S07.E14: Choose Your Path

[ghoulina]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said:

I know Taylor probably loves his hipster beard, but on HD it totally looks like wiry pubic hair.

I'm a little bit beard obsessed and tend to think most men look better with one. But....um....yea. Taylor's is awful. 

[druzy]

[eskimo]

18 minutes ago, ya both high said:

Either my DVR is trying to tell me something or this Teen Mom horror series is getting real. Anyone else feel this sinister tone is way too appropriate?! I can’t stop laughing. ?

Be sure to turn up the volume!

 

That's the sound of the series slowly winding down.  Lol

[druzy]

I found a new link. This should work.

Edited March 14, 2018 by druzy
New link

[eskimo]

More so than the fact that Jody is not Gary's dad, his mom's 'oh well, what's for lunch' attitude really pissed me off.  Because of her, two people were really hurting and she didn't give a crap at all.  Not to mention she's taken all this money from Jody, and got him in legal trouble when he didn't pay, and the child wasn't even his!?!  I really hope that Gary and Jody still form a sort of father/son bond.  They at least have that horrible witch in common.  And if Jody does go on with the marriage, Jody will be his step-dad.  But I get the feeling that marriage is never going to happen.  He doesn't want enough sex, and she's a fucking bitch, so that'll put a damper on things for them.  (BTW, how could anyone ever be even remotely attracted to such a wretched woman!  That attitude has to be a huge penis-shrinker.)

Gary is so lucky to have Kristina, she genuinely cares about him and Leah.  I'd say it's close to time to circle the wagons and cut some people out. 

[CaliforniaLove]

14 minutes ago, druzy said:

You can watch the episode here.

Ugh, this image. Morgan is such a pussy. "Ummmm, oh hey Farrah! MTV heard you were gonna do a web cam show, so uh, if you film that show, we can no longer film your Teen Mom show (isn't it YOUR Teen Mom show Morgan?)!...and this came from above me. It wasn't me at all! Not it! The head of the head of the head of MTV's parent company, and the Pope himself have sent me to deliver the message, but it's NOT ME!! Love ya. Let us know YOUR decision. Mmmkay, bye." 

What is the DEAL with these fucking producers? You guys run the show, not these girls! They are the ones who made the decision to sell their souls to the devil. Stop coddling them! Gah!!

[Pepper Mostly]

13 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Amber, says without a trace of irony, that the sloth is her spirit animal.  I just...ummm...

I thought Amber was trolling us with the giant sloth, but then I remembered she's not smart enough. Is newMatt sending us a message? Either way, I damn near fell off the couch when newMatt encouraged Amber to "lie down on your sloth"!! Jesus, the woman gets out of bed for 10 minutes and is overcome with a case of the vapors and has to lie down. 

 

8 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Yeah.. I dislike Farrah, she’s awful beyond words but MTV has no real leg to stand on. Yes they can say she’s been rude to production but her behavior has been the same as it’s always been and has been for YEARS at this point. So they really have nothing worth merit.

 

I think that the crew are just fed up with her. She's a horrible person and she's appallingly rude and must be exhausting. Its just the last straw. "I am the most compassionate person!" Yeah, OK Mother Theresa. 

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I think she was on Meth. Adderall sounds better. One could speculate that she was legally prescribed it at some point and began to abuse it. Adderall is kind of trendy among young kids who like to party a lot. But that Grim Reaper impression she was giving a few weeks ago was not due to Adderall.

Agreed. She was tweaking hard last time was saw her. 

Kristina is so sweet. Gary's a lucky guy to have her. I felt bad for Jody too. He was really heartbroken. 

[gunderda]

10 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Can we just talk about how Maci was all holier than thou, judging Farrah for taking her clothes off on camera and literally pulling her child off the show as a temper tantrum type “protest” because she didn’t want him to be associated with such vulgarity....but now she is on a show called Naked and Afraid?  So Bentley will be made fun of for being on the same show as someone who gets naked on camera, but it’s not even a concern when his own mother is doing it?  I get that porn is a whole different ballgame but wouldn’t those same kids make fun of Bentley for his mom running around naked in the woods on tv?

 

Also, Carol had no fucks to give.  I wasn’t expecting a Maury run off the stage moment but she didn’t even look surprised or worried about how they were handling the news.

You cant really compared Porn to Naked and Afraid.  And it sounds like Bentley even watches Naked and Afraid because he knows the terminology and knows that parts are blurred out.

What he might get made fun of is if Maci really only last 3 days.  That's pretty embarrassing for that show.

 

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Other moms have been shitty to the producers. No question. But Farrah takes it further. She flat out refuses to work with people. She sent the set teacher packing, and now she's refusing to work with Kristen. Jenelle may scream at her gal, but then she'll be working with her the next day. Farrah has these diva level tantrums and it makes it near impossible to get anything done. I'm NOT defending Jenelle or Amber or Kail or any of those shitheads. But I do see a difference here. 

That's exactly why she's the only problem child.  Of course they all throw tantrums but Farrah is always next level bitch every single time they film.  I was surprised at how happy she looked with Morgan and the other guy showed up at her house and she wasn't ready yet.  Makes me wonder what she thought they were coming over for.  And now we know why they were saying she was fired and not fired (her and MTV) because they did give her a choice and she chose the adult industry. 

2 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Yep. I think it pissed of TPTB at MTV that Farrah was using her MTV notoriety to sell products that MTV didn't brand or underwrite. And taht they couldn't do that with Farrah's "products", lest they be skewered publically for it.   Honestly, I think that if Farrah had been a joy to work with, she wouldn't have been canned, despite the porn. MTV used the porn as an excuse to get rid of someone who was clearly driving production batshit. Hypocritical, you bet. Convenient, yep. But it was getting to the point where I was literally cringing for the crew during her scenes (BTW, I feel the same with Janelle). And it was epic watching her slowly realize that she wasn't holding all the cards, that MTV had already cashed her out of the game. I feel nothing for Farrah. IMO she has mental health issues, possibly a personality disorder and it wasn't doing anyone any good, including Farrah, to showcase it weekly. Gosh, what will Deb and Michael do now that they can't mooch off their kid? 

Ding ding ding - that's exactly their plan.  They probably felt they didn't have a leg to stand on to fire Farrah for being a royal bitch to everyone so they finally got something that basically went against her contract. and I am SO GLAD she is off the show - hopefully forever.

1 hour ago, leighroda said:

Agreed, I don’t love Farrah... but idk that mtv really has the high ground to fire her for this. To be fair she did the porn when teen mom was cancelled, was she supposed to just sit around and wait like the rest of the girls did?

What she did in the past wasn't an issue for them.  She is now doing live web cam adult stuff, that is what they were talking about.  Morgan said she had told them she was not going to do the porn stuff anymore and that's why they let her back on the show way back then. 

[eskimo]

2 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Honestly, I think that if Farrah had been a joy to work with, she wouldn't have been canned, despite the porn. MTV used the porn as an excuse to get rid of someone who was clearly driving production batshit. Hypocritical, you bet. Convenient, yep. But it was getting to the point where I was literally cringing for the crew during her scenes (BTW, I feel the same with Janelle).

 

Gosh, what will Deb and Michael do now that they can't mooch off their kid?  

 

 

Yep, if they liked her then I'm sure they would have publicly patted themselves on the back for standing up for women's rights, supporting this courageous single mother's right to provide for her child, and otherwise empowering women to take control for themselves.  I don't care that she's gone at all, she deserved it, but the people at MTV are hypocrites and have no room to talk about morals. 

 

I imagine they'll still be able to mooch off of her, I think she'll do alright without MTV.  She better be wise with her money though, adult entertainment is a young persons game and she's already over middle-aged in that realm. 

[MargeGunderson]

24 minutes ago, eskimo said:

Yep, if they liked her then I'm sure they would have publicly patted themselves on the back for standing up for women's rights, supporting this courageous single mother's right to provide for her child, and otherwise empowering women to take control for themselves.  I don't care that she's gone at all, she deserved it, but the people at MTV are hypocrites and have no room to talk about morals. 

Only MTV can make money off exploiting Farrah (and the other teen moms)!

I think Farrah is vile, and I have no use for porn, but if a grown woman wants to make money legally, that's her business. 

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, ya both high said:

Either my DVR is trying to tell me something or this Teen Mom horror series is getting real. Anyone else feel this sinister tone is way too appropriate?! I can’t stop laughing. ?

Be sure to turn up the volume!

 

WTH? lol 

BTW I love the candle décor you have there. 

Thanks @druzy for pulling up those angry tweets from Jenelle and Amber. You are the bomb!

Hmm...I wonder why MTV doesn't air those shitty tweets on camera? 

Farrah really seems to work well with that guy, Jordan. She didn't hesitate giving him a little hug. Why not have him work with her since, you know, they got rid of Heather. 

@Chickabiddy and others - that Instagram photo is NOT Malibu James' nursery. That is just one of Baby Huey's stupid IG posts from two weeks ago. He posts random shit on his IG. 

[MerryMary]

Recorded this show and blew through the whole thing in less than 15 minutes.  I can only assume Maci is doing Naked and Afraid because her leather pocket t-shirt empire is crumbling.  I get that this show isn't porn but Bentley is going to be teased at school about this and I feel badly about that.  Farrah wasn't allowed to go film something else during TM season, so why can Maci?  Maybe it's filming after TM wraps?

Catelynn is in rehab and loving every second of it.  I  felt bad when Nova drew a pic for her mom but the call was over and she flipped out. 

Of course Amber's spirit animal is a sloth.  Don't sloths only climb down from trees every few days to poop?  Amber is just about that lazy.  NuMatt is so screwed.  Didn't Amber say she quit her meds for bipolar and borderline??  I didn't know there were meds for borderline personality disorder.  Anyway, there are not enough meds on the planet to turn Amber into a loving mother.

Gary's paternity story line was simply about collecting a check for Jody and his mom (Susan?).  Clearly, they both suffer from rural poverty.  Once you cancel out obesity, Gary and Jody do not have similar features.  And Gary's mom sitting there like she's Miss Thang.  If I were Gary, I wouldn't care who my sperm donor was.  Ugh.  All of these people are wretched, even crying Jody.

I'm glad they fired Farrah's miserable ass but that scene in the backyard felt even less authentic than usual.  There was something unsaid going on there.

Were Sophia, Bentley or Leah even on this episode?  Didn't notice them.

[GreatKazu]

@MerryMary Bentley was shown in his backyard with his mom as she showed him how to make a fire. With flint. She rambled on and on about how she wasn't going to quit the show (Naked and Afraid) and whatever other crap she was saying. I FF her scene. 

[MollyZee]

I know Tyler = DRAMZ but man, it does make me sad to see him shut down completely whenever his dysfunctional family comes around. Adderall Ambie walked into the house and he hightailed it out of there like Carly was waiting for him in the other room. His mood shifted, his body language tensed up, he was broadcasting GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE I CAN'T SAVE YOU and in comes Billy the dealer to try and bro him up? Seriously whoever said Amber needs to read the room nailed it. The codependency there is real and it is DARK. Kim must be some kind of award-winning actress because you don't procreate repeatedly with a hillbilly addict criminal and get to be half as normal as she appears to be. Something is up with her and it's wreaking havoc on that whole clan.  

NuMatt's disgusting shape-shifting beard makes my skin crawl. It's like his teeth are growing out of his facial hair, like there is no skin there at all. Vom. 

[Chickabiddy]

19 minutes ago, MollyZee said:

Kim must be some kind of award-winning actress because you don't procreate repeatedly with a hillbilly addict criminal and get to be half as normal as she appears to be.

I have to agree, and have been trying to tease out exactly what her dysfunction is - aside from choosing a supremely inappropriate man to father her kids. I have noticed that she is a real drama queen who makes her kids; strife all about her. Remember the scene when Tyler was complaining about how tired and stressed he was? It devolved rapidly into Kim crying about what a terrible mother she was and Tyler was then comforting her. It can be a real burden for kids to have to constantly prop up their parents emotionally. It can stunt their own emotional growth and self confidence.

Something else I noticed last night was Kim telling Tyler how hard the next 30 days would be for him. Tyler tired to brush it off and say it would not be that bad, but Kim was determined to tell him how hard it would be. Look, being stuck as a single parent for 30 days sucks, but hell, lots of people do it 24/7 365 without MTV cash and a mom nearby to help out.  I feel like she has a need to build weakness into her kids. "No, honey, you can't possibly do that because you are not strong enough  or smart enough, etc." It was the same way when she was encouraging Ty to go to a residential treatment center. Why the hell aren't you cheering him on to got to college or get an education of some kind? I don;t recall Kim ever saying encouraging things to Tyler like  - "Look, Ty," I know this is tough right now, but I know you can get through this. Your are tough yourself and smart enough to navigate through this. I believe in you, and I am here to back you up 100%."  A lifetime of telling Amber that she is not good enough - strong enough -etc might have just pushed her inherited addict tendencies over the edge into true addiction. 

Kim may not be as outwardly toxic as, say, Debz OG EMBA, but sometimes the subtly of the emotional abuse can make it more insidious and harder to identify/ combat, especially if it is laced with moments of love and tenderness. 

[Mr. Miner]

Tyler is suppose to approve of Amber getting married. He says do I wish he had a car and a job...YES! lol! Tyler and Cate need to get out of MI and leave three generations of trash behind them.

[poeticlicensed]

7 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

Kim may not be as outwardly toxic as, say, Debz OG EMBA, but sometimes the subtly of the emotional abuse can make it more insidious and harder to identify/ combat, especially if it is laced with moments of love and tenderness

Getting knocked up at 16 may be an oops, but it also can be a manifestation of family issues. Look at all the TMs. Amber, Kail, Farrah, Janelle just to name a few, all have toxic relationships with their parents. It's not exactly surprising that they ended up pg. Even Saint Chelsea got pg after her parents divorced. 

I view Kim the way I view Mama Dawn. Not outwardly toxic, but there's a reason your kid ended up screwed up. Let me be clear, I don't blame parents for the actions of their kids, but family dysfunction plays a central role. 

[Cherry Cola]

So, the real question is, does Tyler's sister Amber try to get pregnant with her boyfriend's ankle bracelets plugged in? Because I find that hilarious!  

Poor Nova, I just want to hug the sweetie.  She misses her momma. 

Tyler's face did light up when Cate called, I was really surprised, but happy to see that! 

Bye Farrah, you won't be missed!!

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, eskimo said:

More so than the fact that Jody is not Gary's dad, his mom's 'oh well, what's for lunch' attitude really pissed me off.  Because of her, two people were really hurting and she didn't give a crap at all.  Not to mention she's taken all this money from Jody, and got him in legal trouble when he didn't pay, and the child wasn't even his!?!  I really hope that Gary and Jody still form a sort of father/son bond.  They at least have that horrible witch in common.  And if Jody does go on with the marriage, Jody will be his step-dad.  But I get the feeling that marriage is never going to happen.  He doesn't want enough sex, and she's a fucking bitch, so that'll put a damper on things for them.  (BTW, how could anyone ever be even remotely attracted to such a wretched woman!  That attitude has to be a huge penis-shrinker.)

Gary is so lucky to have Kristina, she genuinely cares about him and Leah.  I'd say it's close to time to circle the wagons and cut some people out. 

I was really floored by Gary's mom's reaction. From the little snippets we've seen of her over the years, I always thought she was a pretty sweet, supportive mother and grandmother. Clearly she gives no fucks about anyone but herself, and is happy to play fast and loose with people's lives and emotions. Fuck her. 

Gary is living proof that your past doesn't dictate who you are. Absent father figure growing up, coupled with confusion over who father is, compounded by heartless mother - and he's the most stable and involved parent on the series! Take that Kail and Jenelle and Amber....and all you other excuse makers! 

2 hours ago, gunderda said:

You cant really compared Porn to Naked and Afraid.  And it sounds like Bentley even watches Naked and Afraid because he knows the terminology and knows that parts are blurred out.

Agreed. My kids watch N&A with us. They do not watch porn. (Or Teen Mom, that matter.) 

 

1 hour ago, MollyZee said:

I know Tyler = DRAMZ but man, it does make me sad to see him shut down completely whenever his dysfunctional family comes around. Adderall Ambie walked into the house and he hightailed it out of there like Carly was waiting for him in the other room. His mood shifted, his body language tensed up, he was broadcasting GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE I CAN'T SAVE YOU and in comes Billy the dealer to try and bro him up? Seriously whoever said Amber needs to read the room nailed it. The codependency there is real and it is DARK.

That first scene was really hard to watch. He JUST dropped his dad off at rehab. Followed by his wife. He's alone now, taking care of his kid and his business (I know, I know...but it's something), while footing the bill for his sister and her junkie lifestyle at his old house.....and in she waltzes, with her fresh-out-of-jail beau and passel of rowdy kids. She clearly didn't come over to help with Nova, make some meals, clean the house. They just basically invaded his space and his body language could not be more clear. Hell, he went in the other room and was barely speaking. Take a hint, people!!!! 

 

12 minutes ago, Cherry Cola said:

So, the real question is, does Tyler's sister Amber try to get pregnant with her boyfriend's ankle bracelets plugged in? Because I find that hilarious!  

I have this oddly strong need to find out just how far that thing stretches. 

[poeticlicensed]

Re: the ankle monitor. I did a little digging and indeed, some states make the offender pay for the bracelet and the monitoring, and it can be quite pricey, like 300/month for equipment and monitoring. It looks like Michigan does not require the offender to pay, unless they damage, remove or lose it. But I did find something that said that the monitor needed to be charged at least 2 hours a day. I suspect that it was plugged in because he was charging it. 

[TexasGal]

20 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

That first scene was really hard to watch. He JUST dropped his dad off at rehab. Followed by his wife. He's alone now, taking care of his kid and his business (I know, I know...but it's something), while footing the bill for his sister and her junkie lifestyle at his old house.....and in she waltzes, with her fresh-out-of-jail beau and passel of rowdy kids. She clearly didn't come over to help with Nova, make some meals, clean the house. They just basically invaded his space and his body language could not be more clear. Hell, he went in the other room and was barely speaking. Take a hint, people!!!! 

 

But she brought some nice sugar for Nova so she could get all hyped up before they all leave her alone with Tyler!

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, Chickabiddy said:

I have to agree, and have been trying to tease out exactly what her dysfunction is - aside from choosing a supremely inappropriate man to father her kids. I have noticed that she is a real drama queen who makes her kids; strife all about her. Remember the scene when Tyler was complaining about how tired and stressed he was? It devolved rapidly into Kim crying about what a terrible mother she was and Tyler was then comforting her. It can be a real burden for kids to have to constantly prop up their parents emotionally. It can stunt their own emotional growth and self confidence.

Something else I noticed last night was Kim telling Tyler how hard the next 30 days would be for him. Tyler tired to brush it off and say it would not be that bad, but Kim was determined to tell him how hard it would be. Look, being stuck as a single parent for 30 days sucks, but hell, lots of people do it 24/7 365 without MTV cash and a mom nearby to help out.  I feel like she has a need to build weakness into her kids. "No, honey, you can't possibly do that because you are not strong enough  or smart enough, etc." It was the same way when she was encouraging Ty to go to a residential treatment center. Why the hell aren't you cheering him on to got to college or get an education of some kind? I don;t recall Kim ever saying encouraging things to Tyler like  - "Look, Ty," I know this is tough right now, but I know you can get through this. Your are tough yourself and smart enough to navigate through this. I believe in you, and I am here to back you up 100%."  A lifetime of telling Amber that she is not good enough - strong enough -etc might have just pushed her inherited addict tendencies over the edge into true addiction. 

Kim may not be as outwardly toxic as, say, Debz OG EMBA, but sometimes the subtly of the emotional abuse can make it more insidious and harder to identify/ combat, especially if it is laced with moments of love and tenderness. 

I think you have hit the nail on the head, @Chickabiddy. Kim has always gotten under my skin because she is such a Captain Bringdown. Everything is terrible and she's the opposite of supportive and encouraging. It seems whenever she's called upon to be a strong and helpful presence all she can manage is to whinge and point out every possible terrible outcome. She sucks. 

[Cherry Cola]

36 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Re: the ankle monitor. I did a little digging and indeed, some states make the offender pay for the bracelet and the monitoring, and it can be quite pricey, like 300/month for equipment and monitoring. It looks like Michigan does not require the offender to pay, unless they damage, remove or lose it. But I did find something that said that the monitor needed to be charged at least 2 hours a day. I suspect that it was plugged in because he was charging it. 

Oh darn, that isn't as fun to think about! I was giggling over him being plugged in for sex and plugging in to every room he was going to. 

[ghoulina]

27 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

But she brought some nice sugar for Nova so she could get all hyped up before they all leave her alone with Tyler!

Right??? The bag of marshmallows. I forgot. Holy shit, that bitch is crazy. And Tyler just looked at her like, "Gee. Thanks a lot."

[GreenlinetoHarlem]

15 hours ago, kit.kat343 said:

What did I just watch?

 

Did a producer actually tell Farrah with a straight face that, "out of 9 moms, you're the only one that's the problem?"   Unless the other 8 moms are all Chelsea, I find that really hard to believe.

 

And did Amber, a woman who left her couch at home to go sit on a couch in Hawaii, really pick a world traveler theme for her son's nursery so he could realize "that there was a whole big world out there?"

 

And did Tyler actually brush Nova's hair?

Also, hard to enjoy the whole big world when you can't get a passport because you don't pay your taxes, Ambie

[pheebs]

Guys - I propose a name for Tyler's sister to keep us me, from being confused.  How 'bout MethAmberPhetamine?

[BXD]

I honestly don't know much about drug addiction, but does anyone actually believe the only thing Tyler's sister Amber is (was?) taking was adderol?

[Snarky McSnarky]

27 minutes ago, pheebs said:

Guys - I propose a name for Tyler's sister to keep us me, from being confused.  How 'bout MethAmberPhetamine?

Or Slothless Amber.

Or Tax-Free Amber.

[gunderda]

3 hours ago, MollyZee said:

Kim must be some kind of award-winning actress because you don't procreate repeatedly with a hillbilly addict criminal and get to be half as normal as she appears to be. Something is up with her and it's wreaking havoc on that whole clan.  

ehhhh it can happen.  It's happening in my family.  My brother had two kids with a severe drug addict whose life probably mimics Butch but she's not that old yet but she's on that track.  My brother is VERY normal and is now married with a 3rd child.  I just hope neither of my 2 oldest nephews end up like Amber =/ 

20 minutes ago, BXD said:

I honestly don't know much about drug addiction, but does anyone actually believe the only thing Tyler's sister Amber is (was?) taking was adderol?

Not a chance in hell. Someone mentioned it might be code for something but I bet Kim wants to believe she's only hooked on adderall.  So that's what they make her believe. 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

I HATE it when Amber calls Leah "Booboo". First, she is neither Yogi Bear'sidekick nor a little mistake. Second, it makes it sound like she can't remember her daughter's name. If it was just a nickname she used with Leah,that works be one thing, but she uses that name when talking about Leah to others. My grandmother has a hard time remembering my daughter's name so she often refers to her as "Little Sugar", "Toodles", or "the baby", but she is in her eighties with memory problems. Amber is just obnoxious and sounds like a moron. 

[CofCinci]

3 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Something else I noticed last night was Kim telling Tyler how hard the next 30 days would be for him. Tyler tired to brush it off and say it would not be that bad, but Kim was determined to tell him how hard it would be. Look, being stuck as a single parent for 30 days sucks, but hell, lots of people do it 24/7 365 without MTV cash and a mom nearby to help out.  I feel like she has a need to build weakness into her kids. "No, honey, you can't possibly do that because you are not strong enough  or smart enough, etc." It was the same way when she was encouraging Ty to go to a residential treatment center. Why the hell aren't you cheering him on to got to college or get an education of some kind? I don;t recall Kim ever saying encouraging things to Tyler like  - "Look, Ty," I know this is tough right now, but I know you can get through this. Your are tough yourself and smart enough to navigate through this. I believe in you, and I am here to back you up 100%."  A lifetime of telling Amber that she is not good enough - strong enough -etc might have just pushed her inherited addict tendencies over the edge into true addiction. 

My impression of Kim’s statements were more “look at my son, the saint. It’s sooo hard.”

Meanwhile, the kid is in a day care all day. She probably eats breakfast there too. All he has to do is get the kid some dinner (probably fast food most nights), pop on Netflix and put her to bed.  Everything he’s doing while Catelynn is away at princess camp is what he does when she is home - because she is a useless drug addict couch lump. 

29 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I HATE it when Amber calls Leah "Booboo". First, she is neither Yogi Bear'sidekick nor a little mistake. Second, it makes it sound like she can't remember her daughter's name. If it was just a nickname she used with Leah,that works be one thing, but she uses that name when talking about Leah to others. My grandmother has a hard time remembering my daughter's name so she often refers to her as "Little Sugar", "Toodles", or "the baby", but she is in her eighties with memory problems. Amber is just obnoxious and sounds like a moron. 

Also, with Amber’s prison time and African-American friends, surely she knows that Boo Boo is slang for poop. 

3 hours ago, Cherry Cola said:

Tyler's face did light up when Cate called, I was really surprised, but happy to see that! 

Tyler had the MTV cameras on him. It’s all a show. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

What are the usage rules on "Babe"?  Amber referred to NuMatt in the third person as "Babe," as in "Babe does whatever" or something like that--just substituting "Babe" for his name.  I thought "Babe" was something you used when you're talking to Babe, not about Babe,  Or am I behind the times (as usual)?

[CaliforniaLove]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

Tyler had the MTV cameras on him. It’s all a show. 

Yep. It reminds me of the last episode (or the episode before that?) when Cate was having her breakdown. She called Tyler, and instead of answering "hello", or "hey babe", he answered with "you're the strongest woman I've ever met in my life". It just seemed so insincere, and not because I think he doesn't love her, but because my first reaction was "that wouldn't have been his opening if the cameras weren't around". 

40 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

What are the usage rules on "Babe"?  Amber referred to NuMatt in the third person as "Babe," as in "Babe does whatever" or something like that--just substituting "Babe" for his name.  I thought "Babe" was something you used when you're talking to Babe, not about Babe,  Or am I behind the times (as usual)?

You're not behind the times, Amber is just horribly insecure in any relationship she's in. 

[CofCinci]

43 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

What are the usage rules on "Babe"?  Amber referred to NuMatt in the third person as "Babe," as in "Babe does whatever" or something like that--just substituting "Babe" for his name.  I thought "Babe" was something you used when you're talking to Babe, not about Babe,  Or am I behind the times (as usual)?

She depersonalizes the people who are unfortunate enough to be in her life.  They are not individuals but are objects. She either has a use for the object or doesn’t. Amber and Janelle are too of the scariest women on this series.  Say what you will about Farrah, but she isn’t a sociopath. 

[FlowerofCarnage]

So did  Tyler's sister marry Billywade Elkins  because on SM, she goes by Amber Elkins?  Talk about water seeking it's own level with those two. 

[cheewhiz]

I never thought I would say this but poor Tyler.  First he takes Butch to rehab then what seems like almost immediately he takes his wife to rehab.  When is it Tyler’s turn to take care of himself?

Maci on Naked and Afraid?Cant see that happening and if it does happen I can’t see her lasting long. Girlfriend couldn’t even chop kindling.

Amber, Around the World baby shower? Shut up

Farrah, also shut up. You have respect for nobody.

Edited March 14, 2018 by cheewhiz
More to add and to correct Freudian slips

[CofCinci]

4 minutes ago, cheewhiz said:

I never thought I would say this but poor Tyler.  First he takes Butch to rehab then what seems like almost immediately he takes his wide to rehab.  When is it Tyler’s turn to take care of himself?

Tyler is able to take care of himself once Catelynn returns to rehab again. He starts eating right and seemed to be more present with Nova. 

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, pheebs said:

Guys - I propose a name for Tyler's sister to keep us me, from being confused.  How 'bout MethAmberPhetamine?

I figured something such as "Crystal" for crystal meth.

Speaking of Amber 2.0, the reason she cannot read a room is because she is an addict. Her brain is not capable of such a thing. All she is capable of doing when she enters a room is looking for a place she can lie down and if there is any change laying around that she can steal.

What happened to the Kim who got on Tyler's ass about his need for a real job and how MTV is not going to last forever?

[StatisticalOutlier]

28 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

She depersonalizes the people who are unfortunate enough to be in her life.  They are not individuals but are objects. She either has a use for the object or doesn’t. Amber and Janelle are too of the scariest women on this series.  Say what you will about Farrah, but she isn’t a sociopath. 

I'm not a psychologist, so I don't know if what Farrah has is actual sociopathy, but there's definitely something terribly wrong with her.  She's not as physically violent as Jenelle or Amber, but I don't think that tells the whole story, and it's faint praise, at best.

A "normal" person just doesn't treat others like Farrah does, and she's never to blame for anything that happens to her--it's always the "ignorant" people around her, the ones she proclaims she doesn't want to waste her time on any more.  That sounds to me like treating people like objects that she has a use for or doesn't. 

[AirQuotes]

Those paternity test results were just as I knew they would be.  Other than obesity, Gary and Jody don't favor each other at all.  My husband said they look exactly the same and I told him I'm making him an eye appt. lol

The only thing I can add is I'm extremely irritated by the Tierra Reign shipping methods and inventory warehousing in that gross house.  A plastic table is less than $50 at walmart or target.  Absolutely no reason to be putting that stuff on the floor to prepare it for shipping!  It is bad ergonomics for their bodies and bad for the customers.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear the clothes stinks of stale weed, cigarette smoke, and animal excrement.

[jumper sage]

9 hours ago, eskimo said:

More so than the fact that Jody is not Gary's dad, his mom's 'oh well, what's for lunch' attitude really pissed me off.  Because of her, two people were really hurting and she didn't give a crap at all.  Not to mention she's taken all this money from Jody, and got him in legal trouble when he didn't pay, and the child wasn't even his!?!  I really hope that Gary and Jody still form a sort of father/son bond.  They at least have that horrible witch in common.  And if Jody does go on with the marriage, Jody will be his step-dad.  But I get the feeling that marriage is never going to happen.  He doesn't want enough sex, and she's a fucking bitch, so that'll put a damper on things for them.  (BTW, how could anyone ever be even remotely attracted to such a wretched woman!  That attitude has to be a huge penis-shrinker.)

Gary is so lucky to have Kristina, she genuinely cares about him and Leah.  I'd say it's close to time to circle the wagons and cut some people out. 

True!  While I was watching the scene at the diner I was yelling, "Hug you two, hug".  They just need to commit themselves to each other and I understand Gary's need to find his real father.  I wanted to smack the crap out of his mother.

1 hour ago, cheewhiz said:

I never thought I would say this but poor Tyler.  First he takes Butch to rehab then what seems like almost immediately he takes his wide to rehab.

Typo?  

1 hour ago, cheewhiz said:

Maci on Naked and Afraid?

I could not believe that.  I hate the show but will watch Maci go down.

HURRAY!  FARRAH IS GONE!

[Chickabiddy]

1 hour ago, AirQuotes said:

The only thing I can add is I'm extremely irritated by the Tierra Reign shipping methods and inventory warehousing in that gross house.  A plastic table is less than $50 at walmart or target.  Absolutely no reason to be putting that stuff on the floor to prepare it for shipping!  It is bad ergonomics for their bodies and bad for the customers.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear the clothes stinks of stale weed, cigarette smoke, and animal excrement.

Totally. And I cracked up because Ty looked like he only had a few to pack up, and yet his face was pained as if he had been digging ditches in the hot sun for 12 hours. He is in for such a rude awakening when this shit show ends and he is working at Wendy’s on his hoofs all day or roofing if he is lucky. I would laugh  if the rude awakening were not going to be so goddamn painful and tragic.

[For Cereals]

12 hours ago, CaliforniaLove said:

So even in REHAB, Cate manages to get into a couple of scenes. While it made sense to me why she'd be in a scene Facetiming with her family, why was she randomly in Indiana at Amber's house? Amber was laying on her & calling her "her spirit animal" while NuMatt painted swatches on the wall? Weird. 

Oh I see what you did there bwahahaha!

 

I worry about Gary and Cate’s weight, but Amber is also going to put herself at risk over time by being on the couch so much (I say this as a couch potato myself but I do go to a job everyday and try to get out and walk around).  I doubt she gets much physical activity (I’ll bet she didn’t move much to make the baby) which will not be good for her heart.  Surgery isn’t going to fix that.  Hopefully the baby won’t suffer.  Gary is big but at least he’s somewhat active on his land.  Cate, well, I don’t know.

Edited March 14, 2018 by For Cereals

[jumper sage]

@For Cereals - you reminded me that Amber calling a sloth her spirit animal had me guffawing.

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Totally. And I cracked up because Ty looked like he only had a few to pack up, and yet his face was pained as if he had been digging ditches in the hot sun for 12 hours. He is in for such a rude awakening when this shit show ends and he is working at Wendy’s on his hoofs all day or roofing if he is lucky. I would laugh  if the rude awakening were not going to be so goddamn painful and tragic.

Oh, I will laugh. Many times over. That day cannot come fast enough.

[teapot]

Amber in her onesie talking about how exciting it was for Leah to be a big sister...and when was the last time you saw her?

the best part of Farrah’s segments is that we were spared her weird family members!

Tylers Mom: “Amber’s here”

Ty: “my sister?”

no, you moron.  Amber Portwood stopped by after she helped Habitat for Humanity build a few houses in Michigan!

Did anyone notice Ty said Cate was depressed and THEN she had a miscarriage?  I think he’s as over her stay at”princess camp” (whoever said this is brilliant) as we are.

when Nova was freaking, he peeked in the room, looked at her, and walked out.  Don’t worry, three year olds don’t need to be comforted when they’re upset!

Also I believe he may be dipping into Amber’s Adderall, he barely let her talk in the car.  Unless he wanted the camera on him.

Edited March 14, 2018 by teapot

[GreatKazu]

35 minutes ago, teapot said:

Amber in her onesie talking about how exciting it was for Leah to be a big sister...and when was the last time you saw her?

the best part of Farrah’s segments is that we were spared her weird family members!

Tylers Mom: “Amber’s here”

Ty: “my sister?”

no, you moron.  Amber Portwood stopped by after she helped Habitat for Humanity build a few houses in Michigan!

Did anyone notice Ty said Cate was depressed and THEN she had a miscarriage?  I think he’s as over her stay at”princess camp” (whoever said this is brilliant) as we are.

when Nova was freaking, he peeked in the room, looked at her, and walked out.  Don’t worry, three year olds don’t need to be comforted when they’re upset!

Also I believe he may be dipping into Amber’s Adderall, he barely let her talk in the car.  Unless he wanted the camera on him.

I will go with Tyler wanting the camera on him.

He is tired of sending his wife to fat camp to eat those five star meals, only to return home and continue with her Munchausen-like existence.

[eskimo]

1 hour ago, teapot said:

no, you moron.  Amber Portwood stopped by after she helped Habitat for Humanity build a few houses in Michigan!

I'd give you a trophy for this comment if I could...

[Bridget]

On 3/12/2018 at 10:26 PM, hoosiermom said:

That is horrific for ANY room.

Am I the only one who has the theme song to the Golden Girls (which is straight up sacrilegious because they are awesome & Amber is not)) in their head after seeing this "explore the world" theme in the nursery NuMatt's new room?

I also wonder why there aren't any other photos of NuMatt's new room. Maybe because that's all they have finished? Or is NuMatt trying to build a crib like Cole?  hahahaha

And remember...Amber needed to know the gender to choose ONE fabric swatch that she used for three pieces of framed fabric "art",  the non-rocking/non-gliding chair and an ottoman. It's clear she has zero intent on being in that room. I hope the chair is extra sturdy and that NuMatt's big butt doesn't break the chair because we all know he will be the only one using it.

(I do admit that I have to thank Amber for giving me a new example to use when teaching irony! Of ALL of the possible room themes, SHE chose something that involved not sitting on a bed!)

[Bridget]

2 hours ago, teapot said:

Amber in her onesie talking about how exciting it was for Leah to be a big sister...and when was the last time you saw her?

the best part of Farrah’s segments is that we were spared her weird family members!

Tylers Mom: “Amber’s here”

Ty: “my sister?”

no, you moron.  Amber Portwood stopped by after she helped Habitat for Humanity build a few houses in Michigan!

Did anyone notice Ty said Cate was depressed and THEN she had a miscarriage?  I think he’s as over her stay at”princess camp” (whoever said this is brilliant) as we are.

when Nova was freaking, he peeked in the room, looked at her, and walked out.  Don’t worry, three year olds don’t need to be comforted when they’re upset!

Also I believe he may be dipping into Amber’s Adderall, he barely let her talk in the car.  Unless he wanted the camera on him.

Bolded lines #1: I love you. That is all.

Bolded lines #2: Maybe because Nova's room was a total disaster area and there wasn't room for him? Pillows on the floor (without pillow cases on them - yuck!), shit was strewn everywhere and there wasn't three inches of space that was cleared off. Not a mom, but I was shocked at how messy that room was. I know she wasn't even 3 at the time, but surely she can put her pillows on her toddler bed and pick up 3 things from the floor or see how much crap she can put away in 3 mins? Right? 

In all seriousness, I am with you though. Both Kim and Tyler acted like they had no idea how to comfort Nova and that's just sad. Kim's face was pure  "oh shit! I have no idea how to help my granddaughter."

Tyler's huge ass mistake was that he didn't allow Nova to say goodbye to Cate via FaceTime, so she didn't have a clue that Cate was gone by the time she finished drawing her mom a "pitcher." Kids need to say goodbye & have that closure, no matter if it's a parent being gone for 30 mins or 30 days. My mom travelled a lot when I was growing up and I know how hard it was on me (as early as 7 yrs old) to not be able to say goodbye or goodnight, even when I knew she'd call again the following night.