Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[farmgal4]

I'm completely dumbfounded.  Dumbass Dillard has just admitted, to the entire world, that he's an able-bodied, unemployed, POS with a college degree, who expects anyone who's willing to support him and his family forever (apparently).  He has not one ounce of shame or embarrassment either.  Wow...

[awaken]

5 hours ago, Christina87 said:

You know what I would absolutely LOVE? If Jazz DID stop and have coffee with Derick, for "I am Jazz!" If TLC wanted to completely throw him under the bus, they could meet him and let him look like a total idiot. I mean, jazz and Jeanette meet with haters all the time. Can you imagine Cathy and Derick sitting smugly on one side of the table, while Jeanette and jazz are ready for war on the other?!

This needs to happen!!

[EVS]

40 minutes ago, Catfin said:

Jessa's head has got to be ready to explode about now. 

What will happen tomorrow?

A. Jilly muffin will post many pictures of her spawn

B. Jesse will announce twin (?) pregnancy

C. Derek will be hauled off in a straight jacket, never to be heard from again

I’m guessing both A and B, but I’m hoping for C. 

[DragonFaerie]

3 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

That's what I thought. I still think Jill messed around with the birth because of THEIR SILENCE ON THE MATTER which speaks volumes. If Jill and Derick had just come out and stated that Sam had spent extra time in the NICU due to something like seizures no one would judge them for spending time in the NICU.

After all, when Josie was born prematurely no one said it was JB and Michelle's fault.

YES, YES, YES!

2 hours ago, lascuba said:

Not an expert, but Jill was GBS positive with Israel. She could have had it with Samuel as well and passed on the infection to him. Or maybe he aspirated meconium. 

I'm still laughing that after refusing to allow Samuel's birth to be shown, presumably to avoid getting the criticism they got over Israel's birth, Derick just goes ahead and confirms that Jill fucked up again. Gods bless the person who provoked him into it. 

Ok, I had to look up GBS and now I'm even more furious with Jill.  They tell women if  you are positive for GBS that during labor that you will need an IV drip with antibiotics every 4 hours.  She definitely didn't do this with Israel, but after that and knowing of the dangers - 1/200 kids and she DIDN'T seem to have prenatal care and take care of baby Sammy - she definitely needs to be flogged with a throw it on the ceiling Joy noodle.

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

They may have had insurance, but i'm sure their deductible/copay were also huge.

My late mother had an emergency abdominal surgery, like 15 years ago.  She lived less than 2 miles from the hospital, and as a nurse, immeditely called for 911 and my older brother who was a doctor.  With my late father being a doctor at the hospital, her surgeon and anathesialogist both waved their fees.  Even with insurance and medicare she still had quite a bill.  I can see that if Jill didn't do prenatal care, thus working on their deductible, and then with ambulance, c- section fees, her fees, Izzy's fees, even at 90% coverage that bill is still going to add up - so shame on all of them for not thinking about that.

[Loves2Dance]

2 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I've never believed this. People doesn't pay for content -- it doesn't have to. The Duggars want to be written up in People for the publicity that they receive. More articles in People mean more brand awareness and more money for the things that they are paid for -- TLC episodes, advertising on their social media, etc.

I think that they do receive some compensation -- they get put up in a hotel and get new clothes for a photo shoot. They may get some cash for "exclusive" photos, but there are plenty of people who would pay to get written up in a magazine with that kind of circulation.

They absolutely pay for exclusives. Whether it be Beyonce or the Duggars, if it's an exclusive interview or exclusive photo, the Duggars are signing a contract to only provide People with the info and People pay them. That is pretty standard among most like-magazines. 

Now, their run of the mill write-up articles? Not so much. But exclusives, those they will and do pay for. 

On 2/28/2018 at 10:18 PM, Jynnan tonnix said:

He, Joy, and the boy next to him all have that alternate shirt...Putting the bits I can see together, they appear to read "I am the generation that will abolish abortion".

If they had a real education, they may have learned that we've tried that before and then decided it wasn't such a good idea. Morons.

[Sew Sumi]

Oh, People definitely paid for Jill's wedding photos/story as well as Izzy's birth. Remember there were signs all over the church at Jill's wedding forbidding photography during the ceremony. Not to mention, a three week moratorium on releasing reception pics to social media to cover the People exclusivity contract. 

Derelict's pants are so on fire it's not funny. 

[Annb67]

Someone needs to keep poking the bear and get him to squeal like a pig. Derick is angry and bitter; his secrets are just boiling under the surface. I'm going to pop the popcorn, pour some wine and wait.

[GeeGolly]

I just can not imagine going to my employer and asking for them to pitch in and help pay my medical bills. Who does that?

That is definitely what put Derick into his hate TLC Tweeting frenzy. I think Derick asked and was holding out for TLC to change their mind and they went on and filmed the season ender without them. 

Unentitled folks, growing up in the real world know that they themselves are responsible for paying their bills. Even with insurance, medical help is costly, but they need to get paid just like the employees of Walmart and everyone else does.

And TLC is a business, and although the Duggars seem to be a money maker for them the Duggar 19+ are more interchangeable than a character on a sitcom. Mr Accountant Derick needs to do the math, there are still 12 kids left to be married and spawn children, they don't need Derick just like they don't need Josh. As it stands now Jana and JD are the stars in waiting, everyone else is getting married off in pure boring Duggar form.

Once again Diva Derick, your arrogance and stupidity are showing.

[ginger90]

This is a reply to Derick , I’m leaving the name out

”Derick do you think the presence of cameras during labor caused Jill difficulty? I know stress can cause it to stall.”

seriously???

From the posted tweets it looks like Derick has cracked. Paradise lost........I would love to see the looks on Michelle and Jim Bob’s faces.

[ginger90]

If they supposedly weren’t employed by TLC , why would he expect them to pay?

I want to know where the gofundme, etc. $ really went.

The salary at Walmart isn’t bad, but how much did he actually make? He couldn’t have had paid time off yet , I would guess.

[Caracoa1]

I believe all the money for their show and magazine covers all get deposited into a Duggar Family account which only Boob has access to..he probably pays all expenses on the married couples and they get a small monthly pittance ...those kids should be afraid...when the shit hits the fan... Boob will cut off the Marrieds and hoard that money for himself.

[JoanArc]

Nice catch on the signs, Sew.

So now we know why the DONATE button kept on getting larger. To pay medical bills/keep the lights on. So Derick - you traded away your family's privacy for literally nothing? No money, just hollow fame? I can at least understand money. Does he think Jesus will thank him for all the people Jill led to Christ with her delivery bungles?

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Boo hoo, it took one year to pay off YOUR medical bills? Welcome to the real world.

THIS. He brags about no car payment. Doesn't Dave Ramsey, and any sane person, not have an emergency fund? One that could knock out, or at least mitigate unexpected (but really expected) expenses like this?

I think a Derick meltdown is forthcoming. Jim bob will have his twitter silenced by this afternoon.

[GeeGolly]

I really don't think JB holds power over any of his adult married kids beyond the fucked-uppedness he instilled in them when they were growing up.

I really believe they are leave and cleave parents. He 'paid them back' for their childhood filming with a chunk of wedding money. I believe the adult marrieds have separate contracts with TLC.

Jessa is the one who I think is worried that Derick will tarnish their 'brand'. She is probably up at night trying to figure her next move, which at this point I believe is polite distance from Derick and telling Ben to not to open his mouth, cuz you know Ben is agreeing with Derick's mindset if not his approach.

[MargeGunderson]

JB could not sign a contract with TLC on behalf of other legal adults, ie anyone over 18. That’s not how it works. He could however do so as the representive of Duggar Enterprises  (or whatever they call their family business) and have the other adults as employees or contractors. JB could then pay the adult children, not TLC directly. Still, that would required Derek, Jill, etc. to give permission to be filmed and agree to be contractors/employees of Duggar Enterprises. So if they haven’t been paid, somewhere along the line they actually agreed to not be paid. Or, this is another stupid word parsing of Derek’s - he just wasn’t paid directly from TLC or People, he got a check from JB. 

[sleepysuzy]

13 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

So while I am about 99.9% sure that Sam's 2-week stay in the NICU is likely due to Jill botching things up, for the medical experts on this thread, is there ANY other reason that a full-term baby could possibly stay in the NICU for two weeks? I just want to check.

Part of me wants to goad Derick on Twitter and tell him he should demand his compensation from People for the pictures.

I am not a medical expert, but I've had more personal experience on this matter than most.

All four of my full-time babies (born between 38 and 40 weeks) went to the NICU. The first and second were shorter stays, 7 and 5 days, respectively. The third was 28 days, and the fourth was 14 days. Their diagnoses were: spontaneous pneumothorax,  fluid in the lungs, neuroendocrine cell hyperplasia of infancy and meconium aspiration syndrome,  and idiopathic dysphagia causing aspiration pneumonia.  All four had tachypnea as the primary symptom,  with respiratory rates ranging from high 70s to over 100. 

I had great prenatal care with all four pregnancies. The first was a csection and the other three were vbac. No prenatal tests indicated anything was amiss, nor could they have done so. My two youngest did qualify  for  Medicaid, as they came home on feeding tubes for months, and my third has oxygen support and a pulse oximeter as well, and qualified for private duty nurses for 16 hours a day.

They are all fine now. We even did genetic testing, but could not find a common underlying cause for their lung problems at birth.

Given my experience, I will never make assumptions about why another mom is in the NICU. Most of the other babies were premature,  and I'm sure we looked out of place there. My sickest baby was also my largest, 11 lbs, so she was HUGE compared to the rest of the babies around her. She even had to be transferred to another NICU after ten days because she needed to see specialists there. While we were there we did meet a few other moms with full term babies who had various rare disorders. 

ETA: I also had members of the very active homebirth and anti-vax crowd in my community suggest that hospital birthing and vaccinations were the cause of my babies' illnesses. That door swings both ways.

Edited March 8, 2018 by sleepysuzy

[ginger90]

5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Oh, People definitely paid for Jill's wedding photos/story as well as Izzy's birth. Remember there were signs all over the church at Jill's wedding forbidding photography during the ceremony. Not to mention, a three week moratorium on releasing reception pics to social media to cover the People exclusivity contract. 

Derelict's pants are so on fire it's not funny. 

Derick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

Edited March 8, 2018 by ginger90

[ginger90]

Disregard

Edited March 8, 2018 by ginger90

[MargeGunderson]

9 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Derick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

I will pay someone in tater tot casserole to straight up ask Derick why they did any of the shows if they weren’t getting paid. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

'hadDerick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

So if he "had a great job" and was able to "pay for it just fine", why did it take a whole year to pay off? Oh, because he more or less gave up (or was fired from) said "great job" with a huge bill still to pay off...

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

Nice catch on the signs, Sew.

So now we know why the DONATE button kept on getting larger. To pay medical bills/keep the lights on. So Derick - you traded away your family's privacy for literally nothing? No money, just hollow fame? I can at least understand money. Does he think Jesus will thank him for all the people Jill led to Christ with her delivery bungles?

THIS. He brags about no car payment. Doesn't Dave Ramsey, and any sane person, not have an emergency fund? One that could knock out, or at least mitigate unexpected (but really expected) expenses like this?

I think a Derick meltdown is forthcoming. Jim bob will have his twitter silenced by this afternoon.

And if the Dillards did not specify that the money raised for their ministry would be going to outstanding medical bills, then Derrick has opened himself up to a fraud investigation.  Does anyone remember if their ministry page listed medical bills as a reason to donate?  I'm sure in Derrick's mind, this was a reasonable use of donated funds, but probably not in a court of law.  If I had donated money for an overseas mission that went to pay for medical bills incurred before the mission began, I would be calling my state's attorney generals office to complain about fraud.

[ginger90]

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And no, as far as we could tell, we were volunteers and hadn’t been paid anything 4 the show

As far as they could tell?

Interesting though that Derick is including Jill in his tweets now. Previously it was “I”, now it’s “we”.

2 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

And if the Dillards did not specify that the money raised for their ministry would be going to outstanding medical bills, then Derrick has opened himself up to a fraud investigation.  Does anyone remember if their ministry page listed medical bills as a reason to donate?  I'm sure in Derrick's mind, this was a reasonable use of donated funds, but probably not in a court of law.  If I had donated money for an overseas mission that went to pay for medical bills incurred before the mission began, I would be calling my state's attorney generals office to complain about fraud.

I believe at least one included insurance. I don’t recall medical bills being mentioned.

Edited March 8, 2018 by ginger90

[JoanArc]

Volunteers. How stupid does he think we are? he's been hanging around childlike people for too long.

Someone ask if Jill was paid for the Kelly interview. The image licencing fee and all that. I'll eat my hat if she did that for free, or even voluntarily.

Edited March 8, 2018 by JoanArc

[Catfin]

How long before mama comes by to help? Glad I'm working from home today so I can check in on the forum. 

[ginger90]

Just now, Catfin said:

How long before mama comes by to help? Glad I'm working from home today so I can check in on the forum. 

Cathy is slacking on this one!

[Mollie]

51 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Derick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

This is just another case of Derick equivocating again.  TLC doesn't pay for filming, but only for episodes aired.  The full episodes are purchased from Figure 8 Films, the production company. (https://www.figure8films.tv/)  Whatever contract the Dillards had was with Figure 8 Films.

Derick says, "As far as we could tell, we were volunteers and hadn't been paid anything 4 the show."  They weren't paid anything because Samuel's birth has not been shown on a Counting On episode.  And it may never be shown.

"We could pay for it fine; I had a great job."  Want to know what that great job was?  According to Derick's Linkedin account, he was a missionary for Dillard Family Ministries.  Translation:  collecting donations.

I'm really surprised that his handlers at the Cross Church School of Ministry don't try to give him some counseling and instruction about integrity and telling the truth.  He is tarnishing their school.  Feel free to give them your opinion about Derick's claims: http://www.crosschurchschool.com/contact/

[saylubee]

57 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Derick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

 

The only way this is “true” is if in the contract TLC already had written one or two specials a year at the current rate, no matter the content.  I can’t really see Jim Bob signing such a bad contract for the family, but maybe it was leftover from the days of VSE shows instead of the episodic format.  I still can’t imagine the People covers weren’t paid for, but maybe that tied into the TLC contract as well (you will do X amount of advertising for free of our choosing is a common clause).

If it truly was a situation where Jim Bob controlled the money, the adults just signed filming releases, and Jill and Derick truly didn’t get any extra money because of semantics... okay I can kind of understand asking TLC for help.  But it also equally blows my mind that Jim Bob would be working under such a bad contract after so many seasons on the show.

AND we know that Ben and Jessa renegotiated some kind of new contract shortly after they were married from when they visited the TLC headquarters.  Jill and Derick should have had the same opportunity.  In addition, we know that when Counting On was supposed to focus on Jill and Jessa.  There’s no way new contracts weren’t signed (possibly still paying Duggar LLCs) at that time.

 

 

Also I believe Derick is stretching the truth just a little (surprise, surprise).  The medical bills and show he is referring to is from Izzy’s birth.  Samuel was in the NICU.  It hasn’t been a year since Samuel’s birth.

Edited March 8, 2018 by saylubee

[graefin]

33 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

As far as they could tell?

Haha, I know, right? He sounds like such an idiot. He doesn't know whether he was paid? I mean, either he was or he wasn't. Why the need for the qualifier? 

And who the hell "volunteers" to be on a TV show? He must think those reading his tweets are as dumb as he is.

50 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

I will pay someone in tater tot casserole to straight up ask Derick why they did any of the shows if they weren’t getting paid. 

And he can't claim "because ministry" like his in-laws like to without contradicting his earlier statement that TLC wouldn't allow them to push their religious agenda.

[bigskygirl]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I just can not imagine going to my employer and asking for them to pitch in and help pay my medical bills. Who does that?

That is definitely what put Derick into his hate TLC Tweeting frenzy. I think Derick asked and was holding out for TLC to change their mind and they went on and filmed the season ender without them. 

Unentitled folks, growing up in the real world know that they themselves are responsible for paying their bills. Even with insurance, medical help is costly, but they need to get paid just like the employees of Walmart and everyone else does.

And TLC is a business, and although the Duggars seem to be a money maker for them the Duggar 19+ are more interchangeable than a character on a sitcom. Mr Accountant Derick needs to do the math, there are still 12 kids left to be married and spawn children, they don't need Derick just like they don't need Josh. As it stands now Jana and JD are the stars in waiting, everyone else is getting married off in pure boring Duggar form.

Once again Diva Derick, your arrogance and stupidity are showing.

The place I was working at when my hubby was diagnosed with Acute Renal Failure did some fundraising for us by having three bake sales during the holiday Christmas season, but I did not demand they pay his medical bills. We also got bill assistance at the hospital, and the one doctor who did the shunt/fistula in my husband's arm took a certain percentage off his bill without us asking his billing department for any help. We paid off the rest of his bills, and our regular monthly bills by ourselves. Luckily my husband qualified for Medicare and had insurance when he went back to work. It was a major pain in the behind to make sure Medicare and his employer's insurance was billed the right way, but we survived. We only paid $20.00 when he went to Seattle for his transplant on one of his bills from the hospital in Seattle.

I wonder if this is a major part of the reason why Derelict does not care for Izzy. Does he look at Izzy and think my life would be so different if I did not have a kid so fast after getting married so fast. He hates his life, but he as no one else to blame. His mother defends him right and left. Jill is in her own little world. Izzy and Sammy are suffering. I swear Jill and Derelict are Smuggar and Anna the second. I bet Smuggar is probably glad Derelict is taking some of the heat off of him right now. Derelict is going to blow a gasket one day, and it is not going to be pretty.

Edited March 8, 2018 by bigskygirl

[Marigold]

Derick is delusional and an ass.  We have established that a long time ago. Derick has no fans here. 

I gotta wonder what is motivating him to tweet all this.  There must be some element of truth here but I cannot figure out what it is. Derick is a loose cannon.  Did Derick inadvertently expose skeletons while firing off?  

Many have thought that the Duggar kids were exploited as children in various ways.  Is it possible that Delusional Derick is the only one who said "that's enough of that" and walked away?

 

And yes, he is talking about Izzy because he mentions it took a year to pay the NICU bills and Sam is only 8 months old.  Remember there was that piece right after Izzy's birth where someone said the Duggs were in the hospital cafeteria and they were seen crying & looking sad.  That would match to what Derick disclosed about a 2 week NICU stay.  So, Izzy's birth was filmed and they made no money from it?  If that is the case, we now know why Sam's birth was not filmed.

This is all very puzzling and bizarre.  Typical for Derick. 

[JoanArc]

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 Remember there was that piece right after Izzy's birth where someone said the Duggs were in the hospital cafeteria and they were seen crying & looking sad

That was Sam's birth, not Izzy.

[Marigold]

4 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

That was Sam's birth, not Izzy.

Was it Sam?  

Two odd births, hard to remember which one it was! Could've been either! or both. Jill is quite a midwife. 

Edited March 8, 2018 by Marigold

[saylubee]

Izzy was born via emergency c-section in the hospital, but as far as we know had no complications from that (NICU, etc).  He and Jill were home within an appropriate amount of time.

Samuel was born via c-section after trying a VBAC at home.  It’s assumed it was an emergency C-section, but we don’t know if the hospital let Jill labor first.  Samuel spent two weeks in the NICU.

Edited March 8, 2018 by saylubee

[Annb67]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Derick wants to focus on what they didn’t receive, instead of what they did receive. Just one more thing that says a lot about him as a person , IMO.

Hell yes!! This is getting good. Keep talking....I'll wait.

[Marigold]

20 minutes ago, saylubee said:

Izzy was born via emergency c-section in the hospital, but as far as we know had no complications from that (NICU, etc).  He and Jill were home within an appropriate amount of time.

Samuel was born via c-section after trying a VBAC at home.  It’s assumed it was an emergency C-section, but we don’t know if the hospital let Jill labor first.  Samuel spent two weeks in the NICU.

 

That's how I remember it too!

But Derick said it took a year to pay off the NICU bill so something doesn't add up here. Sam is less than a year old.

 

Edit: just noticed that Derick talks about TLC making money off of the birth special.  That can't be Sam because there was no birth special, which makes sense, oddly enough, because if the Dillards had a bad experience with Israel's birth and not getting paid, why would they film Sam? 

Edited March 8, 2018 by Marigold

[lascuba]

"As far as we know"? How can you not know? Unless Jim Bob has that much control that they don't even bother to ask, and TLC/Figure 8 is happy having the kidults sign on as "volunteers" while saving the contract involving many for Jim Bob. Which I'd find really surprising. Jim Bob is an asshole but it's a bit much to tell his kids that they're volunteering. But then, I don't think Derick is directly lying, either. Twisting things so he gets off on technicalities, yes, but I'm not sure how "as far as we could tell, we were volunteers," can be twisted.

The family must be flipping over all this speculation given life by Derick.

[SMama]

Derick stated it took a year to pay the medical bills, I did not see a reference to NICU.

[lascuba]

10 minutes ago, Marigold said:

That's how I remember it too!

But Derick said it took a year to pay off the NICU bill so something doesn't add up here. Sam is less than a year old.

 

Edit: just noticed that Derick talks about TLC making money off of the birth special.  That can't be Sam because there was no birth special, which makes sense, oddly enough, because if the Dillards had a bad experience with Israel's birth and not getting paid, why would they film Sam? 

He said that it took a year to pay off the  medical expenses from the birth, no mention of NICU.

[Annb67]

If you seem sympathetic with Derick and his plight you'd probably get him to spill. Oh Derick I'm so sorry you were taken advantage of and forced to appear on TV. That's horrible. Bless your heart. Tell me more. Lol

[JoanArc]

42 minutes ago, Marigold said:

Was it Sam?  

Two odd births, hard to remember which one it was! Could've been either! or both. Jill is quite a midwife. 

Sam. I remember because there was little to no info about that birth coming out - and we were speculating Jill coulda had a hysterectomy. I'm sure Dr. Jill thinks hysterectomies make you more fertile or something.

 

7 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

If you seem sympathetic with Derick and his plight you'd probably get him to spill. Oh Derick I'm so sorry you were taken advantage of and forced to appear on TV. That's horrible. Bless your heart. Tell me more. Lol

"I hope your new job has good benefits, you deserve it!" Kill him with kindness!

[DkNNy79]

Rather than be upset with TLC, he should be upset with his father in law.  I'm assuming Jim Bob is the "mastermind" behind all the contracts and the money behind their show and specials.  His in-laws are also profiting off the birth and they at least are related to him (not TLC), maybe he should've appealed to them for assistance in paying his medical bills instead.

Edit: Maybe he did appeal to his in-laws and got nowhere, so he reached out to TLC thinking they might be more amenable.

Edited March 8, 2018 by DkNNy79

[Abmis]

Derick had his oral surgery right after Izzy was born.  How the heck did they pay for that, and his on going orthodontic work?

I'm not a Jill fan, but how can someone who is so emotionally fragile that they still cry about being frightened by a falling shower rack months after it happened, live with such an asshole?  His self-importance and constant need to always be right must be wearing her down to nothing.  She has no life skills, no education, and has had it drilled into her that she's nothing but a baby making helpmeet so I assume she just takes it.   In the episode where she hosted the bible study  at their house in CA, I thought she was such a cold fish to the woman who was crying about her problems with her husband.  Now I'm wondering if she was in shock that a helpmeet would dare admit that her headship was a jerk and was making her miserable.   That doesn't happen in Jill's world, not even with Anna.  I think Jill is miserable and doesn't even know it.

I've thought for a long time that Jill wearing pants and possibly having pierced her nose was some weird way of Derick kind of pimping her out.  Same with all the recent bed and bedroom pictures.  I'm sure he controls what she posts on social media and is making her post those things.  I'm not sure why.  Maybe to try to impress that the college kids that he's a cool guy with a cool pants wearing wife.   Maybe the bedroom pics are to try to convince some one that he's desirable.   Epic fail on that one!  I do think his Pistol Pete years were the happiest of his life, and that he'd love to be a college kid again.   Other than that I all I can say is that there's something not right about that boy. 

[saylubee]

I assume that Izzy’s birth hit whatever out of pocket maximums they had at Walmart, so Derick rushed to get the surgery done before leaving.

[BitterApple]

I have no doubts in my mind that even though the kiddults sign their own contracts, any money they receive is somehow funneled into the family pot and Boob doles out allowances as he sees fit. The exception is probably Jeremy and Jinger. 

Derick is a delusional jackass for thinking TLC should contribute to medical expenses, but I'm also wondering if he's pissed off that Boob didn't pick up the tab. Something's going on behind the scenes that's causing Derick to spill tea like a broken pitcher. I just don't know what it is.

[Lunera]

First of all, what adult man volunteers to be on a show, when he has such a great paying job? He was even willing to jeopardize that "good job" to appear on the show. From what I remember he and Jill went on several promotion trips and made tons of appearances, while he was still new at Walmart. Since she was the first married/pregnant Duggar daughter the excitement was huge, I remember they were flown to New York and even saw a Broadway musical. He had no problem with having his wedding and honeymoon paid for either. Not TLCs fault he never negotiated any pay for his appearances but he did get tons of freebies and a huge social media following who he is able to grift from, so there's that. 

[bigskygirl]

8 minutes ago, Abmis said:

Derick had his oral surgery right after Izzy was born.  How the heck did they pay for that, and his on going orthodontic work?

I'm not a Jill fan, but how can someone who is so emotionally fragile that they still cry about being frightened by a falling shower rack months after it happened, live with such an asshole?  His self-importance and constant need to always be right must be wearing her down to nothing.  She has no life skills, no education, and has had it drilled into her that she's nothing but a baby making helpmeet so I assume she just takes it.   In the episode where she hosted the bible study  at their house in CA, I thought she was such a cold fish to the woman who was crying about her problems with her husband.  Now I'm wondering if she was in shock that a helpmeet would dare admit that her headship was a jerk and was making her miserable.   That doesn't happen in Jill's world, not even with Anna.  I think Jill is miserable and doesn't even know it.

I've thought for a long time that Jill wearing pants and possibly having pierced her nose was some weird way of Derick kind of pimping her out.  Same with all the recent bed and bedroom pictures.  I'm sure he controls what she posts on social media and is making her post those things.  I'm not sure why.  Maybe to try to impress that the college kids that he's a cool guy with a cool pants wearing wife.   Maybe the bedroom pics are to try to convince some one that he's desirable.   Epic fail on that one!  I do think his Pistol Pete years were the happiest of his life, and that he'd love to be a college kid again.   Other than that I all I can say is that there's something not right about that boy. 

I see your point of view, but it takes two to make a marriage work unless there is abuse or cheating going on. I do not think Derelict is completely running the show here. I think Jill is jealous and envious of her sisters, and she has been taught by day one how to use your marriage and children to prove everything is fine and dandy. Something is terribly wrong with the both of them. He did seem fine while they were courting, and he did not seem to fall off the hinges until the molestation news came out. He wanted to get the heck out of dodge quickly, but it back fired too fast for his taste. I think there are things going behind the scenes we have no clue about. They both need professional help ASAP, but sadly I do not see it happening. I see Derelict going down the same road Smugly Do Rite went down. You would think Cathy would see the writing on the wall, but she is too busy convincing the rest of us God saved her life or defending her idiot son instead of trying to get the help he and his wife needs. JB is probably more pissed off about Derelict, but too stupid to see his daughter and son-in-law needs some major help.

[Mya]

My goodness Derrick is really spilling some tea lately.  Do I buy that they didn't get paid? Nope not a chance maybe he is trying to gain some sympathy for more donations grifting at its best.  He is so odd.

[BitterApple]

30 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

I see your point of view, but it takes two to make a marriage work unless there is abuse or cheating going on. I do not think Derelict is completely running the show here. I think Jill is jealous and envious of her sisters, and she has been taught by day one how to use your marriage and children to prove everything is fine and dandy. 

I agree. I don't think Derick is physically or verbally abusive to Jill, but I do believe he's resentful and frustrated that he's stuck with a wife who's a 12 year-old in a 26 year-old's body. Both Derick and Jill looked great on paper, but the reality isn't measuring up. They rushed into marriage and now get to spend their lives wishing they'd done things differently. Not a very fun place to be. 

[bigskygirl]

7 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I agree. I don't think Derick is physically or verbally abusive to Jill, but I do believe he's resentful and frustrated that he's stuck with a wife who's a 12 year-old in a 26 year-old's body. Both Derick and Jill looked great on paper, but the reality isn't measuring up. They rushed into marriage and now get to spend their lives wishing they'd done things differently. Not a very fun place to be. 

Buyer beware!

[PradaKitty]

I wonder if Jill’s siblings like Derrick or if they think he’s a jerk.  Of course, Jill isn’t the favorite sister for many of them excluding Joy) so maybe they’re happy to keep their distance. 

[bigskygirl]

14 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

I wonder if Jill’s siblings like Derrick or if they think he’s a jerk.  Of course, Jill isn’t the favorite sister for many of them excluding Joy) so maybe they’re happy to keep their distance. 

I think there were rumors going around Jeremy did not like Derelict. I take it with a grain of salt. I am sure JB is not happy with him right now. Jessa might be fuming over what is going on with Derelict also because he might be rocking the TLC money train.