All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Folks,

If you've made your point, move on, Move on now,  The back and forth over who is the biggest jerk in the home sale/non-sale is not progressing.  Escalating arguments will not change anyone's opinions. 

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[bichonblitz]

11 hours ago, Redrum said:

When Amy sold her half of the wedding barn property, she received approximately 667k. When she sold the big house property - Matt bought it for 975k and has said that he is making payments to Amy and still owes her a lot of money. There's been no mention of an annuity set up by Matt to pay Amy. He did take out an 870k mortgage to buy the property from Amy.

If he took out a mortgage to buy the property from Amy then why is he making payments to her and still owes her alot of money? That doesn't make sense. 

[ginger90]

12 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

If he took out a mortgage to buy the property from Amy then why is he making payments to her and still owes her alot of money? That doesn't make sense. 

Because he took out a mortgage for less than he paid her? So, mortgage + direct payments?

[65mickey]

That makes sense. I wondering the thing about the mortgage and the payments to Amy.

[Endora]

Tori giving in birth in glittery eyeshadow and false eyelashes just makes me laugh

19 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Chris has turned into a little busy body Mrs Kravitz 

LOL!    Chris and Abner Amy Kravitz

[Hedgehog2022]

15 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Murphy wasn’t missing…he was chasing the chickens around the backyard with Jackson 

I missed that...must have been a quick camera shot.

[Joan of Argh]

11 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

I missed that...must have been a quick camera shot.

Actually my mistake… Murphy was in a few shots when Zach came home with the watermelon on and they were out on the back patio with Tori’s mom and gramma.. just quick glimpses of him.

the scenes with Murphy chasing the chickens were from the “bonus scenes” in the previous episode from last season which I watched first just to refresh my memory of where we left off last season.

[Jeanne222]

I like to watch how Zack is keeping up his own property.   Remembering Matt saying something about if Zack bought the property then he, Matt, would have to continue the upkeep!

Looking at Zacks property gives us an idea how he's doing.  Not good.  There was a push mower in the back yard with grass growing around it!

The front yard was a mess.  Lawn needed mowing and bushes needed to be trimmed.

If Zack doesn't want to keep up his own property hire somebody to mow and trim.

Anybody that takes care of their property would hate sharing property lines with lazy Zack!

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17 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I like to watch how Zack is keeping up his own property.   Remembering Matt saying something about if Zack bought the property then he, Matt, would have to continue the upkeep!

Looking at Zacks property gives us an idea how he's doing.  Not good.  There was a push mower in the back yard with grass growing around it!

The front yard was a mess.  Lawn needed mowing and bushes needed to be trimmed.

If Zack doesn't want to keep up his own property hire somebody to mow and trim.

Anybody that takes care of their property would hate sharing property lines with lazy Zack!

Aren’t they surrounded by a trailer home and some industrial site lol?

[Absolom]

50 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I like to watch how Zack is keeping up his own property.   Remembering Matt saying something about if Zack bought the property then he, Matt, would have to continue the upkeep!

Matt's basic premise is a fallacy though.  Zach is an adult.  When property is sold, the seller is no longer responsible for it.  Matt is basically saying outright that he is going to meddle with his adult son and DIL's property and that would set most people off.  

It would be the same thing as if my mother came over and said the floors in my house weren't up to her standard and she'd be sending her cleaning service over on Tuesday.  Matt would need to do something he'd struggle with doing and that is sell the property and then keep his mouth shut and comments about the property's use and upkeep firmly locked in his own head.  If he wanted to continue to try to control the property, then he was right not to sell it to one of the twins.

[Ms.Lulu]

19 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Matt's basic premise is a fallacy though.  Zach is an adult.  When property is sold, the seller is no longer responsible for it.  Matt is basically saying outright that he is going to meddle with his adult son and DIL's property and that would set most people off.  

It would be the same thing as if my mother came over and said the floors in my house weren't up to her standard and she'd be sending her cleaning service over on Tuesday.  Matt would need to do something he'd struggle with doing and that is sell the property and then keep his mouth shut and comments about the property's use and upkeep firmly locked in his own head.  If he wanted to continue to try to control the property, then he was right not to sell it to one of the twins.

I agree with you. Matt is a control freak, so he would feel compelled to take care of the property, which has always been his baby. He believes that his 'empire' would fall into a state of disrepair under Jeremy or Zach without his daily involvement.

And on the flip side, I can see why Matt believes his kids are lazy and piggish and is reluctant to sell to them. He fears the future. We have seen the boys on the farm and no-one has ever accused them of working too hard.

It probably would have been good for the family and its healing if Matt had been successful in selling off the farm. 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Ms.Lulu

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Aren’t they surrounded by a trailer home and some industrial site lol?

Yes and it’s a good thing because as @Jeanne222 said it’s a mess…..there’s grass and weeds growing up against the house, the back patio needs attention, the wooded area is going to seed and the front of the house is looking very unkempt, run down and the thing is their property is only 2 ACRES!… Zach was pouting because Matt cut back the size of the farmhouse parcel to 16 acres… I can’t imagine how he’d manage to care for 16 acres when he can’t even look after 2 acres. 🙄

If their home was in an area with nice homes the neighbours would be up in arms and calling the city to do something…. Zach is lazy and a slob.

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Ms.Lulu said:

I agree with you. Matt is a control freak, so he would feel compelled to take care of the property, which has always been his baby. He believes that his 'empire' would fall into a state of disrepair under Jeremy or Zach without his daily involvement.

And on the flip side, I can see why Matt believes his kids are lazy and piggish and is reluctant to sell to them. He fears the future. We have seen the boys on the farm and no-one has ever accused them of working too hard.

It probably would have been good for the family and its healing if Matt had been successful in selling off the farm. 

It's funny that Matt would be concerned that his kids wouldn't be able to take care of the farm since Matt has been the one behind the building of those play structures that are in complete disrepair and at this point are are not only eyesores but dangerous. If Matt didn't have a crew of people to do all the work around the farm that he can't do it would be one hot mess.

[spacefly]

On 11/2/2022 at 4:09 PM, Endora said:

You can really see and hear the anger in Zach when he talks about the farm and his dad.  He should get some professional help getting over it.  He would like to think that all of his siblings are on the outs with Matt, but I don’t think that is the case.

I think some people really live their lives waiting on the jackpot that may be an inheritance. I have BIL who still complains about a vacation home on Cannon Beach that went to his stepmother when his father died, still complains 25 years later. Gripes about how wealthy he could have been and the struggles he has. I tend to live by the motto that an old boss of mine held, "my dying does not mean you win the lottery". He owned a restaurant and his son thought he would just walk right in and it would be his once he was all grown up.

[Harry Wails]

16 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Yes and it’s a good thing because as @Jeanne222 said it’s a mess…..there’s grass and weeds growing up against the house, the back patio needs attention, the wooded area is going to seed and the front of the house is looking very unkempt, run down and the thing is their property is only 2 ACRES!… Zach was pouting because Matt cut back the size of the farmhouse parcel to 16 acres… I can’t imagine how he’d manage to care for 16 acres when he can’t even look after 2 acres. 🙄

If their home was in an area with nice homes the neighbours would be up in arms and calling the city to do something…. Zach is lazy and a slob.

I totally agree, In the latest episode I couldn't get over how seedy their place is looking but then the camera pans around and you see that industrial site or whatever the hell that is next door and the trailer home on the other side and I still wonder why they bought it. It would look so much better with a fence and some hedges but Zach seems oblivious.

Chris as a realtor hit the nail on the head when he said said 'it's not an attractive flag lot' and "it doesn't have any curb appeal" and now it's looking like a run down house in a crappy location.

Zach was all pumped when they were going to put in their offer, he said "Location, Location, Location!" is he nuts?  It's a terrible location and they're too dumb to realize it.

Zach is a moron and so is Tori and what's up with Jackson taking months to finally receive a good behavior report from school, I suspect that his "OWNING" every place he walks into that Tori seems to find so endearing isn't going over very well with his teacher.

Jackson constantly butts in and has to be the center of attention while little Lilah has to take a back seat and her idiot parents are so enamored with Jackson that they do nothing about it, he's going to run into kids as he grows older that will set him straight, right now he's in with 5 yr olds, wait until he's in a classroom of 8, 9 or 10 yr olds and he pulls that shit.

Edited November 5, 2022 by Munchkin
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[Irate Panda]

I totally forgot about this nonsense starting up again, so I just watched the premiere and below are my musings, which also are mostly nonsense:

• Not enough Murphy, too much of everyone else.  Ideally, the split should go something like:  70% Murphy antics, 10% Amy and MYMAN, 5% Matt, Caryn and the farm, 5% Amy, Matt, Caryn and MYMAN, 5% the kids, 3% cinematic shots of the Battleground old rusty trailer and the non-working lawnmower, 1% Amy,Deb and Lisa, 1% scenes of paint drying, 0% Zach and Tori.
• Watermelon scene, whichever producer came up with that slop should be fired
• Chris says sometimes Amy likes to dress a little wild. Calm down, MYMAN, we all saw the crown hanging off the bed post or night stand but let’s pretend it was the bedpost  🤭
• Matt and Caryn, I’m so tired of hearing about the damn farm.  I don’t care if you got to break that jogging stroller out and go on a hike, strap Matt on those skis again, but get some new material.
• Let’s fawn over Jackson, while Lilah roams around over there by the weeds, seems about right (at least Murphy was keeping watch)
• I can totally see why Zach and Tori are mad that Matt “screwed the family over!!”…I mean they were totally blindsided!  Why would they have thought that anything like could have happened?? Well Jeremy….NOPE! Because IIRC that’s Jer’s former family, which makes getting “screwed over” totally ok.  Plus you throw in all that free child care, Z&T have to allow it. Now Matt and Caryn where you went wrong was that you specifically “screwed over” Zach and Tori, so now you two can hit the bricks.  Besides Z&T are just going to go back and unignore Amy and get some free childcare.  I mean you two are not the only ones that have the privilege of doing Z&T favors, so that’s your loss Pops and take Caryn with you! (Oh and so it’s clear, I don’t particularly like Matt either 🙃)
• What’s breech? Duh…never change, Zach, never change.
• Who does the baby look like? Well Tori, he looks like your arch nemesis, Matt.
• Who is the best at holding the baby? Jackson….of course! I mean he OWNS the baby, so that kind of makes sense.  Although in his defense, did you see the line up on that sofa? That may very well have been a true statement on Jackson’s part.  At worst, he’s probably second best 🤷🏻‍♀️ 
• Is that Lilah toppling over in her chair? “Unbelievable”, Zach lethargically says.  Why does he think this is unbelievable? This poor child is constantly falling, being knocked down, driven into trees.  I take back my earlier statement, just let that child hangout by the weeds.  At least Murphy was on duty, he’ll handle it.

 

*I know it’s very hard to tell from my post, but Zach kind of  irritates me 😏

[1011101010001]

3 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Who does the baby look like? Well Tori, he looks like your arch nemesis, Matt.

That might have been the messiest baby I’ve ever seen handed to a mom on tv.

3 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Who is the best at holding the baby? Jackson…

I was wondering about the wisdom of having two babies hold a baby.  Don’t you have to support its head, be careful about the soft spot, etc.  I guess it’s safer than leaving it unattended on the kitchen island.

[BAForever]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

  I guess it’s safer than leaving it unattended on the kitchen island.

New to this show, have skipped around and seen prob about 1/2 of all episodes. Got into Zach and Tori's new house episodes recently. Tori plopped toddler Lyla on the kitchen island. I'm screaming at the TV how careless/dangerous that is. So I'm guessing it's a pattern? These people.....

[SunnyBeBe]

On 11/6/2022 at 8:44 PM, BAForever said:

New to this show, have skipped around and seen prob about 1/2 of all episodes. Got into Zach and Tori's new house episodes recently. Tori plopped toddler Lyla on the kitchen island. I'm screaming at the TV how careless/dangerous that is. So I'm guessing it's a pattern? These people.....

Yeah, like last season Lyla running into a tree on the battery operated vehicle.  Or, Jackson lingering over a filthy body of rushing water.  It would be like a running joke on the show, if it wasn’t so disgustingly inappropriate.  

[Redrum]

Hilariously at about eight minutes into the new episode Matt states that he never sat down with both Jeremy and Zach over the farm. Even though he's been running them down for refusing the great offer that he made to them. Which is it, Matt?

The contrast of Chris playing with the kids versus Caryn talking about not seeing the kids was an interesting editorial choice. Chris also teases Amy pretty well. He is interested in the farm sale and was surprised at the price. 

Caryn does concede something got said in the meeting that she wishes they could discuss because she didn't mean it "that way". 

Matt meanwhile hangs with his old friend Cowboy Bob and maintains now that while he repeatedly called the place a legacy to the family, he never said "inherit". The convo with Bob seemed really forced, like Bob had a list of questions and comments to make. Matt also now says he assumed all of the kids would work together to work at and live on the farm as a team. It seriously seemed staged for Matt.

Very little actually happened.

[1011101010001]

And you know if anything happened to one of the kids they would be chewing up the scenery wailing.

[SunnyBeBe]

2 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

And you know if anything happened to one of the kids they would be chewing up the scenery wailing.

I’m really hoping they don’t own or possess firearms.  

[65mickey]

8 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Yeah, like last season Lyla running into a tree on the battery operated vehicle.  Or, Jackson lingering over a filthy body of rushing water.  It would be like a running joke on the show, if it wasn’t so disgustingly inappropriate.  

Yeah and Tori had the remote in her hands and didn't know how to operate it. She sat there laughing but Zach seem pretty put out wit her. 

[missnoa]

On 11/2/2022 at 1:36 PM, Hedgehog2022 said:

Matt is such a whiner and seems to be playing around with some revisionist history. He said MANY times he wanted one of the kids or several of the kids to inherit the farm. He never said he wanted any of them to buy it...at least he never said it on the air. At this point I don't give a rat's ass about his farm and apparently no one else does either as Matt has had ZERO offers to buy it. From what I've read, no one wants to be a part of the family drama and no one wants to buy a property with all those ricketty "play" structures that would cost a fortune to demolish and cart away. He thought he was being so savvy by putting it on the market when it was a sellers market...unfortunately for Matt, he put it up for sale at the tail end of the seller's market and got zero bites. The market turned around quickly in late spring to a buyers market and prices went down. Now the house is an ARBNB...great strategizing there Matt.

Seriously, I find this new angle so confusing because I distinctly remember, especially around the time the first grandkids were getting born, that Matt was going on and on about how great having the farm was because it was truly part of a legacy for the grandkids and for the family. None of that was anything about "well of course they'll have to pay me for it". Surely if he couldn't afford to take care of the place, he could have gone to the kids and asked them to buy in and then when he passed, leave his part to them. It's just so odd to see him act like he never acted like the farm was inheritance. In fact I would bet money that all the way back when he was buying all that land and building all those "attractions" on there, his justification for all of it was "this is going to be a legacy to leave our kids, Amy, and it will just go up in value." 

But honestly I find the whole thing puzzling because at this point in his life, unless he's somehow totally broke, why does Matt need to worry about money to the point where he decided to sell the farm? Hire someone to do upkeep, it can't be that hard. Being broke is the only reason I could think of why he would decide to sell it and not to his kids (who he could have let only buy parts, or work on paying him for it over the course of a few years, etc). He's an older guy with specific health issues, he doesn't have to worry about 20 years from now what money he'll survive on. He's got another house in another state, he's got a partner, what in the world would make him suddenly decide "I need to sell this farm and cut the kids out and damage my relationship with them and jeopardize my relationship with my grandkids, all the while acting like they're the bad guys."

And then after all that, they couldn't sell it. How pointless.

Edited November 9, 2022 by missnoa

[65mickey]

Matt is no different from most people who reach a certain age and they have to stop and take stock of how they will pay for care should they become infirm and not able to care for themselves. Matt has a lot of health problems.  Caryn is not his wife and she is not treated as his wife by some of the kids.  Matt wants to build a house on part of the farm that he plans to keep. So I assume he needs funds for this and he says that he is paying off a mortgage that he took out to buy Amy's share of the farm. He is 60 not ready to be put out to pasture yet. The kids can wait for their inheritance like most kids do. He is only selling a small part of the farm so he is not cutting his kids out.

Two seasons of this farm saga is getting really tiring. 

[Eme]

 Zach said it-Karen needs to stay in her lane....which is not interfering with Family Business.  She’s very opinionated and supportive of Matt’s shenanigans, so I can see how Zach would feel especially betrayed by her.  
 

So wish Matt and Karen would get off the show. 
 

[BusyOctober]

I wasn’t the type of parent that put bubble wrap around my kid, but safety was a priority.  We had helmets, knee pads, life jackets, buckles and harnesses to keep our kids protected from the time they were babies until present teen years.  I do not understand how Zach and Tori can make Jackson and Lilah wear helmets for their scooters, but then let Jackson RIDE IN THE BUCKET of the tractor?!?! And let Lilah bounce around in the seat with just Zach’s arm casually draped around her. WTF??

And that property looks shittier and shittier every time it’s shown. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, they say.  Zach and Tori act like they landed smack dab in the middle of some National Geographic documentary about the wild beauty of the Pacific Northwest.  Muddy lot pinned in by trailer parks and commercial buildings.  Overgrown weed-choked field.  And the culvert full of God knows what runoff.  Yes, very cinematic…”A River (of filth) Runs Through It” vibes for sure.

Every time I see Jackson’s legs, I cringe.  I know it’s my own ignorance of dwarfism, and my lack of understanding the condition he and other kids with dwarfism have.  It just looks so painful to me.  I really hope the surgery he had will help prevent future discomfort, or God forbid, turn into a more challenging or debilitating situation. 
 

[SunnyBeBe]

I find the show more enjoyable when I turn the sound down when Z and T are on the screen.  

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, BusyOctober said:

Every time I see Jackson’s legs, I cringe.  I know it’s my own ignorance of dwarfism, and my lack of understanding the condition he and other kids with dwarfism have.  It just looks so painful to me.  I really hope the surgery he had will help prevent future discomfort, or God forbid, turn into a more challenging or debilitating situation. 

I think he NEEDS surgery in the future.  I can't understand how that "bow" isn't painful.  He's such a special kid...and there MUST be something that can make his legs straighter without too many procedures...and pain.  

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, Eme said:

So wish Matt and Karen would get off the show. 

Caryn first.  It's possible she sticks around only to be on television.  She managed some parts of the business before the Roloffs split up; she probably knows exactly how much money is involved. 

I would like their "happy lives" to skid to a halt when no marriage happens and Caryn realizes, therefore, she's not "entitled" to any of the property, income, or money provided by Matt.  No, Caryn...no matter how much planning you do for the new house--  No matter how much you interfered in a family business deal that involved Roloff children's possibly taking over some of the Roloff Farms properties and business--  You might be left out in the cold...especially if the children are "somehow" forced into making the legal decisions.

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

He is only selling a small part of the farm so he is not cutting his kids out.

It ain't necessarily so.

4 hours ago, missnoa said:

But honestly I find the whole thing puzzling because at this point in his life, unless he's somehow totally broke, why does Matt need to worry about money to the point where he decided to sell the farm?

EGO!  I think he was always a selfish adult--secretive about money and all his "deals," that Dumb Bunny Amy "could never possibly understand."  Sadly, he was a little boy with a lot of medical difficulties--many hospitalizations and surgeries that kept him away from his family.  People probably catered to him at the time he needed it...and he grew into a human expecting everything to go his way.  He grew into a First Class Jerk.

[Back Atcha]

On 11/8/2022 at 8:13 PM, BusyOctober said:

 We had helmets, knee pads, life jackets, buckles and harnesses to keep our kids protected from the time they were babies until present teen years.  I do not understand how Zach and Tori can make Jackson and Lilah wear helmets for their scooters, but then let Jackson RIDE IN THE BUCKET of the tractor?!?! And let Lilah bounce around in the seat with just Zach’s arm casually draped around her. WTF??

I'm a different generation; my sons are in their mid-50s.  They rode bikes, created ramps, skated, rollerbladed and never had a knee pad or helmet.  They had car seats when they were babies, but they were fabric with "hooks" that fit over the seatback.  Stopping suddenly caused the seat AND car seat to pitch a baby forward--sometimes into a METAL dashboard.

My sisters and I weren't farm kids, but there were dairy farms, pastures, irrigation ditches, and canals in our wide-wide neighborhood.  We covered MILES on our bike while our mother (supporting us on her own) was at work...and public transportation was a 2-hr ideal for her every day--one way.  We grew up without broken bones, missing teeth, STITCHES, lowered IQs, police records, etc. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Back Atcha

[Joan of Argh]

Okay I’m totally confused… maybe someone can explain.

Matt built what was described as the garage for his new house and to me it looked like it was near the wedding barn but when Caryn was walking with cowboy bob’s wife (sorry I don’t recall her name) she pointed to a huge mound of dirt that looked to be in a completely different area and said that’s where the new house will be located… so he’s no longer building his dream home near the garage?

The entire episode seemed like a fake script with everyone reading their parts…. *snore*

[Jeanne222]

MOO is that Matt is selling the house and acreage for money and also saying goodbye to the old!

To be able to follow his dreams he needs money.  Money to payoff Amy and money to build his and Caryn new home.

It will be interesting to see if this new plan for renting out the old house works out.

It doesn't seem the house and land were on the market long enough to sell.  I wonder if money wise he's struggling.

[RedDelicious]

I think the word Caryn was looking for was copacetic. 

[Spazamanaz]

I really feel bad for Lilah, does anyone one of them ever pay any attention to her?! Chris gifts Jackson with his own fish or frog or whatever it was. And now gifts him with a bike. And poor Lilah is always left on her own, roaming somewhere in the background. I was passed when Jackson got the bike and Lilah got nothing. As usual.

[Redrum]

6 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Okay I’m totally confused… maybe someone can explain.

Matt built what was described as the garage for his new house and to me it looked like it was near the wedding barn but when Caryn was walking with cowboy bob’s wife (sorry I don’t recall her name) she pointed to a huge mound of dirt that looked to be in a completely different area and said that’s where the new house will be located… so he’s no longer building his dream home near the garage?

Well, the garage was built on the whim to draw attention away from Amy's wedding and to irritate her so it may not have been well planned. I know the design at one point was that Matt wanted a covered attached walkway from the garage to the new house. Personally I always thought this meant the new house had to be placed in a pretty specific spot but in this episode, Matt alluded to the idea that instead of going with a dream house designed to his exact specification, he is going with something where the plans are already made and it can be adjusted a little. This may mean no covered walkway from the massive garage. 

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

It will be interesting to see if this new plan for renting out the old house works out.

Matt took out a mortgage of 875k. Thats a monthly bill of approximately 5k+ a month. That's a lot of Airbnb rentals to break even. 

[Absolom]

It was delayed birthday present because Chris couldn't go to the party.  On that basis, I'd exempt him.  Lilah does seem to get a backseat except with Amy.  She goes out of her way to include Lilah and to call to her to join with the family.  If in the next year or so we don't see something from Chris especially for her birthday, then I'll join the complaining.  

Edited November 9, 2022 by Absolom

[Endora]

More of the constant anger and going on and on about the farm.  Chris again very concerned about how much money will make when it’s sold.  MYOB Chris!  Get over it angry little troll Zach and your frumpy wife!  Apparently there has been no “recanazation” from Matt and Caryn🤣.   Advice for Caryn, forget them and just enjoy your own grandson.  Jackson didn’t care about that used bike, he went right back to his scooter.    Amy had more fun on it than he did in the “postage stamp” of a park.  

Thought it was interesting that Matt said again that Zach came in with a lot of demands and then specifically mentioned maintenance.  Did Zach want Matt to pay to maintain his property even after he owned it?   I think there is so much we don’t know about the negotiations and never will.  

[Redrum]

1 hour ago, Endora said:

More of the constant anger and going on and on about the farm.  Chris again very concerned about how much money will make when it’s sold.  MYOB Chris!  

I mean, as a realtor, why wouldn't he be interested? I was surprised that Chris said Matt set the price much higher than he had discussed with Chris... and if he's discussing pricing with Chris then he made it Chris's business in my opinion. Matt shouldn't have discussed pricing the place with Chris if he also wants Chris to mind his own business.

[readheaded]

4 hours ago, Endora said:

More of the constant anger and going on and on about the farm.  Chris again very concerned about how much money will make when it’s sold.  MYOB Chris!  Get over it angry little troll Zach and your frumpy wife!  Apparently there has been no “recanazation” from Matt and Caryn🤣.   Advice for Caryn, forget them and just enjoy your own grandson.  Jackson didn’t care about that used bike, he went right back to his scooter.    Amy had more fun on it than he did in the “postage stamp” of a park.  

Thought it was interesting that Matt said again that Zach came in with a lot of demands and then specifically mentioned maintenance.  Did Zach want Matt to pay to maintain his property even after he owned it?   I think there is so much we don’t know about the negotiations and never will.  

We'll know what went on when they find a way to monetize it at a price they're happy with. 

[Joan of Argh]

4 hours ago, Endora said:

More of the constant anger and going on and on about the farm.  Chris again very concerned about how much money will make when it’s sold.  MYOB Chris!  Get over it angry little troll Zach and your frumpy wife!  Apparently there has been no “recanazation” from Matt and Caryn🤣.   Advice for Caryn, forget them and just enjoy your own grandson.  Jackson didn’t care about that used bike, he went right back to his scooter.    Amy had more fun on it than he did in the “postage stamp” of a park.  

Chris was definitely in full blown ass kisser 💋mode, if he keeps this up they’ll need a surgeon to remove his lips from ZiTs rear end.      
It’s really embarrassing how hard he’s trying to replace their actual grandpa Matt.    
Chris needs to back off, it’s very unattractive. 👎🏻

What Jackson needs is a “balance bike” not a standard bike, Will and Zoey the dwarf children on the “Little Couple” both had balance bikes to learn on and they were zooming around in no time and quickly switched to regular bikes after learning to balance a 2 wheeler.

Jackson was struggling on that used bike but typical know-it-all Jackson says it was “easy peasy” ya riiight 🙄… then he immediately dumped the Chris bike, grabbed his 3 wheeled toddler skateboard and zoomed around making himself the center of attention AS USUAL while Lilah was ignored.

He was bossing Lilah around when she tried to help Josiah, I used to really enjoy Jackson but his bullying and bossing is not fun to watch and I’m tired of his antics… not cute at all.

Tori and her smart ass “the dove took that olive leaf to a different island “ might wind up regretting her snotty remarks, at this point I hope Matt leaves his estate to Caryn, Molly and Jacob…. Forget about the twins… Jer and Auj don’t need it and ZiT don’t deserve it.

I’d love to see ZiT left high and dry with no inheritance.  😂

[stoppro]

chris ought to smarten up and back right out of this shit show.

[chenoa333]

30 minutes ago, stoppro said:

chris ought to smarten up and back right out of this shit show.

 Chris knows exactly what he's up to. Amy doesn't realize it. 

[Libby]

I like Chris. He seems like a nice man to me. I thought it was nice that he got Jackson a bike for his birthday.

[Harry Wails]

13 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

 Chris knows exactly what he's up to. Amy doesn't realize it. 

I've never liked Chris and this new Chris is a freakshow, DUDE, STAY IN YOUR LANE!

His new found love of children and need to stick his big nose in to Matt's position is fucking CREEPY to say the least.

He's also way too interested in Matt's business and keeping tabs on the farmhouse, he's like a stalker.... If I was Matt I'd distance myself from the guy. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Talking about the stuff that’s about the storyline doesn’t bother me that much.  I accept it for the most part, because it’s the nature of realty tv.  Except that I  have had enough with the house deal already. I’m tired of that.  But, no doubt the producers told the cast members what they should talk about.  If not, we’d be at the mercy of anything that comes to their minds….Hey Caryn, my corns are killing me.  When is my podiatrist appointment?; Amy, where’d you put that massage oil?; Matt, can you fill my gas tank when you go to the store?…..I mean, who wants that?  Lol. 

[suev3333]

Shut up Zack...Caryn may not be immediate family,  but she's in the family.  I think she had a right in being somewhat  involved in the sale of her fiance's farm.  Zac is such an ass saying he doesn't want Caryn to see Josiah.    Grow up.  I really am growing to dislike him.   And enough with spitting out kids already.

[Phoebe70]

Jackson’s legs look even worse than before!

Tori’s gold eyeshadow and fake eyelashes while she’s having a c-section…so cringey. 

[65mickey]

28 minutes ago, Phoebe70 said:

Jackson’s legs look even worse than before!

Tori’s gold eyeshadow and fake eyelashes while she’s having a c-section…so cringey. 

Was she really having the c section when this was shown? Because her major surgery/c section would not allow any makeup of any kind including fake eyelashes. At least that was I was told last year when I had surgery to repair a broken bone and this year for gallbladder removal. This may have been staged for the show. I can't belive they would let her go to surgery with this smeared on her face. Maybe they made allowances for the TV star.