Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[latetotheparty]

9 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel)

 

Remember this?  All these issues are not cut and dry.  My son is gay and through his friends and acquaintances, many of whom are straight, we know several transgender folks, going both ways.  It is such a confusing and difficult journey.  The folks we know had a rough time of it, and are shunned by family.  I realize not all are. No one would choose it I would imagine.  

I have so many feels about that book. SO MANY. 

[ariel]

57 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

So what  would you like to be done to me? I am a  Christian ,  maybe  not one who believes like the Duggars  but one who worships the same God.

No war on you, but the Duggars & their ilk claim to speak for all Christians and if you don't believe exactly what they believe, you aren't a real Christian, need conversion, & donate so they can help you see your evil ways.  That's insulting to the many different flavors of Christianity.

[crazycatlady58]

Ariel, I understand  what you are saying , and yes as an Orthodox  Christian  they probably  would  say I was going  to hell. The problem  I have with the wording  is it takes  away their right  to believe  as they wish. I do not agree  with it  and I will stand with any Transgender  person  to become  what they wish ( I am sorry that is not the best wording  but I do not know how  to say it better) I am uncomfortable  having a " war"  on anyones believe . I am bowing  out of the conversation  before  the mods shut it down . 

[Readalot]

4 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel)

 

Remember this?  All these issues are not cut and dry.  My son is gay and through his friends and acquaintances, many of whom are straight, we know several transgender folks, going both ways.  It is such a confusing and difficult journey.  The folks we know had a rough time of it, and are shunned by family.  I realize not all are. No one would choose it I would imagine.  

Intense book. I'm glad I read it. I recommended it to everyone. 

[Scarlett45]

5 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_(novel)

 

Remember this?  All these issues are not cut and dry.  My son is gay and through his friends and acquaintances, many of whom are straight, we know several transgender folks, going both ways.  It is such a confusing and difficult journey.  The folks we know had a rough time of it, and are shunned by family.  I realize not all are. No one would choose it I would imagine.  

I enjoyed the book MiddleSex. I know that being transgender is not the same as being intersex (obviously) but I wonder if there are any intersex kids in Jazz's gender bender club. 

I wonder what ignorant things Derrick would say about intersex people. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by Scarlett45
Kept it on topic about the Dillards

[Jellybeans]

14 hours ago, Nysha said:

Isn't the Unitarian church based on peace and acceptance? 

In theory.  But like many Churches everywhere, they have entered the world of politics.  At least in my town.  

[Churchhoney]

14 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

We need cult status. Go big or go home, right? Will we need a Donate button?

You always need a Donate button.

Maybe even a Donut button.

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I wish someone would start a cult based on peace and acceptance. I real one. I'm guessing there's enough passages in the Bible to support peace and acceptance. 

I elect @Churchhoney to be the Gothard. I can be a therapist (I'm licensed, LOL). Who else is in?

I will plan all the events!  Hope you are good with Drag Queens.  

16 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Ariel, I understand  what you are saying , and yes as an Orthodox  Christian  they probably  would  say I was going  to hell. The problem  I have with the wording  is it takes  away their right  to believe  as they wish. I do not agree  with it  and I will stand with any Transgender  person  to become  what they wish ( I am sorry that is not the best wording  but I do not know how  to say it better) I am uncomfortable  having a " war"  on anyones believe . I am bowing  out of the conversation  before  the mods shut it down . 

The only war I want is against Michelle's green shirt.  I think we can all agree on that!  The rest?  Live and let live.  Unless you try to take away anyone's rights to live freely.  Then its ON!

[ginger90]

Step away Derick, go cook a meal or something

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/894911024414900224?p=v

[xwordfanatik]

20 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Step away Derick, go cook a meal or something

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/894911024414900224?p=v

Yes!  I'm not on Twitter, and don't feel the need to be.  I do enjoy snarking about Dumbshit's posts.  The comments are fun to read.

I just don't get the whole Twitter thing.  Why Dumbshit Derek and the CIC are addicts, I can't even guess.

Edited August 8, 2017 by xwordfanatik
wrong acronym. I'm old.

[Arwen Evenstar]

33 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Step away Derick, go cook a meal or something

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/894911024414900224?p=v

Someone threw The Screaming Grub back in his face! LOL

[ariel]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Step away Derick, go cook a meal or something

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/894911024414900224?p=v

 Good grief, it sounds like he's howling at the moon.  I think he should be checked out for rabies.

eta - I don't get that "fear of the lord" thing.  Why would someone want to worship a deity that they are afraid of?

Edited August 8, 2017 by ariel

[Annb67]

Wow Derick YOUR god is not a happy one is he? If you want anyone to follow your god I would cool it with all of the hating and smiting speech. Besides that you just need your ass kicked.

[GeeGolly]

So Derick is liking all the Twitter action his Tweets provoke?

Fear and hate are states of being I rather not indulge. Hate is such a strong and ugly feeling. If I think too long and too hard about Derick I really start to feel sorry for him and this journey through life. To me it feels intensely negative and without much peace and joy.

Life throws enough shit most folks way, why chose to live in fear and hate?

[sometimesy]

He's just a ray of sunshine isn't he. 

[Temperance]

10 hours ago, Jellybeans said:

In theory.  But like many Churches everywhere, they have entered the world of politics.  At least in my town.  

Peace and acceptance are political concepts. 

[ariel]

8 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Peace and acceptance are political concepts. 

I was thinking the same.  What's so funny about peace, love, & understanding?

[Sew Sumi]

Elvis Costello's in da hizzy!

[Fuzzysox]

2 hours ago, sometimesy said:

He's just a ray of sunshine isn't he. 

Anti-antidepressants might fix his sunny disposition. The boy sounds very depressed most days. He needs to get out of whatever funk he is in and re-enter into the real world of working and taking care of his family. #failureasanadult

[scriggle]

Can someone enlighten this lapsed catholic/atheist why Derrick and other fundies always quote the Old Testament? I rarely see any New Testament quotes which seems odd to me, after all they're espousing everyone must accept Jesus as their savior.

[Sew Sumi]

I don't recall him being this bad before Sammy was born. Yes, he was still an obnoxious twat before, but he's ramped the fundie crazy up to 11. He's up there with stalwarts like Michael Pearl, Voddie Baucham, and Doug Phillips before he (apparently) dumped his wife to live the life of a American expatriate in Western Europe, hanging out most days with a burlesque dancer named Flo. 

Maybe we have this to look forward to when Derelict and his brothers in law have their midlife crises. 

[ariel]

36 minutes ago, scriggle said:

Can someone enlighten this lapsed catholic/atheist why Derrick and other fundies always quote the Old Testament? I rarely see any New Testament quotes which seems odd to me, after all they're espousing everyone must accept Jesus as their savior.

They pick & chose what testament best serves their needs and bottom line - cherry picking the bible.  If they followed the old testament, they would observe Jewish Beliefs.  They don't with the exception that some of the Duggars claim to not eat pork.

Edited August 9, 2017 by ariel

[DangerousMinds]

This lapsed Catholic/now atheist agrees. Why not post more of Jesus's own words? That's what I remember most from the bible.

[ginger90]

Besides the fact he took one sentence, and instead of quoting it, switched it up a bit to seem like he's so profound, the hash tag seems a bit weird. What makes me happy is, there's not one response, as of now!

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/895036490975109120?p=v

[ginger90]

This is the part he should think about

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

[Jellybeans]

12 hours ago, Temperance said:

Peace and acceptance are political concepts. 

Some people think so, yes.

I am not one of them.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Jellybeans

[ginger90]

I'll quote someone else, like Derick does, lol

John Mark Green — 'People at war with themselves will always cause collateral damage in the lives of those around them.'

[Churchhoney]

11 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Elvis Costello's in da hizzy!

EC's always in da hizzy. 

And the angels wanna wear my red shoes, too. 

8 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

This lapsed Catholic/now atheist agrees. Why not post more of Jesus's own words? That's what I remember most from the bible.

Because fearful, insecure, resentful, worried-they're-slipping-out-of-pole-position, control-freaky people populate this religion pretty  much entirely? ....

And since Jesus was none of those, he doesn't resonate with them. It's why they're so old-testament all the time.

They'd really be much more at home in the Bronze Age or thereabouts, I think. 

I feel sorry for them. Sad psychologies they've got. But they're a damn blight on society at the same time. 

Edited August 9, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Aja]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Besides the fact he took one sentence, and instead of quoting it, switched it up a bit to seem like he's so profound, the hash tag seems a bit weird. What makes me happy is, there's not one response, as of now!

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/895036490975109120?p=v

Oh, there are lots of responses now! The number of Christians calling him out and defending their faith against the Duggar brand of self-righteousness and hate is absolutely beautiful. I REALLY hope he at least reads those.

[Normades]

These people make you understand why Ghandi said, "I like your Christ.  I do not like your Christians.  Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

[TresGatos]

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I will plan all the events!  Hope you are good with Drag Queens.

A local library just hosted an event with Drag Queen reading children's books to children. Parents had to register in advance and it filled up fast but the Evangelical outrage that poured forth! I am hoping the controversy would bring Ru Paul and some of her girls to town!

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Good grief, it sounds like he's howling at the moon.  I think he should be checked out for rabies.

This. Is. So. True.

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His word is always perfect!

Well, He did apologize for the Flood and said He would never do it again, that next time he would smote us all with Divine Fire (and not the really cool drag queen Divine either). Also, the whole killing of all those innocent Egyptian firstborns seems pretty flawed. Here's a funny aside...my kids had Precious Moments (King James) Bibles that their grandmother had given them which was, naturally, illustrated with Precious Moments drawings. One day they ran across my huge Catholic bible with all the full color reproductions of Old Master paintings and they were horrified! "What is that Angel doing with a sword? What's he doing to that baby!!!!?" That Christmas, my older son, who was about 7 at the time, went up to his Precious Moments loving grandmother and this conversation happened: Boy: "Did you know they nailed Jesus to a cross?" Grandma: "Yes." Boy: "They nailed Jesus to a cross!" G'Ma: "Yes, honey, I know." Boy (very sincerely and solemnly): "They didn't have any glue." 

[Absolom]

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

[Caracoa1]

Derrick needs to concentrate on his own soul and min his own dam business about the souls of everyone else on earth!  What's it to him if only he and his family are the only ones in Heaven!?

[Lunera]

Jill posted a picture of Sam. Apparently I'm not blocked, maybe my phone was being weird. They're all acting like nothing happened, I doubt TLC has done anything about Derick. They're not cancelling anytime soon...

[toodles]

8 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

So does this mean Derilick is getting a job or what?  Or is he going to sit around all day and post hateful things on twitter?  He has a family of three to support.  

And what about the donations people made.  Is he going to give them back?  A rhetorical question, I know.  He was a washout at Walmart (I'm making an assumption here), a washout as a "missionary" and he is umemployed.  Well, except for Counting On and I don't think that will last much longer.

And although I didn't think it was possible, for now he is the most reviled Duggar of them all.  I didn't think anything could kick Josh out of that position.

Excellent job at husband choosing, Boob.  You picked a real winner here!!

[Arwen Evenstar]

7 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

In so many words, realized they couldn't hack it. No shame in that, but I hope they took their DONATE button down. Missionary work is NOT for everyone.  Even the rigors of  missioncationing was too much for them.

Odd photo with Izzy in a suit, Muffy is a frumpy, lumpy, dumpy mess (is she barefoot with shoes next to her). Scruffy is wearing sandals. Little Sammy looks cute. Izzy really looks nice and is for once, clean and happy looking. He's such a lovely little boy.

For the sake of Jill's mental health, it's just as well she gets to stay here. They were pretty tight lipped about why they are staying put. I'm fine with that, since they have been under so much scrutiny. I believe everyone is entitled to at least one secret, and they may have finally seen the wisdom in retiring from public life.

Now if Derick would just STFU with his tweets, that would be gravy.

[JoanArc]

20 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

He failed like Jermey.

[Aja]

11 minutes ago, Caracoa1 said:

Derrick needs to concentrate on his own soul and min his own dam business about the souls of everyone else on earth!  What's it to him if only he and his family are the only ones in Heaven!?

You'd think that's what he'd want, since he despises humanity so thoroughly. This shit does my head in. Jesus loves unconditionally--under certain, very specific conditions. God created us in His image--and we all were born evil, vile beings begat of "original sin". Of course, original sin is necessary to create the armies of babies the Lord wants them all to have (more vile beings to sin and offend God with their very existence...I guess?), which is totally gross and disgusting and immoral, unless you've had a ceremony when you were eighteen years old with a person you just met three weeks ago that you have spent exactly zero minutes alone with, because once that happens, you are a total expert and authority on sex and relationships.

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Through others' numerous efforts of community development (interpretive dance), skills training (friendship bracelets), sports outreach (threw football at brown orphan once), and local church ministry (more interpretive dance), a strong foundation has been laid (SINNER!!!!) that I believe the Lord will continue to grow (more and more interpretive dances!) for many years seasons to come.      

Bolding and strikethroughs mine.

[lascuba]

26 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

SOS fired him?

[Natalie68]

27 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

The blind item came out?  HA!  I am thinking they are bringing more of a negative light to SOS than positive.  

[Oldernowiser]

26 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

 TLC said screw this, we're done paying to ship you and entire camera crew down to DA four times a year. Nobody likes you that much...not the DAers, not the crew and apparently not the viewers. So screw it.

[doodlebug]

50 minutes ago, Absolom said:

The Dillard Family Blog has up a new post that they will be remaining in NWA.

A New Direction in Ministry: https://www.dillardfamily.com/dillard family blog?ID=699ba8f6-f66d-4650-aec9-5b53d85078e7

So what happened?

Well, it certainly gives some validation to the rumors that either Jill and/or Samuel have ongoing issues relating to the birth.

Meanwhile, the people of El Salvador are breathing a sigh of relief.  No more Picasso Face Derick, Fraidy Cat Jill, or Manipulative Giant Baby.  The interpretive dance community is undoubtedly heartbroken.

ETA: I also think his recent antics on twitter made TLC decide that they cannot justify the expense of sending a crew to CA to tape them doing nothing. And, despite his claims otherwise, the vast majority of their financial support comes from TLC.  No TLC in El Salvador, no Dillards.

Edited August 9, 2017 by doodlebug
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[Lunera]

Wait, so they scammed people out of donations money that they were supposed to use on their supposed extended "mission" in CA? They asked for 24k because they obviously wanted to stay for a while but they came back after 3 months and decided not to go back but won't return the money. This money was gonna support them in CA and is basically now supporting them in NWA which is many times more expensive. 

I agree, I think SOS got rid of them because they kept calling Derick out about his missioncation. Now he'll be doing the lord's work through twitter. DONATE!

Edited August 9, 2017 by Lunera

[Arwen Evenstar]

5 minutes ago, Aja said:

 

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Through others' numerous efforts of community development (interpretive dance), skills training (friendship bracelets), sports outreach (threw football at brown orphan once), and local church ministry (more interpretive dance), a strong foundation has been laid (SINNER!!!!) that I believe the Lord will continue to grow (more and more interpretive dances!) for many years seasons to come.      

Bolding and strikethroughs mine.

@Aja: Have I told you lately that I love you? Brilliant post. 

Let's not forget finishing the piñata of the little girl who died and serving stingy portions of banana bread. And who can forget only allowing the orphans to have one crayon at a time?

6 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

 The interpretive dance community is undoubtedly heartbroken.

They are bereft.

[Sew Sumi]

So, does this mean that Derelict will have to get a...gasp....job?

Who am I kidding?

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

So, does this mean that Derelict will have to get a...gasp....job?

Who am I kidding?

Bin is only too happy to pass the baton, I mean toilet brush, on to Derick.

[doodlebug]

1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

So, does this mean that Derelict will have to get a...gasp....job?

Who am I kidding?

He will get a job like Ben has a job, like Smuggar has a job...

[lascuba]

I'd like to think that they donations they got were so paltry that they decided to give up on the fiction that they were doing anything in DA. 

Maybe it's just something boring like their contract with SOS was always due to expire now but they kept that under wraps and pretended they were going to be in DA indefinitely. 

[floridamom]

Well, well, what do we have here? A typical "Duggar statement". Derick doesn't say WHY they are staying in NW Arkansas other than he prayed about it? WHY did he pray about it? I think because he was released from SOS Ministries. Jill was NOT an asset in their eyes and was not qualified to be any kind of real missionary. Derick is attached to her, so even though he has a college degree, it's not in 'seminary-missionary"...it's in accounting, so HE didn't qualify either.

I also believe something is going on, healthwise, with either Jill, Sam or both of them. In that photo, Jill doesn't look like a frump because she just gave birth a month ago, she just doesn't look WELL.

Derick's tweets also didn't help his case even in the eyes of SOS. Don't worry, folks, things have a way of coming to light., Remember the Duggar family's family's saying: "Your sins shall find you out".

Now, let's see if they return that donation money FOR THEIR MINISTRY that they received.

[Sew Sumi]

Thinking back to their absence at the After Show, I wonder if TLC refused to film them in DA any longer, especially given this latest mess. 

I also wonder if Boob will evict the Dullards to a lesser property and install Princess Jessa at the Pool House? JoKen need a place to live in less than a month, y'all!