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2 hours ago, Nashville said:

Actually, it appears Cody has been building himself some degree of an acting resume.  Will wonders never cease....

I’d always thought he’d end up on a soap. He has the soap look but I guess he’s plugging away like all struggling actors. I guess I can admire that.

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5 hours ago, Ananayel said:

The only way I want Paul back is for him to get to the final and lose. Again. 

IN THE SAME SHIRT.

5 hours ago, Callaphera said:

IS IT THAT TIME AGAIN? (Paul: "Not again, not again.")

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*wipes away a tear* Most beautiful GIF in the world, man. 

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Best moment ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Really? Because I don't think this GIF will ever get old, either.

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Aww, the poor widdle baby had to make some pies open up cans of pie filling to dump into pre-made shells and wave his little flag. So sad. 

Are we sure he didn't just see a butterfly flit by?

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11 hours ago, Callaphera said:

IS IT THAT TIME AGAIN? (Paul: "Not again, not again.")

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*wipes away a tear* Most beautiful GIF in the world, man. 

Thank you so much for posting that again. You made my morning!

8 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Really? Because I don't think this GIF will ever get old, either.

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Aww, the poor widdle baby had to make some pies open up cans of pie filling to dump into pre-made shells and wave his little flag. So sad. 

Don't forget his tears at seeing a butterfly!

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I just thought of something -- since I must work from home until, at the earliest, September 8, I can have the live feeds on all day on my personal computer while working on my work computer! And since LA is two hours behind me, I can enjoy bird song in the morning until at least 10:00 am central because no one in the house will be up that early.

I wonder if Raven will provide catering services for the house guests.

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I have a friend whose daughter has been out in LA trying to becoming a "working" actress, and being in a Hallmark movie is a way to make money and make connections in the industry - a part is a part is a part - the bills have to be paid some way.

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3 hours ago, himela said:

Am I the only one who likes Paul? I would really like to see him again and see what he can do in this new environment.

Paul may be the only former cast member who would cause me not to watch the upcoming season. I pray he’s not on it.

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It worries me that none of the articles talk about the live feeds. They usually start pimping the live feeds ("Only on CBS All Access!") as soon as there's a whisper of a new season. There better be live feeds or else what's the point?

 

3 hours ago, himela said:

Am I the only one who likes Paul? I would really like to see him again and see what he can do in this new environment.

Yes, you probably are, at least around here, but I appreciate your bravery in admitting it. To quote the best U.S. President ever: "Just stand there in your wrongness and be wrong and get used to it."

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1 hour ago, RoxiP said:

I have a friend whose daughter has been out in LA trying to becoming a "working" actress, and being in a Hallmark movie is a way to make money and make connections in the industry - a part is a part is a part - the bills have to be paid some way.

I have nothing against Hallmark movies - they're my favourite kind of cheese around the holidays. But I do take issue with the utter and complete preciousness of someone billing themselves as Candi Cane to direct holiday movies. If it was porn, sure! But not the 94th version of "Big city girl is trapped in a small town due to snowstorm and learns the real meaning of Christmas thanks to a single dad and his precocious daughter who run the inn that the woman used to spend Christmas in as a child and the town is going to tear it down but it's really a heritage building and it turns out the woman is a property lawyer!" And she really seems to like Cody. All but one of his recent projects are directed by Miss Peppermint Stick (although I imagine that they probably film them all in blocks which would explain why the same props and sweaters end up in five different movies in the same holiday season). 

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22 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

It worries me that none of the articles talk about the live feeds. They usually start pimping the live feeds ("Only on CBS All Access!") as soon as there's a whisper of a new season. There better be live feeds or else what's the point?

Oh no, now I'm worried lol.

I just saw it'll be on at 8 et all 3 nights, which pleases me greatly.

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26 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I have nothing against Hallmark movies - they're my favourite kind of cheese around the holidays. But I do take issue with the utter and complete preciousness of someone billing themselves as Candi Cane to direct holiday movies. If it was porn, sure! But not the 94th version of "Big city girl is trapped in a small town due to snowstorm and learns the real meaning of Christmas thanks to a single dad and his precocious daughter who run the inn that the woman used to spend Christmas in as a child and the town is going to tear it down but it's really a heritage building and it turns out the woman is a property lawyer!" And she really seems to like Cody. All but one of his recent projects are directed by Miss Peppermint Stick (although I imagine that they probably film them all in blocks which would explain why the same props and sweaters end up in five different movies in the same holiday season). 

(I rarely watch Hallmark Movies) - I see your point!  Not a lot of effort goes into those scripts for sure!

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There are literally no official sources mentioning feeds. There are fans celebrating that the live move in means Night One feeds and CBS keeps talking about how you can stream the episodes on CBS All Access but no mention of feeds yet. 

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WAIT. WHO WANTS A LAUGH?

I found this while looking for news about feeds. Come and point and laugh at BB15 Andy's raging ego and hurt fee-fees about being on the Summer of Racism and doing absolutely nothing about it and thinking that's all right. Nice downplaying and he does have some points but... no, Andy. He's not looking for praise, he's just looking for praise. 

https://twitter.com/AndyHerren/status/1286090603701338112

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1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

Yes, you probably are, at least around here, but I appreciate your bravery in admitting it. To quote the best U.S. President ever: "Just stand there in your wrongness and be wrong and get used to it."

Do you think people in here with ostracize me now? 😛

I'm not sure why I like him, maybe because he is Armenian and Armenians are our brothers and sisters.

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11 minutes ago, himela said:

Do you think people in here with ostracize me now? 😛

I mean, I'm the world's biggest Raven fan and I was championing the idea of having Paul versus Frankie in BB22: AS2: The Squeakquel and they still share the bean dip with me. You should be safe.

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8 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

No, I believe Paul also enjoys himself.

You got me lol!

That tweet from Andy is also a good laugh. He makes a lot of good points but, as always with him, he pretty much negates them by taking no responsibility for himself.

It also got me thinking, this season is ripe to be a doozy with all that’s been going on lately in the world. I anticipate many feed cuts (if we even get feeds lol) while people discuss current events. I bet TPTB may have even instructed the HGs to steer clear of talking about anything, which they will anyway lol.

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All Star seasons are weird because so much of the strategy really takes place off screen from these people all knowing each other for years. 

So there's no real way to predict how it will go. I can't even imagine just how the alliances will form. It should be interesting. 

I think Tyler and Hayden get hurt the most by the All Star format, while Josh and Ian will be helped by it. 

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14 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Half of his resume are Hallmark-esque holiday movies that were done in 2019 and 2020, directed by someone with the twee name of "Candi Cane". Y'all. 

Hallmark or Candi Cane - so long as the signature on the paychecks is good, who gives a shit?  😁

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I mean, I don't blame Andy for not doing anything about the "racist" houseguests. He was playing to win, not be a social justice warrior inside the Big Brother House. His thoughts weren't broadcast, so we have no idea what his real feelings were regarding some of the things he might have seen and heard. I also don't know if the producers asked him questions about it in the Diary Room, and even if they did, they could have used whatever he said against him re: the other Houseguests. It's a tough position to be in, and I don't fault him at all.

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3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

It makes sense since they'll have quarantined for 14 days at that point and, thus, we can actually see them move in.

I hope we get live feeds right away since this is the case.

Ditto on the Andy stuff. Yes, he makes some good points. But he was just as culpable by being a bystander and allowing these things to be said without speaking up. Now, there is BB21 which does rival BB15 in terms of racism, so at least they're not the outlier of seasons that had horrible shit that needed legit disclaimers for several episodes. But you can only count on one hand the decent people from his cast while BB21 had a few more decent people. 

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3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I have nothing against Hallmark movies - they're my favourite kind of cheese around the holidays. But I do take issue with the utter and complete preciousness of someone billing themselves as Candi Cane to direct holiday movies. If it was porn, sure! But not the 94th version of "Big city girl is trapped in a small town due to snowstorm and learns the real meaning of Christmas thanks to a single dad and his precocious daughter who run the inn that the woman used to spend Christmas in as a child and the town is going to tear it down but it's really a heritage building and it turns out the woman is a property lawyer!" And she really seems to like Cody. All but one of his recent projects are directed by Miss Peppermint Stick (although I imagine that they probably film them all in blocks which would explain why the same props and sweaters end up in five different movies in the same holiday season). 

Off topic, but you commented on it...

Speaking as someone who has a Twitter page specifically dedicated to giving info on Hallmark movies in production (most of them in Canada, Utah, Georgia, Connecticut, but very rarely in California), Hallmark directors and producers, writers, etc., and who has been tracking all of their work for years and is very familiar with all of the regular players involved in putting their movies together, I can tell you that there are no directors or actors or anyone else working for Hallmark/Crown Media who use the name "Candi Cane" (or anything like it, spelled differently).  🤣

Now the Hallmark-esque movies (for other networks or streaming platforms) are a different story -- there is a writer of Christmas movies for other networks whose name is Candice T. Cain.  I have seen her name pop up here and there as I was scouting out Hallmark info.  But she has nothing to do with Hallmark (yet). 

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22 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I fucking hate that little shit. Ian inspires such a seething rage in me that I can't even find the right words to express how I truly feel about him. I loathe Ian the way other people loathe Frankie - and you know how much I don't like Frankie because I make sure to hate on him every time his name comes up. But seriously. Fuck. Ian. 

I’m curious as to why though.  I definitely hate Paul, Paulie, Josh, Frankie, boogie, ED, Andy, Michie, Aaryn, Christmas, are some that come immediately to mind.  But I don’t remember much about Ian except that he was very young and won HOH a lot.  What did he do that has you feeling so strongly?

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I really love being able to see the live arrivals and move-ins again!  That was one of my favorite things about BBOTT.  While the live move-ins did seem to last hours and hours, it was fascinating to see who gravitated towards each other right from the start, compared to what their relationships may have been 3 weeks later.

The main difference this time, I would think, is that most of the HGs have probably met each other before, at assorted BB events and parties, if not participated in the same seasons of BB.  So there won't be the same dynamic as there was with BBOTT, which was full of people who didn't know each other (minus the sisters), but it should still be interesting anyway.

 

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So what are the chances Julie goes to her studio to do the eviction shows? It seems more likely to me that she'd do them remotely, but the exit interviews will really lose something that way, especially when there are more shocking or emotional eliminations.

I also wonder if this will be a full ~99 day season, or if it'll be shorter. A full season would air until the second week of November. I have to assume CBS needs the content for their schedule, but ~99 days also seems like a long time to be completely cut off from family and friends with the world as it is right now. I know in the past they've told houseguests when there have been deaths in their families, but I wonder if they'd tell them if a family member gets badly sick with Covid but hasn't died yet.

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1 hour ago, Never Again said:

I’m curious as to why though.  I definitely hate Paul, Paulie, Josh, Frankie, boogie, ED, Andy, Michie, Aaryn, Christmas, are some that come immediately to mind.  But I don’t remember much about Ian except that he was very young and won HOH a lot.  What did he do that has you feeling so strongly?

I can't speak for Twinnie, but I know I can't stand Ian for a few reasons, one being his delusion that he "created" the Quack Pack (that NAME). He was added last and he acts like he was the architect and mastermind of everything. For an awkward, beaten down nerd, he sure did have a lot of self-esteem.

It never fails to amuse me how visibly annoyed he gets whenever someone inevitably mentions how great Dan is and how he should have won S14. I believe it was Britney who later said "a bottle of ketchup could have been sitting next to Dan and would have won" because that group was just intent on not letting a winner win again. I see it differently (don't get me started) but all that really means was that it wasn't really anything about the S14 game itself and maybe Ian shouldn't think he's better than Dan (because he's not).

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2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

All Star seasons are weird because so much of the strategy really takes place off screen from these people all knowing each other for years. 

Unconfirmed and probably false rumour that I came across this morning is that the sequestered are being allowed to keep their phones for the first week of sequester. Which would be an interesting choice, lead to more off-site strategizing, and give some of the HGs that don't know how to set up HootSuite some "Nooo, I'm not playing Big Brother this summer" plausible deniability. 

 

1 hour ago, Victim Noises said:

I mean, I don't blame Andy for not doing anything about the "racist" houseguests. He was playing to win, not be a social justice warrior inside the Big Brother House. His thoughts weren't broadcast, so we have no idea what his real feelings were regarding some of the things he might have seen and heard.

No but after the game was over, Andy kept in close contact with those controversial HGs for a long time. He also made some comments himself - I believe he was the one who started calling Helen "Kim Jong" or some variation of that name so he's not blameless like he pretends to be. It's just his few scattered comments and participation in discussions of rape was swept under the rug because you have GM talking about "n****r insurance" and puking into towels and Spencer's... well, Spencer. That's why I side eye his whole "but I was two whole rooms away!" defense. Yeah, he was for the bed flipping/can't see the bitch in the dark/make some rice moments but he had his own moments. 

 

1 hour ago, Never Again said:

I’m curious as to why though.  I definitely hate Paul, Paulie, Josh, Frankie, boogie, ED, Andy, Michie, Aaryn, Christmas, are some that come immediately to mind.  But I don’t remember much about Ian except that he was very young and won HOH a lot.  What did he do that has you feeling so strongly?

Oh, Ian. He got carried through the game, stumbled his way through everything, kept fucking up everyone's plans to vote him out once jury phase began because he kept fucking winning clutch comps and not even realizing that he was saving himself because he had such a bad read on the game to the point that I would be tempted to call it one of the worst reads on the house of all time but then Fessy happened. And then Ian talked up his win like he manifested his own destiny and he was the greatest winner of all time because he beat Dan but what Ian really did was benefit from a bitter jury that was never going to give Dan a second win and acted like an asshole about it. Also I never want to hear the words "Quack" and "Pack" in the same sentence ever fucking again and if I have to listen to that asshole stimming in the hammock and drive me nuts with the squeak squeak squeeeak 24/7 for the second time in my life, I'm gonna lose my shit. And his face annoys me.

Ahem. That felt good

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1 hour ago, dvr devotee said:

So what are the chances Julie goes to her studio to do the eviction shows? It seems more likely to me that she'd do them remotely, but the exit interviews will really lose something that way, especially when there are more shocking or emotional eliminations.

I also wonder if this will be a full ~99 day season, or if it'll be shorter. A full season would air until the second week of November. I have to assume CBS needs the content for their schedule, but ~99 days also seems like a long time to be completely cut off from family and friends with the world as it is right now. I know in the past they've told houseguests when there have been deaths in their families, but I wonder if they'd tell them if a family member gets badly sick with Covid but hasn't died yet.

I've also been wondering exactly how long the season will be.  As you said, CBS needs the content at this point, so it's not like they couldn't fit a full 3-month season into the schedule.  It might be slightly shorter like BBOTT was.  BBOTT was a bit shorter than a 'real' season, but it was much longer than a Celebrity season.  I'd love to see a full-length season because I'd love to see the HGs celebrating Halloween.  But I am inclined to think it won't be a full season.  I hope to be wrong!

I am fully expecting Julie to do some remote intros and possibly remote interviews too, but I am also expecting us to see Julie wearing an occasional mask (possibly when she doesn't even need to!) -- just because CBS will want to drive home the point that they are all being safe.  If there is no live audience, and if the crew is regularly tested, and if the number of crew members on set at any given time is greatly reduced, she might be in the studio.

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I really hope there are Live Feeds. I started watching in real time during Season 8, so if there are no live feeds it will feel like when I went back and watched all the old seasons on YouTube. I missed out on all the context and richness that the live feeds provide. It will really suck.

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2 hours ago, dvr devotee said:

So what are the chances Julie goes to her studio to do the eviction shows? It seems more likely to me that she'd do them remotely, but the exit interviews will really lose something that way, especially when there are more shocking or emotional eliminations.

One of the articles definitely made it seem like she'd be in studio for live evictions.

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

Live interviews with the HGs is confirmed to be on Wednesday, 12 PMET/9 AM PT/BBT. 

On All Access?

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1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

On All Access?

Interviews for sure, yes. The feeds have already updated to the new look and are looping the music and the interview message so I guess feeds are a go for BB22: AS2: 2 Big 2 Brother. I bought my prepaid Amex this morning, I just need a fresh box of wine and a fresh box of microwave popcorn and I'm good to go. Just maybe not at 9 in the fucking morning. 

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3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

And then Ian talked up his win like he manifested his own destiny and he was the greatest winner of all time because he beat Dan but what Ian really did was benefit from a bitter jury that was never going to give Dan a second win and acted like an asshole about it.

This sounds very Josh-ish.  Same exact principle!  Ok reading what you said reminded me a little more of that season but I don’t remember enough to hate him.  But now I understand why you do!

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4 hours ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

For an awkward, beaten down nerd, he sure did have a lot of self-esteem.

 

I hear what you are saying as far as the rest of it, and ughh quack pack, but I have to admire someone who is awkward and beaten down, and a nerd, but who has a lot of self-esteem.  That would have helped Nicole out last year for sure 

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22 minutes ago, Never Again said:

I hear what you are saying as far as the rest of it, and ughh quack pack, but I have to admire someone who is awkward and beaten down, and a nerd, but who has a lot of self-esteem.  That would have helped Nicole out last year for sure 

There's having faith and confidence in yourself, and then there's talking like you've been kicked around, aiming for sympathy, while also carrying yourself arrogantly. Ian, imo, falls into the latter. Nicole, dear thing, really needs to find the former.

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2 hours ago, HartofDixie said:

Looking forward to seeing who walks in with the biggest ego for getting on All Stars only to go out pre jury. My money is on Bayleigh.

I'm thinking that they will do everything they possibly can to avoid getting rid of Bayleigh in Week 1. 

2 hours ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

There's having faith and confidence in yourself, and then there's talking like you've been kicked around, aiming for sympathy, while also carrying yourself arrogantly. Ian, imo, falls into the latter. Nicole, dear thing, really needs to find the former.

Yeah, Ian's that standard, "But I'm an awkward nerd, I can't be an asshole!" trope. Yes, yes you can, dude. 

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Edited to remove; had a thought that it might not be appropriate for this Forum since it was about BB AU and really didn't want to get dinged by a Mod or anything just before our own BB is slated to begin.  Better safe than sorry I suppose. 

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I just remember Ian being a feed killer. He'd start ranking Big Brother players and reciting competitions and stimming in the hammock. He never got any of the jokes and many times Britney would have to remind him "You've already told this story before." After the show I remember him on Survivor Sucks saying that he was really into Nicole (BB16) and talking about her in this really sexist, objectionable way. 

I found Steve of BB17 more interesting because he too started as the awkward nerd but as the game developed got more conniving and also had a mean streak (like his hatred of poor, inoffensive hit-by-a-train Becky).

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30 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

I found Steve of BB17 more interesting because he too started as the awkward nerd but as the game developed got more conniving and also had a mean streak (like his hatred of poor, inoffensive hit-by-a-train Becky).

Steve versus Trainwrecky Becky is my favourite WTF story of any Big Brother season, hands down. So out of left field, so venomous from Steve's end while Becky is happily and obliviously regaling him with stories of how to fold sweaters at A&F. He practically foamed at the mouth anytime there was a whisper of a chance of taking her out. So so delicious. 

I'm kinda sad that neither of them are on the potential lists I've seen floating around. I would be down for Steve versus Trainwrecky Becky, round two. Instead it's sounding like we're going to get Nicole Franzel lounging in the HoH bed for a third season. 

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37 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

I found Steve of BB17 more interesting because he too started as the awkward nerd but as the game developed got more conniving and also had a mean streak (like his hatred of poor, inoffensive hit-by-a-train Becky).

I  think Steve had some of the same attributes of Ian, but yeah, not NEARLY as much. Scottie in BB20 was more similar to Ian. 

Nicole from BB21, on the other hand, was a much better class of nerd. She did some annoying things (a lot of her celebrations were like satires of Taylor Swift's early acceptance speeches - "Me? Really? I won? Me? Seriously? Me?" when, like, Holly threw her the F4 HOH. Ugh), but in general, she was an overall just very good person. 

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