S06.E06: Move-Ins

[Booger666]

On 2/6/2018 at 10:39 PM, Jassie99 said:

Lastly, douche Ryan. Thats all I get from him and I really liked his energy in the beginning but the way he talks to people is so condescending.  I don't like how he seem to make a production out of the fact he was helping her through her hard time only to throw it in her face the next day or night.

I completely agree with you.  If he talked to me that way I would be so upset but she just calmly said she didn’t understand where he was coming from.  She has the patience of a saint.  I have no idea whether or not she is ready to move on but by doing this show she clearly thinks she is and she is putting in the effort so I have to believe her.  That doesn’t mean that she can’t grieve the loss of someone she loved while learning to love someone new.  It would be like if she lost a sibling and Ryan told her to shut up about it because he’s her family now.  Just no.

[Yeah No]

26 minutes ago, Mlle. Kitty said:

 Smize, Shawniece, and while you’re at it, consider switching gears with Jephte.  Consider just backing off from Jephte and carrying on to get as much you can for yourself from this Radical Social Experiment without trying to get blood from the Jephte turnip.  I agree with the poster who opined that Jephte would be quicker to respond if Shawniece stopped trying so hard. Shawniece seems intelligent, has a good sense of humor, and has a lot to offer.  Jephte might realize this if he’s no longer busy trying to fend off her attempts to get closer. And if he doesn’t come around, well, c’est la vie, and there are many fish in the sea.

Old relationship therapy advice - Engage in a little "reverse psychology".  If pursuing someone makes them run away from you try mimicking their behavior and back waaaaaay off.  If after a time they don't come around, then you know there's no hope for the relationship.  It's the old "set something free, if it comes back to you it's yours" philosophy.  The only problem is that Shawniece didn't sign on to engage in dating therapy tactics.  She signed on to be involved with someone that was just as committed the process and pursuing a relationship as she was.  I'd imagine that getting married first before letting things happen in their own time makes backing off all that much more difficult because there's a built-in level of expectation there that the other person wants to enter into the process with you or else they wouldn't have agreed to get married.  I think this show is BS because the "experts" aren't admonishing someone like Jephte on his behavior and encouraging him to make more of an effort.  They seemed to do that in the first few seasons but then stopped and just let the #$@&! fly.  In "Unfiltered", all Pastor Cal could do was roll his eyes next to Jepthe when he said things that were ridiculous.

Edited February 8, 2018 by Yeah No

[Gem 10]

10 hours ago, love2lovebadtv said:

I'm not seeing Jon's issue. He lost his job  because of this choice to be on  this show. Not like he's chronically unemployed or unemployable - that would be an issue. Not saying he doesn't have any but I'm not seeing anything that looks like an issue. 

Correct.  Jon did not have an issue.   I agree.

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, qtpye said:

If Jephte was even a little bit interested in Shawnice, he would be acting like a whole different person.  I have notices when he is not around her, he can be pretty chill an laid back.  He is a quiet sort, but can be charming.  For example the way he acted around the guys compared to Shawnice in his Honeymoon.

I can not blame him for disliking his match, but I can blame him for acting like a jerk to her...he can at least be civil.  He knew what he signed up for and at this point he is probably just showing up for the pay check and because he has contractual obligations, otherwise he would be gone.

I feel bad for Shawnice...she seemed to really believe in the process.  She was very protective of him during unfiltered, so who knows, maybe these two crazy kids work out.

 

The thing is, Jepthe is not fulfilling the brief. This isn't a date. He and Shawniece are married. The idea is not "you will marry a stranger at first sight and lets see if you like her". He seems to think he's on that old MTV show, "Next".  But he should be proceeding in good faith, looking for the good and giving it a chance. He's acting like the this has been foisted on him against his will. He's shown his true character in no uncertain terms. He is unkind, he is self centered, he is sulky and uncommunicative, and he shows no graciousness or gentlemanly behavior. If he was a good decent person he would be mortified to act as he does. Shawniece, despite the fact that she spoke openly of masturbation (horrors!) or danced sexily for her new husband, is more courteous and well mannered than her (soon to be ex, I hope) spouse.

22 minutes ago, Mlle. Kitty said:

I’m envious of her ability to transform herself into so many different looks.  I think she’s really beautiful, and a bit of a chameleon.  If Tyra taught me anything, it’s to appreciate one’s ability to change it up like that.  Smize, Shawniece, and while you’re at it, consider switching gears with Jephte.  Consider just backing off from Jephte and carrying on to get as much you can for yourself from this Radical Social Experiment without trying to get blood from the Jephte turnip.  I agree with the poster who opined that Jephte would be quicker to respond if Shawniece stopped trying so hard. Shawniece seems intelligent, has a good sense of humor, and has a lot to offer.  Jephte might realize this if he’s no longer busy trying to fend off her attempts to get closer. And if he doesn’t come around, well, c’est la vie, and there are many fish in the sea.

One good thing about this whole debacle is that Shawniece will probably have her pick after the smoke clears. She is adorable.

[humbleopinion]

What is Jon's deal?

Jon is lonely.

He took in a cranky, ill tempered cat named Dawn because it was better than being alone.

Hope that is not foreshadowing how much he is willing to put up with Molly's BS...she is not into him, unless we are in for a blindside of epic proportions....

Jon wants a partner to share adventures like  diving in exotic places, a woman dedication to fitness, who likes his quipiness and can dish it right back and most importantly..."gets" Jon.

At this point...9 days into their marathon date/marriage Molly likes Jon but not enough... for sexy time.

 Jon is the new Cody Knapek... begging for a crumb of affection like Shawniece.

 

One MORE problem this couple will have is money...or where their money is spent.

Jon owns one suit and 5 dress shirts for work, he spends his money on exercise clothes, sports equipment, travel..and probably long term investments.

Molly's salary goes to...

Student loans, she has 2 degrees.

Clothes...she has sh!t ton of clothes that the closet door can barely contain from tsunaming onto her bedroom floor.

Jugs of foundation with hand pump dispensers.

Enough shoes...seriously...enough.

Thinking that if Jon had deeper pockets... had more accumulated accouterments of material wealth, would Molly would be more attracted to him?

Jon has a wealth of life's experiences but maybe not a bunch of furniture or a closet full of suits.

Will her attraction to him increase if he lands a high paying job?

Looks like Jon will be the chump paying 2/3 of the rent while she pays her measly 33%...how is that fair?

Bet he is glad he didn't pay more her ring...that would have been a bad long term investment if we are to believe the poor outlook on their marriage lasting beyond the show's contract.

Edited February 8, 2018 by humbleopinion

[gonecrackers]

Masked Molly won't be putting up with an unemployed Jon for too long.

Jon puts 'love' before employment, & stranger-wife before kitty-Dawn, who he supposedly really loves & wasn't going anywhere.

So far I like Jon but his choices have been questionable, IMO.
 

Ryan is an overblown putz who doesn't use his words properly. He said Jaclyn was going through 'skeletons from her past' in the boxes.

-Was she a madame of a high priced brothel?
-An ex-porn star?
-Past jail time for embezzlement?

Um, no... the boxes aren't  full of "skeletons", but memories of someone she actually loved, you idiot.

Edited February 8, 2018 by gonecrackers

[Gem 10]

19 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

What is Jon's deal?

Jon is lonely.

He took in a cranky, ill tempered cat named Dawn because it was better than being alone.

Hope that is not foreshadowing how much he is willing to put up with Molly's BS...she is not into him, unless we are in for a blindside of epic proportions....

Jon wants a partner to share adventures like  diving in exotic places, a woman dedication to fitness, who likes his quipiness and can dish it right back and most importantly..."gets" Jon.

At this point...9 days into their marathon date/marriage Molly likes Jon but not enough... for sexy time.

 Jon is the new Cody Knapek... begging for a crumb of affection like Shawniece.

 

One MORE problem this couple will have is money...or where their money is spent.

Jon owns one suit and 5 dress shirts for work, he spends his money on exercise clothes, sports equipment, travel..and probably long term investments.

Molly's salary goes to...

Student loans, she has 2 degrees.

Clothes...she has sh!t ton of clothes that the closet door can barely contain from tsunaming onto her bedroom floor.

Jugs of foundation with hand pump dispensers.

Enough shoes...seriously...enough.

Thinking that if Jon had deeper pockets... had more accumulated accouterments of material wealth, would Molly would be more attracted to him?

Will her attraction to him increase if he lands a high paying job?

Looks like Jon will be the chump paying 2/3 of the rent while she pays her measly 33%...how is that fair?

Bet he is glad he didn't pay more her ring...that would have been a bad long term investment.

YES !   If Jon doesn't find a good paying job soon, Molly will consider him an "issue".  On the sex, she seems the type who will not be warm and cuddly and enjoying it.  It will be like a honor to have sex with her.  "Jon, don't mess my hair" .. "Jon, take 2 showers before coming to bed" .. Jon, don't mess the sheets" ..  Jon, don't touch me there" .. "Jon, get off its been 5 minutes, I need my sleep".    Hope I'm wrong, the guy is exploding already.

[jenifaohjenny]

I feel like unless you have experience grief first hand (and I don't mean Gramma died after she lived a long life, but someone young who had everything ahead of them) you just do NOT get it.  My best friend died and someone very close to me always was like, get over it.  It took me about 5 years to get to a normal space with the grief because we were SO in each others lives. The first year or so, horrible.  Ryan needs to back the fuck off. I also think she should have waited. When Jacyln was crying with the boxes I was yelling at Ryan - hug her, comfort her, tell her it is alright.  Instead he choose to make it all about himself and her going "backwards" and not being committed to him.  What an ass.

I don't even understand WHY Jephte is on this show?  At all?  Why?  It annoys me because they probably could have found someone so much better for Shawniece. 

[OnTime]

On ‎2‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 10:15 PM, Empress1 said:

Molly and Jon were pretty boring. Molly's friend looks a lot like her.

Isn't that her sister? I believe she has a twin sister.

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV podcast on the episode!

Married At First Sight Forces Jephte To Move In With Shawniece, Which Will Probably Fix Everything

The newlyweds return from their honeymoons to find their love shacks. This is hardest for Shawniece and Jephte, who aren't any less miserable in Boston than they were in Jamaica.

[humbleopinion]

Am sure the producers told Jackie that going through the boxes would make good TV so wait and let them shoot her opening them.

Asshat Ryan should have seen her tears, gathered her in his arms, shielded her from the camera lens and walked her out the door...away from camera range....

Risk ruining the camera shot and comfort your wife...that's what you promised to do in your vows...protect her.

[Nancybeth]

I assume that every time Ryan mentions Jackie's ex-boyfriend he's just desperately trying not to say "dead boyfriend."  

[gonecrackers]

Ryan, again, please learn to use words - "late" or "deceased" is polite & appropriate.

"Dead" is just accurate; "ex" is not.

[ramble]

I understand the idea of playing a bit hard to get and turning the tables on Jephte. However, this is marriage, and I find the idea of having to engage in game playing as you guess what will work for this guy ridiculous. Shawneice may need to moderate herself some times, but she should still stay who she is. It’s MARRIED at first sight, not decide if you’re worthy of my presence. I’ll echo what we all seem to be saying, why did Jephte do this show?! 

Yet again I’m going to grudgingly stick up for Molly. If I were to ever do this show (never, nope, no way) I’d ask at the alter about cats. That’s how allergic I am. I didn’t see Molly tell Jon he had to get rid of the cat. She mentioned taking meds and not sleeping with it. Jon rehomed it with a friend until they know if they’re going to last and then he’ll decide what to do. I find that reasonable. 

I’m slightly ashamed of how much thought I’ve given all this. 

[izabella]

50 minutes ago, ramble said:

I understand the idea of playing a bit hard to get and turning the tables on Jephte. However, this is marriage, and I find the idea of having to engage in game playing as you guess what will work for this guy ridiculous. Shawneice may need to moderate herself some times, but she should still stay who she is. It’s MARRIED at first sight, not decide if you’re worthy of my presence. I’ll echo what we all seem to be saying, why did Jephte do this show?! 

The thing is, just because they're married already, it doesn't erase human nature.  A lot of men don't like to be "chased"and turn off.

[glitterpussy]

1 hour ago, humbleopinion said:

Am sure the producers told Jackie that going through the boxes would make good TV so wait and let them shoot her opening them.

Asshat Ryan should have seen her tears, gathered her in his arms, shielded her from the camera lens and walked her out the door...away from camera range....

Risk ruining the camera shot and comfort your wife...that's what you promised to do in your vows...protect her.

Totally this. First, aren't they moving into fully furnished apartments/AirBnbs for six weeks? Why would she NEED to go through all this stuff? Total setup but she must have gone along with it. Did she agree to be on the show with this as her "backstory" and then realize it was too sad? Did they ambush her with it? I can't decide....I like her but it smells a little.

Ryan--no matter what he's an ass. Mr. GP was yelling JUST HUG HER! GOD, MAN! And that talk about skeletons was absurd. I hate him.

Molly is pretty obnoxious this week.  I guess Jon thinks she's hot because her personality isn't winning any prizes, She's exhausting with all her demands and insecurities. Still think she's a never-nude!

S&J--worse by the week! I felt bad for her when she was crying to her mom. He won't even hold her hand? What?! What's the harm in that Jephte, you jerk?!

[dreamkiller]

21 hours ago, princelina said:

To me the fact that she has all of his stuff in her basement says she's not ready.  Does she think she will get married, have kids, and every time they move cart a dozen boxes of dead boyfriend stuff to the new place?  (For the record, I dated a guy with a dead wife once - won't do it again :(

 

Yes, that is likely exactly what she thinks at this time. I'm the same age as Jackie and lost my boyfriend (who I expected to soon be my fiancé) very unexpectedly last year. I have yet to put away pictures of him or gifts from him, but will be moving soon and plan to box all of those keepsakes to take with me. Losing a partner can be difficult at any age. The special difficulty of losing that person in your 20s is that few people expect to feel "widowed" at that age and are expected to move on at some point. I have no idea what Jackie is doing on this show so soon after her partner's death (I can't imagine searching for a new partner), but I can imagine that a part of her choice to participate is to feel forced into moving on. We all know that moving on is inevitable and she may have chosen to jump into the pool rather than sticking her big toe in. 

[LuvMyShows]

19 hours ago, duckduckgoose said:

Wrong... I refer back to the example I used of if my husband died. Would it be ok for my new husband (or anyone) to continuously say, "sorry about the death of your ex-husband". Uh, no! He's my husband who's now passed, my LATE husband. Try going up to a widow and asking her something about her ex-husband. Cuz, you know, he's not her husband anymore.... therefore must be an ex. 

But how is it fair to the current husband, to have the dead one be called the "late husband"?  That implies a primacy of the dead husband over the current husband.  Maybe "former husband who passed away" would work for the first reference in speaking about him to someone new, and then shortened to just "former husband" from thereafter?  "Former" doesn't have the negative connotations that "ex-husband" has.     

[humbleopinion]

When Ryan is not performing for the cameras, Jackie and he probably just call him by his name, Nick, when discussing him.

[princelina]

2 hours ago, dreamkiller said:

Yes, that is likely exactly what she thinks at this time. I'm the same age as Jackie and lost my boyfriend (who I expected to soon be my fiancé) very unexpectedly last year. I have yet to put away pictures of him or gifts from him, but will be moving soon and plan to box all of those keepsakes to take with me. Losing a partner can be difficult at any age. The special difficulty of losing that person in your 20s is that few people expect to feel "widowed" at that age and are expected to move on at some point. I have no idea what Jackie is doing on this show so soon after her partner's death (I can't imagine searching for a new partner), but I can imagine that a part of her choice to participate is to feel forced into moving on. We all know that moving on is inevitable and she may have chosen to jump into the pool rather than sticking her big toe in. 

Well I am very sorry for your loss.  I'm sure it is incredibly hard and I understand wanting to hang on to things for a certain period of time.  I just think that to be ready for marriage (not necessarily dating) you have to first be ready to part with some things - certainly not every keepsake, but the majority of a basement-full.

[Jack Sampson]

Ryan will have to deal with Jackie wanting to name his future son, Nick.  Every time he sees that kid, Ryan will know that he's just a cheap substitute for her True Love™

[LotusEsq]

I can’t believe after all that showboating Ryan has been doing about money - bragging about spending the most on the ring, about how many jobs he has, investments, ragging on Jon for being unemployed...he has 2 roommates and makes $60-70k??? I’m embarassed for him. I was expecting double that based on how he has been talking!

[Jassie99]

15 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Old relationship therapy advice - Engage in a little "reverse psychology".  If pursuing someone makes them run away from you try mimicking their behavior and back waaaaaay off.  If after a time they don't come around, then you know there's no hope for the relationship.  It's the old "set something free, if it comes back to you it's yours" philosophy.  The only problem is that Shawniece didn't sign on to engage in dating therapy tactics.  She signed on to be involved with someone that was just as committed the process and pursuing a relationship as she was.  I'd imagine that getting married first before letting things happen in their own time makes backing off all that much more difficult because there's a built-in level of expectation there that the other person wants to enter into the process with you or else they wouldn't have agreed to get married.  I think this show is BS because the "experts" aren't admonishing someone like Jephte on his behavior and encouraging him to make more of an effort.  They seemed to do that in the first few seasons but then stopped and just let the #$@&! fly.  In "Unfiltered", all Pastor Cal could do was roll his eyes next to Jepthe when he said things that were ridiculous.

I agree. One thing you touched on is how the show would call these people out and  that's one of the things that attracted me to teh show. It felt more "real" esp. the first two seasons.  The one thing I wish they would bring back is the real reunion show they used to do with that Kevin guy. He is a black guy host of Entertainment Tonight and he was wonderful and it got so real. That's when we learned how horrible Vaughn was to Monet and how when she had her leg injury and he wanted sex he got made and said "your hand is not broken!". It got so real. He went on how she was acting for the cameras, etc.... Kevin was calling everyone out esp. in Season 2. It was great!

The show is in a weird position because unlike the bachelor its not an controlled environment. They tape these people 40 hrs a week. The couples make certain to be "on" and have many times discussed they talk about what is going to be shown on camera and what is not. Ashley esp. has stated that her and Anthony kept many things from the producers. TPTB are also really bad at getting info from these couples thus things get really repetitive. I think they're getting better but  it remains to be an issue. I think think its why we haven't seen true connections like we saw on S1 even if they are together in the case of Anthony and Ashley, they are very much guarded. And with such a focus on how great the experts were and how good they did we don't get that real call out at the finale like we did.

[jpagan05]

12 hours ago, jenifaohjenny said:

I feel like unless you have experience grief first hand (and I don't mean Gramma died after she lived a long life, but someone young who had everything ahead of them) you just do NOT get it.  My best friend died and someone very close to me always was like, get over it.  It took me about 5 years to get to a normal space with the grief because we were SO in each others lives. The first year or so, horrible.  Ryan needs to back the fuck off. I also think she should have waited. When Jacyln was crying with the boxes I was yelling at Ryan - hug her, comfort her, tell her it is alright.  Instead he choose to make it all about himself and her going "backwards" and not being committed to him.  What an ass.

YEEESSSS! Leave Jacklyn alone. Of course she's triggered by the old boxes. She said she hadn't gone through them. They didn't have to show that part on TV. It doesn't mean she should be a fucking widow until society deems it acceptable for her to move on. Ryan would drive my insane but I think he's great for her- very doting and sweet. He'll figure it out. I think she appreciates him.

Shawnice and Jephte- jeeeez, if they could only come over to each other's side just a skosh, they'd be right in the middle. She's over emotional and he's under. I think when some time passes, they'll be okay. 

The cat thing made me sad. But Jon quit his job for this show so.....and the cat cannot be that bad if she let's him pick her up. Hopefully that will work out. It's not Molly's fault but I cannot stand when people pawn off animals because a life situation has changed. IMHO if you rescue an animal, they are your responsibility for their short little lives. Everything should be taken into consideration.

@Jenifaohjenny, please please please tell me your name is from the De La Soul song!!!

[jpagan05]

OH, and I could be extra stoned but, Jacklyn and Ryan and Jon and Molly are living in the same apartment building, right? Did they look at the exact same apartment----maybe a model for the building? Same acrylic furniture, same area rug, same Wayfair sunburst mirror in the bedroom? Same parking across the street? Someone help me!

[humbleopinion]

The agent showing the apartments for Jackie/Ryan and Jon/Molly was the exact same woman.

Jon/Molly-1 bedroom, 1 bath-$2,100/month. Parking in the vicinity with a garage across the street.

Jackie/Ryan-2 bedroom, 2 bath-$2,400/month. Parking in the same building, perhaps preferred parking since they opted for the bigger apartment.

The agent showed the apartments at night so it was hard to see the street landmarks below from the windows.

The same stylist did both apartments..with the framed artwork, lighting, dishes, doodads on the tables from TJMaxx Homeplace.

Yes, jpagan...the exact same sunburst accent over both beds, grey shag area rugs(circle for the Francetics, 3 giant rectangles for the Buckleys) and use of acrylic furniture...so you weren't stoned enough, your eyes still sharp..

That would be an interesting twist if they were neighbors...since Jon and Ryan whip out their weens to compare every time they get together...their contempt for each other would be another dynamic to snark on.

Furnished places skeeve me out so at least everything looks new and fresh... no stained sofas with permanent butt dents in the cushions, dingy linens, lumpy pillows, or chipped plates and glasses.

[qtpye]

3 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

The agent showing the apartments for Jackie/Ryan and Jon/Molly was the exact same woman.

Jon/Molly-1 bedroom, 1 bath-$2,100/month. Parking in the vicinity with a garage across the street.

Jackie/Ryan-2 bedroom, 2 bath-$2,400/month. Parking in the same building, perhaps preferred parking since they opted for the bigger apartment.

The agent showed the apartments at night so it was hard to see the street landmarks below from the windows.

The same stylist did both apartments..with the framed artwork, lighting, dishes, doodads on the tables from TJMaxx Homeplace.

Yes, jpagan...the exact same sunburst accent over both beds, grey shag area rugs(circle for the Francetics, 3 giant rectangles for the Buckleys) and use of acrylic furniture...so you weren't stoned enough, your eyes still sharp..

That would be an interesting twist if they were neighbors...since Jon and Ryan whip out their weens to compare every time they get together...their contempt for each other would be another dynamic to snark on.

Furnished places skeeve me out so at least everything looks new and fresh... no stained sofas with permanent butt dents in the cushions, dingy linens, lumpy pillows, or chipped plates and glasses.

Heck, let's just go one step further and put all of them in the Big Brother House.  The quality of the suites each couple will receive will be on par with what they can afford in the real world.

Molly's competitive nature will make her sleep with Jon, just so she can make sure they are "winning".

Ryan will taunt Jon about not having a job, until Jon gets a job that makes twice as much as Ryan and then Ryan will just try to out romance everybody.  "I got my wife 10 dozen roses for Valentine's Day, unlike the losers that only get their wife 1 dozen...like Jon."

Jephte will sleep in the car in his driveway, as that is the closest he will agree to sleep around Shawnice.

The show has become a joke, so might as well....

[humbleopinion]

Think Jon and Molly would crush the others in the Amazing Race ....

Jon's Army skills, analytic chops, physicality matched with Molly's competitiveness, athleticism and bitchiness makes them the easy winners.

Ryan would get eliminated at one of the stops where details matter, one letter out of place or color in the wrong slot...he would be burning rubber trying to do the task too fast...

Jephte would just have a hard time just getting out of the airport as they travel from one continent to another...

Jackie is so warm and would make friends with everyone they meet so locals would help her with the clues despite Ryan's oafish behaviors.

Shawniece is a doer and a shaker so pure persistence and determination would keep her team going.

[sarkygal]

8 hours ago, jpagan05 said:

OH, and I could be extra stoned but, Jacklyn and Ryan and Jon and Molly are living in the same apartment building, right? Did they look at the exact same apartment----maybe a model for the building? Same acrylic furniture, same area rug, same Wayfair sunburst mirror in the bedroom? Same parking across the street? Someone help me!

Not to go off topic, but MAFS New Zealand actually had all the couples live in the same apartment complex and it made for very interesting dynamics. I think the producers are trying out elements from the other MAFS, as AU had the women & men meet for drinks prior to the weddings and NZ has weekly dinner parties, which the "experts" observed and commented on in real time. The US version is so corrupted by over editing and need for drama that I find the others more interesting. And they also have older couples participating, so you do get a better appreciation of the "experiment". 

 

So I don't get dinged for going completely off-topic, I think Jephte is incredibly immature and uncomfortable with a woman initiating physical contact. I looked more closely at their interaction and he touches Shawniece playfully fairly often. It's not a romantic touch, but he is getting comfortable in her presence. I distrust the editing on this show so much that I can't tell if he's really all that horrible. She's toned down her inappropriateness and I quite like her.

Now Ryan, no editing can convince me he's not an overcompensating windbag. 

[calpurnia99]

On 2/8/2018 at 2:00 AM, Yeah No said:

I agree with you that Jaclyn is more attractive than Ryan but even so something about her face bugs me.  I know I know I'm being shallow but I can't help but find her chipmunk cheeks and strangely thin upper lip in comparison to a rather full lower lip and huge teeth annoying.  And to make matters worse she tends to roll her upper lip up even thinner and her hairstyle only exaggerates her cheeks!

While I'm being shallow I might as well confess that while I think Molly is attractive, I find her way too tall and lanky and straight figured.  Even her face is extremely long and thin.  I caught a look at her rear end and it was really tiny for a woman.  Plus her shoulders are very broad and she's all arms and legs.  Not really my idea of the ideal shape, although I realize in our culture tall thin and blonde is always prized as ideal no matter what.  I personally think Shawniece and Jacklyn have far more beautiful figures.

Lol, yes but I thought the way she paraded around the hotel lobby in that bikini she thought she looked so great in it. I, shallow that I am, noticed her belly was flabby. Okay it's fine to wear on the beach--but not to be walking around INSIDE a hotel like that. I mean she was practically naked. She must have thought she looked great but she had a bloated stomach I don't think she is very pretty. Actually the two of them could pass for brother and sister. They look exactly the same. Shallow Shallow Shallow, yes 2 4's

But they need to set these people up according to attractiveness. Someone like Molly looks great in no matter what clothing she puts on. Men love the skinny skinny look like she has so I think John is smitten with it. To me they are 2 10's. At least both are 9's. 

Shawniece looks beautiful sometimes and like a hot mess at other times. 

[Gem 10]

I'm thinking about this show and the concept of getting married to someone you've never met is so hard.  Speaking for myself, and some others I have talked to,  we would know in 5 seconds after meeting someone if we wanted to see them again.  Jon,  Ryan and Shawnice were instantly attracted.  Molly, Jep and Jacklyn .. Not so much, but were willing to try as they had to because of the contract.   Jep definitely checked out when he saw Shawnice,Molly and Jacklyn, I just don't know.  Should be interesting.   I still believe in love at first sight.

[EastCoast4Life]

50 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

I still believe in love at first sight.

I do too, I just haven't seen it on this show. I also think it's possible to meet someone, and have them grow on you over a period of time. In past seasons, it seems like in some cases this has happened. Ryan and Jaclyn do have some chemistry, which is more than I can say for the other two couples. They seem attracted to each other, and invested in at least trying to make this work. John is also invested, but I'm not sure about Molly yet. She seems like one of those girls that looks good on paper: good job, pretty, tall, blonde, takes care of herself, but in reality, she's missing a key ingredient: a sense of humor!

Jepthe and Shawniece. There are no words. 

[Shelly1234]

I think people are being too hard on Ryan.  Yes, is is obnoxious, but he signed up to be an instant husband and not someone's "rebound after a dead boyfriend".  He is also expected now to be her grief counselor which is unfair.  Imagine being expected to do all that for someone who is essentially a stranger. I'd hate to go on this show and be set up in a scenario like that.

[lazylou]

I agree that Jep is acting very strangely.  Sometimes, though, his body language seems to indicate he likes Shawniece. I think he is very inexperienced with women.  Shawniece with her desperate efforts to get him to show affection also clearly shows a certain inexperience with people.  Seems like a more extreme example of what played out during the Miami season between the social worker and the Air BnB super host.  That season, the woman moved out ... ultimately,  it did not work out, but the couple managed to  play being on the show for all it was worth.

I think Jaclyn should refer to her deceased boyfriend by his name. "Ex" does indicate something other than the reality.  And "late" seems awfully formal.   The experts ought never to have matched her to anyone...whether you like Ryan or not, he has little chance with Jackie because she is still in mourning.  

And why, though Jon is very gracious to get rid of his cat, would the "experts" match a cat owner with someone who has a cat allergy? Again, this has happened previously,  as a woman afraid of dogs was matched to a man who liked his dogs a lot more than he liked her.

[Lily247]

9 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

Lol, yes but I thought the way she paraded around the hotel lobby in that bikini she thought she looked so great in it. I, shallow that I am, noticed her belly was flabby. Okay it's fine to wear on the beach--but not to be walking around INSIDE a hotel like that. I mean she was practically naked. She must have thought she looked great but she had a bloated stomach I don't think she is very pretty. Actually the two of them could pass for brother and sister. They look exactly the same. Shallow Shallow Shallow, yes 2 4's

But they need to set these people up according to attractiveness. Someone like Molly looks great in no matter what clothing she puts on. Men love the skinny skinny look like she has so I think John is smitten with it. To me they are 2 10's. At least both are 9's. 

Shawniece looks beautiful sometimes and like a hot mess at other times. 

To be fair .... I think that Jaclyn has a nice figure, hourglass but athletic and proportionate. She is not rail thin but definitely is toned and I thought she looked cute in her tiny bikini. It could be her posture that made her stomach appear to stick out a little. She does appear to very comfortable and confident with her body which I think is awesome. Kind of like how Molly's slightly stooped over posture does the opposite and makes her look even thinner. I dont think that every man likes the same body type in women as there are so many different kinds I believe that the questionaires must have asked the participants which body type they prefer. I remember Molly was happy because her match had a "jacked" body, and Jon must really be into super thin girls as he couldnt stop saying how hot Molly was. I cant imagine that question not being asked beforehand because it is a basic attraction. 

[MsJamieDornan]

16 hours ago, sarkygal said:

Now Ryan, no editing can convince me he's not an overcompensating windbag. 

I think Ryan was the guy no one liked in high school. He's trying to make up for it now. It's not working.

[NowVoyager]

Hmm... Does the show contribute to the apartment budgets? They were all around $2k. 

Jon is fiiine! 

& he makes me laugh through my tv! Molly, girl, if you don't want him--- can I have him? He gave up his job (which was dumb) & his beloved cat (which had to be hard) for her. She's playing things very cool (something I wish Shawniece could do), but I think she does like him. I think she's just setting a foundation to be wearing the pants in their relationship.

Molly's posture makes my back hurt just looking at her. I find myself stretching & arching my back whenever they show her body from the side.

Shawniece & Jepthe.

Lawdhavemercy.

On what planet do they make an equally yoked couple?! She's extroverted; he's introverted. She budgets; he does not. She's clean; he's messy. She's affectionate; he's reserved. He wanted an Instagram model-looking woman (which I interpret as more artifice); she mostly goes with a clean face & natural hair.

It breaks my heart watching him recoil from the slightest physical gesture from her. He "welcomed" her to his home with dirty bedsheets & dirty clothes strewn about. Gross. I would have refused to sleep there or at least asked for some clean bedsheets to make up the bed. I don't know how she's put up with his bad treatment so far... I would be out!

Free Shawniece! 

[qtpye]

23 minutes ago, NowVoyager said:

Hmm... Does the show contribute to the apartment budgets? They were all around $2k. 

Jon is fiiine! 

& he makes me laugh through my tv! Molly, girl, if you don't want him--- can I have him? He gave up his job (which was dumb) & his beloved cat (which had to be hard) for her. She's playing things very cool (something I wish Shawniece could do), but I think she does like him. I think she's just setting a foundation to be wearing the pants in their relationship.

Molly's posture makes my back hurt just looking at her. I find myself stretching & arching my back whenever they show her body from the side.

Shawniece & Jepthe.

Lawdhavemercy.

On what planet do they make an equally yoked couple?! She's extroverted; he's introverted. She budgets; he does not. She's clean; he's messy. She's affectionate; he's reserved. He wanted an Instagram model-looking woman (which I interpret as more artifice); she mostly goes with a clean face & natural hair.

It breaks my heart watching him recoil from the slightest physical gesture from her. He "welcomed" her to his home with dirty bedsheets & dirty clothes strewn about. Gross. I would have refused to sleep there or at least asked for some clean bedsheets to make up the bed. I don't know how she's put up with his bad treatment so far... I would be out!

Free Shawniece! 

I already see Jon and Shawniece signed up for Married at First Sight, Second Chances, since it seems like both their partners are duds.

[brilliantbreakfast]

1)  If you've never lost someone who was integral to your life and whom you did not expect to pass so soon (i.e. elderly parents and grandparents are different), then I ask you to please not weigh in on how long grief "should" be or how it should manifest or when you get rid of the "stuff" or when someone should start dating.  You don't get it.  You think you do, but you don't.  Empathy is not the same as "getting it."  I know you mean well, but please just stop.  I'm a widow of 4 years duration (27-year marriage) and while I have "moved on", I am not dating and have no desire to do so.  You cannot lose that bond without it impacting you.  This journey is different for everyone; please respect that, whether it is Jaclyn or anyone else.

2)  I was thinking about this show last night (because after the lights go out and you live alone and you have just retired and are still figuring out what you're going to do with the life you'd planned to spend with your husband there's nothing to do but randomly think about stuff).  These are people who have had "no luck" with relationships and dating conventionally.  In the conventional model, you meet someone.  You spend time together.  You get to know the person.  You take the time to see how you click.  If it works over some period of time, you may get married.  If it doesn't, you break up.  These people are circumventing the process by doing meet/marry as the first date/get acquainted.  But what makes these people think that the things about themselves which have made it difficult to connect are going to magically go away just because they've had a white dress and a tux and a catered party?  Jephte probably is diffident with every woman he meets, and he's not so much of a financial prize that women are willing to put up with it.  Shawniece is clingy.  Jaclyn is still grieving and it shows.  Ryan takes his romance queues from old rom-com movies.  Molly is used to being treated like a goddess because she's pretty, thin, blond and has thigh-gap.  Jon?  I don't know what the deal is with Jon.  He seems like an OK guy, but he IS somewhat immature and is probably a lunkhead in the romance department.  Women probably think he's looking for a fun-buddy.  Those things which have gotten in the way of connecting successfully through dating don't change just because they are now "married."

[humbleopinion]

Unfortunately, the rom-coms that Ryan watched and learned his romantic moves and lovey dovey speechifying starred Adam Sandler or Rob Schneider.

[NowVoyager]

On 2/8/2018 at 9:40 AM, humbleopinion said:

The season's tease clips has  Shawniece exclaiming to her friends and family that she and Jephte did have sex...

Hopefully that means full contact sex and not some self love of herself in one room and his self love of himself next door simultaneously, involving an intricate coordinated effort and shouting directions...

 Long story short... she listened to him and waited for his baby steps to toddle over and finally come knocking on her bedroom door...thanks, producers/editors for killing the suspense

PLEASE GOD, NO! If there were any justice in the world, Shawniece would have rejected him for a change. 

[Gobears]

2 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Unfortunately, the rom-coms that Ryan watched and learned his romantic moves and lovey dovey speechifying starred Adam Sandler or Rob Schneider.

Wow, you're so right about this! Ryan's honeymoon toast to Jaclyn was very reminiscent of Adam Sandler's declaration of love to Winona Ryder in "Mr. Deeds": 

"Hard to breathe / Feels like floating / So full of love my heart's exploding. / Mouth is dry / Hands are shaking / My heart is yours for the taking. / Acting weird / Not myself / Dancing around like the Keebler elf. / Finally time / for this poor schlubb / To know how it feels to fall in lub."

[humbleopinion]

Shawniece will exact her sweet revenge on Jephte on the Decision Show....rejection...Feel the burn, Jephte?

Watch Pastor Cal's jaw drop to the floor....

[Empress1]

14 hours ago, Lily247 said:

To be fair .... I think that Jaclyn has a nice figure, hourglass but athletic and proportionate. She is not rail thin but definitely is toned and I thought she looked cute in her tiny bikini. It could be her posture that made her stomach appear to stick out a little. She does appear to very comfortable and confident with her body which I think is awesome. Kind of like how Molly's slightly stooped over posture does the opposite and makes her look even thinner. I dont think that every man likes the same body type in women as there are so many different kinds I believe that the questionaires must have asked the participants which body type they prefer. I remember Molly was happy because her match had a "jacked" body, and Jon must really be into super thin girls as he couldnt stop saying how hot Molly was. I cant imagine that question not being asked beforehand because it is a basic attraction. 

I think her bikini bottom was just too small.

[ChristmasJones]

I don't trust the editing on this show at all....

But... a comment by Shawniece made me wonder about her motivation - she said she needed to save up $10,000 to open her own salon.  Finishing the show would definitely help her toward that goal.

[Gem 10]

On February 8, 2018 at 11:33 PM, LotusEsq said:

I can’t believe after all that showboating Ryan has been doing about money - bragging about spending the most on the ring, about how many jobs he has, investments, ragging on Jon for being unemployed...he has 2 roommates and makes $60-70k??? I’m embarassed for him. I was expecting double that based on how he has been talking!

Bullshit artist.  It's only a matter of time that Jacklyn will tire of him, unless she's desperate.

[Gem 10]

Actually, Jaclyn was probably in so much pain after losing Nick that she gave this show a whirl figuring if it didn't work out, there's always divorce.  Just a thought.  Who knows how people think.

[Lily247]

5 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

I don't trust the editing on this show at all....

But... a comment by Shawniece made me wonder about her motivation - she said she needed to save up $10,000 to open her own salon.  Finishing the show would definitely help her toward that goal.

Yes, there is usually at least 1 participant trying to either promote something or gain something financially in addition to "finding love"... Jamie Otis ... the most obvious was Nick from Miami ... and also Lilly from Miami constantly promoting her real estate ... She needs $10,000 to open her own salon ? Like, $10,000 more in addition to her current savings, or just that amount alone ? I'm not sure what kind of salon could be opened for only 10 grand. I would have guessed more around 50 grand at least, unless it will be in her home or something like that. Maybe if she has a few partners with her. I had thoght the show stated that she already had her own salon, or her own wig line or something of the sort, its a little confusing, maybe right now she is just a hair stylist with serious goals. 

[ChristmasJones]

Yes I was surprised too. She told Jepthe that she wanted to make sure she could save money in addition to pay rent and he asked her how much she needed for her salon and I expected to hear $100K or something like that, and instead she said $10K. 

[gonecrackers]

17 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

I had thoght the show stated that she already had her own salon, or her own wig line or something of the sort, its a little confusing, maybe right now she is just a hair stylist with serious goals. 

Shawniece is a cosmetologist with her own wig line & big dreams...

of owning her own salon...

& of her new Strange(r) husband actually liking her.

Edited February 11, 2018 by gonecrackers