xwordfanatik July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, floridamom said: Don't Austin and Joy realize that that's not appropriate to sit like that around others? They seem to be copying the original exhibitionist couple, Boob and Meeeechelle. Will dry humping during mini golf be next?? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489636
Angeltoes July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 When Daphne asked what they enjoyed most about their honeymoon, I wish Ben had drawn a picture of two stick figures banging each other (with the girl on top) on a mini golf course. Jim Bob's head would explode. Switzerland, Rome and Australia were wasted on these kids. All they cared about was "let's get physical...physical" and they would have been just as dreamy-eyed if their honeymoons had been at the Motel 6 in Hooterville. When they were asked who hogs the covers in bed, Joy comfortably says,"Oh, he's a heater and I'm a heater..." She said that as casually as someone who's been married for ten years instead of ten minutes. If Jill had been there, she would have gasped and said,"Y'all sleep in the SAME BED? I'm telling Pops!" 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489639
xwordfanatik July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Maya said: I think we all need to give a moment of thanks that Derek wasn't playing this game. He thinks he's so clever and hilarious under normal circumstances, can you imagine him unleashed in a situation like this? The way Drippy Derek horned in on Jill's partner at Jessa's wedding was really a dick move. Drippy is an obnoxious turd. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489640
woodscommaelle July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, LolaGeek said: Longtime reader, second time poster, wanted to share this GIF I made because... wth Joy? Nothing she does seems natural. I feel like she's acting the way she 'thinks' she should be acting. Maybe. *I really need to spend less time thinking/talking/reading about these people and finding a new job, but, priorities ?.* Edited July 25, 2017 by woodscommaelle 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489653
DangerousMinds July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Married or not, isn't their belief that it is a "sin" to defraud others? What if some single guy out there gets turned on by Joy's flirtatious, handy behavior? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489728
BitterApple July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 I know the Joy/Austin PDA wasn't the most appropriate thing, but I'm a little relieved she's so comfortable and happy. I was afraid she being dragged down the aisle against her will. I didn't watch the after show, but Austin seems like a decent guy and not as stiff as he came off in his first few appearances. I can see why Jessa and Bin are getting on each other's last nerve. They're home all day in an overstuffed shoebox of a house with two babies. If that was my life, I'd be on a short fuse as well. I love my husband dearly, but I think there's something to be said for having a little breathing room. Of course, that occurs with most couples naturally because most couples work for a living. The Duggar couples have to be together 24/7 lest the men get defrauded by a woman on the street wearing sandals. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489739
madpsych78 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Angeltoes said: When Daphne asked what they enjoyed most about their honeymoon, I wish Ben had drawn a picture of two stick figures banging each other (with the girl on top) on a mini golf course. Jim Bob's head would explode. Switzerland, Rome and Australia were wasted on these kids. All they cared about was "let's get physical...physical" and they would have been just as dreamy-eyed if their honeymoons had been at the Motel 6 in Hooterville. When they were asked who hogs the covers in bed, Joy comfortably says,"Oh, he's a heater and I'm a heater..." She said that as casually as someone who's been married for ten years instead of ten minutes. If Jill had been there, she would have gasped and said,"Y'all sleep in the SAME BED? I'm telling Pops!" Can you imagine if Jill and Derick participated? Honestly, how do you think Jill would have reacted to the bed question? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489741
Popular Post Marigold July 25, 2017 Popular Post Share July 25, 2017 Joy is very, very 19 years old in that clip. She is goofing around like a college/high school girl. They would be fine if they were hanging out with a couple of friends, watching TV, eating pizza and laughing. It's just absurd that she is ON TV DOING IT and has no clue that it's not appropriate. The Duggar's image of modesty clashes with the image of Joy sitting on her husband's dick, with cameras rolling. The Duggars lack a lot of social skills and this is a perfect display of it. No one taught me, or any of us, not to sit on a man's dick or close to his dick in front of family with TV cameras rolling but somehow we all know instinctively that it's not a good way to sit. I'm not sure what to say about Austin. There were two people involved in this crotch situation. Austin is older and should know better...he should've gently nudged Joy off his crotch and gotten into a more appropriate seated position. (not sure I've ever written the word "dick" on a public forum but this IS the Duggars and they bring out the modesty in all of us!) 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489767
mimionthebeach July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 4 hours ago, LolaGeek said: Longtime reader, second time poster, wanted to share this GIF I made because... wth Joy? Each time I watch this, I'm trying to figure out her movements. To me it looks like she's wearing one of those little "bullets" and Austin is messing with the remote. And THAT'S what's funny! 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489835
mimionthebeach July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 3 hours ago, humbleopinion said: Giving Joy a pass because you could always catch glimpses of her muttering throughout the years...she has always had things to say, funny or not, but no one wanted or cared to hear them. I noticed this about Joy once Jill was married and she was paired with Jana for the talking heads. She made Jana laugh all the time. Jana always appeared so guarded with Jill.... And Jill was never funny. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489871
madpsych78 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Yeah, I was thinking that one of the reasons why everyone seemed more relaxed during both after shows was because Jill wasn't present. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489899
xwordfanatik July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Favorite answer? Jeremy has a FEAR of HALITOSIS! Boob, do you know he meant YOU??? LOL 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489909
Barb23 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 If Kelly Bates would have been there, you know she would have had had at least one grandbaby, if not both of them on her lap. MEchelle kept looking at Spurge & Henry like they were strangers. Poor Ben...I betcha Jessa was a little perturbed that even working on answers ahead of time, Ben didn't get it. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489928
TeaTV July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 15 hours ago, TigerLily20 said: I feel like Jessa is trying to give Ben the answers in code by blinking at him............. I haven't even seen this ep yet but I LOLd on the visual in my head of that! 2 hours ago, riverblue22 said: Why would they? Based on the mini golf display by Boob, Joy probably saw lots of inappropriate behavior from her parents. And what kind of Boob commentary went along with the posted menstrual chart? Years ago, in front of all his kids and with the cameras rolling, JB was talking about how he and MEchelle were trying to have more kids but couldn't and he added, "we're sure having fun trying though" which I think ties into the whole "we're so holy and modest" theme where they really don't realize what is and isn't appropriate PDA behaviour outside of their cult/bubble/social group. Even at the age of 11 or 12 I would have realized my dad was talking about having sex with my mom and that's unappropriate for a father to say in front of his children or, in front of anyone really other than his wife imo. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489933
ginger90 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 How about the answers to the "selfless" question? Taking out the trash, cleaning hair from drains........... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489967
Marigold July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Jim Bob is the ring leader with the inappropriate talk and actions (dry humping from behind?) To me, Michelle often looks uncomfortable with Jim Bob's antics and tries to laugh it off but she does not think he is funny at all. I think she is slightly flattered but wishes he would cut it out in public. I grew up IFB (lite) and was IFB as an adult. I have never ever seen such nonsense as Jim Bob. He is like a horny goat 24/7 and he wants everyone to know that they are having wild, hot sex. There is truly something wrong with Jim Bob's head. The kidults must have such impaired sexual development from such bizarre parenting, this obsession with purity mixed with parents dry humping on TV. You know this takes my mind over to Josh but I really don't want to go down that Pervert Road today. You guys can fill in the blanks on that one... 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3489971
sheshark July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Did I dream about the unusually placed bible study question or was it cut by Gothard rules. I do know that MEchelle and Boob had bible study in a bathtub. FML. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490005
Angeltoes July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 *passes brain bleach around to all* 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490008
Genevrier July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, mimionthebeach said: Each time I watch this, I'm trying to figure out her movements. To me it looks like she's wearing one of those little "bullets" and Austin is messing with the remote. And THAT'S what's funny! There is A LOT more pornography on this forum than I was expecting. ? Edited July 26, 2017 by Genevrier 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490015
humbleopinion July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Austin is giving Joy a "happy zappy" with the bullet remote app on his phone. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490070
cereality July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 How can it possibly be comfortable for Austin to have Joy sit right THERE?! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490071
Natalie68 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 4 hours ago, bichonblitz said: Yes, I was pleasantly surprised the guy has a great personality. Not like a robot which is portrayed on the show. I was also surprised they all agreed Derek and Jill showed the most PDA of them all. That's something else we don't see on the show. I thought it odd that Jimboob predicted Joy and Austin would be the next to have a baby. The look on Jinge and Jer's face was priceless. I don't think Jer is all that fond of Jimboob and vice versa. Jana is sooo pretty. And for that we are thankful! They have the least amount of spark than any of the married sibs and seem very clumsy from what we have seen. 4 hours ago, humbleopinion said: Giving Joy a pass because you could always catch glimpses of her muttering throughout the years...she has always had things to say, funny or not, but no one wanted or cared to hear them. Austin is a boy in love/lust and will listen to anything...look at that smile on his face...he is in that sex fog/haze... hearing blah blah blah blah...and thinking of last night's sexy time and tonight's sexy time... EnJOY the honeymoon phase ... Well she is also sitting in a pretty, um, comfortable spot for him. Of course he has a smile! He has legal wood! 1 hour ago, mimionthebeach said: Each time I watch this, I'm trying to figure out her movements. To me it looks like she's wearing one of those little "bullets" and Austin is messing with the remote. And THAT'S what's funny! Between you and @marigold above you I am laughing big time. It does look like he's got the controller. HA! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490086
Annb67 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: How about the answers to the "selfless" question? Taking out the trash, cleaning hair from drains........... I wanted someone to say that he gives but I don't always have to give it back. Off to the prayer closet....again. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490252
Marigold July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 These Duggars crack me up. For a family who claims to be so modest, they sure do a lot of nasty. On camera. I had to yell "Nike" so my teen daughter didn't see Joy side riding Austin. ;) (Josh is excluded in this comment-that does NOT crack me up) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490531
hershey4 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 I am clearly in the minority, but I thought Jinger looked very uncomfortable throughout the whole show. Jeremy looked much more relaxed, to me. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490535
Churchhoney July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 18 hours ago, flyingdi said: I think Jessa is just nervous in 1. Situations she can't control. 2. Being with/talking to people she hasn't known for years. 3. Any situation where she'll be embarrassed. 4. Any situation where she won't know how to respond. For all Jessa's bitchiness, I don't think Jinger is the only Duggar with self esteem problems. I think it's hard to tell whether Jessa has self-esteem issues or not. What she definitely has, though, is fear -- of just about everything -- and it's perfectly clear where she gets it. They've been raised in near-total isolation from anybody not just like them, and they've been raised to fear everybody and everything, see the entire outside world including normal stuff like school and jobs as critical threats to their chance for eternal life, and consider most people as the equivalent of devils trying to bring them down. Plus, they have almost no experience of anything that they don't do pretty much every single day and even less experience of doing anything when they're not in the middle of a huge Duggar-slime-mold-mass. If there were ever a life that would turn you into a total control freak who's terrified of surprises, strangers and strangers getting the chance to look down on you, that life would be it. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490683
sATL July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 19 hours ago, Wheels08 said: SMama- Jim Bob and Mechelle were talking about how many grandkids they could have and Jim Bob said that maybe a joy and Austin would be the next ones to have a baby and then someone said or Jeremy and Jinger. And Jim Bob said something like oh yeah or Jeremy and Jinger. Ewww... Please don't tell me JB has an ovulation calendar and/or a baby pool running on who will produce the next offspring. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490854
GeeGolly July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Did JB say Joy and Austin are next to have a baby because they already know that Jinger is pregnant? They've been married 8 months now and it seems odd that JB mentioned Joy and not her. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490900
Mindthinkr July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Annb67 said: I wanted someone to say that he gives but I don't always have to give it back. Off to the prayer closet....again. Did you see War Room and now feel guilty? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490917
flyingdi July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 10 hours ago, LolaGeek said: Longtime reader, second time poster, wanted to share this GIF I made because... wth Joy? Did Joy and Austin pulll this maneuver with her parents still in the studio? Cause Eww! Yuck! "Look, Ma, no hands!". Eww! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490918
Wheels08 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 sATL- This is Jimbob he probably does 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490920
JocelynCavanaugh July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: Did JB say Joy and Austin are next to have a baby because they already know that Jinger is pregnant? They've been married 8 months now and it seems odd that JB mentioned Joy and not her. Quick, everybody knock on wood, throw salt over your shoulders, say a Hail Mary, whatever it takes to un-jinx this!!! I'm holding out hope that Jinger waits 5+ years, then has 2-3 nicely spaced kids she actually wants. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3490957
Absolom July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 Jeremy didn't sound like he was all that excited about the gory detail side of parenthood. It sounds to me like he'd be quite happy to put it off two or three more years. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491002
TeaTV July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Absolom said: Jeremy didn't sound like he was all that excited about the gory detail side of parenthood. It sounds to me like he'd be quite happy to put it off two or three more years. Jeremy didn't sound like he was all that excited about the gory detail side of parenthood. It sounds to me like he'd be quite happy to put pull it out off two or three more years. FTFY :D (sorrynotsorry I couldn't resist) 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491015
Fuzzysox July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 5 hours ago, cereality said: How can it possibly be comfortable for Austin to have Joy sit right THERE?! After not being able to really date and touch a girl until he got married I'm pretty sure any kind of contact is not making him cringe. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491044
magpye29 July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 5 hours ago, cereality said: How can it possibly be comfortable for Austin to have Joy sit right THERE?! Did you see the smirk on his face? He's loving it! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491074
Celia Rubenstein July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 Why the hell is she sitting on him like that? I don't think I've ever seen a person sit on someone else's lap when they were lying down. I've had my little dog come and sit on me when I am stretched out on the couch. Never another person. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491289
Marigold July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 First the Fifty Shades of Gray blindfold proposal and now the dick sit side straddle. Maybe Joy and Austin are kinda freaky? ;) 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491313
Churchhoney July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Marigold said: First the Fifty Shades of Gray blindfold proposal and now the dick sit side straddle. Maybe Joy and Austin are kinda freaky? ;) you go, kids 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491389
Genevrier July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 I just realized that everybody said Jill and Derick are the most PDA of the couples-with Joy and Austin present. I am hard pressed to think of what sort of behavior could surpass the antics of young Mr. and Mrs. House-flipper. And while I'm thinking about matters better left un-thought about, I wonder how many of their houses will get 'christened' on the way to being flipped. (Sorry. I believe a bottle of brain bleach was being passed around earlier.) 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491509
Marigold July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Genevrier said: I just realized that everybody said Jill and Derick are the most PDA of the couples-with Joy and Austin present. I am hard pressed to think of what sort of behavior could surpass the antics of young Mr. and Mrs. House-flipper. And while I'm thinking about matters better left un-thought about, I wonder how many of their houses will get 'christened' on the way to being flipped. (Sorry. I believe a bottle of brain bleach was being passed around earlier.) No need to apologize! This IS the Duggar forum and their modesty is pretty trashy and sexual. The whole show has gone Nike, if you ask me. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491532
mythoughtis July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 At the point this was filmed. Austin and Joy has been married 26 days, must of which was on their honeymoon. The siblings haven't seen enough of them after marriage to form an opinion about their PDA. Although they might have another answer now. Wonder what JB and Michelle had to say about that scene? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491535
Mindthinkr July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Marigold said: The whole show has gone Nike, if you ask me. What is "gone Nike?" 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491551
humbleopinion July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 I'll let Cosmo Magazine explain what yelling "Nike" means while on a Duggar Outing http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a21626/duggar-girls-book-quotes 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3491641
AnnieBeez July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 I immediately thought of Jim Bob too when I heard about Jeremy's fear of bad breath. Jinger looks so over the show. It looked to me like she wasn't going to speak unless she had too. I heard the dirty diaper comment the same way Jeremy did. I too was wondering why they would change a clean diaper. It's not clean if it's wet. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3492031
Barb23 July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 What do we think about that all (or most) of the sibs using "Lovey" as a nickname/endearment? When I hear "Lovey" all I can think of is Mrs. Howell from Gilligan's Island. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3492620
Absolom July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 Ratings are in: 1.180 M viewers and a .31 rating. I think Jinger has always been somewhat appalled at her family. Now that she's been away from them, it's become even more glaring how odd many things are. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3492677
Newberry July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Barb23 said: What do we think about that all (or most) of the sibs using "Lovey" as a nickname/endearment? When I hear "Lovey" all I can think of is Mrs. Howell from Gilligan's Island. I thin one of them said they got it from Jill and Derek- sounds to me like they might have been doing it to mock them. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3493117
madpsych78 July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 19 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Did JB say Joy and Austin are next to have a baby because they already know that Jinger is pregnant? They've been married 8 months now and it seems odd that JB mentioned Joy and not her. I'm hoping inclined to say no, because Joy (I think) reminded him about JinJer. Which doesn't mean anything on television. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3493166
ginger90 July 26, 2017 Share July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Newberry said: I thin one of them said they got it from Jill and Derek- sounds to me like they might have been doing it to mock them. Ben said that, and Jessa wasn't happy about it. She responded that she didn't know where it came from. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/59773-s05e08-the-after-show-part-2/page/2/#findComment-3493332
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