assumed they are now supposed to be in their early sixties.

 

well they got married at 18 and  Becky got married at 17 and Darlene had Conner and got married at the rip old age of 18 (per the rant Rosanne gave in another mouth to shut up) but that would make Conner 20 now the new time line these writers have come up with is all messed up

Edited May 16, 2018 by Keywestclubkid
dan and Roseanne got married at 18

[JakeyJokes]

A friend who was newly in sobriety gave me prescription sleeping pills when I mentioned insomnia. People mean well.

I was really surprised they went with Roseanne as the pill thief (I thought for sure Harris or D.J.). That was a gutsy move.

Becky is stealth becoming the funniest character.

[ErinV]

Agreed that Roseanne got the pills from her friends, and that isn't so uncommon.  I, too, have a ton of leftover pain pills from minor surgeries.  My question is, is she actually addicted now?  Or is she just hoarding them?  I feel like with the lying and hiding, she is heading toward addiction, if she's not there yet.  And having the surgery isn't going to help if she's already addicted, right?  They'll give her more pills after her surgery, and then just because she isn't having pain doesn't mean she won't still take the pills.  
I thought Crystal looked good!
I have always loved Darlene and Becky's relationship.  But can't Darlene get an office temp job?  Is that still a thing?  Some temp agencies even offer benefits.  
The guy playing the hotel receptionist has been around forever and is hilarious!

[ThatsDarling]

3 hours ago, qtpye said:

So, now both Roseanne's daughters are waitresses...nothing wrong with it, it is certainly honest hard work.  It does seem that they are much better at customer service than their mother used to be. 

It was also probably really realistic that you had to have an "in" to get the relatively good job at the casino.

It seems you usually have to have an "in" to get any job anywhere these days. Even the competition for minimum wage jobs can be very stiff. 

Another good Roseanne line from this episode--"I would rather go home than stay here. And if you'd seen my home, you would realize what an insult that is!"

[iMonrey]

Good grief, this show seems determined to portray every societal ill it can think of. About all that's left is a mass school shooting. 

Some of this episode felt really clunky and forced IMO. The part where Darlene pretended it was her birthday, for example, so that Becky and the other waitstaff would have to sing. Becky could have just told her co-workers it was her sister and it wasn't really her birthday. It was just setup for the payoff at the end where Becky threatened Darlene with the same thing at the casino, except waitstaff at casinos don't usually do that like they do in restaurants. 

Jackie opening her mouth and flapping her arms like baby bird was gross and disturbing. What's wrong with this woman?

I've enjoyed this reboot for the most part but they are trying to do too much with just nine episodes and it's exhausting. They don't need to make social commentary about every damn thing in the news these days.

[peacheslatour]

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43 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

the way it played to me is she knew each one and knew what they were taking the pills for ie the woman with the breast job that really didn't need them for pain....

well they got married at 16 and  Becky got married at 17 and Darlene had Conner and got married at the rip old age of 18 (per the rant Rosanne gave in another mouth to shut up)

 

The entire family is stunned; Roseanne, however, is the first one to accept the situation.  After the rest of the family leaves early however, Dan expresses his anger to Roseanne that Darlene has thrown away her life and potential, just as Becky did (although Roseanne sarcastically remarks that it is progress, since Darlene did not elope and decided to marry at 19 rather than 17 or 18 as her mother and sister did). 

Source/Wikipedia

[Keywestclubkid]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

The entire family is stunned; Roseanne, however, is the first one to accept the situation.  After the rest of the family leaves early however, Dan expresses his anger to Roseanne that Darlene has thrown away her life and potential, just as Becky did (although Roseanne sarcastically remarks that it is progress, since Darlene did not elope and decided to marry at 19 rather than 17 or 18 as her mother and sister did). 

Source/Wikipedia

trying to figure out the time line on this show is now beyond stupid Conner should be how old if she had her at 19? did she get held back a lot? Becky got married at 17 cause Dan and Roseanne had the  fight of what to do? drag her back so she will just run off again in a year when she was 18 or leave her with Mark

Edited May 16, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[TigerLynx]

Dan and Roseanne did make a lot of bad choices when it came to their finances, but I also like the realism that Darlene with a college education can't just walk immediately into a high paying job.  I like the relationship between Darlene and Becky the best.

[qtpye]

7 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

trying to figure out the time line on this show is now beyond stupid Conner should be how old if she had her at 19? did she get held back a lot? Becky got married at 17 cause Dan and Roseanne had the  fight of what to do? drag her back so she will just run off again in a year when she was 18 or leave her with Mark

I remember Roseanne being afraid to get the marriage annulled because Becky would just run off and marry Mark again when she turned into an adult and then would never speak to them again because they forced her to annul the marriage in the first place.  Looking at hindsight being 20/20, I wonder if they had forced her to get annulment, would it have actually meant that Becky would be angry for a little while, then realized she had many more options for college than she realized and also coming to the understanding that she did not really have much in common with Mark when it came to life goals. In this reality, her life would have been much different. Marrying Mark ruined her life, not because he was a bad guy that was not worthy of her, but because his death at a young age stunted her maturity and emotional growth for about 20 years?

Just now, TigerLynx said:

Dan and Roseanne did make a lot of bad choices when it came to their finances, but I also like the realism that Darlene with a college education can't just walk immediately into a high paying job.  I like the relationship between Darlene and Becky the best.

Yes, it is a nice contrast to Jackie and Roseanne. They are not best friends joined at the hip in a counter-dependant relationship like their mother and their aunt, but you see how being in each other's lives could be beneficial to both. They call each other out on their faults and they both need that once in a while.

[bichonblitz]

The Conners most definitely should be on Medicare at age 65.  They wouldn't have had to come up with the entire $3,000 deductible at once as Roseanne said. My husband is on Medicare and only paid $900 towards deductible for open heart surgery which was hundreds of thousands of dollars including the hospital costs. 

Also, the Connors don't have a single credit card that they could use? That scene at the hotel was not funny to me.

When Darlene starts working she needs to contribute to the household as long as she's living there.

38 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Jackie opening her mouth and flapping her arms like baby bird was gross and disturbing. What's wrong with this woman?

Agree. Jackie is completely annoying and the character is being treated as a joke. Laurie Metcalf should be pissed. 

[hnygrl]

In/on my nightstand right now are prescriptions (from past surgeries, illnesses, etc.) for Vicodin, Oxycodon & Oxycontin.

I take NONE of them. I think I took one Vicodin one time and it made me so loopy and goofy I stopped taking it. These days I warn the Doctor ahead of time not to bother prescribing it cause I'm not taking it so I get prescribed either Motrin or Naproxyn. 

I can see Rosie buying pills off people. Some of Y'all's kids raid the medicine cabinet and sell that stuff. I'm sure if I had a teenager at home mine would've been sold/missing "oh I threw those out" as well.

I hope Becky goes to school. I hope Darlene either starts paying some bills around there or get her and her kids their own place. I also hope she wakes up and sues David for child support. What a loser he turned out to be.

I also found myself thinking "dang, can't this family have ANYTHING nice?" 

I was expecting the 45th anniversary to be a huge party at the Lodge, not dinner (that they had to pay for) at chi-chi's. Geeze that's pitiful...45 years with the same man/woman deserves a freaking party bigger than that. And they had to pay for their own hotel room. Her good-for-very-little kids couldn't get together and take care of that? No? You can't even pay the check for dinner? Okay then.

 

Depressing episode. I didn't laugh or even chuckle once....GOOD episode, but damned depressing.

[BitterApple]

Regarding Becky/Mark, I was recently watching the S4 episode where Becky finds out she has no college fund and pitches a fit. She throws out a nasty remark about going to community college and working at the grocery store, but in hindsight, what would've been so bad about that? 

I know she had to run off because they needed a way for Lecy to exit the show, but it's kind of a sad irony. If she ends up enrolling in that hospitality program and working at the Mexican place, she's essentially doing at 43 what she could've been doing at 18. I wonder if Becky will acknowledge that and realize what a bitter pill it is to swallow. 

[Ina123]

18 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

The Conners most definitely should be on Medicare at age 65.  They wouldn't have had to come up with the entire $3,000 deductible at once as Roseanne said. My husband is on Medicare and only paid $900 towards deductible for open heart surgery which was hundreds of thousands of dollars including the hospital costs. 

 

If they had Medicare AND a small supplemental they would hardly pay anything. Even without the supplemental they should be able to scrape enough together or work out a monthly payment plan. My sister had no insurance and worked out a payment plan.

[MicheleL4]

17 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

So I will say while I appreciate that the show is trying to stay at least semi-realistic, how much bleaker can things get?  I mean, even when they had the power shut off on the original show, it still felt like there was an underlying sense of humor and hope.  Now, I just find things really depressing.  At this point, my question is: what's next?  Roseanne hooking on the street corner to get her pill fix?  I'm not saying I want the show to be just another sitcom, but I feel like there is a way to tell this story without making it like this.  

I agree with this.  It was one thing for Dan and Roseanne to be dirt poor when they were young and they were raising their family but supposedly 20 years have gone by and they're no better off now than they were then?  What have they been doing with their money all these years?  Shouldn't their house at least be paid off by now?  Their kids have been gone for years.  

[Bastet]

Roseanne probably got some of the pills from people she met via Uber driving.

[willowk]

Good episode, liked that it ended with Dan thinking he had found all the pills and then Roseanne reassuring herself that there was still some in the ice pack -devious of her. Darlene may find her writing will improve with less worries about money -totally believable that she would have to do something not related to her degree to earn money. I've said to myself and friends often that you have to try to find something you like, or can at least tolerate, that someone's willing to pay you to do. In today's world so many jobs have become automated or taken over by computer software.  I heard ABC made a point of saying that next season Roseanne would move away from politics, but I wish they wouldn't do that. I don't think its been that heavy on it now, and if they lessen it basically they plan to make all political references disappear.

[qtpye]

28 minutes ago, hnygrl said:

In/on my nightstand right now are prescriptions (from past surgeries, illnesses, etc.) for Vicodin, Oxycodon & Oxycontin.

I take NONE of them. I think I took one Vicodin one time and it made me so loopy and goofy I stopped taking it. These days I warn the Doctor ahead of time not to bother prescribing it cause I'm not taking it so I get prescribed either Motrin or Naproxyn. 

I can see Rosie buying pills off people. Some of Y'all's kids raid the medicine cabinet and sell that stuff. I'm sure if I had a teenager at home mine would've been sold/missing "oh I threw those out" as well.

I hope Becky goes to school. I hope Darlene either starts paying some bills around there or get her and her kids their own place. I also hope she wakes up and sues David for child support. What a loser he turned out to be.

I also found myself thinking "dang, can't this family have ANYTHING nice?" 

I was expecting the 45th anniversary to be a huge party at the Lodge, not dinner (that they had to pay for) at chi-chi's. Geeze that's pitiful...45 years with the same man/woman deserves a freaking party bigger than that. And they had to pay for their own hotel room. Her good-for-very-little kids couldn't get together and take care of that? No? You can't even pay the check for dinner? Okay then.

 

Depressing episode. I didn't laugh or even chuckle once....GOOD episode, but damned depressing.

 

13 minutes ago, MicheleL4 said:

I agree with this.  It was one thing for Dan and Roseanne to be dirt poor when they were young and they were raising their family but supposedly 20 years have gone by and they're no better off now than they were then?  What have they been doing with their money all these years?  Shouldn't their house at least be paid off by now?  Their kids have been gone for years.  

It was particularly sad when the bill came and having three middle age kids that could not even afford to treat their parents out to dinner, not even thinking to split the bill three ways. Dan and Roseanne have not always been great providers but they are always there for the kids. This is not even lack of progress...it is a family falling down the economic ladder and I do not have a whole lot of hope for the incoming Gen Z Connors.

[MicheleL4]

4 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

I thought Dan got the chair from one of his neighbors (or stole it from one of his neighbors.)

Yes.  It was free.  

[willowk]

24 minutes ago, Ina123 said:

If they had Medicare AND a small supplemental they would hardly pay anything. Even without the supplemental they should be able to scrape enough together or work out a monthly payment plan. My sister had no insurance and worked out a payment plan.

I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've had a few surgeries in my time, and if you have insurance (which they do as Dan mentioned the deductible) you can pay off the rest over time. The hospitals try to get you to give them your credit card for the balance but you don't have to do it. Then you are billed and I send in what I can afford. Usually they are okay with it, there is a chance if you are too slow they will send to collection, but I can't think something like that would bother the Connors much.

[Tenarife60]

13 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Roseanne probably got some of the pills from people she met via Uber driving.

I wondered how she could even be an Uber driver with a pill addiction. I thought they would be given random drug tests.

[peacheslatour]

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Good episode, liked that it ended with Dan thinking he had found all the pills and then Roseanne reassuring herself that there was still some in the ice pack -devious of her. 

Typical addict behavior. I know because I am one. Cigarettes. I used to use drugs back in the seventies and I quit all of them except cigarettes. My doctor told me they're worse than heroin. 

1 minute ago, Tenarife60 said:

I wondered how she could even be an Uber driver with a pill addiction. I thought they would be given random drug tests.

Not if they are prescribed to her by a doctor.

[Keywestclubkid]

Question if the conners are so broke how the hell is rosie bying bottles of pills from people it makes no sense. The only logical way is for her to be stealing them.  some pills go for 8, 9, 10 bucks a pill and that’s on the cheap end some go has high has $60 $70 (street value). When you are poor that’s a lot of money so I don’t  see her buying bottles of pills like she had. There are websites that you can google that tell you how much per pill street value is. And if she was spending that much money dan or someone would have noticed. 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[bigskygirl]

18 minutes ago, Ina123 said:

By the way, I just finished watching Season 1 again. We were discussing the poor acting in posts above. Season 1 acting was just awful, but I still laughed. And in the really superficial department, John Goodman looks so much better with a good haircut.

I thought Season One and Two of the original series is much better than the revival.

If Dan and/or Roseanne signed up for Medicare, they would need to pay Medicare Premiums. The premiums are not cheap. My husband was on Medicare when he was on dialysis for three years, and for the first three years after his kidney transplant, and they were not cheap even with the both of us working.

[TattleTeeny]

39 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Question if the conners are so broke how the hell is rosie bying bottles of pills from people it makes no sense. The only logical way is for her to be stealing them.  some pills go for 8, 9, 10 bucks a pill and that’s on the cheap end some go has high has $60 $70 (street value). When you are poor that’s a lot of money so I don’t  see her buying bottles of pills like she had. There are websites that you can google that tell you how much per pill street value is. And if she was spending that much money dan or someone would have noticed. 

 

I don't think it was a deep as all that--seems like she just somehow knew a few randoms that didn't want their pills anymore, and possibly made a few bucks from Roseanne on the resell. If those people didn't have to pay OOP for them anyway because of insurance coverage, they'd make some money regardless of whether they charged her the street value of the drugs or not, like if I sold my own Vicodins after not paying outright for them and not using them for my wisdom teeth.

Edited May 16, 2018 by TattleTeeny

[geauxaway]

42 minutes ago, willowk said:

I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've had a few surgeries in my time, and if you have insurance (which they do as Dan mentioned the deductible) you can pay off the rest over time. The hospitals try to get you to give them your credit card for the balance but you don't have to do it. Then you are billed and I send in what I can afford. Usually they are okay with it, there is a chance if you are too slow they will send to collection, but I can't think something like that would bother the Connors much.

I was just coming to say the same thing.  Worst case the bills go to medical collections, which is fairly common and the Connor’s most likely have shit credit anyway so what would they care?

[Keywestclubkid]

7 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

I don't think it was a deep as all that--seems like she just somehow knew a few randoms that didn't want their pills anymore, and possibly made a few bucks from Roseanne on the resell. If those people didn't have to pay OOP for them anyway because of insurance coverage, they'd make some money regardless of whether they charged her the street value of the drugs or not. Like if I sold my own Vicodins after not paying outright for them and not using them for my wisdom teeth.

 

It’s not that deep? Those were her back up pills 3 bottles worth plus the baggie in the water bottle how many friends does she have that will just give complete bottles of pills away? I mean if they aren’t gonna take them they are gonna try to make money off them if they are that poor.  I mean they are apparently in a poor poor town. Who just gives these things away?They way she was talking she was eating them like candy. 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[geauxaway]

No matter how or where she obtained the pills, really dumb to keep them in the original bottles with the original owners names on them.  Not only on her part, but also on the part of whoever gave them to her.   That part rang false to me, any junkie or pill trader / dealer is going to cover their tracks.   Or should be anyway...

[methodwriter85]

15 hours ago, ThatsDarling said:

College-educated, published writer Darlene working as a server at a casino felt very real. I know all too well that higher education and years of experience, especially in a creative field, don't necessarily mean much when it comes to finding sustainable employment. I think the show is doing a good job of showing that economic success is not the report card of life. 

I'm in my early 30's with a liberal arts master's degree that I'm in 80k debt for. I also live at home and work at a movie theater while volunteering at a museum so I can still feel involved with the field. Darlene's speech about feeling like she's giving up really spoke to me. That's how I felt when I finally broke down at got the job at the theater.  Hell, it was hard to get in there.

Getting a job is really, really hard. I've thought a lot about going back to community college and getting a more practical degree because I don't want to be in my early 40's like the Darlene/Becky are and still dealing with this.

Although maybe Darlene could consider becoming a teacher? That could open up some interesting storylines.

[Bastet]

13 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Those were her back up pills 3 bottles worth plus the baggie in the water bottle how many friends does she have that will just give complete bottles of pills away?

I don't assume people handed over full bottles; in fact, the opposite - I think people gave/sold/traded for a ride their leftover pills (they were prescribed X number of pills, only took a percentage of them, and thus had some rattling around in the medicine cabinet, it came up in conversation that Roseanne was taking the same pills for chronic knee pain, and voila - over time, Roseanne accumulates a stash of pills).

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, Bastet said:

I don't assume people handed over full bottles; in fact, the opposite - I think people gave/sold/traded for a ride their leftover pills (they were prescribed X number of pills, only took a percentage of them, and thus had some rattling around in the medicine cabinet, it came up in conversation that Roseanne was taking the same pills for chronic knee pain, and voila - over time, Roseanne accumulates a stash of pills).

I’m just gonna blame it on the sloppy writing 

[Showthyme]

I wanted to see Roseanne and Dan having a trailer trash moment during their stay at the hotel: taking baggies of bacon from the breakfast buffet, mooning people out at the pool, taking home the soap, shampoo and even the toilet paper roll. Instead, we see them get their credit card declined. 

It is disappointing that the show is tossing so much negativity into each interaction. It is political and not fun. 

And no, to Roseanne being addicted to opiates. It is too depressing with all of the other story lines on the show. 

[Calm81]

Pet peeve of mine, but why do hotel clerks, butlers, and other people that work for rich people act all snobby and snooty??

The hotel clerk in the movie “Home alone,” the hotel clerk on this show, Jeffrey on the fresh prince of bel-air, etc, etc...it’s like they work for the rich people for so long that they too start to think they’re rich because they rub elbows with them a lot?? Don’t get me wrong it’s hilarious I’m just curious as to why this happens.

I loved “you can sit under a tree and play the guitar with a friend of every color!” ?

I like it when Jackie reverts back to lanford PD. She was much more toned down in this episode.

I really hope next season shows Becky in her first semester of class and finds her studious spark, again!! I miss the Becky that enjoyed getting straight A’s and being an integral part of her class student body. 

I’d like to see Darlene develop a creative outcome from her time at the casino - make a really good book about her life as a daughter of working class people to her road to being the first in her family to go to college to end up at a casino showing people anything could happen with or without college education and how she then picked herself up from the abyss with two kids and did what she had to do to feed them.

I wasn’t too happy about Roseanne being addicted to opioids ...too much depression for one family - I  want some more episodes of the Conners having some good times, like ...Couldn’t they have at least got to enjoy their free hotel with their credit card points that they EARNED?? That made me sad lol. 

 

I still ❤️ the Conners 

[Mmmfloorpie]

18 minutes ago, Showthyme said:

I wanted to see Roseanne and Dan having a trailer trash moment during their stay at the hotel: taking baggies of bacon from the breakfast buffet, mooning people out at the pool, taking home the soap, shampoo and even the toilet paper roll. Instead, we see them get their credit card declined. 

It is disappointing that the show is tossing so much negativity into each interaction. It is political and not fun. 

And no, to Roseanne being addicted to opiates. It is too depressing with all of the other story lines on the show. 

All these pointless scenes are lazy writing. They only went to the hotel to kill 5 minutes. They only went to the dog shelter in a previous ep to kill 5 minutes. It's sad they have no clue where to take the show.

You'd think after 21 years of being off the air they would be jam packing every single episode to the brim. 

Nope.

Will be interesting to see if there's more of a connective plot in the next season or if they will continue making these "bottle" episodes that have no link to the original series or even other episodes in the season.

Edited May 16, 2018 by Mmmfloorpie

[FairyDusted]

16 hours ago, Bastet said:

They put it through as a hold - a future charge of up to X dollars.  Standard practice.  They'll also take cash, which wasn't mentioned, but Dan and Roseanne probably didn't have enough on hand anyway!

I love the kids passing around the check for Dan and Roseanne’s anniversary dinner, and Darlene offering to “babysit” her own kids as her gift to them for the occasion.  Yep, these are the Conners.

I was spoiled for “You have a Honey-Baked day, too” from the online promos back at the beginning of the season, but I still laughed.  I was spoiled for several segments of this episode, actually, but still enjoyed seeing it all come together; this was a good episode.

Jackie channeling her “back when I was on the force” self to investigate the supposed opioid theft was great.  I also loved the return of Dan’s “Zut Alors!” exclamation when Roseanne talks about sexy times.  Two great callbacks.  And Darlene feeling like the cocktail waitress job would be giving up, and Dan saying sometimes you have to suck it up because of your responsibilities, was one of those things on which the series is founded.  Overall, this was another episode that felt old school.

Crystal recommending Darlene, instead of Becky who actually has server experience, for her old job was something I was curious about based just on reading it, but it played much better – Becky has a job, and Darlene is looking for one (and has kids to support), so Crystal’s thought process made sense.  (That’s not something I say often!)  Becky and Darlene’s conversation about their respective job options was great – especially Becky challenging because Darlene has kids, her problems will always be more important than Becky’s?  Spot on commentary of a conundrum when resources are limited.  As was the “I work full time; I don’t have time to go to school” aspect of the conversation.

Aunt Becky doing “Baby Birds” with the kids and Jackie trying to join in was fun.  Becky’s laugh at Darlene’s barmaid uniform reveal was everything.

“And when your back goes out, you lay on the couch for two weeks and I wait on you hand and foot.  What happens when my knee hurts?” was great, along with them trying to come up with the deductible for Roseanne’s surgery.  I think they struck a good balance with the pills, touching on both addiction and “I’m hoarding pills [yet not taking them now] because I don’t know that I’ll get more in future” practicality.

Becky’s birthday revenge was great, and then of course Darlene got even; a good tag is another callback.

“Oh, no, Sir – ‘superior deluxe’ is our lowest-level room.”  The actor playing the snooty clerk has played a snooty character in everything in which I’ve ever seen him.

Sums up my highlight reel! I want to marry this post. 

[bichonblitz]

1 hour ago, qtpye said:

It was particularly sad when the bill came and having three middle age kids that could not even afford to treat their parents out to dinner, not even thinking to split the bill three ways. Dan and Roseanne have not always been great providers but they are always there for the kids

I think Roseanne and Dan were pretty good providers. They didn't lose their house, they managed to get their mortgage payments made and raise all of their kids there. There was always food on the table and trips to the mall to buy them clothes and shoes. Sure, they had to struggle, money was tight, they had to jocky money around to get the utilities paid sometimes, but when one of them was out of work they always managed to find other work, even if they hated the jobs they found. So I would say that was being a good provider. 

[chitowngirl]

The bike shop would have made sense when Roseanne was working at the plastics factory. She had a dependable income there.

Roseanne might be getting the pills from friends by telling them she’ll take them to the prescription drop off that communities have for unused pills.

[AM1418]

1 hour ago, Calm81 said:

I wasn’t too happy about Roseanne being addicted to opioids ...too much depression for one family - I  want some more episodes of the Conners having some good times, like ...Couldn’t they have at least got to enjoy their free hotel with their credit card points that they EARNED?? That made me sad lol. 

 

I still ❤️ the Conners 

It makes me long for the Lobo and the bowling alley. Some of their best episodes were at the Lobo, the Lodge, or the bowling alley.