S09.E04: Meri's Crazy Idea

[Gothish520]

4 hours ago, Emma C said:

Does this remind anyone else of Scientology?

It sounds equally as wackadoo to me. Sorry if I've insulted anyone's beliefs!

4 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Well what if you could be a Brown style Mormon and pick and choose what tenets you want to follow...a little traditional Mormonism, a little AUB and as Kody did, throw in a little Judaism as well.

 

To be fair, you can find plenty of members of other religions who pick and choose as well - like, most people I've ever met!

Edited February 1, 2018 by Gothish520

[Gothish520]

On 1/31/2018 at 3:26 PM, trimthatfat said:

I hope they do a better job of maintaining their home in the future because it just looked like a place where junk goes to die. And I gagged at Mykelti's dirty feet propped up on the recliner. I think their floors needs a nice, deep clean.

 

23 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Janelle's were just as bad the week before, we caught a glimpse of hers when she was sitting on the couch.  Either their floors are filthy, they don't bathe very often or they are outside walking in mud.

I'm gonna be real here - my kitchen floor is not filthy by any stretch, but I doubt it would pass the white socks/barefoot test! And I only have three adults living here - I can't imagine how hard it must be to keep a floor clean with kids running around. Sorry, I'm not wet-mopping every damn day. 

[Gothish520]

12 minutes ago, lma said:

If I’m on TV, I’m gonna try a little harder. If I know the bottoms of my feet will be shown, I’m going to make sure my floor is clean or I’m keeping my shoes on. Also, this is ever time we see her feet. Not a one off.

Haha, good point and I definitely agree, no one's seeing the bottoms of my feet if they're not clean!

[ghoulina]

54 minutes ago, Gothish520 said:

 

I'm gonna be real here - my kitchen floor is not filthy by any stretch, but I doubt it would pass the white socks/barefoot test! And I only have three adults living here - I can't imagine how hard it must be to keep a floor clean with kids running around. Sorry, I'm not wet-mopping every damn day. 

I agree. I sweep daily, but generally mop once a week. More if there's an incident. We're typically a no-shoe house, but my husband isn't the best about adhering. If you looked at my floors, they look fine. Not dirty at all. But if I walk around barefoot all day? My feet look gross. It's a LOT easier to get "dirty" feet than one thinks. But I am someone who is not really phased by dirt, from a germ standpoint. 

Of course, I'd probably try harder if I was going to be on TV. 

[ginger90]

I wonder if “idea” was added to the episode title last minute.

[Jeanne222]

I can hardly wait to hear Christine sing on Sunday!  I'm just all aflutter!  Dying to pan the guests for their reaction!

[LilWharveyGal]

Sorry, @Jeanne222, thanks to football we all have to live in suspense until the 11th.  I'm expecting a reaction similar to the audience watching Springtime for Hitler.

[SongbirdHollow]

3 hours ago, suomi said:

Although celestial names are promoted as being personal and significant the same two names are used in predetermined rotations: three days, this week, this month, etc. At one point - for over 30 years - Abraham and Sarah were the only celestial names used. If your actual name is the same as that day's celestial name then Adam or Eve is used instead. 

Wait, what? I'm not understanding this at all. The church predetermines the names?

[suomi]

55 minutes ago, SongbirdHollow said:

Wait, what? I'm not understanding this at all. The church predetermines the names?

All ordinances (endowment, sealing, baptism of the dead, conferring priesthood on the dead, etc) are performed by temple workers who follow guidelines and paperwork generated by the main office. There are over 150 mainstream temples and a handful of FLDS temples. The AUB has one temple (in Mexico) and one "endowment house" where rituals are performed. The deal with the names coming from the main office is the same everywhere. 

[answerphone]

Wouldn't you think a "deeply religious family" would be mortified at Mykelti's choice of having the pawn shop friend officiate at their wedding?

It makes no sense. But, that's par for the course, I suppose.

[Gothish520]

5 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I can hardly wait to hear Christine sing on Sunday!  I'm just all aflutter!  Dying to pan the guests for their reaction!

I feel like we are being set up and she's going to nail it.

[laurakaye]

16 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I can hardly wait to hear Christine sing on Sunday!  I'm just all aflutter!  Dying to pan the guests for their reaction!

Especially if she goes for broke and decides to try for that last high note.

[Kyanight]

5 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Especially if she goes for broke and decides to try for that last high note.

The song was written in 1910 and a four man quartet made it a huge hit.  I personally do not believe it was EVER meant to be sung in that high of a range that Christine insists upon.

[Pachengala]

10 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

I feel like we are being set up and she's going to nail it.

My threshold for proxy-embarrassment is super low, so I hope you’re right. 

[Sandy W]

34 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

The song was written in 1910 and a four man quartet made it a huge hit.  I personally do not believe it was EVER meant to be sung in that high of a range that Christine insists upon.

The damn song has become an ear worm for me since Christine started rehearsals

It seems to me that song was originally sung in a lilting, rhythmic cadence.  The fact that Christine is belting it out like an operatic aria tells me that she is more interested in her performance than conveying a sentiment to T&M.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Sandy W

[TurtlePower]

36 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

The damn song has become an ear worm for me since Christine started rehearsals

It seems to me that song was originally sung in a lilting, rhythmic cadence.  The fact that Christine is belting it out like an operatic aria tells me that she is more interested in her performance than conveying a sentiment to T&M.

I get that music is open to interpretation. This is why we have remixes and variations. But this song, I also believe, was never meant for an operatic soprano--even if a singer has an amazing voice, which Christine does not. Still, the piece could be sung in a softer, more whispery voice, which Christine DOES have. 

[trimthatfat]

18 hours ago, lma said:

If I’m on TV, I’m gonna try a little harder. If I know the bottoms of my feet will be shown, I’m going to make sure my floor is clean or I’m keeping my shoes on. Also, this is ever time we see her feet. Not a one off.

Exactly. At the very least, I certainly wouldn't prop up my feet on camera if I knew there was a chance they were caked in dirt. Ugh. 

I have been humming Let Me Call Youuuu SweetHEARTTT all week. God help me.

[Kyanight]

19 minutes ago, trimthatfat said:

Exactly. At the very least, I certainly wouldn't prop up my feet on camera if I knew there was a chance they were caked in dirt. Ugh. 

I have been humming Let Me Call Youuuu SweetHEARTTT all week. God help me.

HA HA HA HA!  That song was in my head this morning.

[mamey2422]

On 1/31/2018 at 8:48 AM, Kohola3 said:

Because there are absolutely no story lines for this train wreck so they have to do something to stay on the air.  They are the most boring bunch of people on earth so painting cans is deigned to be a highlight.

The wives talked about celebrating all the holidays and birthdays in one of the recent couch sessions and the reason they gave seemed legitimate: with so many people in the family, specials occasions are a good way to get everyone together and, in the case of birthdays, celebrate the individual who is otherwise easily lost in the crowd.  I thought it was sweet. 

On 1/31/2018 at 8:32 PM, SkippyBeef said:

A lot of MLM sellers like to PRETEND to live comfortably. Most of them really don’t. They make it sound better than it really is so you’ll become a part of their downline. 

This is so very true. I went down a major LuLaRoe black hole when someone here posted information on it after Meri joined. The company is struggling, has terrible business practices, and independent retailers are abandoning ship. Generally, the only people who do well in MLMs are the ones who join early. Meri hopped on the bandwagon very late and I would be shocked if her business is profitable based on what I've read. 

In MLMs, you don't actually make money by selling their product. If you did just that you at best would break even or maybe make some spending cash (not a livable salary). The only way to make money is to have people in your downline, as @SkippyBeef mentioned. You make a percentage of what your downline sells and MLMs make a lot of money on new sellers (The entry package is $4-$6K). In fact, up until recently, LLR retailers made money off of what their downline ORDERED (to build their inventory) rather than SOLD which led many to bully their downline to order, order, order even if they didn't have the money or need. So the emphasis across the board is in recruiting rather than selling. 

Over saturation is another major issue with LLR. Meri has posted on Instagram about traveling for LLR shows and the reason for that is because the market is over saturated with retailers, especially in UT/NV as LLR was started by a Mormon family in UT so that was ground zero. Retailers are having to travel to find untapped markets.

None of the Brown's have show very much business sense so I can't imagine Meri being successful. 

On 1/31/2018 at 9:27 PM, MonicaM said:

Just did a search on this.  According to Popculture.com, TLC "is said to be cancelling" the series.  It refers to "cancellation allegations", and also makes a reference to "if the show is coming to it's end".  No other sources came up with this information when I typed "sister wives cancellation" into the search engine. 

They may indeed be facing cancellation, this is not an official announcement.  I'll believe it when TLC makes an official announcement.  Ironically, I think we'd all continue to watch if we could have a look at how the Brown's fare without the reality television money.  

I was thinking while watching the last episode that this series could potentially have a long life given all the kids, and the potential to follow all their journeys. But I guess it would be repetitive after while thought it's nice to see more of the younger kids. 

[Kyanight]

23 minutes ago, mamey2422 said:

I was thinking while watching the last episode that this series could potentially have a long life given all the kids, and the potential to follow all their journeys. But I guess it would be repetitive after while thought it's nice to see more of the younger kids. 

When I read this a lightbulb went off over my head - THE TRUMAN SHOW!!!!!!!!!!    ha ha ha ha ha.  But seriously.

[Kohola3]

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 I'll believe it when TLC makes an official announcement. 

Or Kadoofus climbs to the top of a tower and threatens to throw himself off.

45 minutes ago, mamey2422 said:

But I guess it would be repetitive...

Gee, ya think?  Kid graduates from high school (party), kid goes to college (quilt presentation), kid drops out of college to get married (wedding), kid has baby (birth scene).  Lather, rinse, repeat times how many are left.  Who the hell cares?

[neh]

Bless Logan.  Remember his reaction to Robyn's picture of Kody with her children as babies?  Priceless!

[LilSebastian]

When I first heard Kodee say "trite", I heard it as "tripe", which is the lining of the cow's stomach and used in the making of a popular Mexican soup called menudo.  I think that would be a more appropriate description for the wedding.

[ghoulina]

16 hours ago, answerphone said:

Wouldn't you think a "deeply religious family" would be mortified at Mykelti's choice of having the pawn shop friend officiate at their wedding?

It makes no sense. But, that's par for the course, I suppose.

Well, but isn't the pawn shop guy a member of the Mormon church up there? I got the impression that's kind of how he knew Tony. 

[Natalie68]

5 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Especially if she goes for broke and decides to try for that last high note.

Imma gonna have to clear the room of my cats during the show.  I love them too much to have them burst an eardrum.  

[Natalie68]

2 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

Or Kadoofus climbs to the top of a tower and threatens to throw himself off.

Gee, ya think?  Kid graduates from high school (party), kid goes to college (quilt presentation), kid drops out of college to get married (wedding), kid has baby (birth scene).  Lather, rinse, repeat times how many are left.  Who the hell cares?

To be fair if any of the other kids marry someone like FT and have a seriously stupid wedding like OFFT and FT it would provide excessive snark.  But I don't want to be talking about the Browns still when Ariella is ready to get hitched.  

[xwordfanatik]

29 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Imma gonna have to clear the room of my cats during the show.  I love them too much to have them burst an eardrum.  

And, to think, some people worried about their dogs' ears when Mariah Carey hit her high notes!  

All the same, I'll make sure my kitty isn't listening to Christine, either.  I just hope for her sake, no one says "you sucked" to her, on camera.  But she kind of does.  As the least favorite wife for years & years, she has my sympathy.  That's another reason I don't get Aspyn marrying a guy from a polygamous background.  Huge red flag there. Didn't Aspyn see the way her mother fell apart with Robyn's addition?  And Grandma Annie leaving the poly life?  Speaking of which, what, if anything, is Annie doing at Lizzie's B & B?

[Meowwww]

2 hours ago, LilSebastian said:

When I first heard Kodee say "trite", I heard it as "tripe", which is the lining of the cow's stomach and used in the making of a popular Mexican soup called menudo.  I think that would be a more appropriate description for the wedding.

Well that’s Mexican, right? ?

[shoovenbooty]

If I may be trite for a moment (snort), throughout the series I have always thought Aspyn had wide-set eyes. But this episode it was extremely noticeable to me that one eye turns outward. Kind of like being opposite of cross-eyed. It probably can be fixed with surgery. I wonder if they've ever thought about fixing it? My niece had a similar issue and it was fixed with surgery and glasses. Or maybe it doesn't bother Aspyn?

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Well, but isn't the pawn shop guy a member of the Mormon church up there? I got the impression that's kind of how he knew Tony. 

He is a Mormon . . . and I believe that Mykelti worked for him at the pawn shop.

It's not illegal to own a pawn shop or to use one.  He probably has lots of Mormon customers, given that the shop is in St. George.

[Kohola3]

1 hour ago, shoovenbooty said:

It probably can be fixed with surgery. I wonder if they've ever thought about fixing it?

How would they pay for it?  We know they don't have medical insurance.  The hospital came after Robun for treating Day'un.

[winsomeone]

I noticed that too..she is either wall eyed, or has a lazy eye?

[Juliegirlj]

Awkward cringeworthy moment when Meri was practically begging Kody to go see the B & B. She claims to want his support but really just wants him to help finance her ill conceived plan. 

Do Meri and Kody have any interest in mending their relationship? Sure doesn’t seem like it. Meri should sell her Vegas house to the rest of them and let the married spawn live there. Turn the B & B into an old bitty house for Meri, her mom and her sisters. 

[Juliegirlj]

Lots of Aspen this episode ~ are they setting it up to announce the next wedding? Her amblyopia is very obvious. Her wide set eyes make her look a bit like a bug or an alien. 

Poor Ysabel- she needs surgical intervention before the damage is permanent. 

Christine singing..... wtf?!?! 

[Sandy W]

10 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Awkward cringeworthy moment when Meri was practically begging Kody to go see the B & B. She claims to want his support but really just wants him to help finance her ill conceived plan. 

Do Meri and Kody have any interest in mending their relationship? Sure doesn’t seem like it. Meri should sell her Vegas house to the rest of them and let the married spawn live there. Turn the B & B into an old bitty house for Meri, her mom and her sisters. 

Meri must have realized herself how preposterous her proposal to have the rest of family participate, but she forged ahead anyhow.  The nervous giggles and shifting eyes said everything.

Selling her interest in LV house would make sense but I don't think that will happen until TLC cuts the golden cord.  Without the exposure the program gives her, the LLR fan/customer base would dwindle.  Two of Meri's sisters seem to have young kids, I wonder how she would react to toddlers pulling on the fussy crocheted doilies and generally messing with her vision.

[iamgrouchy]

On 01/02/2018 at 12:22 PM, ghoulina said:

How much you wanna bet neither of them actually remembers it.  I can see them standing at the Golden Gate frantically thumbing through their phones saying "Now where the heck did I put that?"

betcha its Taco

 

Whats up with Meri's eyebrows?

Edited February 3, 2018 by iamgrouchy

[Celia Rubenstein]

2 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Meri must have realized herself how preposterous her proposal to have the rest of family participate, but she forged ahead anyhow.  The nervous giggles and shifting eyes said everything.

Part of me thinks Meri shifting gears and suggesting they buy the house just so her mother could live in it was a way to manipulate the family into agreeing to have her operate it as a bed-and-breakfast.

Like, because they weren't quite thrilled enough with the idea of it being a B&B, she changed tactics and suggested making it a private home for her mother just to get the other adults to say hmmm, maybe a bed-and-breakfast isn't such a bad idea. 

I don't know, maybe I am giving her too much credit for being able to plan. But I'm always trying to guess what Meri is up to whenever I see that little shifty eyed, cat-ate-the-canary face she makes when she seems to be trying to put one over on people.

I swear it's almost like she wants people to know that she's trying to pull a fast one ... she just broadcasts it across her mug. The worst ever was the time Kody got all irritated because they had moved some dining tables around, and she was all "it was Christine it was Christine" and she made that damn face. She even joked in a talking head about how she was putting the blame on somebody else so she could avoid having to deal with Kody's anger. Smirked and giggled about it. 

She really just doesn't seem to grasp how unlikable such petty little acts make her - and not only to the audience, but to her sister wives, as well. Who wants to be around someone who constantly tries to manipulate people in such transparent fashion? 

Edited February 3, 2018 by Celia Rubenstein

[xwordfanatik]

@Celia Rubenstein, I didn't think of that, but you are more than likely right.  She's deceitful and then some, so it's entirely possible what you said went down.  

That Nancy the Therapist is useless.  She seems to tell the Browns what they want to hear.  How is that in any way helpful, especially with people as messed up as the Browns, and dear Meri in particular?  

Meri needs a serious therapist that isn't a fame ho.  Your last paragraph says it all!

[Celia Rubenstein]

Someone posted that Kody said he wanted them to pay a visit to Nancy the therapist before he and Meri went to see the house in Parrowan. I missed that. Did he say why? Because .... why???

It just kills me that he thinks they need to take a trip to see that useless idiot. I know she devoted a lot of time to pleading his case the last time she was on the show. She defends him. Kody wanting to see her just says to me that he's already made up his mind that he's against buying the house and he is just looking for someone to support him in breaking the news to Meri. He admitted he was chickenshit to tell her the truth in one of his talking heads.  

 I don't understand why people just can't say no to Meri ... why they can't just put their foot down. Christine came as close as anyone I've ever seen. And it seems to be a fairly new personality development for her. I just don't understand why Meri has gotten away with riding roughshod over everybody for so long. Who the hell cares if she's upset? She never comes out of her house. She never has anything to do with anybody anyway. Who cares if she's pissed off ?

[TurtlePower]

14 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

@Celia Rubenstein, I didn't think of that, but you are more than likely right.  She's deceitful and then some, so it's entirely possible what you said went down.  

That Nancy the Therapist is useless.  She seems to tell the Browns what they want to hear.  How is that in any way helpful, especially with people as messed up as the Browns, and dear Meri in particular?  

Meri needs a serious therapist that isn't a fame ho.  Your last paragraph says it all!

Celia Rubenstien nailed it. Meri is so very deceitful and she is not good at hiding it. It is as if she is proud of it. We've all dissected Meri's detestable, unlikeable behavior to pieces and you're right--Nancy seems useless. Maybe Meri needs a dose of Dr. Phil instead. 

When Meri said she wasn't going to be around as much due to the B&B, I was hoping the family would jump for joy. She's so unlikeable, I don't understand why they'd want her around. As it is, she pretends she doesn't know what's going on around her. If Meri won't leave on her own, maybe they should just give her the cold shoulder. Be a bitch, see ya bitch. 

[Absolom]

I don't understand giving into people like Meri either.  My dearly departed MIL was the same way.  People gave into her all the time with the excuse of that's just the way she is.  Then she met me and I pretty much refused to ever give into her.  After a few tries, she quit trying to play games with me.

Edited February 3, 2018 by Absolom

[neh]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

I don't understand giving into people like Meri either.  My dearly departed MIL was the same way.  People gave into her all the time with the excuse of that's just the way she is.  Then she met me and I pretty much refused to ever give into her.  After a few tries, she quit trying to play games with me.

I get it.  Meri is so unpleasant that it is just easier to go along to get along.  Meri must really just wear them all down and yet she has her devotees who reinforce her ill will in a really sick way.....and who buy her ugly butter-soft leggings.

[zenme]

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that maybe Tony's constant referencing of his heritage and ethnocentrism, is partly due to his being in a religion which was, up until not so long ago, not very welcoming of brown folk, as well as Mykelti and her family, obviously not knowing any Hispanics and acting like Hispanic people are from another planet.  I think he's feeling insecure about how they feel about him. I hate to feel like I'm defending him because he's such an idiot. 

[Gothish520]

On 2/2/2018 at 2:59 PM, neh said:

Bless Logan.  Remember his reaction to Robyn's picture of Kody with her children as babies?  Priceless!

Oh lordy that picture...! I forgot about that. 

[Jeanne222]

I don't think these people have choices.  They have a signed contract with the network and whatever that says they have to do.  Big money in advertising and big fat paychecks for everybody.  Nobody leaves.  Meri might hightail it out of Dodge when they are NOT filming but you can bet she's there when they are.

I'm appalled that the network thinks FT and M and Aspen and her soon to be hubby are worthy.

We have reached a new low especially when Maddie and Caleb moved back into the 'mother house'.  Ugg just ugg.

[SunnyBeBe]

I agree that most of the TLC reality shows are producer driven. I'm not too inclined to take issue with the adult kids trying to get a salary out of it though.  Based on their skills and education, it's unlikely that they could earn nearly as much as they might make if they participate in baby drama.  TLC loves baby stuff.  Not sure if that is what is in the works with Maddie and Caleb, but, if so, I won't be surprised.  Even a season or two could buy them a car, house down payments, etc.  Of course, I do take issue with it, when the adult child is a jerk, unappreciative, demanding and selfish.  Not sure what producers think, but, I don't find that entertaining.  To me, Mykelti and Tony were just being themselves........I know..  unfortunate. 

[Tabbygirl521]

On 2/1/2018 at 7:49 AM, Kyanight said:

The Mormon family I lived with also would not eat anything with MSG in it.  Back then (eons ago!) there were only TWO types of Campbell's soups that didn't have MSG and I didn't like either of them.  I had no idea MSG was in canned soup!  

I wonder if they know that MSG is a naturally occurring substance, in addition to being added artificially to some foods. They’d best do some research. 

Edited February 4, 2018 by Tabbygirl521

[laurakaye]

On 2/3/2018 at 12:49 PM, iamgrouchy said:

Whats up with Meri's eyebrows?

I hope that if nothing else, we will get closure on this question before TLC gives Kody and the Kodettes the permanent boot.

[Sandy W]

11 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I hope that if nothing else, we will get closure on this question before TLC gives Kody and the Kodettes the permanent boot.

...and the brown tooth.  Surely she has heard the feedback on that.

[Kyanight]

11 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

I wonder if they know that MSG is a naturally occurring substance, in addition to being added artificially to some foods. They’d best do some research. 

That was in 1970's.  Little late for them to do research now, lol.  It might have just been their own personal hangup and it had nothing to do with being Mormon.