S12.E05: Moving In, Moving On And Moving Fast

[yogi2014L]

1 minute ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

When my sister gave birth to triplets, I shoo'd people away for the most part; esp. early on! We didn't need these germy carriers "cooo'n" and "awww'n" over those preemies! When we did allow people in, I had them take off their shoes and to wash up! They had several episodes with breathing problems until they started school; esp. Amira in the pink! They're 14 now and about to start HS! ;-)

Aww they are adorable! I don't remember how old my niece was for the sip and see, but she was past the newborn stage, I think she was nearly 6 months or something

 

But yeah I would be worried with a houseful of strangers and any newborn, especially a preemie!

[ivygirl]

12 minutes ago, yogi2014L said:

Sip and see if when you have a little party with some drinks and snacks so people can come meet the baby ( people not close enough in your circles to be at the hospital or stop by for a house visit)

I believe its a southern thing. I only know about it because my SIL ( who is from the south) had one for my niece. We don't do them up here in chicago suburbs

Thanks for reminding me where I'd heard if this before... Southern Charm. I knew it was a Bravo show...

[enchantingmonkey]

11 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

Can't wait until Vicki throws one of her screaming fits in front of  Peggy.  Wonder if she will shut Vicki's lips?

Can you imagine?  I'd love to see Peggy squeezing Vicki's lips shut play out but suspect it will never happen.  The only reason Peggy put her hand on Meghan's lips was because she knew she could get away with it.  

On WWHL, Meghan explained that she had only just met Peggy that night.  

[Bronzedog]

Let me tell you about food/meals in this American household-fast and easy.  The end.

[Quilty]

BORING! We need new bitches. Even the new one is dull. Ooooahhh a yellow car. Who cares

[RedheadZombie]

33 minutes ago, enchantingmonkey said:

Can you imagine?  I'd love to see Peggy squeezing Vicki's lips shut play out but suspect it will never happen.  The only reason Peggy put her hand on Meghan's lips was because she knew she could get away with it.  

On WWHL, Meghan explained that she had only just met Peggy that night.  

She also said at first she thought Peggy was fixing her smudged lipstick.  And she thought, how nice . . . .

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

Hmmm, so you're one of those people that it'll never be enough apologies and have this need for Vicki to bow and scrape for a little while longer? I wish I was in that position! After the 1st apology and it wasn't enough for those b!tches, I'd give them the Rosie O, "sit and spin!" I have little respect for people like that! If you don't want to be bothered, say that and move on! Shannon, Meghan, and Tamra still can't move on, living with something from 2 seasons ago! That's pathetic in so many ways! ;-(

Well, Yes, Vicki does apologize then she takes them back and says she "did nothing wrong" each and every time, so she negates any and all apologies she gives! LOL I, myself, have absolutely zero respect for people that lie about having cancer and try to scam those that really have cancer to make a buck selling snake oil and insurance, but, hey, that's just me. ;)

Edited August 8, 2017 by WireWrap

[breezy424]

What a snooze fest.  The only thing I got out of this is that wow, Jim loves his daughter and I give him full credit cause I couldn't stand the guy last season.

No.  You don't put your fingers on someones lips in an attempt to tell them to zip it.

Kelly isn't funny and she's just plain boring.  Leave your mother alone and the rest of the bs.

Vicki - yawn.  Trying to hard for a storyline when you ask your son about birth control.  How awkward.

Sorry Lydia, a vasectomy isn't getting your balls cut off.  But apparently God is ok with it.  WTF.

Thank God, Sweet Home Oklahoma was on next.  At least I could laugh and yep, moving is a big deal.  This show is so much better and relate able than Orange County.

[answerphone]

Oh, Lydia.    You are driving me bat sh#t crazy with your flailing arms, conservative Christian talk and itsy bitsy teeny weenie bikinis.?

[Misslindsey]

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Vicki has absolutely no self awareness. She's still denying that she ever did anything to anyone. She acts like she's the victim in all situations.

This. Pretty much every time Vicki is on screen talking I am muttering bullshit. So are TPTB trying to redeem her by Peggy being her friend and the whole "I'm sorry" montage. She lied about cancer and now acts like the victim. I am disgusted that she is still on the show. I forgot the comment Vicki made about her last relationship. I just know I rolled my eyes when she said it though. Michael generally looks at Vicki the way I feel about her.

If Kelly's mom wants to spend her retirement watching television who cares. If she is content doing things on her own that is her prerogative it isn't hurting Kelly.

Seriously Kelly, there is not a puppet master. Just because people do not like her does not mean they are being manipulated into not like Kelly. It is very easy to dislike Kelly, I do not need help to do so. Also, if Kelly knows she lashes out when she gets angry why doesn't she take steps to remedy that? She will just do it and apologize, then do it again. I do not know how the others can stand to be in a room with Kelly and Vicki. I can barely stand to watch them on television, I would be all Shannon crazy with a dash of RHOA's Porsha, and I am not a violent person.

Peggy is such a barrel of fun. I do not mind low key personalities on these shows, but Peggy is extremely low key. It is kind of boring to watch. If she put her fingers on my mouth like she did to Meghan she would be getting an earful. If it was one of my close friends and we were joking around then I would be okay with it, but to someone I just met and do not know well then I would be annoyed.

Whoever said upthread that Lydia acts like a Duggar girl is so right. That sex talk was so cringeworthy. That kid just wanted to go in the water and play. The reason they were talking to the kid about sex is because he said something about a sexy woman or something? I missed the reasoning onto why they decided to talk to the kid about sex.

Please Tamra and Shannon hold your ground and do not give into Vicki. I may have my issues with both of them, but if the continue to not be friends with Vicki it will be a win in my book.

I am barely hanging on to watching this season. My lack of anything to watch during the summer is the only reason why I keep tuning in. If they got rid of Kelly and Vicki I might be more interested.

Did everyone know that Peggy is Armenian? It is never mentioned. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by Misslindsey

[Wierzbowski]

I've watched this show since the beginning but I may be out. It's excruciatingly dull. Is it because the women have no real connection to each other? Because the "plots" are so obviously contrived? Because the women have not a shade of authenticity or depth? I don't know. But I need to break my habit of watching this-- time to start reading Mondays!

[tabloidlover]

This season is terrible!   What the hell happened?  

Also - Kelly needs to mind her own business and respect her mom's wishes.   She doesn't want to be social anymore, WHO CARES??   Her retirement plan sounds right up my alley (aside from living with Kelly of course)

[WireWrap]

Spot on and fast recap! LOL   http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/rhoc-recap-season-12-episode-5.html

[Cheetosandchoc]

    I'm fifteen minutes in and just don't care. It's like a chore to watch. Lydia and her "sex talk" yeah great you have the talk with your kids. Or more you start the conversation then through your husband under the bus. It's inappropriate on camera. Basically you were virgins. Great awesome, you are so special. Jesus didn't make sex, it was around way before him. At least you acknowledge you don't know he loves sex because he never had it. Ugh. I'm so annoyed by her. 

    Peggy, don't care. I want to care but I don't.

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, Bronzedog said:

I laughed, and totally agreed, when Tamra said sometimes you look at a baby and think, "ooooo, maybe that one's not done yet."   True that.

Hubby's ugly baby go to is "He's/She's remarkable!

[Lizzing]

I want to send a Coupon Cabinet Guy sized basket of flowers to whomever in the editing bay decided to insert the dropping coconut scene into the "Lydia confuses vasectomy with castration" discussion with her husbland.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Lizzing

[yourmomiseasy]

2 hours ago, sandyskyblue said:

Agree Poeticlicensed!  Was never a fan of Meghan's but the only reason I am tuning in this season is to see baby Aspen, what a cutie she is!  I could watch Aspen and Jimmy all day long! On another note, I have heard of a Slip and Slide and a Sit and Spin, but not a Sip and See....I'm in the mid-west, maybe that's why....

We have them in California but usually when you don't have a baby shower for some reason like it's a second baby or a difficult pregnancy etc.

I was living for Jerri Blank having no time for Kelly's BS at the senior center and was like "she's totally my favorite."  Then I remembered that she raised a couple of deranged assholes and can't actually be that great.  If just Kelly was a mess I might give her a pass, but Kelly's brother is just as bad, so I assume bad parenting at least played a minor part.

I forgot to mention, Meghan looks great in her non-Ice Capades TH look.

Edited August 8, 2017 by yourmomiseasy

[Giselle]

12 minutes ago, Cheetosandchoc said:

    I'm fifteen minutes in and just don't care. It's like a chore to watch. Lydia and her "sex talk" yeah great you have the talk with your kids. Or more you start the conversation then through your husband under the bus. It's inappropriate on camera. Basically you were virgins. Great awesome, you are so special. Jesus didn't make sex, it was around way before him. At least you acknowledge you don't know he loves sex because he never had it. Ugh. I'm so annoyed by her. 

    Peggy, don't care. I want to care but I don't.

Well Vicki sold wine, vodka, and other junk, Gretchen sold crappy purses and make up and Lynn sold hand crafted cuffs made from Michael's markdowns. Mayby Lydia can sell prayer cloths and Bible bling.

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, enchantingmonkey said:

Can you imagine?  I'd love to see Peggy squeezing Vicki's lips shut play out but suspect it will never happen.  The only reason Peggy put her hand on Meghan's lips was because she knew she could get away with it.  

On WWHL, Meghan explained that she had only just met Peggy that night.  

Oh no she didn't! Mastectomy or not I would have hard slapped her away.

[WireWrap]

28 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Well Vicki sold wine, vodka, and other junk, Gretchen sold crappy purses and make up and Lynn sold hand crafted cuffs made from Michael's markdowns. Mayby Lydia can sell prayer cloths and Bible bling.

She is schilling that  rag mag and jewelry! LOL  https://oclydia.com/

Edited August 8, 2017 by WireWrap

[Box305]

I kind of want to break off Lydia's flailing arms and hit her with them. Is that wrong? She bugs me. And her whole Jesus made sex TH was cringe worthy. Even the correction was stupid. Just shut up. 

Baby Aspen is adorable. 

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Wasn't done

[yourmomiseasy]

My dog flails around like Lydia when she wants to play, but it's cute when she does it.

[Hockey Addict]

If I were Meghan, I would have stepped back and said this "Uh, Peggy? I don't know what you do in Armenia but here in this country grabbing someone like this *grabs Peggy's lips* will get you your ass beat". 

Kelly needs a storyline IMO, hence the mom thing.

Lydia? The sex talk for an eight year old? Wouldnt it have been better to tell said child we don't need to talk about that you are eight and leave it there?

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, Misslindsey said:

 

Whoever said upthread that Lydia acts like a Duggar girl is so right. That sex talk was so cringeworthy. That kid just wanted to go in the water and play. The reason they were talking to the kid about sex is because he said something about a sexy woman or something? I missed the reasoning onto why they decided to talk to the kid about sex.

 

I wonder if he heard it from Daddy.

[CrinkleCutCat]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Petunia13]

Meghan is right though. The point of an apology isn't expecting something in return. 

[Teddybear]

Meghan looked and acted really weird on WWHL.   

I've never been so bored with a season, as many others have commented.  If the Housewives franchise has taught me anything, the show is much more enjoyable when everyone gets along---for example RHONY---you can tell they all like each other (for the most part).  On this show, I don't believe anyone really likes each other aside from having to film with one another.  

[yourmomiseasy]

At least Peggy's new Lambo didn't get the Cruella deVille paint job.

[Petunia13]

I like to think of Peggy's car as an asymmetrical skunk mobile. 

[ivygirl]

2 hours ago, Hockey Addict said:

Lydia? The sex talk for an eight year old? Wouldnt it have been better to tell said child we don't need to talk about that you are eight and leave it there?

This was just so, so odd.

A) if it's so private, why have this conversation on TV?

B) Why do I feel like this whole thing was cooked up as a way for Lydia to talk about how much sex she's having? 

C) Again, if it's so private, why discuss this on TV?

Edited August 8, 2017 by ivygirl
Removing unnecessary grumpy talk

[Cheetosandchoc]

31 minutes ago, ivygirl said:

This was just so, so odd.

A) if it's so private, why have this conversation on TV?

B) Why do I feel like this whole thing was cooked up as a way for Lydia to talk about how much sex she's having? 

C) Again, if it's so private, why discuss this on TV?

     I think it was contrived not just to talk about how much sex she is having but she has Christian sex, and Jesus loves her special Christian sex, and she was a virgin when she married, because, in case you didn't know, she is a Christian.

[ivygirl]

6 minutes ago, Cheetosandchoc said:

     I think it was contrived not just to talk about how much sex she is having but she has Christian sex, and Jesus loves her special Christian sex, and she was a virgin when she married, because, in case you didn't know, she is a Christian.

And then Peggy's all, "Did you know Armenians were the first virgins?"

[PickleDeeDee]

4 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I was living for Jerri Blank having no time for Kelly's BS at the senior center and was like "she's totally my favorite."  Then I remembered that she raised a couple of deranged assholes and can't actually be that great.  If just Kelly was a mess I might give her a pass, but Kelly's brother is just as bad, so I assume bad parenting at least played a minor part.

That reminds me, does Kelly's brother still live with her? I don't recall seeing him this season.

Terrifying to think that Lydia really believes a vasectomy requires removing the man's TESTICLES!  And now she has Peggy convinced THEY (Non-Armenians) castrate their men, ha ha ha! 

[bagger]

7 hours ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

Hmmm, so you're one of those people that it'll never be enough apologies and have this need for Vicki to bow and scrape for a little while longer? I wish I was in that position! After the 1st apology and it wasn't enough for those b!tches, I'd give them the Rosie O, "sit and spin!" I have little respect for people like that! If you don't want to be bothered, say that and move on! Shannon, Meghan, and Tamra still can't move on, living with something from 2 seasons ago! That's pathetic in so many ways! ;-(

Yes I am one of those people that believes that vicki gives non-apologies. 

"I'm sorry if you feel attacked but you started it." Is NOT an apology so yeah, I'm one of those people.

[VedaPierce]

7 hours ago, Avon.Blakes7 said:

When my sister gave birth to triplets, I shoo'd people away for the most part; esp. early on! We didn't need these germy carriers "cooo'n" and "awww'n" over those preemies! When we did allow people in, I had them take off their shoes and to wash up! They had several episodes with breathing problems until they started school; esp. Amira in the pink! They're 14 now and about to start HS! ;-)

Such beautiful girls! Thank you for sharing! What a treat to see a snippet of a fellow-poster's life, and not just read their thoughts. Love! :)

7 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Thanks for reminding me where I'd heard if this before... Southern Charm. I knew it was a Bravo show...

Phaedra had the first one years ago for her first child and it was a hoot. Lots of snark. That was the first time I ever heard of a sip n see.

[VedaPierce]

7 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Let me tell you about food/meals in this American household-fast and easy.  The end.

That food looked so unappealing. Sorry. And I'm not a picky eater by any means. My fave is Indian and Persian. Also love Greek and am Russian and they have some crazy food but could not decipher what Peggy's family was eating. What was the white stuff on the plate, and why was it steaming?

Edited August 8, 2017 by VedaPierce

[dosodog]

5 hours ago, Giselle said:

Hubby's ugly baby go to is "He's/She's remarkable!

I've always liked Barbara Walters go to phrase.

It's a baby!

[bagger]

5 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

My dog flails around like Lydia when she wants to play, but it's cute when she does it.

Maybe if her husband scratched her belly she would stop?

[NeverLate]

I loved the, what's a sexy lady mean , talk. .
He could care less, but between Lydia and Vicki asking, I thought it was my sex ed class..
Peggy sure cleans up well, she has awful stringy extensions , I am not enamoured with Lamborghini's, and yellow is the worst colour.She's okay, better than that Dodd woman.
who looks like hell. When she took her mother to the seniors centre, it was more about her boring husband than her poor mother, she totally embarrassed herself and her mother. Tamra is friendly to their faces, and gives little digs when she's on her own
Love Meghan, Jim and the baby. Peggy, don't put your fingers on anyone's lips, try that on Vicki when she rants! I bet she bites...

Edited August 8, 2017 by Hello Lady

[Chit Chat]

I'm from the south and I had never heard of a 'sip and see' until I saw it spoofed on the show 'Odd Mom Out,' which is based in NYC.  I thought it was a northern thing!  It was funny how the main character in that show told people that they were "a sippin' and a seein'" (Jill Kargman's delivery of the line is funnier than how it comes across on paper.)   Ever since I saw it spoofed, I can't help but laugh at the notion of it.  YMMV.

Well, it looks like Vicki has Peggy convinced that she's the innocent party in all of the drama that has gone down the past few years.  I really hated that Peggy shushed Meghan.  That was rude, especially since she doesn't know the history of how badly Vicki has treated Meghan .  Also,  I wish Kelly would just leave her mother be.  The woman worked all of those years (in a hospital, IIRC), and she is probably enjoying some peace and quiet.  Not everyone has to have a group of people around them in order to be happy.  She's probably very content not having to deal with people right now.  When and if she wants to be social, she'll find her way. 

[Mindthinkr]

She might not have been our favorite HW but so much has left with Heather. The house porn (custom ice cubes and decorating ad nauseum), her wardrobe and her quips to the other women about how they handled themselves in situations. I can still laugh at her finger telling Kelly to leave the Japanese restaurant. She also hosted lovely dinner parties and was always ready to call an ambulance for when she thought that they other ladies were becoming mental. I do not think that Peggy is going to cut it as a replacement. She may have all those cars but she whines in the kitchen as (it looks like) she's serving sweet potatoes cooked in a crock pot. Yes, you keep feeding us that line about cooking for you family with love Peggy because you're Armenian. I've seen much better food porn on SOS (ok, they're Persian but their spreads were mouth watering). This show is slowing down to the end of its carnival ride. Almost time to get off. 

[Mindthinkr]

44 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

That food looked so unappealing. Sorry. And I'm not a picky eater by any means. My fave is Indian and Persian. Also love Greek and am Russian and they have some crazy food but could not decipher what Peggy's family was eating. What was the white stuff on the plate, and why was it steaming?

Steamed sweet potatoes? I think this but then what would have been up with the green one...unless it was a zucchini. 

Yes, sell a car and get a chef. At least when the other ladies come over get a caterer. 

[ghoulina]

The opening shot was typical Vicki. She's warning her grandson not to hit "Nana" with the ball.....then she freaking hits him! That's life with Vicki. She'll act like the victim, but she's really going to get YOU. How delicious was it watching her unpack all her busted awards? Thanks, Bravo, for the stumbling flashback! 

What was UP with Megan's clothing choices this episode? First she stepped through a time portal into 1996 with that butterfly blouse. But then it appears that her clothes started fusing together in the wash. One of her sweatshirts got fused with a striped blouse. And just prior to the car party a simple, off the shoulder, white dress somehow got fused to a black turtleneck. I think she needs to make sure that "nanny" isn't fucking with her wardrobe. (Her baby is beyond adorable, though.)

Bravo seriously followed Lydia all the way to Hawaii? By herself? To hear awkward family conversations? Waste of money, if you ask me. I was NOT impressed with their "sex" talk. I still don't think Stirling (or whatever-the-fuck his name is) knows WHAT sex is. He knows it's "private" and "God created it", but.....what exactly is it? I know it's awkward, but damn. Also, maybe if women wouldn't refer to a vasectomy as "chopping your balls off", men would be a lot more open to getting it done. 

So now Kelly is trying to force Magda into a senior living facility. It doesn't seem like grandma wants to go. Does Kelly REALLY want her to have a "life"? Or does she want her out of HER house? At any rate, the fighting in front of that coordinator was super awkward. 

I'm all about Megan and her realness. Lydia can take a seat with her "I wasn't mentally prepared at the Quiet Woman". To quote Megan King Edmonds - "Yes, you were". She CALLED Kelly. She TOLD her they were going there. No amount of denial will convince me that wasn't a total set-up. 

At any rate, Peggy, your lip pinch will never be on par with Dorinda's "CLIP!" But nice try.  

[bichonblitz]

9 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

While many here liked to say that Edmonds was going to abandon Meghan and the baby, Meghan always insisted he was a great father.  Seems she was right.

She also said he's out of town now more than ever so I'm not gonna give him a pat on the back for the little time he is home and giving the baby some attention.

[SweetieDarling]

6 hours ago, Giselle said:

Hubby's ugly baby go to is "He's/She's remarkable!

We use "breathtaking"

[bichonblitz]

I bet Tamra curses the day she decided to pick sides with Shannon. Those two are so boring together and Tamra is missing out on all the fun! (Lamborghini party, whoo hoo!).  

Meghan was totally trying to start some shit with Vicki at the party. I, for one, am glad Peggy zipped her up. Go back to your baby, Meghan.  

If I were the producers or who ever is in charge of these franchises, I would tell them all that who ever doesn't agree to film together is OUT. Cause this shit ain't working!

Edited August 8, 2017 by bichonblitz

[VedaPierce]

When I was in the fourth grade, I had a contaminated tuna fish sandwich for lunch. I got so sick from the food poisoning, that I couldn't stomache the thought of tuna fish for years. I couldn't look at it or think about it. It always made me queasy. That's how I feel about Vickie now. She's the food poisoning of the real housewives. I just can't see her in any setting without thinking about her cancer lies from two seasons ago. She's trying so hard to get back to where she was. But to me, she is so tainted, I just can't listen to her or connect with her on any level. She can claim that she apologized profusely, but she really hasn't. Not really. Not to everyone in one group. She never really owned up to what she did sincerely. but that doesn't even matter. I just can't get over that lie. I think at her core, she's not a very good person. And it all came out that season. 

[ghoulina]

8 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Well, Yes, Vicki does apologize then she takes them back and says she "did nothing wrong" each and every time, so she negates any and all apologies she gives! LOL I, myself, have absolutely zero respect for people that lie about having cancer and try to scam those that really have cancer to make a buck selling snake oil and insurance, but, hey, that's just me. ;)

Yes. Vicki's apologies are worthless, because she never actually changes the horrible shit she does. 

 

8 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

Whoever said upthread that Lydia acts like a Duggar girl is so right. That sex talk was so cringeworthy. That kid just wanted to go in the water and play. The reason they were talking to the kid about sex is because he said something about a sexy woman or something? I missed the reasoning onto why they decided to talk to the kid about sex.

The younger brother told them that Sterling used the phrase, "sexy woman", so they felt they needed to address it. Except....umm....they never did. I never heard a definition of "sexy woman". I never even really heard a legit definition of SEX. Not that I want to on camera. But when my 7-year-old asked, a few months back, how come he doesn't have a baby when he's been in a house with girls - I told him and his 9-year-old brother about intercourse and sperm and all that. I didn't go TOO far into detail, but I didn't rely on "it's a private thing that God created, the end". Her kids, so whatever. But if Sterling knocks some girl up at church camp because he still has no idea what sex is, don't be surprised. 

 

6 hours ago, Hockey Addict said:

Lydia? The sex talk for an eight year old? Wouldnt it have been better to tell said child we don't need to talk about that you are eight and leave it there?

To each their own,  but I've never told my kids they're too young to hear something. I think 8 is a fine age. And I'm of the belief, if they ask, they are old enough to know. Okay, Sterling didn't technically ask, so maybe they didn't need to bring it up at all. But I don't think it's too young. You can tailor the conversation to fit their maturity level. My issue was they didn't really explain the topic it all, just made vague references to privacy and God. 

 

6 hours ago, Giselle said:

I wonder if he heard it from Daddy.

The way those women talk, he totally could have heard it from Lydia and/or one of her friends. Every time they gather together they start kissing each other's asses about how great an outfit is or how "sexy" they look. He could have heard it anywhere really. 

 

37 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

She also said he's out of town now more than ever so I'm not gonna give him a pat on the back for the little time he is home and giving the baby some attention.

Well, he's working. To put a roof over their heads. He certainly wouldn't be the first parent whose job has them away from home a lot. Military members are gone for months at a time. Is it ideal? No. But I don't think it makes one a bad parent. 

[VedaPierce]

Talking to your child about sex is an important conversation to have... And NOT ON CAMERA! Lydia and Dutch showed themselves to be two snickering assholes in the way they exploited their kids' natural curiosity on television, they embarrassed him and they should be ashamed of their stupid decision to do that. Morons. 

[bichonblitz]

2 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Well, he's working. To put a roof over their heads. He certainly wouldn't be the first parent whose job has them away from home a lot. Military members are gone for months at a time. Is it ideal? No. But I don't think it makes one a bad parent. 

This is true, however, it really bothered Meghan that he was away from home before she had the baby, and it bothers her enough now to mention it again and I don't think just because the guy pays attention to the baby when he is home that he is doing anything any other dad wouldn't do.  What makes people think he's so great with Aspen?