"The View": Week Of 4/30/18

[Tanichka]

19 minutes ago, rickhurst3186 said:

She is terrified of Kathy Griffin.

I don't think she is!  She's so delusional, she thinks she can hold her own with wittier/smarter people.

[Haleth]

6 minutes ago, backformore said:

.  Since "FoxNews" is actually in the entertainment business, not the news business, maybe all those percentages of people who don't trust the media are talking about Fox News, not actual journalists. 

That was my take.  Fox has been doing fake news for decades.

I wonder what Meghan did with all her words for Kathy Griffin.  Probably put them in the fridge to save for the next liberal guest so they don't go bad.

Serena's baby is adorable. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Haleth

[rickhurst3186]

MM has mentioned her "producer" for the 3rd time today. Is it me or does it sound like she Is setting up someone to throw under the bus for one of her idiotic statements?

[Tanichka]

20 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

He also repudiated her in public, on his show. He could have expressed his disagreement, as required, by his employers, without, making it personal.  He did not have to end their friendship.  

Sometimes friends do something so distasteful or against your values, you have to dump them.

[blondiec0332]

10 minutes ago, Haleth said:

That was my take.  Fox has been doing fake news for decades.

"Fake news" and "alternative facts" only became a thing when this administration wanted to discount what was being reported.

[GoldenGirl90]

I had to rewatch this glorious moment.

Meghan: I just feel like sometimes you wanna line  up Conservatives and throw grapefruits at us because, again, I’m just trying to -

Whoopi: Who?!

*whole table erupts in an attempt to explain to her, for the umpteenth time, that this isn’t the case*

Whoopi: *pounds fist on table* That’s what I want you to stop doing - I want you to stop doing that. I want you to stop saying that because, ya know, that’s not helping the dialogue. I learned this from you.

*Insert Meghan looking stupid*

Meghan: I’m happy not to say anything people -

Whoopi: No, no, no Meghan, I’m not saying - 

*Meghan continues to whine; apologizes to Sunny and says she didn’t know that she was a journalist* 

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Whoopi for FINALLY taking her to task, several times during this segment. Oh, and stop apologizing to her. 

[blondiec0332]

24 minutes ago, backformore said:

PLUS -  Stop quoting statistics, Meghan, without backing it up with - who was polled, what were the questions, how exactly were the questions worded, when did this survey take place?   Because 77%, 88%, 66% - means nothing without context.  Since "FoxNews" is actually in the entertainment business, not the news business, maybe all those percentages of people who don't trust the media are talking about Fox News, not actual journalists. 

Meghan was trying to make it sound like people are distrusting certain news organizations (and I'm sure we know which ones) but like you said Backformore those statistics were probably talking about all news organizations.  And  nowadays just about anyone and anything can call themselves a new organization.  Millions of people get there news from Facebook.  Is Facebook a news organization?

[Former Nun]

54 minutes ago, rickhurst3186 said:

I'm a gay male and I don't know of a single gay man who likes her even a little bit. 

There is the desperate Clay...

[Watchingtv]

Fake news and the mainstream media having a liberal bias was a Breitbart talking point for years and years. It’s how they were trying to legitimize their spin and rile up the Tea Party. Trump got it from there and now it’s gone viral.

I do think the question of whether people trust the news media is very vague. I have a parent who seems to think the phrase “social media” refers to the news. I personally don’t trust Fox, Conservative News Network, Breitbart, Infowars, and probably others I see people online reference but I am blanking on right now. I generally trust mainstream news agencies otherwise, with the knowledge that they can sometimes be manipulated, rush to put out a story too quickly, and sometimes just make mistakes. I’d guess quite a few people feel similarly, and in a general question about whether they trust the news, maybe not clearly be able to say yes. Basically, it’s too complex and nuanced and I think the hosts missed that when they discussed it today. 

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, Tanichka said:

Sometimes friends do something so distasteful or against your values, you have to dump them.

That's true. And sometimes people are two-faced, which is how I see Anderson at this point.

[Former Nun]

16 hours ago, bannana said:

And it is funny cause she actually looked pretty good at the WHCD.  Not her usual school marm look, and no pearls in sight.  And she smiled a few times.

I heard (I need to find the articles) that at the awards portion of the WHCD--and the awards and scholarship are what the dinner is really all about...others stood up for the winners, but Miss Sarah did not.  Kind of obvious at a head table.  Any truth to that?

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

There is the desperate Clay...

Still hard to believe. And he defends the vile things she says, too.

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

9 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

There is the desperate Clay...

Still hard to believe. And he defends the vile things she says, too.

I've said many times I simply do not understand that friendship.  

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, Watchingtv said:

Fake news and the mainstream media having a liberal bias was a Breitbart talking point for years and years. It’s how they were trying to legitimize their spin and rile up the Tea Party. Trump got it from there and now it’s gone viral.

I do think the question of whether people trust the news media is very vague. I have a parent who seems to think the phrase “social media” refers to the news. I personally don’t trust Fox, Conservative News Network, Breitbart, Infowars, and probably others I see people online reference but I am blanking on right now. I generally trust mainstream news agencies otherwise, with the knowledge that they can sometimes be manipulated, rush to put out a story too quickly, and sometimes just make mistakes. I’d guess quite a few people feel similarly, and in a general question about whether they trust the news, maybe not clearly be able to say yes. Basically, it’s too complex and nuanced and I think the hosts missed that when they discussed it today. 

To be fair, that talking point goes back, as far as, Nixon. In fact, he lamented, not having a news organization, where he could disseminate his versions of the facts. He too hated the mainstream media, railed against them and was friends with the late Roger Ailes who later created Fox news...

Edited May 1, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GoldenGirl90]

11 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

I heard (I need to find the articles) that at the awards portion of the WHCD--and the awards and scholarship are what the dinner is really all about...others stood up for the winners, but Miss Sarah did not.  Kind of obvious at a head table.  Any truth to that?

She stood up for certain award winners. When Jake Tapper and other CNN journalists won an award, she remained seated while everyone else at the table stood up.

[backformore]

I remember a class I took, where polls and statistics were discussed.  the example used was the topic of abortion, because that's the one where it's easiest to illustrate the opposing points of view.   Basically, the idea is this:

If you ask "do you agree that all babies have the right to live full complete lives?"   You can get a high positive response, and report that a vast majority of people are pro-life and against abortion.  (even though that's not what you asked) 

If you ask "do you support an individual's right to make decisions about their bodies and their health?"  you get a high percentage of people who are pro-choice and for abortion rights. (again, that's not what you asked) 

the truth, though, has nothing to do with either of those questions, because the topic is more nuanced than that. But people will still use the statistic that fits their agenda.  When people hear that 88% of people feel, think, or behave a certain way, it gives legitimacy to that point of view.  Even though it's based on a fallacy. 

So when Meghan constantly spits out numbers to prove her point, it makes me angry.  Because she's not telling the whole thing. 

What also upset me is that she has as her mission, telling us what republicans think.   No, Meghan.  the show is The View.  Tell us what YOU think, not what MAGA-hat wearing guys at the gas station think, not what "pundints"  think, not what your father, husband, or friends think.  I  would have a least a little bit of respect for her if she would speak about her own opinions, and not feel the need to speak for "conservatives everywhere."   Nobody else on the panel feels the need to speak for a group, they each give their own views. She should do the same.

[movingtargetgal]

25 minutes ago, backformore said:

PLUS -  Stop quoting statistics, Meghan, without backing it up with - who was polled, what were the questions, how exactly were the questions worded, when did this survey take place?   Because 77%, 88%, 66% - means nothing without context.  Since "FoxNews" is actually in the entertainment business, not the news business, maybe all those percentages of people who don't trust the media are talking about Fox News, not actual journalists. 

When I was in college I took a Research and Statistics class.  The professor worked on several state and presidential primary campaigns (I live in NH).  He taught us how important the wording of the questions  and which people are chosen to participate in the survey, are to getting an accurate result.  What really blew my mind in this class was the professor showing us how questions were worded to get the result that (in his work) the candidate wanted.  Also, the people who were polled often came from the same towns where the candidates had won by a wide margin in previous elections.  BACKFORMORE you are 1000% right when you say that the context of a survey is so important.  Anyone can come out with the numbers they are looking for if they manipulate how the survey is done.  There are legitimate surveys created by ethical people.  However, there are many "flawed" surveys out there and it is important to look into how the survey was done and who the survey is being done for.  Never take 77%. 88% and 66% at face value.  Anyone can throw figures out there it does not mean their "results" are accurate.  Sometimes they are outright  fraudulent.

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, backformore said:

What also upset me is that she has as her mission, telling us what republicans think.   No, Meghan.  the show is The View.  Tell us what YOU think, not what MAGA-hat wearing guys at the gas station think, not what "pundints"  think, not what your father, husband, or friends think. 

This reminds me of Elisabeth who always had a "friend" she would use when she wanted to say something without having to say it was her who felt or believed something.  

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, backformore said:

What also upset me is that she has as her mission, telling us what republicans think.   No, Meghan.  the show is The View.  Tell us what YOU think, not what MAGA-hat wearing guys at the gas station think, not what "pundints"  think, not what your father, husband, or friends think.  I  would have a least a little bit of respect for her if she would speak about her own opinions, and not feel the need to speak for "conservatives everywhere."   Nobody else on the panel feels the need to speak for a group, they each give their own views. She should do the same.

She does not have a legitimate point of view. She has to always spit the party line. She sees these women, as her enemies.  It is why she gets flustered when her view is challenged and she gets nasty. Like today, when she snidely asked Sunny, if she was a journalist. Sunny's retort was a thing of beauty.   Once again, Megan looked like the fool that she is..

[backformore]

@movingtargetgal - yes, thank you.  I worked as a researcher for a few years, and there is a huge difference between an actual scientific survey and a survey done to prove the point that you have pre-determined that you want to make. 

[PradaKitty]

Shut. Up. Meghan. 

(What a loser...) 

[blondiec0332]

3 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

She does not have a legitimate point of view. She has to always spit the party line.

Makes me wonder if she hadn't been born into that family if she would still have the same views.  Nature vs nurture.

[OnTime]

When I give someone a gift (this includes my time to go buy it, wrap it and often mail it) I would expect to get a thank you note. Now I say, "expect" because I rarely get one.

I think it really is sad that it seems like a big deal to write a thank you note, when it takes five minutes.

I can't remember who (maybe Sara...) acted like it was an effort to write a thank you note.  I don't have the energy to watch it again.

[pachebo]

Re: KG segment, near the end, she talks about reading a funny death threat in her act. Whoopi says, "and we want to hear more" then KG says, " oh, we are coming back?", WG says "no, we are not coming back"..... blah blah "we'll be right back". Call me petty, but WG has to be the worst "moderator" ever!

[atlantaloves]

Okay guys and gals, this episode sounds like a two martini show, so I shall hold out till, let's say around 4:00 to shake out a couple (hey, I'm retired and could drink all day if I wanted, so I think I'm kinda controlling myself).  I can't wait to see Sunny SHUT HER DOWN! And Rick, welcome aboard, this site is great, I was yapping on it when it use to be called Television Without Pity. Any of you guys remember that site? Great people here! Oh, and Fuck you Meghan. Okay, now I feel better.  Taa Taa.  Burp. ? 

[DB in CMH]

Good god that was fucking mess. For having such great panelists (Joy, Sara and Sunny), why can't they put together a better show? Today perfectly demonstrated why MM has to go. When the discussion turns from a fight about things to a fight about fighting, it's time to change.

[Silver Raven]

Ugh, this show is so much more enjoyable when Meggy isn't there.  She just ratchets up the tension.

[Poohbear617]

I miss Ana from yesterday.  She does not March the party line and can be passionate about something without being disrespectful and unprofessional, so unlike RBM. I have liked Ana ever since she yelled at KellyAnn when "grab em by the pussy" first broke.  If u don't know, Ana and KA and others on a nighttime political show (think it was CNN), Ana kept saying the word Pussy and KA yelled at her to stop cause her daughter was watching and Ana shot back "Your mad/embarrassed at me but it's OK for the guy who wants to become president!" Brilliant, and available on youtube. 

I Tried to quote an earlier poster who also agrees how Ana communicates her feelings well without screeching and talks from the heart,but could not get it to work. I wanted to add I think there is 1 more..Nicole Wallace.  I had no idea who she was when she joined but she was a great change from Elizabeth and better than Jed or Meghan..but of course they fired her. Well thanks View, because now I watch her MSNBC show Deadline:Washington everyday and she is great. 

Other Republicans/conservatives like Nicole and Ana exist, hire them. Don't sell your viewers short, they will watch intelligent debate over a screaming match. Get rid of the twit.

[GoldenGirl90]

3 minutes ago, Poohbear617 said:

If u don't know, Ana and KA and others on a nighttime political show (think it was CNN), Ana kept saying the word Pussy and KA yelled at her to stop cause her daughter was watching and Ana shot back "Your mad/embarrassed at me but it's OK for the guy who wants to become president!" Brilliant, and available on youtube. 

I know what you're talking about because I was cheering Ana on through my television screen but the woman was Scottie Neil Hughes, not Kellyanne Conway.

[Jan Levenson]

I wish there was a video that showed all of Meghan’s flipflops.  Today she respects journalists, but a couple of months ago she told us this is why I hate journalists! 

Meghan, if it’s “a gift to conservatives” that there’s a backlash to the White House Correspondent’s Dinner, what problems are you trying to get us to sympathize with?  Seriously.  This is their big win? If there really is animosity towards conservatives, it’s because people like Meghan tell audiences their biggest problems are comedians and families wanting to impose gun control.    

Again, Meghan, Flint still needs clean water.  You don’t understand middle class people.

[Tosia]

3 hours ago, Tanichka said:

I don't think she is!  She's so delusional, she thinks she can hold her own with wittier/smarter people.

I agree, that she's delusional,  Tanichka, and fortunately they keep proving Meh-gan  wrong every single time she tries gotcha questions or phony stats. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Tosia

[LIMOM]

30 minutes ago, Poohbear617 said:

I miss Ana from yesterday.  She does not March the party line and can be passionate about something without being disrespectful and unprofessional, so unlike RBM. I have liked Ana ever since she yelled at KellyAnn when "grab em by the pussy" first broke.  If u don't know, Ana and KA and others on a nighttime political show (think it was CNN), Ana kept saying the word Pussy and KA yelled at her to stop cause her daughter was watching and Ana shot back "Your mad/embarrassed at me but it's OK for the guy who wants to become president!" Brilliant, and available on youtube. 

I Tried to quote an earlier poster who also agrees how Ana communicates her feelings well without screeching and talks from the heart,but could not get it to work. I wanted to add I think there is 1 more..Nicole Wallace.  I had no idea who she was when she joined but she was a great change from Elizabeth and better than Jed or Meghan..but of course they fired her. Well thanks View, because now I watch her MSNBC show Deadline:Washington everyday and she is great. 

Other Republicans/conservatives like Nicole and Ana exist, hire them. Don't sell your viewers short, they will watch intelligent debate over a screaming match. Get rid of the twit.

She won me over by standing up to the pressure of ignoring the racist rhetoric that “ all Mexican are rapists”.

Too many Rep folded. My hat off to Ana.

Edited May 1, 2018 by LIMOM

[deirdra]

3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

Oh Meggie, Meggie!!  Quoting Tommy Smothers:  "When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished."

That perfectly describes her.  She keeps talking without taking breaths so that nobody can get a word in edgewise and just digs herself into a deeper hole.

[bannana]

The show today was a "big fat gift" to people who cannot stand Elsa.

Here's an article on it.  https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210563560

Without rewatching, here were Elsa's points:

• she's been to the WHCA dinner with her father and she now refuses to go because there were too many celebs there and she didn't think that was right.
• the WHCA fundraising has gone up more than the amount of scholarships they dole out, so they should just cancel the dinner altogether.
• non-republican journalists called out MW for attacking SHS's looks.
• this is a big fat gift to Trump.
• the majority of Americans think all news is fake news.
• Sunny is not a journalist.
• Joy was making faces like she disagrees with Elsa, while she Elsa was trying to make whatever point she was making.
• the audience is responding to some sort of applause prompt, and everyone wants to throw grapefruits at Elsa as the standin for repubs.
• NOBODY LIKES HER!
• SHE IS JUST TRYING TO EDUCATE THEM!

Now Whoopi, for once, fought back.  She pointed out that men were insulted for their appearance, like McConnell, but no one has mentioned that or seems concerned.  Elsa had nothing to say that.  Whoopi took umbrage at other things she said, and then tried to tell her to stop educating them, but then it went off the rails again.  Joy shot back on the audience thing, which was perfect.  And Sunny was very firm in saying the event was worthwhile, she had actually attended.  And then there was the messy, are  you a journalist, and Sunny says, yes, I have a journalism degree, and then Elsa got completely flummoxed and her whole head went red, and she tried to apologize but she just sounded stupid.

[deirdra]

41 minutes ago, Poohbear617 said:

Other Republicans/conservatives like Nicole and Ana exist, hire them. Don't sell your viewers short, they will watch intelligent debate over a screaming match. Get rid of the twit.

It is also ridiculous that MM thinks she is speaking for all Republicans, because Nicole & Ana don't follow the party line 100%, nor do they have husbands who provide them with stacks of cue cards full of out-of-context statistics.

Elsa's entire head, neck and arms went red when Sunny mentioned her journalism degree.  Did the twit not bother to read up on her co-panelists' bios before taking the job?  What a twit!

It was nice to have Joy, Sunny & Whoopi call her out for a change but now MM will scream that the entire panel and producers are conspiring against her.  MM should re-watch the show to see that it was she herself that started it all.

Edited May 1, 2018 by deirdra

[bannana]

I forgot one:

I JUST WON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL THEN!  WAH WAH WAH!!!!

[Jan Levenson]

Just now, bannana said:

I forgot one:

I JUST WON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL THEN!  WAH WAH WAH!!!!

I know.  Please, Meghan put in your two weeks.  There are many people who aren’t trying to push talking points, who read, who educate themselves, who empathize, who are dying for the job you have.  There are people that will respect their bosses and the company they work for, who won’t allow their husband to publish smear pieces on coworkers, and who won’t undermine their company in public.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, bannana said:

I forgot one:

I JUST WON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL THEN!  WAH WAH WAH!!!!

Did she follow through? Or did she just insert: "Can I say something?" Which is the opposite of "I just won't say anything at all then."

[RedheadZombie]

23 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I agree. I can understand him distancing himself in public, but the fact that he would turn a cold shoulder out of self-interest proves he was no real friend to her. Selfishly, I think it was good for Kathy's act that she's learned she will never really be the friend of all the celebs she mocks. She had started to go soft on them the past few years when she got more famous and started rubbing shoulders. Hopefully she'll now go back to reaming them the way she used to.

Also, just my opinion, but I didn't think Kathy should have had to apologize for a joke-gone-wrong then, much less do I care that she took back the apology now.

I find it especially irritating since Anderson isn't a rags to riches person who broke his back working from the ground up and paid his dues.  He came from immense wealth, started as a lame host of a reality show and sort of stumbled into news.  He has the money, influence, and clout to stand by his principles, but he's just a sell out like everyone else.  Disappointing.  I shouldn't be surprised since he's BFFs with Andy Cohen.

[RHJunkie]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

I remember a class I took, where polls and statistics were discussed.  the example used was the topic of abortion, because that's the one where it's easiest to illustrate the opposing points of view.   Basically, the idea is this:

If you ask "do you agree that all babies have the right to live full complete lives?"   You can get a high positive response, and report that a vast majority of people are pro-life and against abortion.  (even though that's not what you asked) 

If you ask "do you support an individual's right to make decisions about their bodies and their health?"  you get a high percentage of people who are pro-choice and for abortion rights. (again, that's not what you asked) 

the truth, though, has nothing to do with either of those questions, because the topic is more nuanced than that. But people will still use the statistic that fits their agenda.  When people hear that 88% of people feel, think, or behave a certain way, it gives legitimacy to that point of view.  Even though it's based on a fallacy. 

So when Meghan constantly spits out numbers to prove her point, it makes me angry.  Because she's not telling the whole thing. 

What also upset me is that she has as her mission, telling us what republicans think.   No, Meghan.  the show is The View.  Tell us what YOU think, not what MAGA-hat wearing guys at the gas station think, not what "pundints"  think, not what your father, husband, or friends think.  I  would have a least a little bit of respect for her if she would speak about her own opinions, and not feel the need to speak for "conservatives everywhere."   Nobody else on the panel feels the need to speak for a group, they each give their own views. She should do the same.

Thank you for illustrating why polls are such a stupid point of reference in an argument. They are meaningless without context.

Meghan shifts goal posts in her argument all the time. First she claimed that the WHCD was not about celebrating the media and when Sunny put in her place, highlighting that all but the 20 minutes at the end of the dinner (the comedy routine) was about recognizing and celebrating the media, Meghan turned to statistics to suggest that the event is not effective in ins fundraising objectives. Meghan talks about of both sides of her mouth when it suits her. When it can't be defended, Meghan reminds us all that she's a dying breed of Republican Conservative who doesn't agree with Trumpism. But then she has many days like this where she makes argumentative points with vague polling numbers as her supporting points and then turn around and say 'I'm just telling you the conservative point of view'.

You're absolutely right, what is your point of view Meghan? Are you able to put together a single thought that isn't completely and heavily influenced by your family, husband and tribal association to your political party? On days like today where she was claiming to present the Republican viewpoint, I sometimes feel like she does agree with the controversial Republican point of view but isn't willing to publicly admit that so she claims to simply be relaying the message of how Republicans think. If you aren't a Trump supporter and have distanced yourself from that brand of Republican, then how can you truly give perspective to that base? And more importantly, you can't remind the world that the show is about providing commentary when you seemingly do little to suggest that your commentary is truly your own thoughts. If you always need to confer with people before you can share your thoughts, it makes me think you aren't a secure thinker and rely on others to feed you talking points to convince you or strengthen an argument that you were too weak to argue with conviction on your own merit. 

And lastly Meghan, people think that you get personal and rude with your co-hosts because you do. She was completely condescending when she asked Sunny if she was a journalist because she expected the answer to be a no and expected to be able to further her own agenda of discrediting Sunny's input. Sunny's response left her with no other acknowledgement then to pretend to be asking an innocent question even though there was nothing in her delivery that suggested that it was an innocent curious question. If you really meant no harm then maybe you should learn how to be self-aware because it's not acceptable for everyone else to simply not take it personally and tolerate the fact that you act like a bitch towards the other women. 

[blondiec0332]

3 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

And lastly Meghan, people think that you get personal and rude with your co-hosts because you do. She was completely condescending when she asked Sunny if she was a journalist because she expected the answer to be a no and expected to be able to further her own agenda of discrediting Sunny's input. Sunny's response left her with no other acknowledgement then to pretend to be asking an innocent question even though there was nothing in her delivery that suggested that it was an innocent curious question. If you really meant no harm then maybe you should learn how to be self-aware because it's not acceptable for everyone else to simply not take it personally and tolerate the fact that you act like a bitch towards the other women. 

Meghan isn't a journalist so what was she trying to do with that question to Sunny?  Sunny had already mentioned she had been at the dinner so that alone made her opinions of it more valid than Meghan's.  Meghan is a little girl playing a big girl's game and failing at it every day.

[bannana]

6 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Did she follow through? Or did she just insert: "Can I say something?" Which is the opposite of "I just won't say anything at all then."

Well, Whoopi said, no, no, that's not it, and tried to talk about how they can all have a conversation.  I didn't rewatch it, but that was the gist.  Then they went to break.  After the break Whoopi lightened the mood considerably by saying they had tweets from people saying that her shirt had a hole in it and now she was taped up.  Elsa said very little for the rest of the show.

[Jan Levenson]

I kind of need a gif of Joy batting her hand at Meghan after telling her that she has no sense of humor.  That as a GIF would represent this season of The View.  

[bannana]

Just now, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan isn't a journalist so what was she trying to do with that question to Sunny?  Sunny had already mentioned she had been at the dinner so that alone made her opinions of it more valid than Meghan's.  Meghan is a little girl playing a big girl's game and failing at it every day.

Yes, Sunny didn't even need to be a journalist to make the points she made.  It was  a very long event and now everyone wants to cancel it cause they didn't like the comedian.  Or some didn't.

How is it that Elsa doesn't know Sunny is a journalist. She has done investigative stuff that they showed on the View!

2 minutes ago, Jan Levenson said:

I kind of need a gif of Joy batting her hand at Meghan after telling her that she has no sense of humor.  That as a GIF would represent this season of The View.  

One thing they didn't get to because all of Elsa's meltdown, was what other comics were saying.  I haven't watched the late night shows yet, so I was interested, but they ran out of time because of...Elsa.

[DB in CMH]

I will say that if the panel called out Trump for taking a shit on stage at one of his rallies, Elsa would interpret it as a huge win for Trump. I will say, guys.

[RedheadZombie]

19 hours ago, bannana said:

And it is funny cause she actually looked pretty good at the WHCD.  Not her usual school marm look, and no pearls in sight.  And she smiled a few times.

SHS has lovely hair and skin.  My issue with her has nothing to do with her looks, but her defenders always go there.

[blondiec0332]

16 minutes ago, bannana said:

Elsa said very little for the rest of the show.

I know I keep asking this but isn't there someone in Meghan's life who can tell her what a fool she keeps making of herself?  Maybe her husband doesn't care because she seems to be just parroting what he puts out on his blog and I know her parent's have bigger concerns right now but surely she has an agent or manager or friend or someone.

[merriebreeze]

I'm sorry Serena didn't go into more detail about her medical crisis after her C-section. As I understand it, had she not demanded an MRI and a heparin drip she would've died from the pulmonary embolisms (and instead she spent time hawking the anti-scarring patch for which I'm sure she gets compensated). This hits a little close to home. A dear friend lost her beautiful daughter recently due to pulmonary embolisms which caused her brain to stop functioning. Quick diagnosis and appropriate medical treatment could've saved her. 

[RedheadZombie]

3 hours ago, rickhurst3186 said:

MM has mentioned her "producer" for the 3rd time today. Is it me or does it sound like she Is setting up someone to throw under the bus for one of her idiotic statements?

Do they each have their own producer, or does Meghan get her own republican producer?

[geekburger]

Today’s show was fire.