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12 hours ago, Adeejay said:

For someone who claims to be a world traveler, I find it interesting that Cortney didn’t seem to have enough money to spend the night in a hotel.  I have a feeling if the cameras weren’t there to bear witness, their story would have been quite different. 

Larry may be lackadaisical and socially awkward, but that still did not give Jenny the right to speak to him the way she did.  You don’t order a grown man to “come here.” I noticed that even though she was very angry with him, she had no qualms about returning to their four stars hotel complete with indoor plumbing and big comfortable bed.

At one point when Antonio is making eggs, he refers to her as his "sugar mama." Did anyone else notice that?

It could be that he didn't fully understand the term. He doesn't understand a lot of things.

However, it made me wonder if perhaps Corney is paying for a lot of the meals and salsa dancing herself?

I think her initial offer to stay in a hotel was just a veneer of politeness. She fully intended to crash with him the entire time, and he's horrified! He will have to wait her out or kick her out.

The only thing worse than living in that tin can with another person is living in a tin can with another person whom you dislike!

I didn't mind seeing Larry treated that way. He allowed it. And I did think about how Jenny wanted to go back and sulk in the big bed.  I got the impression that she's not so close to her family and perhaps her life choices have created a friction all their own.

But Jenny's priorities have been assigned and are in their appropriate order for herself. Material comfort over dignity, always. It's not even a close call.

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highlighted sugar mama because it's critical... or do I say crucial?
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1 hour ago, EastCoast4Life said:

I love the way Larry makes up with Jenny! Loudly talking directly into her ear, whilst clutching her in a death grip, all while wearing his stupid hat. He really is pathetic. 

That was very uncomfortable to watch.

Like she was just some object there for his benefit and his alone. She lies there dormant smelling the sweat from the hat.

I can't imagine their honeymoon night!

What was it that Gomez reminded Fester of? "No giggling... and no finger puppets."

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Would anyone actually sit for 24 hours in a sweltering room waiting for a shithead to come back??

Yes. I have known several people in my life who are that desperate not to be alone and to find "true love" that they would sit in a 100 degree shit hole for 24 hours desperately waiting for their asshole to come back to them. In the same way someone would spend their entire 401k on a trip to meet a woman who might not even like them. Or not die from embarrassment when a guy gets on one knee in front of a camera and hands them an "appreciation ring."

And yes, Larry is creepy. I couldn't figure out why so many people kept singing his praises in the beginning. He always creeped me out.

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14 minutes ago, Kellyee said:

 

And yes, Larry is creepy. I couldn't figure out why so many people kept singing his praises in the beginning. He always creeped me out.

Yessss, me too.  I was one of the first people in the thread after he was first introduced who said I thought he was creepy and there was a reason he's been single so long.  Everyone said he's just a sad sack and harmless.  Ah HEM.  Told ya'll so (ducks and runs.)

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I agree with everyone that Corny is a complete and utter fool and that her parents' trepidation about her flying to Spain to get engaged or whatever was completely justified.  I mean, look what happened?  But the thing about their "relationship" that I really can't stand is the way Antonio refuses, time and again, to just MAN UP and TELL her "it's not working and you have to leave."  His passive-aggressive approach is NOT working because she's jus not astute enough to realize what he's trying to do.  He's like the high school boyfriend who wants to dump his girlfriend without hurting her so he starts to treat her like shit, hoping she'll dump HIM.  He is too old to be acting that way.  If you want her gone, don't run away "hoping" she'll get the hint and leave before you get back.  TELL HER TO LEAVE.  The direct approach always works best.

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14 hours ago, Former Nun said:
18 hours ago, booboopbedoo said:

Once he got her he no longer wanted her and her whining and weird big eye.

HEY!   Why do you think her LITTLE eye isn't the weird one?

They both are! lol

I would have taken something as a souvenier - like all his bedding or maybe the chair or fridge.

He said he went to get money. Is that from his Mom or the bank I wonder??

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1 hour ago, booboopbedoo said:
15 hours ago, Former Nun said:
19 hours ago, booboopbedoo said:

Once he got her he no longer wanted her and her whining and weird big eye.

HEY!   Why do you think her LITTLE eye isn't the weird one?

They both are! lol

 

Their relative sizes are weird, but the important thing for me is the complete lack of intelligence in her eyes.  Cows look at passing trains with more comprehension.  

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1 hour ago, Oosala said:

... I really can't stand is the way Antonio refuses, time and again, to just MAN UP and TELL her "it's not working and you have to leave."  His passive-aggressive approach is NOT working because she's jus not astute enough to realize what he's trying to do. ... If you want her gone, don't run away "hoping" she'll get the hint and leave before you get back.  TELL HER TO LEAVE.  The direct approach always works best.

Manning-up and breaking it off is most likely what he would do if they weren't on a TV show that craves drama and crazy behaviour. Aren't they getting paid to be together no matter how unhappy or incompatible?  What's the likelihood of the show producers not intervening and creating manufactured tension with stunts like disappearing to do laundry for 24 hours? Or getting down on one knee to present an "appreciation ring". I mean ... who does that??

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18 minutes ago, deedee2 said:

What's the likelihood of the show producers not intervening and creating manufactured tension with stunts like disappearing to do laundry for 24 hours? Or getting down on one knee to present an "appreciation ring". I mean ... who does that??

Edited 14 minutes ago by deedee2.

Yes.  It's so unbelievable.  I am beginning to feel sorry for all of us, as viewers.  

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9 hours ago, tincansailor981 said:

Gumby, from Florida, that's who.  It must rejuvenate her tear ducts and recycles her whine mode.

She was drinking the red wine because the white wine that she started out drinking was gone. At least that's what it looked like to me. He won't have a drop of alcohol left in that apartment! 

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35 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

She was drinking the red wine because the white wine that she started out drinking was gone. At least that's what it looked like to me. He won't have a drop of alcohol left in that apartment! 

She might be desperate to forget the sex they had.  

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On 10/16/2017 at 9:24 AM, poeticlicensed said:

Larry needs to stay in the US. He can't handle "cultural differences". He needs to go on US dating sites and find a simple woman who can appreciate his lifestyle. 

I have been to the islands of Hawaii, Oahu and Kauai several times & have attended many luau's.  Each time, you're invited to watch them place the pig into the "imu" early in the morning & then remove it before serving.  It is actually the best pork I've ever had.

If this guy keeps kosher, which I do respect as I have family members who keep kosher, all he needed to do was explain this & eat the foods not cooked inside the pig. I don't believe he does, there's a lot more to keeping kosher than not eating pork. I think it turned his stomach to see the whole pig laid out like that. 

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6 hours ago, Oosala said:

I agree with everyone that Corny is a complete and utter fool and that her parents' trepidation about her flying to Spain to get engaged or whatever was completely justified.  I mean, look what happened?  But the thing about their "relationship" that I really can't stand is the way Antonio refuses, time and again, to just MAN UP and TELL her "it's not working and you have to leave."  His passive-aggressive approach is NOT working because she's jus not astute enough to realize what he's trying to do.  He's like the high school boyfriend who wants to dump his girlfriend without hurting her so he starts to treat her like shit, hoping she'll dump HIM.  He is too old to be acting that way.  If you want her gone, don't run away "hoping" she'll get the hint and leave before you get back.  TELL HER TO LEAVE.  The direct approach always works best.

The majority of men are too chicken to directly tell a woman that whatever relationship they have is over, unless they are angry about something. A lot of them just start avoiding the woman until she gets the hint. I dont think he has the will to tell her to get out of his apartment though. By the way, there's no way the "Broken A/C" story is real and not production-driven. When the A/C is broke in a very hot climate, you can tell by looking at the people in the room. Courtney had a flawless face of makeup that wasn't smeared even a little, plus her hair was smooth. 

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22 minutes ago, Matias130 said:

The majority of men are too chicken to directly tell a woman that whatever relationship they have is over, unless they are angry about something. A lot of them just start avoiding the woman until she gets the hint. I dont think he has the will to tell her to get out of his apartment though. By the way, there's no way the "Broken A/C" story is real and not production-driven. When the A/C is broke in a very hot climate, you can tell by looking at the people in the room. Courtney had a flawless face of makeup that wasn't smeared even a little, plus her hair was smooth. 

In the beginning, they were starting to sweat when the A/C did "break." And, it really appeared to be dripping water.  I think it just froze up because they had been running it too hard. (Perhaps Antonio's American guest liked to stay extra cool?) All he needed to do was keep it turned off for about four hours and it would run again.

When they resumed filming 36 hours later, Courtney was made up because it appeared to have been fixed. I think that the A/C guy must have shown up, or, after asking a few specific questions, he told Antonio to turn it off for a few hours before letting it run again.

Antonio does need to go ahead and tell her to leave. Or, he can just take off again. This time for two days. See if she's still sitting there when he gets back.

I was like, "Courtney, go out and look at SPAIN!"

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Courtney wasnt going to leave that apartment. She couldn't let that door slam and lock behind her. Antonio would have snuck back in, pushed her crap in the hallway, turned off the lights and ignored her banging on the door.

Poor man probably sat in the park across the street all night hoping for her to leave so he could reclaim his home.

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6 minutes ago, booboopbedoo said:
21 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

 

contact him! I am sure he is available! Bring plenty of Lysol spray

What horrible thing did I ever do to warrant such a recommendation?  I am now sobbing into my hankie.  

Later, I will obtain McNuggets and subject them to unspeakable amorous acts.  Maybe I'l  invite some fries to join in when I get bored.  

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17 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

So what do you call this, McPorn?

Clutching my pearls in confusion.  Whatever could you mean?  

". . . .It's very late on a hot night.  I order something, anything,  just so I can pull up your window.  You have your work shirt on backward, our special sign.  Our eyes meet, and lock.  Our breathing deepens in unison.  I motion toward the ketchup packet on the windowsill, and you nod, knowingly.  It's going to be "Number 47" tonight, and we are both so achingly ready. . . . ."

Or did you mean something else?  

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On 10/18/2017 at 9:24 AM, Me from ME said:

It wasn't just the ubiquity of the hat. IT WAS THE FIT! Come on Larry didn't you at least try it on for size? Don't you own a mirror?

I saw a big gap between The Hat and where his head should have been.

Wondering if Larry’s hat should have its own Facebook page.  It’s taken on a life of its own.

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On 10/15/2017 at 8:41 PM, tincansailor981 said:

I give zero shits about Myriam when she's the one playing games.  She knows lip licker is into her, yet she strings him along with that friend zone bullshit.  If she does have a boyfriend, and that's debatable, she's an ass for playing them both and she deserves to get her feelings hurt.  You don't have a man fly all the way to Paris to see you and somehow forget to tell him youre already in a relationship.  The boyfriend sounds like she's just a drive by when it's convenient and she's only now starting to realize it.  She feels stupid for being a side piece and well she should.

OMG lip licker....perfect...dying over here

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On 10/18/2017 at 7:29 AM, EastCoast4Life said:

I love the way Larry makes up with Jenny! Loudly talking directly into her ear, whilst clutching her in a death grip, all while wearing his stupid hat. He really is pathetic. 

And he just looks STANK to me.  In every way possible.  He and Paul could be brothers, IMO.

5 hours ago, Sprockets said:

I motion toward the ketchup packet on the windowsill, and you nod, knowingly.  It's going to be "Number 47" tonight, and we are both so achingly ready. . . . ."

 

BWAH.  You are killing me here.  Here, let me add to it a bit: "...I see, with a shiver of anticipation, that you brought the McNuggets again, and this time with the Hot Mustard dipping sauce.  What could you have in mind?"

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1 hour ago, bethster2000 said:

And he just looks STANK to me.  In every way possible.  He and Paul could be brothers, IMO.

BWAH.  You are killing me here.  Here, let me add to it a bit: "...I see, with a shiver of anticipation, that you brought the McNuggets again, and this time with the Hot Mustard dipping sauce.  What could you have in mind?"

Be still my heart.  McPorn could be even more engaging than the 90 day shitshow.

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I feel that somehow I’ve been transported into the movie “Groundhog Day ” and must view the same clips over and over every week or episode. Evidently the producers assume no intelligence or memory on my part, even though we are now at Episode 11 and only the die-hard can be assumed to be present. I hate being treated like a moron, although I guess these days that can be considered a compliment.  

It makes me sad to see Kreeny persist, although I know it’s for her sake and her family. Maybe it’s like Jenny’s mom having to go abroad. At least K. seems genuine. I wonder how her retired-cop father feels about the felony/felonies and, if he also knows that Pole probably has no economic prospects. 

Abby is a snake, a liar, and quite ordinary looking, with those spaniel-ear extensions a-flappin'. I wish whiny Sean would meet with an unfortunate accident (paging Mambo Gladys!) and be replaced with John, the only voice of sanity in this hot mess along with Delusional Larry’s brother and Filipina SIL, and Mamas Jesse and Patrick.

I can’t believe Larry didn't have the decency to say goodbye and apologize in person to Papa, who looked so upset in that one clip. The Notorious Larry-P is rapper fabulous in that hat. I cringed the more he slid his tentacles and dumped his FEELINGS all over J. (without asking anything about hers or what she wants), serving to make her cry and recoil all the harder. But for her part, she should have told him it’s not working. I know, I dream. 

Re Sulky Elly Mae—Cortney, don’t tell me you live in Orlando, travel the world, and can’t handle a patch of heat and humidity. It's not like she parachuted in from the North Woods. It’s obvious she always expects someone else to pick up the tab. I’m sure she’s never available to reciprocate the free hospitality of her “couch surfing” hosts, in her parents’ home. Clearly I’m a sucker to, like, work and pay rent. Antonio is at least 40 (miles of hard road). 

Jesse, you don’t get on one knee, place a “diamond"-looking ring on a woman’s left ring finger and announce your “appreciation.” “Appreciation” is a nice pen a boss gives someone after 10 years of service. As if we should kiss HIS ring because he went to the immense trouble of having the Dutch J.C. Penney engrave it. With all those dangerous-looking gears and machinery grinding a foot or two away (so romantic!), if it were me, this scene would haunt my nightmares forever. Even garbage trucks would trigger PTSD. I wish this were Hitchcock so Darcy could "accidentally" bump him to Geardom Come. How gentlemanly to force someone who’s afraid of heights to climb a vertical ladder (probably in heels) to Norman Bates's Attic, for all she knew. Don't you love these men pushing their dates into humiliating physical exercise and then criticizing them?

All in all, no wonder I don't want to date. I might have coffee with John, though. 

P.S. What is Patrick on? Ritalin? Bolivian marching powder?  

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Here's another universal truth that this time Myriam should know: Any red-blooded guy who is your "friend" and wants to hang out with you is actually just trying to have sex with you, to further validate himself. If the girl is a 4 or above on the looks scale, its pretty much guaranteed. Patrick has zero interest to practice mixed martial arts, at which he is an expert, with a girl who has never done it before. The whole point of the gym hangout was for Patrick to try to come on to Myriam and makes a move and see how she reacts. I didn't find anything inappropriate about the way he touched her - he wasnt touching bodyparts that are off limits to "friends", and if she didnt want to get a closer with him - then dont hang out with him, and maybe not while youre complaining about your boyfriend to him either. This is not middle school anymore. 

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I thought that the reason Miriam was so annoyed at being asked to go to the gym was because she kind of thought Patrick was hinting that she was fat. We know why Patrick set it up for them to go there, but Myriam came in the door looking upset.  Who asks someone to hang out at the gym while they're on vacation? I don't think she figured out what he was really trying to do until he did that "hug" martial arts pose. Then she seemed even more annoyed. 

Darcy seemed to already know she wasn't getting proposed to when Jesse got down on one knee. She's the kind of woman that would squeal and prance if she thought it was a real proposal. She was surprisingly subdued during the whole windmills thing. I had to laugh that Jesse's only stipulation with the ring was Darcy could not call it an engagement ring. She could call it a promise ring. She could call it a love token but she better not call it engagement. That's as verboten as the devil wine.

Cortney is definitely that type of couch surfer that makes you have to give up your whole apartment so you can get away from them. I don't think she's ever paid for a hotel in her life. Antonio has been catfished so bad by this relationship. I bet he's cut down on bringing sugar mommies back to his place ever since Cortney harshed his mellow.

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For an encore to that absurd ring presentation, I hope Jesse tells Darcy that he wants to throw her a going away party before she leaves: "Hey babe, why don't you put on a big white dress and meet me at the church so we can make vows to love one another in front of all my friends and family. But it's NOT a wedding, it's a going away party! What are you so upset about?! Hey, look at that goat..."

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I'm ashamed to admit this, but here goes....I bought this season on Amazon for $19.99.  I don't have regular cable but saw one episode and got hooked!

 

Darcy - Those fillers aren't doing her any favors.  She looked horrible coming off that plane.  No way does she look 42.  I'm 45 and my teenager said she looks "way older" than me.  Did you notice that when Jesse walked into his apartment, he was wearing an "H & 11" jacket from Darcy's label?  There is something unnerving about him.  I can't quite put my finger on it.  I desperately want to cut that clump of side bang that he's constantly  brushing back.  His apartment seemed a little too effeminate with the satin bedspread, pink champagne, flowers, female bust.  I loved how Darcy made it seem like she almost broke her leg when her shoe got caught in the "elevator."  Talk about dramatic.  She looked ridiculous hobbling around in the stilettos.  This should be interesting.

Paul - I could swear I saw two boxes of athlete's foot cream when the dogs were sniffing his luggage.  A venom extractor, full first aid kit, water filters....did he pack a defibrillator as well?  His relationship is the most bizarre of all of them.  He has been talking with her for months, yet only took 3 weeks' worth of Portuguese?  They literally cannot communicate without a translator app.  There's no way this can work out.

Sean - He's a relatively good-looking man.  Ok, he has a thing for dark-skinned women.  I live in Cincinnati, which is less than 2 hours away.  There are plenty to choose from.  Every time he calls her "Baby" the hair on my arms stand up.  She is a baby at age 20.  He should be ashamed of himself. 

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13 minutes ago, Phoebe70 said:

Paul - I could swear I saw two boxes of athlete's foot cream when the dogs were sniffing his luggage.  A venom extractor, full first aid kit, water filters....did he pack a defibrillator as well

I wasn't looking that closely . . . did you see anything that looked like this?

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AZChristian. LOLOLOL....I didn't see one, but that doesn't mean he didn't pack one!  My poor husband walked into the room right when Paul was explaining that he needed to pee in a Trojan.  The look on his face was priceless.  Later on, he walked in just as Sean was screaming, "190 pairs of women's panties, baby!"  He shook his head and walked out of the room.

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Courtney is like a dumb cop who has all the evidence but wants the confession.  After sampling her goodies, Antonio couldnt wait to get away.  You know he was hoping that leaving her in that hot box for 24 hours would piss her off enough to leave.  No such luck with Court who cant take a hint.   If he'd been gone a week she'd still be there drinking all the wine, crying and texting.  They are my new favorite couple.  Antonio needs to tell her to "Look at the goat" and get the hell out of there for a couple weeks so she'll leave.

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On 10/15/2017 at 11:49 PM, Bibi said:

The worst thing about Larry is not that he didn't eat but that he will never get what the matter was !

He says it's cultural differences.  NO. It's nothing cultural Larry. Anywhere in this damn world, you're meant to eat when you're invited to... eat. And if ever you had some restrictions, you would tell your host before coming to their house  "sorry, I don't eat meat " or " I'm allergic to eggs".

And even in a spontaneous dinner party, you just eat whatever you can eat. I'm sorry but he knew he was going to a feast. Did he expect them to cook cheeseburgers?

If he had just figured out that bacon was actually an animal, he could have tasted the noodles which are very common, even in the US. Pork was not the only thing on that table. Some people in America have no clue what real food is like.

Larry is dumb and not even nice.  He was belligerent and careless talking about the incident. No apology, no questioning of his behavior (it's just food), and this very dismissive

" I'm not a Filipino. I'm not supposed to eat like them".  He had no real reason. Just their  food is not good enough for him, but their girls are good enough for sex. Hate him.

And can't he dress properly? These humble people were better dressed than he was. .

Not defending Larry (well, maybe just a little) but didn't he tell her no sex before marriage? So...he's not out just using her for sex, is he?

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On ‎18‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 2:56 PM, Oosala said:

But the thing about their "relationship" that I really can't stand is the way Antonio refuses, time and again, to just MAN UP and TELL her "it's not working and you have to leave."  His passive-aggressive approach is NOT working because she's jus not astute enough to realize what he's trying to do. 

Antonio looked at Corny and said I'm used to living by myself / I  need some space/  I can't be with someone else in the same apt for up to 24hours*

How to be clearer without being rude? No, actually it WAS rude. Already.  If she's still around after next Sunday, I give up.

* and sleeping on a loveseat

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2 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

This is the first thing we saw of Corny.  

 

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If this is the limit of life experiences for her, it’s not hard to see why she’s unable to read a room.

What did Courtney say or do to piss off the camera/editing crew?  Seems production hates her. 

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15 hours ago, Phoebe70 said:

AZChristian. LOLOLOL....I didn't see one, but that doesn't mean he didn't pack one!  My poor husband walked into the room right when Paul was explaining that he needed to pee in a Trojan.  The look on his face was priceless.  Later on, he walked in just as Sean was screaming, "190 pairs of women's panties, baby!"  He shook his head and walked out of the room.

My husband makes similar snide comments/expressions as he walks in and out of the room during the show.  He refuses to actually sit and watch an entire episode. Usually, it's along the lines of, "Oh my God, I can't stand these people."  And then leaves to watch football or something. 

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On 10/20/2017 at 9:18 AM, Phoebe70 said:

Darcy - Those fillers aren't doing her any favors.  She looked horrible coming off that plane.  No way does she look 42. 

I am 52 and I think I look younger than Darcy.  (I posted a wedding pic of myself over in the Four Weddings and Say Yes to the Dress forum if anyone wants to agree or disagree.)

 

On 10/20/2017 at 9:18 AM, Phoebe70 said:

I'm ashamed to admit this, but here goes....I bought this season on Amazon for $19.99.

Do NOT be ashamed - I envy you!  I want a DVD collection of "Four Weddings" so no judgement here.

Paul - just drop and run.  Abby is a 20 year old YOUNG girl.  Just.....stop.

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