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I feel bad for Amber. The girl was in so much pain and its deeper than some jerk may have been cheating on her. It sucks to see her experience it. she's only 27 and yes that's not 17 or 22 but its still young. A lot us don't have it figured out till 35 or later that I've seen. She needs therapy. One thing I didn't like is her friend who obviously cares for her waited to tell her on camera. I'm sure he could've told her off its not like they have cameras 24/7. And I wonder why no romance between those two, he obviously really cares about her. I think something is there. This brings me to Keith and Iris. I am honestly confused with them. Why do they like each other in. a romantic way? We haven't seen them do anything other than that "dance" class and the gift exchange. I think they went to dinner twice including this time. Not that we've should've been privy to the ongoings with his grandma's passing. I wonder how did they get close from that? Thats a huge life event to go through. And I'm sure he is still dealing with. Its just like they are really good buddies. Not even good friends but buddies who you hang out with off and on through the yrs. "Oh yeah that guy...Oh he's a good guy ...Hey how you been" type friend. I think this episode was the first time outside of wedding day I saw them kiss. I don't recall any affection. No handholding, hands on lap, cuddling, nothing. Its like if they do stay together I expect them to high five each other on decision day. I will say Iris is really pretty. I wonder if she's done any modeling she has the angles for it. Jamie is just a pig. I just do not like this guy. Was is it needed to tell her bff what text messages she send him? His constant gripe about sex is such a turn off. It would be to any woman I would think even if you looked like Jason Momoa (ok maybe him, lol). Anyhow, they're obviously going to stay together for some reason Beth likes the bore. However, in their defense there is so much we don't see. On unfiltered Amber excited talked about all the things Jamie does for Beth, that sounded sweet. Like where is this guy? Also showed me how phony these get togethers are cause they all live next to each other. That means they have these convos all the time and pretty much know how the others are doing. The women seem to be friends esp. with Amber. Lastly Greg and Deonna...what is there to say but they're fine. Their issues is understandable but they can make it through them. Only issue I had watching them is the terrible lighting for them. I know its been mentioned but watching Deonna on unfiltered the girl was 10 shades darker. The lighting is horrible for black people. They just can't seem to get it right, its astounding how bad it is.

So sad. I knew something was up with the mother. They just aired the episodes yesterday and was hoping to see an update on them. There really should be a website that does updates on his guest. But this is so sad and sadly expected. The issue with Dr. Phil from the few updates I've been able to get is it seem not all his guest (majority) get the intensive help he says he gives. I know he helps some people and some people are just adverse to help. So sad for those kids whom are now young adults I assume . Thanks for the update.

I have to get Greg and Deona out the way... LOVE THEM!! And I clearly saw off the bat that Greg was joking so again I think it was a bit reaching in the edit. I loved the birthday surprise cause it truly seemed as if it was his idea. So many times on this show I never get the feeling of people truly falling in love or that they're even in a new relationship. Where's the fun? The giddiness of being in this new relationship? The surprises and cute things you do esp. in the beginning. This was it. Very thoughtful and super sweet. I've said my feelings on Deonna getting lucky with Greg and how he's perfect for her but the question remains for me is she perfect for him? I think the other issue with the show is they tend to focus on what one person issue is and that's the theme throughout the series. Iris and Keith- He looks just like his mom. She is beautiful. It just isn''t it with Iris. Her secret at first infuriated me and it still does but I get she didn't want. a secret exposed to the world but she could've thought of something better than that. I feel Keith frustration and how awkward it must be for him. No one wants to have sex with a child and she behaves like one in these situations. I had hoped it was just her nervousness with imitacy in front of the cameras but going by Keith he's seeing her be this way off camera. I think he respects her and likes but is turned off by her. I will say according to Iris on unfiltered he doesn't tell her a lot of these things as he tells the experts and that's on him. I know its awkward and given her behavior when sexual things are mentioned I can see him being nervous or turned off to even make out with her. Matt and Amber- In the words of Birdman "Are we done? Or Are we finished?". See what gets me is even though its messed up I wish these couples as a whole were more real. Matt on unfiltered did not seem like this space cadet. He did not seem like he couldn't put together a few sentences. He was VERY clear he does not like Amber personality . That would be interesting to see play out. Its a real thing and often not talked about on this show. He just doesn't like her. He can have sex with her but after getting to know her he doesn't like her. He should be straight up with her and is an jerk for not being up front and staying at this point. Wrong as he was on unfiltered I wish we saw more of that Matt. Theres no hope for Amber if she doesn't see this is over. He doesn't want to sleep with her, kiss or even cuddle her. My heart goes out to her it does but girl read the 10 ft sign right in front you. Jamie and Elizabeth- I CAN NOT STAND HIM! I think he is the worst. Off the bat yes Liz is immature. Yes, she throws tantrums but you know what he feeds off the bs. When watching that video of the fight he started to laugh/smile at seeing it (it was awkward) and then immediately reprimand her for doing the same thing. "Oh you think that's funny?" And like a child she had to answer him. He wants her to be his masturbating tool but has such little respect for her. He demeans her, verbally abusive and gaslight the hell out of her. He is a boring, ill tempered jackass. The way he went off on her in the car was just so uncalled for. But guess what these fools are gonna stay together I just know it. They will be that couple unless Beth dad can talk some sense into her. Being a daddy's girl even at my big age my dad would break a dude kneecaps to start if he saw me treated this was. Her family can not be happy and that's going to make it awkward for them to continue. The only positive I give them them is they are real on the show. This is who they are as a couple. No secrets or agreements what to show on or off the camera. I love that this is them both warts and all.

This is exactly how I believe the Deonna situation went if you put the pieces together. I so relate to her in the way of I had a long term relationship in my teens to early 20's and it went bad. Like really bad for both of us and it shut me down for YEARS from relationships. We're actually great friends now as I am with all my exes but it did take a toll on me. So I had always related to her story. Then when she talked about "situationships" she reminded me so much of friends who went through that period of leading with sex. A perfect example of in the real world Matt and Amber would have a "situationship". Heres a woman who slept with the guy way too fast and got emotionally attached. She saw babies, and 50 yr anniversaries before he got out the shower after they first had sex. She has the benefit of being married to him as an excuse but this happens so much. Women "give it up" per say and don't know the guy and get emotionally attached through sex and think sex is going to make the guy fall in love with them. They give them all kinds of leeway, become desperate and just have general heartbreak. I have talked so many gfs off the ledge in our 20s. They weren't real relationships with a give and take. They didn't meet the parents and were generally a booty call to be blunt. Side piece , as you will in some cases. Not knowingly but being strung along and I think that's what Deanna went through in some sense. She's doing the best she knows how in order to let Greg in as she obviously in really into him. I would say she is in love with him. The show is doing all it can to mind drama from them similar to Bobby and Danielle. The experts did right by Deanna as they gave her Greg whom with his mother story can completely relate to what she's been through in some sense.

I don't think Keith doesn't respect her for it but feels pressured by it. It is a barrier for him. She mentioned he doesn't tell her how sexy she is or seems to be turned on by her. I think he doesn't know how to handle it. Would she be okay with him coming on to her in a sexual way? Does she know how to respond? From the show she is freaked out by him using condoms and even talking about sex. It has to be a turn off. That has nothing to do with being a virgin. I know a few women whom waited till their mid 20's to have sex and were def. "sexual" and could discuss sex. I could see if she was 20 or even 23 but 27/28 her reactions to things is shocking. Its not as if she grew up on an Amish compound and has just been released. I also remember when Keith was on unfiltered and Jamie was shocked when he said he didn't want to have sex with Iris at that point in their marriage. I think for him its a huge deal to be her first esp. if this marriage doesn't work out. I really think he doesn't want that responsibility in which she has regrets that she didn't wait.

Okay the good: Deonna and Greg are simply adorable. They're falling for each other and its cute to see. And Deonna as a whole is just very modest so yes I do believe her pajamas were for the camera. the bowling date was super cute. Iris mom is everything! I love her. She's so warm and wise. Very sweet woman who has such a genuine spirit to her. She's a unicorn on a show like this. I just love her and her advice was great. I love how she saw it from Keith's prospective. She really could replace any of these damn experts on the show. While Iris irks me a lot, I will say her gift to Keith and his reaction was adorable. He was really taken aback. And yes it is obvious she is more into him than he is into her. I think her maturity level is questionable to him and a turnoff. However, I do think he likes her well enough and was so touched by her gift. I also like their last scene at the ring shop. Amber and Matt just make me cringe. It just feels put on. I don't know why as nothing was wrong but maybe its cause I can feel her neediness and its hard to watch. Lastly Jamie is verbally abusive towards Elizabeth. Yes, she self centered. Yes, she is spoiled and thinks being extra is how she is supposed to be. I just don't think her personality she puts on is her true self. She believes she is supposed to be over the top and its cute. Its like a kid who knows they're supposed to be cutesy to get extra attention. The whole persona just fells slightly inauthentic. And this is my take on both of them: They both have low self esteem. He has anger issues because he doesn't know how to express himself without belittling her. He didn't like how she brought up his parents and instead of addressing iit like a mature adult he really just berates and belittles her. The same thing here. She doesn't really know how to handle conflicts so wants to be left alone and he again gets wound up and verbally abuses her. Its bs and extremely toxic.

Matt and Amber: He's a jerk. Seriously no need for him to not call and let her know his whereabouts. Even if it slipped his mind he should have the decency to answer her calls. At one point she knew he was out with a friend but obviously was gone too long without contact of some sort. I am not clingy (imo that is) but I need to know where my people are. If you're going to the mall and I don't hear from you and its 11pm I worry. Its not about being nosy or being in your business but more so a safety concern. He was just blatantly disrespectful. Greg and Deonna; I like him. I get her. I do. She seems to have led with her body in her younger yrs and regrets it. Probably had a lot of insecurities and it has affected her in knowing what a healthy relationship is and has scared her off. I wonder what made her do the show. I like him and his friends. They all seem to gel well. She is a little much with her rules at times but its getting better. I have hope because I think Greg is a great catch and I think Deonna is seeing that. Keith and Iris: Just because you're a virgin doesn't mean you have the emotional intelligence of a 12 yr old. Its really annoying with Iris and Keith is damn near saint like with her ways. She was so rude. Who the hell puts a drink limit on the non-alcoholic drinks? I can see if it was Tequila or Hennesy. Ridiculous. I get the rummaging part but there was a more diplomatic way to handle this and she per usual choose the the later. I just don't know how Keith handles it I really don't. She seems like a nice woman but her maturity level needs raising. Jamie and Elizabeth - Brat. That's what she is a brat. However, I thought the things he was saying to her was so disrepectful and not needed if he had an issue with her bringing up his parents he should've found a more tactful way to do so. It was so dirty. The fighting between them is way too dirty so early. Elizabeth is a brat and I can be one too being a Daddy's girl. But she jumped in way to soon with Jamie without getting to know him and he with her. Given their personalities the lust route first was a bad move imo. But damn did I I winces when she insulted their sex life, like damn that had to sting.

Yeah I would be surprised how if they are together after that exchange publicly. Who knows if they are together at decision day but I highly doubt they are together now. Good for Jacklyn. Yes, the editing plays a part in this show huge. I think they did Jephte kind of bad in the beginning. Not that he wasn't cold but there was obviously something there more then showed to lead to the "transformation" we saw. However, Ryan is just a jerk. I felt that when he was with her when she was unloading the boxes at her home. It was all show. And ever since its just gone downhill. Jacklyn deserves better and from these tweets it seems like she figured that out. It would be nice if she decided that on decision day.

Gosh I feel like an Arie apologist here but I guess what I saw wasn't so bad. But I have to comment on him not leaving. Has any been in a real break up? Just me. I mean I have had break ups last HOURS,lol. Seriously like crying, running away, just leave me alone said 1000 times and the guy stays around. So I didn't find it odd. I've been the one to break off things and honestly you feel such guilt and you want to fix it. It a weird feeling and you feel bad for hurting that person and somehow its natural to want to make sure they're okay. Its not logical its emotional. So I totally got that and was shocked people were hard on him about it. I mean its a "reality show" and people want to see it all and then complain when they do. I'm confused. I do agree with those who said Lauren took to it as a normal ATFR. I think that's just her being a little young and naive or maybe just in love. Sometimes I know I've been in love and have completely not been able to see the forest from the trees. I also don't know how else was she supposed to respond about Becca? Becca said during the last chance dates she wasn't close to Lauren as they are just so different. So I got Lauren hesitation on when asked if they were friends. Sorry for the multiple post just keep readings others and then wanting to respond.

But where is the lie? lol Seriously that's what it was. I'm really interested in what people think he should say other then what it was for him. As much as things are edited to create a story there was no denying he was in love with Lauren but unsure if she was all in cause he had to keep reassuring her while Lauren was making a scrapbook which ended with a spot for their future child,lol. He's said I was wrong. Its all on me. I chose wrong. I made a mistake. Becca is an amazing person. She would make a great wife. Seriously what is he supposed to say? As he also said there is not good answer to give. He can only give his truth.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!! I was beginning to think I was the only one. I was like well maybe because I'm Arie's age and have watched this show since the beginning. I really don't get the outrage. I guess when less crap was thrown in our faces on social media I would get it a bit but these days its like... "Crap theres another threat to North Korea". I also don't get what people wanted Arie to do? Seriously, I wasn't even watching the show until Hometowns when I binged the season on Hulu and I was struck by his fascination with Lauren. Like why the hell did he like her? I didn't get it but you could always tell he was just so in awe of her. When you watch the last chance dates he just looks at her different. He speaks to her different. When he's telling her he loves her it just different and more intimate. I think he felt he was supposed to choose Becca. His family really liked Lauren but thought she was too similar to his type and maybe needed someone with a stronger personality which was Becca(If you watched Jason season it was very similar. Melissa got along so much with Jason son. and teh family loved her while Molly was struggling and Jason was so defensive of her) . You could tell even then he was a bit disappointed by that. I do think that swayed him, Here was a women who he really "loved" in this atmosphere who was different then his usual type, who was confident, outgoing, forward etc... and was 100% in with him. His family said her and the show pressures you to make the decision. Also people dragging him for his answers...What should he say? He said and Becca agreed that they talked about his feelings for Lauren. They were still strong and he was having a hard time. He told her he was having a conversation with her. Bottom line is he chose wrong, It sucks but what else can he say? Should he have done it in private? Probably but I wonder if he could. Then some say he shouldn't propose...Well look at Juan Pablo and Brad Womack. They were shredded for that. People were in an outrage because of it. So I get the producers pressure the Bachelor to not only do so but probably use those examples as to why. It was not the same ring. I wonder if it was even a Neil Lane ring cause it wasn't advertised so I wonder if he bought it himself. I don't know his finical s but I do know when he was on Emily season it was often stated all of Emily suitors were well off. Or at least came from wealthy families. Anyone remember Jef Holmes family was loaded. Their ranch was like the size of Rhode Island. So its possible he bought himself or they would advertise. And I thought Beka M was adorable before but the last two shows annoyed the hell out of me and showed her to be quite immature. Like WTH? I was just not here for her bs. She's pouting and rude and saying things on social media that she dodge a bullet. Honey he was never going to choose you. Seriously get over yourself. All those girls need to. I give Kendall props for being mature about it all. I just wish them well and really don't get the outrage. My goodness Chris Harrison has gotten death threats? Are you crazy? That's insane. What did he do? At the end its a guy who has to do whats best for him. And as stated its not like he broke up with Becca last night and has spend as much time with Lauren now that he did with Becca at this point. Also she's not so heartbroken that she didn't go into last night not knowing she signed up for the Bachelorette so honestly I don't feel too bad for her. Melissa exploited her opportunities with other shows and said NO to the being apart of the franchise. Lastly I get getting upset and invested into shows I do. Hell I was on the hell has no fury like a woman when Brad dumped both girls or with Juan Pablo and honestly wasn't so into any of the finale women that I can remember. Heck I was so upset with Kaitlyn when I found out she slept with Nick when there were 6 or guys left. I thought it was so tasteless and tacky. I shouldn't have judge so harshly in hindsight so I get it. However at the end of the day with how this show goes if the goal is to have a fairytale happy ending then maybe we got one with him and Lauren so I really do wish them the best and being the Leo I am I root for the underdogs and the attacked I guess and hope they prove their haters wrong. Though with some haters the can get married have 10 kids break up in 20 yrs and people would still be like "I knew they would never make it" lol. I like seeing people be happy, they seem happy and hopefully Becca finds her one on her season. All good endings.

There is no cash prize per say but the apartments, wedding, dinners, vacations is all paid for. They may get a stipend but that hasn't been confirmed. But the amount thrown around has been 100 grand and that has been debunked or rather seems to come from very unreliable sources. Even the situation with the rings where Ryan paid 1000 or so for the ring was on top of the budget he got for the ring. I've said before unless its something like for love or money or is said I don't think these shows give money. If the bachelor doesn't even pay for the girls/guys clothes for the rose ceremony until I think its the final 4 then no this show is not giving away 100k.

I do want to add that I don't the issue is Molly doesn't want to have sex with Jon. I have no issue with that at all and don't think its Jon main complaint. I think he has been super patient but is frustrated by the lack of intimacy. She doesn't really want to cuddle, kiss, or hold hands. She refers to stuff as too relationship-y. That's as annoying or more so then when Jep kept saying Shawniece was a stranger. Its not that she wasn't a stranger cause "duh"lol, more so why did you sign up for the show if you're not willing to open yourself up. She says she usually is friends with guys first and for a long time which is fine in normal life but I doubt she isn't cuddle up or kissing a guy she's been dating for 2 months which is the equivalent to how long they been together when you look at time spent together. Its seems like she's not trying and wasn't open to what the premise of the show was so one asks "why sign up?". I do find it funny how Jon was like we are the same person and I just don't see it. Like at all. Maybe we need to see more of the funny, outgoing Molly if one exist. Cause I just don't see why Jon is attracted to her at all. Looks fade and that initial OMG so HOT! wears away once you get know someone and I don't get in her personality why he likes her. But then for me if it was Roman Reigns or Jason Moma I probably would put up with it for a little bit longer too, lol Though those guys are way out my league (and married :( ) but I would think a Jon a good looking guy, smart, funny and outgoing would have dated women at least as pretty. Confuses me. Wish we got more of his perspective on his attraction to her or is it just "I signed up for this show, she's my wife and I'm all in regardless" And I can respect that.

I've seen someone say that number before but has it been confirmed? I really don't that's true. Just based on tweets from past hgs and these shows never off a prize at the end other then the ring/wedding etc... When has production so blatantly got involved with the show. First the mandatory group dates/sessions. Now the obvious fantasy spiel. It was so awkward. I cringed so bad at Jac and Ryan and Jon and Molly. But Jac and Ryan was just too much and so not sexy at all, just so bad. Shawniece and Jep were adorable. All through out it was so cute from the silly firewoman outfit with the pole dancing (what happened to being a teacher Jep? lol) to the sweet date at the rink. Really cute. Saying that I have to say I am a bit peeved about Shawniece and Jephete. They are turning out to be EXACTLY how I said they would be during the matchmaking episode. I was really high on them and then we got weeks of fickery. I would be throwing major shade at tptb if I have been Jephete. Not saying he didn't hurt Shawniece but he obviously wasn't AS cold as it looked. Or at the least they should have showed the turn around. On Unfiltered there was a bonus scene where he told her he talked to a friend who knocked some sense into him. The mislead to the turn around has just been such a 180 is just jarring. I know there will be bumps in the road but jeez they really played him in the beginning. The swerve is Molly and Jon who seem like a mess. I'm totally team Jon on this. She has issues that need to be dealt with and the experts suck. I really feel bad for Jon. He's doing everything he can and even his outburst I was here for it. She can have a threesome with a random dude but her husband she can't cuddle with and do relationship-y things. I just don't get how they grow in 3 weeks past this. I really thought from unfiltered I was getting vibes they stay together but I just don't see how they get over this. Jon can do better. But then I thought J&S were doomed so who knows... Jac and Ryan make me squeamish. Like Ryan is just too much . Its so awkward , I just don't feel any genuineness on his part or maybe he's just awkward on TV. I was charmed at first but it quickly went to douche bro,,,try hard. Like I can't with him and I just don't get why Jac likes him. I admire his work effort (honestly though you would think he made more more living in Boston with all those jobs) but he just not all the way there and again I feel Jac deserves better. Its just so blah and not in a good way. Anthony and Ashley were blah to me but a lot things I didn't like about her felt produced. Ryan has not softness about him...I don't know I just don't get why Jac likes him.

How stupid. Seriously his views on women in those tweets are horrible. But for his own career why did he think it was smart to post that about kids? Why did MAFS think oh this guy is ready for marriage? It was only a yr after some of those that he started the process for the show. Then as a 25 yr old who does social media why would you keep those up and not look through them and delete them? Just sloppiness all around.