S09.E09: Two Weeks Notice

[Michichick]

2 hours ago, bagger said:

One act that B thanked Ramona for very publicly. There have been other occasions when she didn't behave so well, the take down on the bridge, talking behind her back, bringing up the "porn" past in the nastiest of ways and repeatedly talking down to her about her "lack" of friends and let us not forget that at this point B is fully aware that Ramona was willing to move full steam ahead with tipsy girl and still lies about it. Maybe that's what comes out next week.

Tipsy Girl was Sonja, not Ramona, wasn't it?

[sadie]

I have always loved Bethany's sense of humor but she is grating on me with the hysterics. I too suffered a very abusive marriage, like gothic tragic deep disturbing stuff. Guess what? I never drug my personal torture of it around with me to beat other people over the head with it. I'm an adult and I dealt with it in therapy. Most people have no idea what I went thru. Bethany needs serious help if this is really where her head and this is how she acts and it does not make for entertaining television. I agree having money does not insulate someone from pain and suffering, but I've spent time in women's shelters with women who had no resources at all, literally no where to sleep, not a dime to their name, small kids in tow, and were beat to within an inch of their lives and yet still managed to have a more positive demeanor than B. Girl, get off tv and get some help.

Luann dodged their concerns like a boss!!! That's how you do it folks.

Dorinda, I'll eat chicken at your house any time and I don't spill. 

[Juliegirlj]

Oh Good Lord.... every woman in that room has been through a divorce (except Carol?) Look at Sonja and her problems with her ex! Bethenny is really losing her grip on reality. Her verbiage with Ramona does indicate she is seeing a therapist " I don't like the way you are speaking to me". Let's hope it is a qualified professional and not one of those Bravo TV therapists!! 

[ElDosEquis]

11 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Count me in as a Ocean Spray can fan.  But I loved the way she cut and served it.  I believe there should be an instructional video presented on Bravotv.

Fuck the instructional video.

Buy the kind of can you can open from either end.

Using a can opener, open one end of the can and remove the lid.

Flip the can over a dish and just pierce the lid about 1/8 of an inch, then blow into the hole.

With a little practice you can get the contents to fall just right on the plate.

[QuinnM]

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Fuck the instructional video.

That's what I do but Dorinda has elevated it to a spiral sliced masterpiece.  As is fitting of doing it nice at Bluestone Manor.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

Why was Bethenny carrying her clutch purse around the house with her like a security blanket?

Ramona also flounced into dinner (with Sonja) carrying her purse on her arm.  I've seen them all do it at people's homes, and it's weird to me.  What's in those purses that they have to carry them around while being a guest in someone's house?  

[Mozelle]

34 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Ramona seemed like she was a half glass or half pill away from slurring "I love you guys," oh wait, she did. 

Dorinda does sweat the small stuff, after her guests lit a fire in her non working fireplace she simply doused it with water and went on with the evening...(I would have opened a window) but I did wonder why her smoke alarm was not going off.  If there was a charity auction and the prize was a "Make it Nice Weekend with Dorinda" I would totally bid on that.  I loved that she served the Make it Nice cake in spite of the mishap.

Bethenny and Carole were awful, they would retreat after every confefe (tee hee) and dissect it behind closed doors, basically laughing at everyone and saying how stupid they were, this is the kind of stuff that makes for a good reunion after the other HW's have watched those scenes. 

Carole does look terrible, what has she done to herself?

Luanne is not having any of the nonsense those women are putting out there, she knows full well what she is signing on for but is too smart to let the others get a whiff of anything less than the perfect love story image she is creating.  She is no dummy.
 

Sonja plays the violin well, lol.

I snickered. I wasn't ready for this. 

But on Carole and Bethenny rehashing each dramatic incident, man, I can't even be mad. It's something my best friend and I would do. Hell, she got married last fall and after she returned from her honeymoon, we were rehashing all the shit that had gone down during the wedding weekend. 

Edited June 1, 2017 by Mozelle

[Juliegirlj]

Ok, Bethenny has a lady boner for Adam. Wanna bet her next man will be a younger man? Carole probably shares intimate details about what a stud Adam is, and Dennis Shields can't compare ! 

[thesupremediva1]

No one feels sorry for Luann. No one cares about her well-being, or their supposed "friendships" with her.

They know very well that Luann is treating this as an open marriage, and I'm sure she and Tom have an agreement and arrangement that works for both of them. Luann is not a teenager with stars in her eyes.

Because they don't agree with this, or can't stand to see anyone happy, the women are doing their damnedest to make Lu confess this on camera. Quite frankly, it's pathetic on their part. Let. It. Go. If she comes crying to you about Tom's affairs, then and only then do you get to be smug and say I told you so. At this point, they look consumed by petty jealousies over the fact that Lu is getting married and they're not.

Marriage is a social construct and once you have that piece of paper, you can do anything you please in your own house. Gee, Beth, Lu is excited about her wedding. Why don't we nail her to a cross?! Just because she didn't have the worst divorce of all time doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to celebrate her non-traditional happiness.

I swear to God that Beth is using the show for one purpose and that's to publicly bash her ex-husband. I don't believe a word she and Carole have to say about him. The day he gets in the press ranting about her is the day I'll give the smallest credence to her crusade against him. 

People talk about Ramona but man, Beth's crocodile tears about her 5-year-old divorce were pathetic. Lu said the nicest thing she could - Beth got a daughter she adores out of the crummy marriage. Beth's reaction was immediate venom and then a meltdown. Even alluding to Bryn is akin to saying the name Voldemort.

[Boofish]

My best friend (who is also my roommate) and I love more than life is like some of the comments I see here. No matter the trauma or life event, she thinks in a few weeks you should just "get over it." I don't care how traumatizing it is if you say it happened last year she wants to know "why are you still whining?" I have no issues with Bethenny and her unleashed pain. For the most part she seems to keep it together. Who knows what a horrible monster he is or she is but I'm not in the "get over it camp" 

IF her and LuAnn were real friends I could understand her trying to talk her out of the marriage. But they are not so she really should mind her own business and so should the rest of them. As far as her saying something nice to LuAnn face and then trash talking when she leaves the room that is on every single housewife job description. She is not reinventing the wheel.

[QuinnM]

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Tipsy Girl was Sonja, not Ramona, wasn't it?

Ramona made a big statement when it hit the fan saying they offered it to her but she said no because it was wrong, blah, blah, blah.  Now suddenly we see that there were extensive emails with Ramona saying yes.  So that's going to hit the fan.

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Absolutely, her reaction to the fire place thing was above it all, self centered and not gracious. She was literally "it's not MY FAULT the flue was stuck shut" and stomps off with an eye roll not taking a shred of responsibility. How about helping with the mess you made and apologizing instead of deflecting your contribution! That's why she and Beth are great friends nothing is ever their fault,  they do not contribute to any conflict.  It's always 100% the other person at fault.  

I'm still a little amazed that Carole was the reason I tuned into the show to begin with , when I found out she was the widow of a notable Polonian (I'm Polonian but thankfully, not a notable one).

She was sly, witty & lent an outsider's POV with her THs.  In BF's first season back, Carole befriended her because she could tell BF was wound tight.  Well, lie down with dogs and rise up with fleas!  Bethenny either pulled Carole down to her level, or Carole was really already there and it wasn't much of a fall.

i cringed at her arrogance and complete unconcern for the physical chaos she caused at Dorinda's.

[WireWrap]

57 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Way to go, Bethenny. You just showed Jason on TV that he is succeeding on making your life miserable. He must have had a big ole' shit eating grin on his face seeing how his attempts to drive you crazy are working. 

As long as Jason has a loving/good relationship with Bryn, Bethenny will never be happy. Bethenny wants sole custody of Bryn and Jason completely out of Bryn's life for good.

30 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Tipsy Girl was Sonja, not Ramona, wasn't it?

Ramona was the Tipsy "Girl" initially and she lied to Bethenny about it.

[Ki-in]

13 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

Ok, Bethenny has a lady boner for Adam. Wanna bet her next man will be a younger man? Carole probably shares intimate details about what a stud Adam is, and Dennis Shields can't compare ! 

I thought she was mocking him (cashew foam) and I think she secretly thinks the relationship is a little ridiculous but I also do agree that she might want some for herself. Carole better watch out because Bethenny was a natural foods chef and might want to "team up with Adam on a project".

[ElDosEquis]

Do has a house in the Berkshires

Almost lost to a fool's fire.

The gathering? quite scary

but we were saved by cranberries

and of Beff? We have officially tired.

----

There once was a tortured lass

Who remained alive in the past

But what really was sick

Her search for diamond-ed dick

and her ability to act like an ass.

------

I could see Lulu's NOT wanting to invite any of the hags to the wedding. I could see the ceremony getting to the point where the "does anyone object to this marriage" question is asked and Sonja, Ramona, Beffy and Carole all stand up at the same time, then start a fight amongst themselves because THEIR reason is the best for the cntess NOT to get hitched. 

[Ki-in]

2 minutes ago, BckpckFullaNinjas said:

Carole was really already there and it wasn't much of a fall.

i cringed at her arrogance and complete unconcern for the physical chaos she caused at Dorinda's.

This, evident in her first appearance and she's only gotten worse. She's on her redemption tour this season and is trying to make nice with the other ladies because she won't have her rabid dog to protect her.

[ElDosEquis]

21 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Ramona also flounced into dinner (with Sonja) carrying her purse on her arm.  I've seen them all do it at people's homes, and it's weird to me.  What's in those purses that they have to carry them around while being a guest in someone's house?  

Either she just cashed a check or she wasn't going to allow her stash to get farther then arm's length away?

[poeticlicensed]

Well that was a shitshow. Drunk Moaner, not understanding why B won't make up with her was just sad. As was the ladies staging an intervention with Lu about Tom. Lu may be a lot of things, but she isn't naive, she knows exactly what she is getting into. Why put her in the position of defending Tom's behavior on TV when it's clear that the two  have an arrangement? 

Yes, Beth, you had a shit marriage and a shittier divorce, just like millions of people. It seem like she and her ex are locked into a battle royale that neither of them can break free of. They are both getting some kind of psychological payoff from continuing the drama. B needs counseling and not from that weirdo therapist she sees. I get that Jason is a nightmare, but I'm guessing that B is no angel either. 

[ButterQueen]

2 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

Carole's integrity is seriously lacking if she's going to spew on Bethenny's behalf like that.  We all see right through it, whether you're on Bethenny's side or not.  Carole the big journalist, the voice for those who can't speak.  Bitch, please.

I'm giving Carole a pass.  Dorinda specifically asked her why Bethenny was crying and what was going on.

What does Carole having been a journalist have anything to do with chatting about her friends?  It's getting beyond ridiculous.

Edited June 1, 2017 by ButterQueen

[ElDosEquis]

Things NOT to do as a guest in someone's home.

1) Eat all the cheese.

2) Dog the hostess.

3) Bring your personal angst in, This is a PARTY, no one really cares.

4) Touch a stereo, television or fireplace - no matter HOW qualified you are to operate any of the aforementioned items.

5) Spill shit on the rug (Points for owning up to it.)

6) Engage in a convo, then retreat and review it with your flying monkey sidekick.

Refrain for engaging in any of the previous behaviors and watch what you drink - Now you are prepared for an evening/weekend of fun and good times........

[ElDosEquis]

44 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

That's what I do but Dorinda has elevated it to a spiral sliced masterpiece.  As is fitting of doing it nice at Bluestone Manor.

LOL, I thought those were the lines from the can.

[Duke2801]

16 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I'm giving Carole a pass.  Dorinda specifically asked her why Bethenny was crying and what was going on.

What does Carole having been a journalist have anything to do with chatting about her friends?  It's getting beyond ridiculous.

ha ha yea.  If Carole had sat there and not said anything, some would chastise her for NOT speaking up on behalf of her friend. "OH what a GREAT friend you are, Radzi."  Sigh. It's a no-win situation.  

[esco1822]

You can add me to Bethenny Island. Though this will be wildly unpopular, she and Carole are my favorites and I think have the most genuine relationship of all the ladies on the show. I won't even knock them for laughing about Lu's Hallmark Card advice because I was laughing too. Sometimes people just want to let out all of their feelings without interruption or being told about the silver lining. Was she feeling sorry for herself? Absolutely. I don't think she needs to be told to remember that her daughter is the good thing that came out of this situation. I have no doubt she loves and adores her daughter (which I give her a lot of credit for given that she was raised in very much an opposite manner--and yes I'm taking her word for it) but it must be so difficult when the person that gives you the most joy is also the reason you will have a lifetime of painful interaction with someone you no longer want in your life. To me Bethenny gets cold and stand-offish (e.g. Ramona and Sonja) when she doesn't want to be around someone so I don't buy that she's harassing Jason in the same way he's harassing her. I think he's trying to provoke a reaction from her directly and she's letting her lawyers handle everything which probably upsets him more. Last night's episode was a rare showing of vulnerability from her and I, for one, felt badly for her and thankful that Lu handled it as well as she did. Obviously things were building at that time since this was around Christmas and the stalking charge was in January so I'm sure she felt like she had the weight of the world on her shoulders even if the viewers may disagree. I think she likes to portray that she is a person who has it all together but when she falls apart, she does so spectacularly. Let's note that she actually left the room to cry and it took a little while for anyone to Lu to follow. Notice Carole didn't do it. I think she knows best how to deal with Bethenny and supports her the way any good friend would. Sometimes you just accept a person for exactly who they are and do your best to support them however they need.  Carole is being the friend she needs and wants.

As for Sonja, I think her fakery with Lu is going to cause her more problems now that the episode is out and Lu knows she was obviously full of sh*t. She says it all in her TH's, she just tries to save face with Lu in person in the moment. Her portrayal of Bethenny was comedy gold though, as was her mock playing violin while Ramona talked. Speaking of which, it was a little creepy the way she just appeared on Bethenny's shoulder and slurred out her semi-apology. She's like Golum. 

[Mindthinkr]

48 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

 

Do has a house in the Berkshires

Almost lost to a fool's fire.

The gathering? quite scary

but we were saved by cranberries

and of Beff? We have officially tired.

----

There once was a tortured lass

Who remained alive in the past

But what really was sick

Her search for diamond-ed dick

and her ability to act like an ass.

------

I could see Lulu's NOT wanting to invite any of the hags to the wedding. I could see the ceremony getting to the point where the "does anyone object to this marriage" question is asked and Sonja, Ramona, Beffy and Carole all stand up at the same time, then start a fight amongst themselves because THEIR reason is the best for the cntess NOT to get hitched. 

 

Love your witty poems. Spot on. Clapping. Keep them coming please. 

Poor Dorinda's home takes a beating every time these "friends" come to visit. Last year with Ramona's dog crapping on her carpet. This year with Ramona staining her dining room chair and the mess and smell of the fireplace debacle. Heck, we're not even done yet with their visit! What's next? 

[ElDosEquis]

3 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Love your witty poems. Spot on. Clapping. Keep them coming please. 

As long as you don't mind the dirty rhymes?

[Mindthinkr]

Just now, ElDosEquis said:

As long as you don't mind the dirty rhymes?

Not all all. I'm an adult and can handle it lol! 

[kira28]

I think luann just wants the beautiful white wedding she never got. She wants to be a, wife too and she will just ignore the huge waving red flags and pretend she's insanely happy so she gets what she wants. Some women (and men I guess) just want to be married and will live in denial or be miserable just to stay with a person who betrays them. One of my coworkers is married and found out (3 months in) that her husband was cheating. She confronted him and he moved out. She talked him into working things out and he came back a few months later then cheated again and got the gf pregnant. My coworker had no kids with her husband and blamed the other women though the mistress produced texts from the husband showing he'd told her he'd had a vasectomy. My coworker stayed in the marriage and found out later that husband kept the gf and still cheating. Coworker got pregnant and later after their kid was born found our hubby cheated while she was pregnant and knocked up yet another girl. So he has three kids only one with her and pays almost 2000 a month in child support. Most recent she's complained about is he gets visitation  with his first child with the gf and spoils his daughter and she can do no wrong yet he treats his wife and his son Like crap and is very strict and mean to him. No idea about the third child.  And her husband quit his job to avoid child support so my coworker is now working two jobs to take care of their son and pay his child support so he won't go to jail. But by God she is still married! Lol. Not sure lu would go to those extremes but she's a head in the sand gal like my coworker. I do think it was rude of the women to pile on luann like that two weeks before her wedding. They have had months to say something. She's not going to change her mind! 

[KungFuBunny]

Opening scene, Luanne/Rodney Dangerfield as the other HW walked into the room

[ElDosEquis]

56 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Not all all. I'm an adult and can handle it lol! 

There once was a woman so crass

Who often spoke of dick and of ass

Her life is her ex

and speaking of sex

and her life as a miserable lass.

Edited June 1, 2017 by ElDosEquis

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Opening scene, Luanne/Rodney Dangerfield as the other HW walked into the room

That was very telling, eh?

Am I the only one worried about the poor tortured vegetables?

[KungFuBunny]

16 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

You can add me to Bethenny Island. Though this will be wildly unpopular, she and Carole are my favorites and I think have the most genuine relationship of all the ladies on the show. I won't even knock them for laughing about Lu's Hallmark Card advice because I was laughing too. Sometimes people just want to let out all of their feelings without interruption or being told about the silver lining. Was she feeling sorry for herself? Absolutely. I don't think she needs to be told to remember that her daughter is the good thing that came out of this situation. I have no doubt she loves and adores her daughter (which I give her a lot of credit for given that she was raised in very much an opposite manner--and yes I'm taking her word for it) but it must be so difficult when the person that gives you the most joy is also the reason you will have a lifetime of painful interaction with someone you no longer want in your life. To me Bethenny gets cold and stand-offish (e.g. Ramona and Sonja) when she doesn't want to be around someone so I don't buy that she's harassing Jason in the same way he's harassing her. I think he's trying to provoke a reaction from her directly and she's letting her lawyers handle everything which probably upsets him more. Last night's episode was a rare showing of vulnerability from her and I, for one, felt badly for her and thankful that Lu handled it as well as she did. Obviously things were building at that time since this was around Christmas and the stalking charge was in January so I'm sure she felt like she had the weight of the world on her shoulders even if the viewers may disagree. I think she likes to portray that she is a person who has it all together but when she falls apart, she does so spectacularly. Let's note that she actually left the room to cry and it took a little while for anyone to Lu to follow. Notice Carole didn't do it. I think she knows best how to deal with Bethenny and supports her the way any good friend would. Sometimes you just accept a person for exactly who they are and do your best to support them however they need.  Carole is being the friend she needs and wants.

As for Sonja, I think her fakery with Lu is going to cause her more problems now that the episode is out and Lu knows she was obviously full of sh*t. She says it all in her TH's, she just tries to save face with Lu in person in the moment. Her portrayal of Bethenny was comedy gold though, as was her mock playing violin while Ramona talked. Speaking of which, it was a little creepy the way she just appeared on Bethenny's shoulder and slurred out her semi-apology. She's like Golum. 

Of all of the HW's cast mates, Luann needs to watch out for Sonja. At least the other woman tell Luann things to her face. Sonja continues to talk negatively about Luann and Tom in her TH shots and it differs from the way she behaved with Luann on the sofa.

When Sonya had her TH shot I was waiting for her to add being part of the NY Philharmonic Orchestra playing at both Lincoln Center & Carnegie Hall.

[Martinigirl]

Just now, KungFuBunny said:

Of all of the HW's cast mates, Luann needs to watch out for Sonja. At least the other woman tell Luann things to her face. Sonja continues to talk negatively about Luann and Tom in her TH shots and it differs from the way she behaved with Luann on the sofa.

When Sonya had her TH shot I was waiting for her to add being part of the NY Philharmonic Orchestra playing at both Lincoln Center & Carnegie Hall.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mindthinkr]

Once I invited my friends to the Berks 

Where they proceeded to act like jerks

The house filled with smoke

With cameras I couldn't go toke

So till they leave my cleaning I'll shirk

Edited June 1, 2017 by Mindthinkr

[Martinigirl]

Amy Phillips...Tom shooting diamonds out of his penis  - "Are they are yellow and murky?" LOL!!!!

[KungFuBunny]

Ramona staining the chair - she put too much sauce. No Ramona, I watched the kitchen scene, you were the one with the spoon ladling on the Jus. Dorinda was tilting the pan to make it easier for you to spoon it.

 

Thish shickken is shuck oo lunt. I'm gonna have it again and again and over and over again

[NYCNJbear06]

So glad it wasn’t just me who thought this was a shitshow of an episode. Lordy I just couldn’t. Ramona IMO was on something other than liquor, yes she was drunk but the level of manic-ness makes me wonder if it was prescription meds AND alcohol that caused the flame out.  It was cringe worthy to watch.   

Luann was a saint to deal with B in the hall.  Yes her marriage is doomed and she gives zero fucks because she is in full on Elmer Fudd mode –My name is Luann wife of Tom and we have a penthouse and a yacht.  

The thing that gets me is that I could understand your enthusiasm to prevent Luann from making a mistake if you were really close friends with her but ya’ll are not.  The only reason you want to “save” her is because you want some sick bragging rights to be able to say you saved her from heartache.  Truthfully it isn’t about Luann it’s about YOU and that Captain Save-A-Ho t-shirt you trying to earn.  All ya’ll can have a seat. 

[KungFuBunny]

Ramona opened her paper and discovered she won the Home-made Chocolate Santa

[MerryMary]

The high point was when Bethenny explained why everyone ('cept Dorinda) wasn't invited to the wedding and everyone nodded affirmatively.  They didn't get in their feelings--they owned their behavior.  It is what it is.

And yes, Lu just talks about their wonderful life together, not the feelings she has for this guy.  Hope it's worth it.

The fire was a low point.  I think the stone on the fireplace was discolored by smoke.  I wonder how hard it is to fix that.  God bless Dorinda for putting up with these idiots.  These are the least fun girlfriend weekends ever.  

[poeticlicensed]

10 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Ramona opened her paper and discovered she won the Home-made Chocolate Santa

That's because Avery loves chocolate!

[KungFuBunny]

Dorinda said she didn't want anyone to suffer from Smoke InTalation.

I certainly wouldn't want to be inhubated

[Yours Truly]

So it's okay to just start a fire in a fireplace while a guest in someone's home without checking with them first?

I mean shit there are things you just don't do in someone else's home without being invited to do so and or on your own.

-Go in their fridge

-Go into their bedroom

-Go through medicine cabinets/ under the sink in the bathroom

-Open windows

and I would completely expect "start a fire" as an automatic DON'T.

Hell I was shocked when Ramona, Sonja and Tinsley attempted it in the other room last episode and was surprised to see Dorinda treat it as okay. Like fucking A. That's some liberties right there.

SMH.

Edited June 1, 2017 by Yours Truly

[KungFuBunny]

Crazy Noodle Speech

I love my friends. I love all of you girls. Tinsley, you're new and I don't really love you that much yet.

Tinsley's face

[ElDosEquis]

43 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Once I invited my friends to the Berks 

Where they proceeded to act like jerks

The house filled with smoke

With cameras I couldn't go toke

So till they leave my cleaning I'll shirk

I was a Girl Scout, Carole did shout

and began to scramble about

Her only desire

was to start a fire

and was forced to then put it out.

-------

Do is the ultimate host.

"she'll make it nice" is her boast

She is the godmother fairy -

Of Ocean Spray cranberries

And that impressed me the most.

[motorcitymom65]

2 hours ago, Ki-in said:

This, evident in her first appearance and she's only gotten worse. She's on her redemption tour this season and is trying to make nice with the other ladies because she won't have her rabid dog to protect her.

What has Beth ever protected her from? 

1 hour ago, esco1822 said:

You can add me to Bethenny Island. Though this will be wildly unpopular, she and Carole are my favorites and I think have the most genuine relationship of all the ladies on the show. I won't even knock them for laughing about Lu's Hallmark Card advice because I was laughing too. Sometimes people just want to let out all of their feelings without interruption or being told about the silver lining. Was she feeling sorry for herself? Absolutely. I don't think she needs to be told to remember that her daughter is the good thing that came out of this situation. I have no doubt she loves and adores her daughter (which I give her a lot of credit for given that she was raised in very much an opposite manner--and yes I'm taking her word for it) but it must be so difficult when the person that gives you the most joy is also the reason you will have a lifetime of painful interaction with someone you no longer want in your life. To me Bethenny gets cold and stand-offish (e.g. Ramona and Sonja) when she doesn't want to be around someone so I don't buy that she's harassing Jason in the same way he's harassing her. I think he's trying to provoke a reaction from her directly and she's letting her lawyers handle everything which probably upsets him more. Last night's episode was a rare showing of vulnerability from her and I, for one, felt badly for her and thankful that Lu handled it as well as she did. Obviously things were building at that time since this was around Christmas and the stalking charge was in January so I'm sure she felt like she had the weight of the world on her shoulders even if the viewers may disagree. I think she likes to portray that she is a person who has it all together but when she falls apart, she does so spectacularly. Let's note that she actually left the room to cry and it took a little while for anyone to Lu to follow. Notice Carole didn't do it. I think she knows best how to deal with Bethenny and supports her the way any good friend would. Sometimes you just accept a person for exactly who they are and do your best to support them however they need.  Carole is being the friend she needs and wants.

As for Sonja, I think her fakery with Lu is going to cause her more problems now that the episode is out and Lu knows she was obviously full of sh*t. She says it all in her TH's, she just tries to save face with Lu in person in the moment. Her portrayal of Bethenny was comedy gold though, as was her mock playing violin while Ramona talked. Speaking of which, it was a little creepy the way she just appeared on Bethenny's shoulder and slurred out her semi-apology. She's like Golum. 

Perfection. Make room for me on the island. I will bring snacks. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I must be pretty sad, because, last night sort of reminded me of gatherings that I've had with my friends. lol I know......  We used to be quite a crew.  I just got the feeling that I would have fit right in there.  It seemed pretty real to me. Especially, compared to some of the more contrived drama where they are in hysterics about who took a magazine on the trip or gave someone a grandbaby gift.  This one just seems more authentic to me.  And, even though, it's f'd up, I can tolerate it.  And even be amused by it. 

I agree that Bethenny was funny with her blunt and graphic explanation as to why most of them would not be proper wedding guests at Luann's wedding. She makes me laugh, but, I also can't stand her.  She's one of those people, (I'm a former fan) who left a bad taste for me and I won't soon forget it.  I read a lot about her situation (even before their separation) and find her complaints of dragging out the divorce preposterous.  SHE dragged it out.  Some people REFUSE to move on after a divorce. They just can't let it go.  AND, maybe Jason did have cause to criticize her parenting.  I mean, A JUDGE had to order her to stop doing some things regarding her parenting before.  I wish the show wasn't trying to show Jason in a negative light.  For me to believe it, I'd require proper evidence with the right to cross examine the witness.     There is always something that is terrorizing Bethenny.  ALWAYS.  Something is not right with her, imo.

Dorinda was so kind.  She didn't freak out or cast blame with the fire.  I might have.  And she stayed cool as a cucumber with the stain on her chair.  She's classy in that regard.  I'm a firm believer that you can't expect to feel comfortable in a home, if you have stuff that can't be damaged.  It's a risk you take.  Now, the fire thing was pushing it.  That was either staged for drama or very dense on Carol's part.  Anyone who has lived in a house with a fireplace knows that you have to ensure proper chimney function.   

[NeverLate]

1 hour ago, Duke2801 said:

ha ha yea.  If Carole had sat there and not said anything, some would chastise her for NOT speaking up on behalf of her friend. "OH what a GREAT friend you are, Radzi."  Sigh. It's a no-win situation.  

Not me. I don't care if Carole speaks or doesn't, she bores me.

 

As to Bethenny, I think she's exhausting, she has to feel exhausted, and everyone around her. Carol speaks up for her, and she disses her and Adam. She's not clever witty, or funny, she's downright mean! 

[ElDosEquis]

3 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

Couldn't have said it better myself!!

But ummm yeah, she MUST be telling the truth...

Wondering where on this show she gave the impression that her hurtful words ALWAYS come from a place of truth and honesty.

Being a blunt asshole that "tells it like it is" doesn't mean a person is always trustworthy. It just means that if they have dirt on you and you piss them off they are going to share that information in the most public way in order to get at you. It doesn't mean they are some bona fide TRUTH cannon. A cannon yeah, but a TRUTH cannon?  Nah. Being brutally "honest" is a term that hateful people have come up with to try and skirt any responsibility for being mean spirited assholes who pounce at will. Somewhere along the way people actually started trying to assign some sort of legitimacy to the "honest" part of the title brutally honest and  he we are. People actually believe Beth speaks only truth...... always...mmmmkkkkaaayyy.

Perfect description!

Beffy would NEVER share any of her life with the others because they'd laugh at her problems- the same way she laughs at her castmates?

I'd like to give her credit for separating her 'personal trials' from her show persona, but she loses me when she declares open season on the other women, yet claims her bullshit is off limits?

[psychoticstate]

Another "to be continued?"  Seriously, show?  

Sgt. Pepper really needs to quit projecting her issues and dysfunctions on to everyone else.  How many times does she (and the other "ladies") need to push LuAnn into an Intervention episode?  Lu is a grown woman.  She's made her decision.  She's said that she's happy, she trusts the louse and she does not want to back out.  Plus, she's two weeks from the wedding so let it go already.

I always liked Jason but I have terrible taste in men.  Sounds like both he and B are guilty of being assholes and they really need to let it go and put the needs of their child ahead of everything else.  I know that B was annoyed with Lu's "Deepak Chopra-ing" but she was really right.  Be grateful for your daughter and move on to the next chapter.  If Jason is acting this way, call your attorney.

Ramona seemed like she was on something stronger than wine.  She was absolutely crazed. 

I'm with Lu - - chicken, mashed potatoes and green beans are the best. 

Love Dorinda's house.  She really is an excellent hostess. 

Carole actually didn't annoy me this episode. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I wonder if the cast mates all agreeing that they are a WONDERFUL mother is a provision in their contracts.  Recall how that's a standard stipulation with all REAL housewives, including, Brandi, Kelly, Kim, Aviva, Jules, etc.  It seems to bare no relation to reality.  I wonder how they really know much about Bethenny's parenting, unless, it's what she tells them.  

Edited June 1, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[ZaldamoWilder]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Ramona staining the chair - she put too much sauce. No Ramona, I watched the kitchen scene, you were the one with the spoon ladling on the Jus. Dorinda was tilting the pan to make it easier for you to spoon it.

 

Thish shickken is shuck oo lunt. I'm gonna have it again and again and over and over again

Damn you.  You made me say it.  LOL!!

6 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I must be pretty sad, because, last night sort of reminded me of gatherings that I've had with my friends. lol I know......  We used to be quite a crew.  I just got the feeling that I would have fit right in there.  It seemed pretty real to me. Especially, compared to some of the more contrived drama where they are in hysterics about who took a magazine on the trip or gave someone a grandbaby gift.  This one just seems more authentic to me.  And, even though, it's f'd up, I can tolerate it.  And even be amused by it. 

I agree that Bethenny was funny with her blunt and graphic explanation as to why most of them would not be proper wedding guests at Luann's wedding. She makes me laugh, but, I also can't stand her.  She's one of those people, (I'm a former fan) who left a bad taste for me and I won't soon forget it.  I read a lot about her situation (even before their separation) and find her complaints of dragging out the divorce preposterous.  SHE dragged it out.  Some people REFUSE to move on after a divorce. They just can't let it go.  AND, maybe Jason did have cause to criticize her parenting.  I mean, A JUDGE had to order her to stop doing some things regarding her parenting before.  I wish the show wasn't trying to show Jason in a negative light.  For me to believe it, I'd require proper evidence with the right to cross examine the witness.     There is always something that is terrorizing Bethenny.  ALWAYS.  Something is not right with her, imo.

Dorinda was so kind.  She didn't freak out or cast blame with the fire.  I might have.  And she stayed cool as a cucumber with the stain on her chair.  She's classy in that regard.  I'm a firm believer that you can't expect to feel comfortable in a home, if you have stuff that can't be damaged.  It's a risk you take.  Now, the fire thing was pushing it.  That was either staged for drama or very dense on Carol's part.  Anyone who has lived in a house with a fireplace knows that you have to ensure proper chimney function.   

This.  That poor woman is going to need a hazard rider added onto her policy if she insists on hosting anymore of these.  But to be fair, Carole said she was a Girl Scout.   So she knows how to start a fire (maybe) we saw her stick her whole hand in there to encourage the other kindling.  But having had a fireplace before?  Gonna have to go with no.  It was cold, the fireplace gate thingy was up and the flue was closed, she needs to stick to woods and marshmallows and stuff.   I might just be annoyed at her pre-dinner comment because of the sheer volume of chickens that have died for my personal benefit. 

andplusalso?  do ya'll have any openings in your friend group (full disclosure I will lie about having a grandbaby just to get the gift).

p.s. Truly if you ever invite me over, clear out all your shit, I'mma open your bathroom mirror cause a bitch needs to know.  :D