S07.E00: Reunion Part Two

[missbonnie]

8 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

 

Edited April 24, 2018 by missbonnie
KMN I can't post to save my life tonight.

[WhosThatGirl]

57 minutes ago, Chris Knight said:

Maci, you're just so perfect. Gag.

 

53 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

She's sooo not. But she's not a MacTruck or FazyRyan either. 

Everyone sucks in this situation. Actually, everyone on this show sucks. I hate them all. There isn’t one person whose story I actually enjoy watching. I haven’t watched an episode of this show in weeks  (except for the these  reunions) because I don’t like anyone here.

[missbonnie]

6 minutes ago, missbonnie said:

Same, I will not miss this bitch. Also, I think that if I was a member of the LGBT community I would be like, NOPE. 

[A-Lo]

10 minutes ago, Stusan said:

I am alternately fascinated and horrified at how old Dr. Drew looks in his interview with Farrah vs his interview with the others. 

Difference in cameras? Difference in make-up?

In which did he look older?  I'm curious.

[FairyDusted]

Oh I openly hate watch but this was the very worst reunion ever...So Cate went back to AZ just weeks after this. Kinda get it now.

[Caseysgirl]

As we have all been saying this whole season, MTV has got to put this mess out of its misery. It won't be long before one of these KIDS will be pregnant or doing something illegal or irresponsible and we will be culpable for encouraging the poor parenting that we watched and rewarded their parents for.

[Booger666]

40 minutes ago, druzy said:

I wonder what he's on.

Me too. He was super fidgety and antsy.  Not his usual mellow from pot.  Pillses?

Near the end of C&T’s segment Drew was talking about treatment for Cate and Butch, and then he said something like “and maybe XX someday”.  I didn’t catch the name, was it Amber or April?  Drew did it almost like a throwaway comment.

[Quita]

1 minute ago, Booger666 said:

Me too. He was super fidgety and antsy.  Not his usual mellow from pot.  Pillses?

Near the end of C&T’s segment Drew was talking about treatment for Cate and Butch, and then he said something like “and maybe XX someday”.  I didn’t catch the name, was it Amber or April?  Drew did it almost like a throwaway comment.

I believe he said April.

[Booger666]

3 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

Oh I openly hate watch but this was the very worst reunion ever...So Cate went back to AZ just weeks after this. Kinda get it now.

I need a timeline, please.  I thought Cate left treatment while filming (around the Xmas holidays) and went back real quick.  And then left her second stay a few days early to film the reunion and has been out since.  Has she gone back a third time?

1 minute ago, Quita said:

I believe he said April.

Thanks.  Has something happened recently with April?  She hasn’t been on the show much this season but I was under the impression she still babysits for not Carly a lot so would hope she is sober if she is caring for a child.

[snarts]

When was this filmed because amber does not look pregnant. 

[Quita]

4 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

I need a timeline, please.  I thought Cate left treatment while filming (around the Xmas holidays) and went back real quick.  And then left her second stay a few days early to film the reunion and has been out since.  Has she gone back a third time?

According to an Us Weekly article I read about the reunion, Catelynn sought treatment for a third time in January. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link here. It's sad that I even know that.

 

1 minute ago, snarts said:

When was this filmed because amber does not look pregnant. 

I think it filmed beginning of March, per Us Weekly.

[Jax7917]

Tyler's looking mighty thin and my best guess wouldn't be from working out and eating right  . Judging from how he was acting tonight , I'm gonna say he wants a 3 month vacation in a rehab as well .. he saw how much cate loved it and probably decided to jump on the bandwagon . 

[mxmummy]

I just can't stand Mac. She causes so much drama and is the reason Ryan hates Maci. I bet it just burns her azz that Jen and Larry like Maci as much as they do. I wish they were able to tell us how they really feel about Mac. I'm doubting there is much love there!

[Lynnlynnlynn586]

46 minutes ago, missbonnie said:

Is it terrible that I wondered if the horse was getting stoned and kind of chuckled at the thought of it? Also, is weed legal where they live? I mean they talk about it so openly. I'm sorry, I'm a little behind the rest of you. 

No they live in Michigan (the state i live in) weed is Illegal.

[Jax7917]

Just now, mxmummy said:

I just can't stand Mac. She causes so much drama and is the reason Ryan hates Maci. I bet it just burns her azz that Jen and Larry like Maci as much as they do. I wish they were able to tell us how they really feel about Mac. I'm doubting there is much love there!

Agreed .. I think jen is hoping for a divorce and I wouldn't blame her .. mac is the daughter in law from hell ... not that their son is a peach 

[guilfoyleatpp]

Who the fuck is Dixie? Cate said they'd visit Butch in Texas and bring Dixie...is that her horse?

1 hour ago, Brooklynista said:

Oh give a fucking break with the waterworks Amber. Gary hasn't even downed her as a mom but she's not even listening. She's got these rehearsed tears and she's sticking with em.

 

1 hour ago, Quita said:

Amber is a piss-poor actress with those fake tears. Does she really think it's believable?

Amber's eyes were completely dry. Either her tear ducts don't work or she's just a god damned faker.

[Quita]

16 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

Thanks.  Has something happened recently with April?  She hasn’t been on the show much this season but I was under the impression she still babysits for not Carly a lot so would hope she is sober if she is caring for a child.

I don't think anything happened with her. I believe Dr. Drew mentioned it thinking it would only do her some good - in his infinite wisdom (eye roll).

[druzy]

nm

Edited April 24, 2018 by druzy

[Kazu]

7 minutes ago, Lynnlynnlynn586 said:

No they live in Michigan (the state i live in) weed is Illegal.

If you have a medical card you can get marijuana in Michigan. We know this because Tyler declared so on Twitter shortly after the episode aired when Cate drove while smoking and headed to Boogie Town. I think Cate even mentioned having a card. As if that makes things so much better. Driving under the influence of weed is considered a DUI.

@Booger666 and others asking for a timeline. Go to the last page of the reunion part 1 topic and scroll down. @druzy posted it in length.

3 minutes ago, Quita said:

I don't think anything happened with her. I believe Dr. Drew mentioned it thinking it would only do her some good - in his infinite wisdom (eye roll).

April goes to Boogie Town with Cate. At least she was going, until Cate went for her retreat and spa treatments in Arizona.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Kazu

[druzy]

22 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

I need a timeline, please.  I thought Cate left treatment while filming (around the Xmas holidays) and went back real quick.  And then left her second stay a few days early to film the reunion and has been out since.  Has she gone back a third time?

Thanks.  Has something happened recently with April?  She hasn’t been on the show much this season but I was under the impression she still babysits for not Carly a lot so would hope she is sober if she is caring for a child.

@Booger666 I did a timeline on the other thread. I brought it over here.

On 4/21/2018 at 1:29 AM, druzy said:

November 17, 2017 Cate tweeted she was going to “treatment”

On her way to treatment MTV filmed Cate's phone call with her mother wherein Cate says she thought of every way to kill herself.

During her stay at the spa MTV also filmed Cate's family visiting her. Maci also made a very special appearance at the spa.

Cate remained at the spa for 6 weeks (according to Mack Truck 42 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds) .

December 29, 2017 Cate tweeted she was going home the next day.

Upon Cate's return home, Tyler showed her the renovations on the new house. This is when MTV filmed Cate being mopey in the shower.

 On January 17, 2018, after 17 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds of being home Cate tweeted she was returning to the spa.

On February 26, 2018, after 39 days, 11 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds at the spa Cate posted on Instagram that she was home.

I'm almost positive this is the timeline.

[Quita]

6 minutes ago, Kazu said:

April goes to Boogie Town with Cate. At least she was going, until Cate went for her retreat and spa treatments in Arizona.

Yes, I definitely remember seeing that. That seems par for the course with April and I meant that I didn't think anything major happened with her (arrest, breakdown, etc).

[FlowerofCarnage]

Is it me or did Cate seem annoyed while talking to Butch...excuse me, Darl  ? Like "why are we talking about you and not me?"

Ryan, all that huffing and puffing about wanting to go home...So you can go get high in peace? Going to pick up Bentley next weekend? More like Jen and Larry picking him up since you aren't allowed to be alone with him.

How embarrassing was it to see 3 adults up there on stage coddling a 30 year old man. He knew Maci had the receipts on those text messages and didn't want to be called out on it.

Yes, Amber! You're not a bad mom, you just play one on tv, right? RME 

Edited April 24, 2018 by FlowerofCarnage

[druzy]

Clips from Unseen Moments airing next week 4/30/18

Catelynn and Tyler reveal that their parents wanted to take care of Carly instead of letting them put her up for adoption.

Catelynn reveals how early she realized that she was meant to be with Tyler, and Maci talks about when she knew that Taylor was her soulmate.

Tyler and Gary discuss what it was like to be around Catelynn and Amber's families respectively back in the early stages of dating.

[druzy]

[AmandaUnbidden]

Cate seemed drugged up to me. She seemed the exact same way when she came home for a day or two and was shown being kind of withdrawn/down while she and Tyler were touring their house and looking at the shower. I wonder if she was still adjusting to her Meds or they are just too strong for her or what. Her general affect was kind of alarming to me.

And I have never wanted to rip someone’s head off so bad as I did when Mac was being such a mega bitch. I mean I’ve never hit someone in my life, aside from my sister (I was a teenager and in my defense who hasn’t had a knock down drag out with their sis? Just me? Ok then.)but when I hear Mac talk or see her face, I have a physical reaction. I almost, almost understand Amber not being able to stop herself from storming the stage and taking a swing at Farrah cause that’s exactly where I am with Mackenzie. I wouldn’t trust myself in the same room with her. And the weird thing is, this is just a tv show! I don’t know this woman. She shouldn’t be having this kind of affect on me. I don’t even like Maci that much so it’s not even about that. She’s just so unlikeable. Oh and Ryan is too but Mackenzie just brings out my violent side. I really do feel like Amber in those moments. lol Maybe I should stop watching this show. ?

[MinorL]

Mack needs to get over herself. She’s working on killing Ryan with her “how dare you tell the truth?” bullshit. 

[FrankieTankie]

For the love of Christ can we please start a Go Fund Me for a chin implant for that  human can opener Mac .... shit just lift up on her ear place can firmly under buck teeth then let her go....  Presto ... one open can... plus it’s a two-fer ... while can being opening we don’t have to hear that annoying nails on chalkboard southern drawl 

[Kazu]

2 hours ago, Kalamityjayne said:

It’s amazing how well that child speaks when there’s no cameras around.

I have a feeling "She looks just like you" has been said to Nova countless times by Catelynn. There were a few times she said it to her on camera. That is why Nova was able to say it so well. Catelynn probably says it through the baby monitor to Nova as she is lying in her bed trying to go to sleep night after night.

 

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Is Farrah actually speaking English?? Im enjoying this Farrah.

Give em hell girl!!

ha ha I loved the fact that she shut down Drew when he asked her questions. Screw your blue cards, asshole. I can't stand her, but I loathe everyone else on this show (except Gary & Kristina) and they rank below Farrah in the hate department.

[happykitteh]

I can't stand Ryan and loathe Mac even more but even so I was disgusted at the manipulation techniques Dr Drew and MJ Freeman we're trying to pull on Ryan to get him to sit on stage with Maci. MJF pretending to be concerned for Ryan with his "sometimes things can be resolved this way" or whatever bullshit he was slinging. His ONLY concern is ratings and putting on a shit show and an onstage blow up between Mac and Ryan vs Maci was his true motive, not concern for Ryan. I get that, that's his job.  But Dr Drew?? Drew pulled the "Maci will be free to say whatever she wants and will be believed" card to try and convince Ryan to go onstage and give his side. You'd think after all these reunions I wouldn't expect better from Drew but I did. Pretty low for a psychiatrist, especially one who specializes in addiction, to try and gaslight an addict ( who I'm sure Drew KNEW was high) for ratings.  Only reason Mac cares if Ryan stays alive is so she can stay on the show. If it ends she's gone and won't give a damn if he dies. I hope Ryan gets clean, says "What the fuck did I do? I married this bitch??" and divorces her ass.

Cate looked pissed with her sucking a lemon face when Butch was talking about his suicidal thoughts. He was stealing her glory!!! Suicide is HER storyline and she doesn't want it stepped on! I hate her so much. Tyler is a douche but I think if he got away from Cate there's a chance he might actually do something with his life. I hope when this show ends he gets away from her and all the rest of the lifeblood suckers in his life. If he is indeed gay, as has been mentioned here several times, I hope he can find a caring man, be who he is, and find some happiness. I mean Christ Almighty, he had to hear that not just his wife but also his dad wanted to kill himself. Again, not a Tyler fan, and I realize a lot of his unhappiness is selfish imposed by staying with Cate and not living his own life, but I can't help feeling some compassion for him. And yeah, dude was definitely high on something, though it could be a legal medication side effect. Pissed me off when Drew called Cate a role model. Way to feed into her delusions of grandeur, Drew.

Farrah is a fucked up mess, plain and simple. Sofia is aware of her "social interactions within the adult community" and she thinks this is fine and not harmful? That kid needs removed from her custody. She's been exposed to too many adult things to the point of it being emotional abuse. LOL at Farrah trying to align herself with lgbq community just because they have a prominent social media presence when she has used gay slurs in the past. Delusional when she says other made her out to be a terrible person. No Farrah, your entitled for no reason, nasty attitude and bitchy mouth and behavior did that all on it's own. Be the "adult woman" you made a point to tell Drew you are and at least own it.

Edited April 24, 2018 by happykitteh
Misspelling - tired, may be more, lol

[happykitteh]

33 minutes ago, Kazu said:

 

 

ha ha I loved the fact that she shut down Drew when he asked her questions. Screw your blue cards, asshole. I can't stand her, but I loathe everyone else on this show (except Gary & Kristina) and they rank below Farrah in the hate department.

I loathe Farrah but I did like when she told Drew she wouldn't discuss her therapy. That wasn't a storyline on the show  that  I recall and therefore not his nor the audience's business.

[CaliforniaLove]

Did Ambular actually...fan herself? And did Andrew start furiously blinking in order to try to drum up "sympathy tears" (unsuccessfully)? They both make me want to grab the nearest plastic grocery bag. BLAH #TeamXtina

A guy I used to work with would leave his gross water bottles full of dip spit on our desk, so the only positive thing I can say about Ryan is he reminded me of my coworker (dip spit aside, he was/is an awesome dude, and...works). #TeamStMaciofBudLight

While Tyler seemed odd, it seemed like he was unravelling slightly, and was quite possibly more "real" than we've seen since 16 & Preg. Remember when this was filmed...right after Catelynn left rehab & receieved a lot of backlash for doing so. Word, that she seemed lethargic. #TeamNova

Farrah...no. #TeamLGBTQ

[ginger90]

Debra EMBA:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/farrah-abraham-mom-debra-danielsen-teen-mom-og-reunion-part-2-158655.amp

[kokapetl]

7 hours ago, druzy said:

Don’t know who Darrell Curt is, but here he is with Britney Spears!

[Booger666]

@druzy - Thanks for the Cate spa timeline breakdown to the second.  Instead of military time I now keep Mack Truck time, too :)

I feel like with this TM crew bipolar, depression and suicidal thoughts are right up there with PINK sweats, eating tide pods and dabbing.  They throw around these emotional concerns and diagnoses like “I’ll have what she’s having”.  Stop already.  They have said what a serious issue it is - which I agree with - but their actions imply otherwise.

I don’t think Amber is too thin or doesn’t look pregnant.  To me she looks like she lost 15lbs of bloat.  Matt constantly fed her fast food and alcohol.  While I don’t like NuMatt, he has been shown to cook for her and I’m guessing the drinking has stopped or slowed down.

[ghoulina]

How rich of Catelynn to lecture Butch about his outpatient. Miss "I can't be bothered to stay at home with my kid, I need to return to the spa....I mean rehab...immediately". And she was practically telling him to stay in TX and never come back. Fucking bitch. 

Tyler seemed REALLY manic, to me. My step-dad is bi-polar and the animated way Tyler was talking reminded me so much of him growing up. A bi-polar diagnosis sounds legit. He should probably be on a mood stabilizer, though, not smoking pot. 

 

Farrah's segment was as infuriating as ever. I don't care for Drew, but I applaud him for being able to sit through her condescending smiles and outright refusals to talk about anything. "I'm not going to talk about therapy, but thank you for asking." Won't talk about guys. Won't talk about her businesses. Why are you even there??? I think porn angle is bogus, but I have no doubt that working with that woman was the purest form of torture. 

What really drives me crazy is how she rambles on and on, believing she sounds so enlightened and educated, but she makes little and less sense. I mean, what does the LGBTQ community have to do with the choices she's made in her life? She lost me SEVERAL times last night. 

 

I was really sad to hear that Jody has been distancing himself from Gary, and that both Gary and Kristina regretted doing to the DNA test. How awful. To have the one person you knew as your father fade from your life, to have no idea who your real father is, and to have your mother treat it like a Friday night Bunko party. Gary's a good dude; he doesn't deserve that. 

I was glad that he and Kristina got to have their side heard tonight. And I appreciated Kristina being open about the cheating. It's not cool, but no one is perfect. We all mistakes. When I start to give you the side eye is when there is a PATTERN of mistakes. But the fact that she's perfectly candid about it just shows you can trust her when she refutes all the other shit Amber tries to say. 

What I CAN'T stand is how Amber breaks down into crocodile tears and has everyone pussyfooting around her. Oh no, nothing is Amber's fault. All her absences were because of MATT. And Andrew isn't a Matt, so he must be good, right? I get Gary and Kristina walking on eggshells, because it's painfully clear they've chosen to take the high road for Leah's sake. But Drew should not be coddling POS like that. 

 

If I hear that Maci is Ryan's "trigger" one more time.....What, he can't even sit on the stage with her because he's going to just starting shooting up right then and there??? Give me a break. If he's that fucking fragile, he should be in inpatient treatment still. 

He's not doing anything. It's so obvious - the way they're skirting questions and Mack is taking great offense to Drew's simple advice about medication. Also, I noticed Ryan practically nodding off a few times on stage. The way they parade him around as this "clean and sober" man is worse than Weekend at Bernies. 

I did secretly get off knowing that Mack was probably furious that Ryan refused to go on stage with Maci. Means less camera time for her. 

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

I haven't even finished Gary's segment, but FUCK YOU AMBER. That's all I've got.

[Mr. Miner]

9 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Is it me or did Cate seem annoyed while talking to Butch...excuse me, Darl segment ? Like "why are we talking about you and not me?"

I like how Drew mentioned how anytime Tyler tries to tell Cate how he feels, she starts crying and he never gets to say anything...and what's with the pink fucking hair?

[FlowerofCarnage]

9 hours ago, druzy said:

Clips from Unseen Moments airing next week 4/30/18

Catelynn and Tyler reveal that their parents wanted to take care of Carly instead of letting them put her up for adoption.

Catelynn reveals how early she realized that she was meant to be with Tyler, and Maci talks about when she knew that Taylor was her soulmate.

Tyler and Gary discuss what it was like to be around Catelynn and Amber's families respectively back in the early stages of dating.

I don't believe for a second Butch and April wanted Carly because she is blood and family takes care of family. No, they wanted her because they could receive more assistance( increase in SNAP benefits and cash assistance).

[CofCinci]

50 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

And she was practically telling him to stay in TX and never come back. Fucking bitch

She wishes she could stay in AZ and never come back. 

[Chickabiddy]

10 hours ago, Kalamityjayne said:

Maybe not narcissism. Adopted kids long for family who look like them.

Not to say that both her bio parents and most of her grandparents aren’t narcissistic assholes.

Maybe so, but that it was the very first thing and only thing she said about her sister makes me err on the side of narcissism. She could have said, "Nova is so fun and we look alike!" 

But no, it was all about how Nova looked like her. Me me me. She is def Cate's daughter.

 

35 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

How rich of Catelynn to lecture Butch about his outpatient. Miss "I can't be bothered to stay at home with my kid, I need to return to the spa....I mean rehab...immediately". And she was practically telling him to stay in TX and never come back. Fucking bitch. 

Tyler seemed REALLY manic, to me. My step-dad is bi-polar and the animated way Tyler was talking reminded me so much of him growing up. A bi-polar diagnosis sounds legit. He should probably be on a mood stabilizer, though, not smoking pot. 

 

Farrah's segment was as infuriating as ever. I don't care for Drew, but I applaud him for being able to sit through her condescending smiles and outright refusals to talk about anything. "I'm not going to talk about therapy, but thank you for asking." Won't talk about guys. Won't talk about her businesses. Why are you even there??? I think porn angle is bogus, but I have no doubt that working with that woman was the purest form of torture. 

What really drives me crazy is how she rambles on and on, believing she sounds so enlightened and educated, but she makes little and less sense. I mean, what does the LGBTQ community have to do with the choices she's made in her life? She lost me SEVERAL times last night. 

 

I was really sad to hear that Jody has been distancing himself from Gary, and that both Gary and Kristina regretted doing to the DNA test. How awful. To have the one person you knew as your father fade from your life, to have no idea who your real father is, and to have your mother treat it like a Friday night Bunko party. Gary's a good dude; he doesn't deserve that. 

I was glad that he and Kristina got to have their side heard tonight. And I appreciated Kristina being open about the cheating. It's not cool, but no one is perfect. We all mistakes. When I start to give you the side eye is when there is a PATTERN of mistakes. But the fact that she's perfectly candid about it just shows you can trust her when she refutes all the other shit Amber tries to say. 

What I CAN'T stand is how Amber breaks down into crocodile tears and has everyone pussyfooting around her. Oh no, nothing is Amber's fault. All her absences were because of MATT. And Andrew isn't a Matt, so he must be good, right? I get Gary and Kristina walking on eggshells, because it's painfully clear they've chosen to take the high road for Leah's sake. But Drew should not be coddling POS like that. 

 

If I hear that Maci is Ryan's "trigger" one more time.....What, he can't even sit on the stage with her because he's going to just starting shooting up right then and there??? Give me a break. If he's that fucking fragile, he should be in inpatient treatment still. 

He's not doing anything. It's so obvious - the way they're skirting questions and Mack is taking great offense to Drew's simple advice about medication. Also, I noticed Ryan practically nodding off a few times on stage. The way they parade him around as this "clean and sober" man is worse than Weekend at Bernies. 

I did secretly get off knowing that Mack was probably furious that Ryan refused to go on stage with Maci. Means less camera time for her. 

I love your entire post. That is all. 

Ok, not really. I just have to add that Cate's segment with Butch pissed me off too. That heifer just go no time and no patience for anybody else and their inconvenient shit..."But Butch, I am so happy for you because I love you and, now, stay your fucking ass in Texas, so we can go back to my issues every day all the time." 

And Cate is such a fuckling little manipulator. Tyler (not my favourite person) can't even breathe a whiff of frustration before Cate starts gearing up the water works. I have no doubt that Cate has mental issues, but she will NEVER do anything to get better because it is such a useful tool to start blubbering her way out of any responsibility or accountability. 

And fucking Farrah is just  latching on to the LGBTQ community as her "cause" because she can hide behind that as a cover for her truly shitty behavior. Any sort of criticism she gets can be painted as "You are just coming after me because I speak for LGBTQ rights and your are predjudice and out to get me. "  She is using it as a tool of manipulation to avoid responsibility and accountability. See also Cate above. 

And fucking Amber and her crocodile tears of bullshit. "I don't want people to think I am a bad mother." Of course you don't Amber, but you also don't want to do the work it takes to be viewed as a good, caring parent, like Gary and Kristina. Instead, she uses her mental illness like a crutch to get out of all responsibility and accountability.  See also Farrah and Cate above.

As for Ryan, I have never seen such a spectacle of five adults sitting around and enabling a man baby of 30 to wallow in his temper tantrum. They were even answering questions for him to spare that precious man baby from any bitter taste of responsibility or accountability.  Course, maybe they are just trying to keep their cash cow bloated and happy because he is their meal ticket. Maci should actually thank her lucky stars for Ryan and all his crazy.  He is have been her only interesting story line. Ryan brings the drams that keep Maci revlevent and ever so slightly interesting.

And then there is fucking Dr. Drew who just sits by and enables all this sniveling, manipulative bullshit to be validated as if it is legitimate. That fucker's soul must be in hock to the devil for all the damage he has done enabling these people in their self deluded bullshit about how special, fragile and "talented" they are. 

Anyone a little surprised how all of them have one mental disorder or addiction problem after another? Maci may be a high-functioning alcoholic but she is still substance dependent. So, what came first? The chicken or the show? Were they all on this path to start as young teenagers or did this shit show, over time, bring out and exacerbate all of their tendencies? The world may never know.

These people. These fucking people. 

[leighroda]

This is super nit picky, I can admit I’m being petty, but it drives me absolutely mad when Amber refers to “borderline medication” there is no pharmaceutical treatment for borderline, and if you’re going to go on national television and act like you are some kind of expert with your friend Cate you need to be able to use the correct terms. 

The difference between borderline and bipolar when it comes to medication is there is medication to treat bipolar disorder, the medications effect the neuroreceptors that cause the manic/depressed episodes. Meanwhile with borderline you can treat some of the symptoms with medication ie depression, but there is still a lot that isn’t known or understood about the brain when it comes to borderline personality disorder, thus there is no specific borderline medication because it’s not fully understood how to go about treating it specifically. It’s not a differentiation I expect a layperson to make, but a lay person isn’t going on national television using mental health to promote themselves. 

Edited April 24, 2018 by leighroda
Words are hard

[lezlers]

I had to turn it off during Amber's water works.  She's such a goddamn gaslighter.   All of her angst this season was due to her OWN BEHAVIOR.  I can't with that narcissistic ass.  

Mac truck is a piece of WORK.   I'm no Sad Panda fan but the guy is an actual doctor that specializes in addiction.  I think he might, just MIGHT, know a little bit more about this stuff than YOU, Mac.  Her problem is she doesn't want Ryan to have anything to do with Maci, period, and she's too immature and self absorbed to realize that cutting off contact is not an option when you have a child involved.  She doesn't WANT there to be a solution outside of having a court order and having no contact whatsoever outside of a third party child exchange.  She refuses to take any responsibility or admit any fault on her and Ryan's part in this whole clusterfuck.  Her immaturity and nastiness towards Drew was amazing.  She has really let her 10th string, z list celebrity go to her head.  I haaaaaaaaate her.  

I'm definitely gonna need something rolled tight to finish watching tonight!  (BTW, my dream is to have a little PPP party with my fellow previously tvers and hate watch the shit out of this show!)

[lezlers]

13 hours ago, missbonnie said:

Ah, makes sense now. I'm in Kansas where it's still very illegal. 

It's only a matter of time.  The FDA just approved the first marijuana derived drug so they can't go around lying through their teeth claiming there's no medicinal benefit anymore.

13 hours ago, druzy said:

What did Farrah say about the LBGT community? 

I doubt anything bad.  She's always been a big supporter.  In fact, she claimed that one of the reasons she went so agro on that one producer was because she overheard her making gay slurs.

[toodywoody]

Since I refuse to watch, can someone tell me about the Gary and Christina segment. That's all I care about. The rest of these fuckers have to one up each other so the attention will be on them. Tyler sounds like he is about to break down and Cate won't allow the focus to go off herself. He is trying to not trigger her so that she will have to go back to rehab. But he needs some help himself.

And Amber fuck her. She is the reason I stopped watching. She is such an asshole and can blame Matt all she wants but it wasn't him bitch, it is her. Always has been. Can't wait to see what happens with the new baby and how off the rocker she is about to be. And why can't she fucking still do shit for herself? See it wasn't Matt, it was her all along.

Edited April 24, 2018 by toodywoody

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

She wishes she could stay in AZ and never come back. 

True. 

But she's acting like Butch is some big burden or hindrance in her life. Maybe he is in Tyler's. But so is Cate. She was just being so hypocritical and rude. 

11 minutes ago, toodywoody said:

Since I refuse to watch, can someone tell me about the Gary and Christina segment. That's all I care about. The rest of these fuckers have to one up each other so the attention will be on them.

Drew started out by asking about Jody. Gary said that Jody has been distancing himself from Gary a bit and both he and Kristina admitted that they regretted having the DNA test done. 

Drew asked if they liked Andrew and Gary basically said he didn't KNOW Andrew. But Drew pointed out that he wasn't "a Matt"....so that obviously mean's this whirlwind courtship is fine. Gary did express some concerns about the quickness of it all. And he did point out that he has to be a dad first, so he's always going to investigate men in Amber's life. 

Drew let them address the SM drama and Kristina definitely showed that Amber had pissed her off with her allegations. They reiterated that Kristina shares 50-50 with her ex and it's always been that way, but the girl isn't allowed to film. They admitted that Kristina cheated on her ex with Gary. 

Then they BRIEFLY talked WITH Amber via video chat, but Amber quickly dissolved into "tears" and Gary was quick to reassure her that he knows her issues were because of Matt, not because she is a bad mother. Kristina kept her mouth shut. 

[A-Lo]

My dog has more psychological insight than Farrah!

[BlancheDevoreaux]

Catelynn was wearing snake skin pants, a pink shirt, and a white sweater.  And you know that she probably spent forever picking out the perfect outfit for her to wear on this show.  Then, she has that bright pink hair that is the same color as her lips.  Personally, I don't think it is a good color for hair or lips, but to each her own.  However, I do not think your hair and lips should be the same color.  The best makeup tip I ever received was to pick one part of your face to highlight.  So, if you go heavy with the eye makeup, a subtle lip shade is best.  If you are going for bright voluptuous lips, go lighter on the eye shadow and blush.  Catelynn has the bright lips, dark eye make up, bright hair... it's just too much. And her boobs are bad.  That might be where she just gains weight, but I am cure she could get those reduced.  She would automatically look significantly thinner and it would be easier to find clothes that fit. 

Amber is obnoxious.  Just sign over custody already.  And knock off those crocodile tears. Crap girl. Jenelle spends more time with her kids.  That's when you know you are parenting wrong - when Jenelle, who is a HORRIBLE parent, is a better mother than you.

Shut up Mac. Shut up Rhine.  Shut up with defending them Dr. Drew.

Farrah, that hair.  No. No doubt she jacked up her face with all of the plastic surgery, but she can really look better if she could go more natural with her hair and makeup. She is still a royal bitch. Why can she not speak to others like a human being. She doesn't have to have an attitude with every person.  And I get annoyed with Farrah talking about "adult entertainment".  Stop trying to class it up, Farrah.  It's porn.  Call it what it is.  Modern Family is adult entertainment.  Scandal is adult entertainment.  What you do is porn. Own it. And stop always making yourself a victim.  If you were actually kind to other people, I bet people would be kind to you. I get that Amber tried to hit her and that was wrong (Amber is nuts anyway) but I have never seen Farrah kind to anyone other than Sophia.

Oh, and her LGBT quote after Dr. Drew asked her if there was anything she wanted to say for her last appearance on Teen Mom: "I just feel proud of me standing up and.. just keep it in mind every other woman, every other experience, everybody who is in the LGBTQ community who has shared about... me doing what is right always trying to choose and make the right choices... navigating my life and everyone else is kind of going through similar situations. So I'm happy that... I didn't let people break me from my core which I felt this production was doing and many other people around me and, not to say anything negative, those are just my feelings, and I'm happy that I expressed that on social media and everywhere where I work and hopefully I get a better environment because of me choosing to life a different life."

[Kazu]

4 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

I like how Drew mentioned how anytime Tyler tries to tell Cate how he feels, she starts crying and he never gets to say anything...and what's with the pink fucking hair?

She is such a manipulative trick. 

Cate talking to herself:

"Oh, oh. Tyler is going to tell me the truth of how he feels. I need to push out crocodile tears."

"This dude wants to talk to me about something serious. I will tell him to just leave me and then put on my crying act because it always works."

"Doesn't Tyler get it? His feelings don't matter. It is MY feelings that matter."

"Tyler is wanting to leave. I better come up with a plan. Maybe I can tell him I am pregnant."

"Shit. He still doesn't seem happy about the pregnancy. Now, I am going to have to pretend I had a miscarriage. I will make a mess in the bathroom when my period starts."
"Tyler looks like he is ready to check out. I will have a full-on fake anxiety attack and claim I want to kill myself."

"Tyler looks unhappy. I need to go back to Arizona."

Cate and Amber have mastered the art of victim status.

Fuck you Cate for your tone and attitude towards Butch. That guy, for all his faults, at least has accomplished more in his treatments and truly wants to better his life. He knows what it is like to be clean and sober and wants to get to that point again. Cate just wants to continue to simmer in her filth and stagnant existence while trying to hold Tyler down with her.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Kazu

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

15 hours ago, druzy said:

Shut up Amber. You should be thanking Kristina for being an amazing mom to Leah.

"Just so she knows I am here for her, as long as she can get a ride over to my house, will sit on my bed/couch watching what I want to watch, do activities I want to do, be fine around men I've moved in two minutes after meeting, and not expect me to actually exert any energy to interact with her or meet any of her basic needs (she can ask my new soulmate to get some UberEats delivered if she's hungry & she better take her clothes home for Kristina to wash.  Also, I'm not really here for her on school nights because I can't be assed to bring her to school on time)."

13 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Is it me or did Cate seem annoyed while talking to Butch...excuse me, Darl  ? Like "why are we talking about you and not me?"

 

Cate knows that Butch is the real star of Cate & Tyler segments.  She doesn't want to share any attention or limelight with him because she knows he's actually (at least somewhat) entertaining (even though he's a horrible person). 

Also, everyone who called Tyler's bipolar disorder when we discussed him flittering from passion project to passion project when he was manic....it seems we were correct!

(I'm going to go print us all out some Armchair Reality TV-viewers Psuedo-psychologist certificates.  I'm sure these certificates will be sufficient for us to provide on-camera "therapy" to TM franchise cast members in the back room of the local Kinko's and to host the reunions.)

Edited April 24, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Kazu]

4 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

"Just so she knows I am here for her, as long as she can get a ride over to my house, will sit on my bed/couch watching what I want to watch, do activities I want to do, be fine around men I've moved in two minutes after meeting, and not expect me to actually exert any energy to interact with her or meet any of her basic needs (she can ask my new soulmate to get some UberEats delivered if she's hungry & she better take her clothes home for Kristina to wash.  Also, I'm not really here for her on school nights because I can't be assed to bring her to school on time)."

Cate knows that Butch is the real star of Cate & Tyler segments.  She doesn't want to share any attention or limelight with him because she knows he's actually (at least somewhat) entertaining (even though he's a horrible person). 

Also, everyone who called Tyler's bipolar disorder when we discussed him flittering from passion project to passion project when he was manic....it seems we were correct!

(I'm going to go print us all out some Armchair Reality Psuedopsychologist certificates.  I'm sure these certificates will be sufficient for us to provide on-camera "therapy" to TM franchise cast members in the back room of the local Kinko's and to host the reunions.)

I love all of this, particularly the bolded part. Kudos to those who called it.