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Discussing the charges against Jana is fine, but do not post any information that reveals her address/contact information- even if said documents are public (i.e. a part of court proceedings.)

Discussing charges against Jana is NOT a jumping off point to speculate on other instances abuse/neglect etc towards the M-children or to elaborate on Josh's conviction and potential victims.  

 

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Zella

Zella

18 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

How old were Josh, Josiah and Jo when they got married?

I find it weird that the twins are 21, without courting in sight

It seems weird to me too. I think they have a looming PR crisis in that in the beginning the older kids (especially the girls) had somewhat distinct personalities and recognizably features. I can definitely see how fans got invested in them and their courting and who they ended up with. The in-laws so far are also fairly easy to distinguish from each other in personality and appearance. Now it's just a long parade of interchangeable boys who kind of look like gnomes. I think it's going to be a lot harder to interest viewers in a courtship for most of these boys. 

@Snow Fairy, if this website is accurate, then Josh was 20, Joe was 22, and Josiah was 21. 

https://fundamentalists.fandom.com/wiki/Guide_to_Duggar_Weddings

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Ijustwantsomechips
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Maybe Jana needs her own thread as a token of the respect she’ll never garner as a single woman in Gothardland.  

andromeda331
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How about both hop in the plane close the door really quickly and fly off.  Abbie: "Where are we going?" JD: Cayman Islands. We're elope. And we're not coming back! Abbie: Wait we need

BitterApple
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Wow, so this is what, the fourth guy to publicly release a statement denying involvement with Jana? That must be doing wonders for her self-esteem.  These guys are starting to piss me off, though

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3 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

I'm surprised they didn't concoct a courtship/engagement for Jed before he launched his political career. A pretty, well-mannered fiancée at his side would be a campaign asset.

But their engagements aren't very long so they'd have to time it right. I suppose a Very Special Wedding Episode of Counting On for Jed would be a boost for his campaign. He needs to get busy. If he starts now, he could be courting --> engaged --> married --> an expectant father-to-be, as of election day in November. And he could use all his campaign appearances to pontificate on relationships, family, marriage, and raising kids. With his very special Duggar knowledge of all that stuff. Win-win! 🤣

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Barb23

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29 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

But their engagements aren't very long so they'd have to time it right. I suppose a Very Special Wedding Episode of Counting On for Jed would be a boost for his campaign. He needs to get busy. If he starts now, he could be courting --> engaged --> married --> an expectant father-to-be, as of election day in November. And he could use all his campaign experiences to pontificate on relationships, family, marriage, and raising kids. With his very special Duggar knowledge of all that stuff. Win-win! 🤣

That definitely would work but like you said he needs to get started right away. They could cut back on the courting & engagement times but even if they went the normal three month route for each , the wedding will be in July.  That still gives them a few months to get the deed done & get pregnant if they don't have a honeymoon baby. 

I can see it now - a very tight pregnancy campaign T-shirt with Jed!2020 on it. 

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Zella

Zella

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3 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Jed! could easily win though. 

True but I really do think Springdale's demographics skew Democratic now, and the incumbent meshes will with the constituency. Of course, nothing is guaranteed. I haven't seen where another Republican filed, so I guess Jed!, unlike Jim Bob's last elections, will at least advance beyond the primary. I'm really interested to see if there will be a debate between him and his opponent. 

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Sew Sumi

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4 hours ago, Zella said:

True but I really do think Springdale's demographics skew Democratic now, and the incumbent meshes will with the constituency. Of course, nothing is guaranteed. I haven't seen where another Republican filed, so I guess Jed!, unlike Jim Bob's last elections, will at least advance beyond the primary. I'm really interested to see if there will be a debate between him and his opponent. 

A debate would be hilarious! Megan talking about concrete issues, while Jed! is all about saving the unborn babiezzzzzz!!!!!112

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3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

A debate would be hilarious! Megan talking about concrete issues, while Jed! is all about saving the unborn babiezzzzzz!!!!!112

Unfortunately, I know too many people who will vote for a politician solely because of an anti-choice platform.  They don't know and don't care about his/her stand on any other issue, as long as the prevailing attitude is that a woman has no agency over her own body.  🤢

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

28 minutes ago, MonicaM said:

Unfortunately, I know too many people who will vote for a politician solely because of an anti-choice platform.  They don't know and don't care about his/her stand on any other issue, as long as the prevailing attitude is that a woman has no agency over her own body.  🤢

Oh, I am aware. Boob himself was a single-issue candidate. 

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Zella

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1 hour ago, MonicaM said:

Unfortunately, I know too many people who will vote for a politician solely because of an anti-choice platform.  They don't know and don't care about his/her stand on any other issue, as long as the prevailing attitude is that a woman has no agency over her own body.  🤢

For sure, but a growing number of Springdale residents are Hispanic and Marshallese. Jed!'s at a disadvantage there compared to someone with a long history of working in ESL in local schools. 

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satrunrose

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So Sinner Twin is the campaign manager? That explains the lack of Jed! helps in the soup kitchen/food bank! Jed! wishes the hispanic community Feliz Navidad! Jed! Waves at non-Christians in the holiday parade! social media. Poor Jeremiah doesn't realize that having a ministry is about more than just being sanctimonious on the tv. Ah well, as long as it makes Jed! 2020 look bad, I'm happy.

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Churchhoney

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45 minutes ago, satrunrose said:

So Sinner Twin is the campaign manager? That explains the lack of Jed! helps in the soup kitchen/food bank! Jed! wishes the hispanic community Feliz Navidad! Jed! Waves at non-Christians in the holiday parade! social media. Poor Jeremiah doesn't realize that having a ministry is about more than just being sanctimonious on the tv. Ah well, as long as it makes Jed! 2020 look bad, I'm happy.

That's the story. Jer! is as qualified to be a campaign manager as Jed! is to be a legislator (or pretty much anything else, actually). 

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cmr2014

cmr2014

On 12/31/2019 at 6:53 AM, katycat74 said:

Ice cream to celebrate the big 21! Whee!!

On I am Jazz, the twins turned 21 also. Their parents took them out for some shots. Say what you will about Jazz's parents, but they do it right, lol.

I'm okay with the no-drinking thing -- although I certainly went out for drinks on my 21st birthday. The thing is, though, that I went out with my FRIENDS.

The few times we've seen photos of the guys out for pizza "with friends" just further illustrates how friendless they all are. I think that the Duggars think the word "friend" means "someone you've met who believes in the right Jesus."

 

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

After the election 3 years ago, I now believe anyone can get elected. I think Jed's chances are slimmer, but he could still win.

Hopefully, Vladimir Putin isn't trying to rig the election for Jed!

As for Jer being Jed's "campaign manager", I suspect that it's really Jim Bob who's masterminding the kid's campaign.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

After the election 3 years ago, I now believe anyone can get elected. I think Jed's chances are slimmer, but he could still win.

 I know it’s not ethical for the networks to show a campaign in progress, after all and Fred Thompson and the current president had television shows on TV both were not shown during their campaigns. I still wonder if TLC will ignore that and make the campaign a part of the new storylines. Even if they ignore the campaign is still showing convenient courtship, which must be coming, it will still be a terrible form of advertising.

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Minivanessa

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Let's not forget that there are organizations that have been supporting and promoting conservative (IMO right-wing) Christians to successfully run for local and state offices (school boards, city councils, state legislatures, etc.) for years now. It wouldn't surprise me if Jed! has attended some trainings, meetings, seminars, etc. offered by such an organization. We'll find out in the coming months if he was a good student.

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Churchhoney

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16 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I'm okay with the no-drinking thing -- although I certainly went out for drinks on my 21st birthday. The thing is, though, that I went out with my FRIENDS.

The few times we've seen photos of the guys out for pizza "with friends" just further illustrates how friendless they all are. I think that the Duggars think the word "friend" means "someone you've met who believes in the right Jesus."

 

This is standard practice for super-controlling parents, of course. 

And the Gothard cult (and some of the other conservative-Christian cults) enticed entry by people predisposed to be super-controlling parents (like JB) by constructing a stupid philosophy that explains why it's ungodly, unhealthy and wrong for people to have actual friends outside your family.

Your sibs function sort of as friends--an artificial substitute to fool you into believing your life is like the lives of others.. However, since sibs are carefully trained to spy and snitch on one another, your parents can feel somewhat confident that you won't actually regard and treat them the way people usually regard friends -- i.e., as people with whom you have relationships that aren't within your parents' sphere of total control. 

 Friends in your own age bracket that you actually spend time and bond with are essentially declared to be of the devil, the ATI/ILBP stuff argues. Lead you straight to hell. 

Super-controlling parents who are not super-religious (like mine were, for example) just engineer your life in such a way that friends can't get into it unless you move far enough away to escape your parents' ability to engineer your days. And even then it's likely to take decades for you to shake the brainwashing because you've been programmed to be a hermit with ties only to your immediate family. 

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16 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

 

As for Jer being Jed's "campaign manager", I suspect that it's really Jim Bob who's masterminding the kid's campaign.

Oh, of course.  Jer! (as "campaign manager") is just a sock puppet with JB's creepy hand in his mouth. And Jed! as candidate and -- even more so -- as legislator (if a district is dumb and unlucky enough for this to happen) will be totally JB's sock puppet. 

The only reason Jed!'s running is because JB so thoroughly wore out his welcome even with most Arkansas Republicans long ago that he's still convinced he can't get power on his own. So now he's trying to get it through Jed!, just as he earlier hoped he'd get it through Josh. 

That's really why JB had 19 Kids. He's a person with zero empathy. Massively arrogant and concerned only with himself. The kids are all nothing but his sock puppets, in politics (and business, etc.).....Despite the  "But Jim Bob loves eeez kiiids!" shit that he (not even very enthusiastically) tries to sell and that many television viewers apparently are naive enough to believe.  

He doesn't love his kids. He feels warm fuzzies when he sees his human-sized gametes running around and, especially, producing even more JB-derived gametes to run around in the future. That's not "love' by any definition that has any actual love-related meaning whatsoever.

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laurakaye

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1 hour ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

It goes to show how full of themselves this family is that anyone thought it was a good idea letting a 21 year old run for office with a 21 year old campaign  manager. 

Really stupid question....but do the spawn of JB even get a chance to say, "hey - dad?  I am not remotely qualified to be a politician/campaign manager, as I am only 21 and have no clue what I'm actually supposed to be doing."  OR - and I think this is more likely - these kidults have been brainwashed into thinking that they don't really have to "know" anything - simply by being born a Duggar, they are automatically deigned to be important and qualified for whatever their stupid dad decides they are going to do with their lives.

Good thing JD didn't rely on a pamphlet to teach him how to fly planes....or did he?

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Ohiopirate02

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35 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Really stupid question....but do the spawn of JB even get a chance to say, "hey - dad?  I am not remotely qualified to be a politician/campaign manager, as I am only 21 and have no clue what I'm actually supposed to be doing."  OR - and I think this is more likely - these kidults have been brainwashed into thinking that they don't really have to "know" anything - simply by being born a Duggar, they are automatically deigned to be important and qualified for whatever their stupid dad decides they are going to do with their lives.

Good thing JD didn't rely on a pamphlet to teach him how to fly planes....or did he?

If a Duggar spawn did question KJB's edict about his future career, he would find himself homeless real quick.  I don't see this happening because JB has done a great job of beating his kids into submission in multiple ways like repeated trips to ALERT.  They choose the path of least resistance after years of brainwashing and inherent laziness.

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JustRosie

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39 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Really stupid question....but do the spawn of JB even get a chance to say, "hey - dad?  I am not remotely qualified to be a politician/campaign manager, as I am only 21 and have no clue what I'm actually supposed to be doing."  OR - and I think this is more likely - these kidults have been brainwashed into thinking that they don't really have to "know" anything - simply by being born a Duggar, they are automatically deigned to be important and qualified for whatever their stupid dad decides they are going to do with their lives.

Good thing JD didn't rely on a pamphlet to teach him how to fly planes....or did he?

Hopefully, the universe never allows them to be elected to even a low position in Washington. They’d get eaten alive there. 

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Scarlett45
Message added by Scarlett45,

Discussing the charges against Jana is fine, but do not post any information that reveals her address/contact information- even if said documents are public (i.e. a part of court proceedings.)

Discussing charges against Jana is NOT a jumping off point to speculate on other instances abuse/neglect etc towards the M-children or to elaborate on Josh's conviction and potential victims.  

 

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