Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[galaxychaser]

🤮 obviously they lotioned up on Valentine’s Day 

[kokapetl]

1 hour ago, galaxychaser said:

🤮 obviously they lotioned up on Valentine’s Day 

Human slip n slide. 

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, kokapetl said:

Human slip n slide. 

I should've waited until my lunch fully digested before reading these comments. 🤢🤢🤢

Edited February 20, 2020 by BitterApple

[JustRosie]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I should've waited until my lunch fully digested before reading these comments. 🤢🤢🤢

Yep, I felt sick reading that! 🤮

[zoomama]

i still think its derick who is making the decision to prevent more babies.  if left up to jill, she'd be preggers today.

[JoanArc]

2 minutes ago, zoomama said:

i still think its derick who is making the decision to prevent more babies.  if left up to jill, she'd be preggers today.

 I have a feeling she would want to get pregnant, then get pregnant, and then, on some level hate it.  Marriage and children is just such an ambivalent experience for Jill it must be its own kind of torturous hell. 

[floridamom]

Garlic stuffed olives and chocolate? Not eaten together I hope. Just not a good combination....like most of Jill's cooking.

[Fig Newton]

At the very, very least--------

It would have presented much better if the dates were removed from the WalMart bag and placed in a container of sorts. The olives too could have been put in a bowl (an attractive or colorful bowl would have scored extra slippery points).

And lastly, would it have been difficult to put the cookies on a plate and not in a bag. Maybe, a sweet handwritten note attached?

I guess presentation to them is nothing of importance, but I sure would give a shit about it.

 

[lookeyloo]

2 hours ago, Fig Newton said:

At the very, very least--------

It would have presented much better if the dates were removed from the WalMart bag and placed in a container of sorts. The olives too could have been put in a bowl (an attractive or colorful bowl would have scored extra slippery points).

And lastly, would it have been difficult to put the cookies on a plate and not in a bag. Maybe, a sweet handwritten note attached?

I guess presentation to them is nothing of importance, but I sure would give a shit about it.

 

Maybe cookies for now and the rest for another time?  No fans of them, but I wouldn't put it all out if it wasn't intended to be consumed right then.

[Sew Sumi]

Holy crap! Huge news! Izzy is officially registered for kindergarten at a PUBLIC SCHOOL! 

 

[Oldernowiser]

Well, holy crap. Who would have ever thought Jill would be the breakout Duggar?

 

[Growsonwalls]

I am so so relieved about this. Idk whose decision this was but Jill obviously needed this as much as Izzy. Some people take to homeschooling kids. Some people just don't. I think Jill struggles with so many parts of mothering, that it's great that she at least recognizes that she might not be the best person for the sole source of education of her son.

Izzy looks like a serious, thoughtful child. Bet the teachers will like him.

[Zella]

Well, shit. I'm legitimately impressed? He's going to be going to the Rogers School District, which is considered quite nice. 

I bet her parents are pissed. 

Also, Jessa and Jinger, your thunder about grocery shopping and godly husbands just got stolen. 🤣

Edited February 22, 2020 by Zella

[SoupyShoes]

23 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Holy crap! Huge news! Izzy is officially registered for kindergarten at a PUBLIC SCHOOL! 

 

I have 0% to snark on here (except those damn bibs again... really?). This is a woman becoming self aware enough to realize that things that are different from her upbringing are not evil. I hope she gets involved with a parent group and continues to expand her perspectives even more. Slam dunk, Jill! Well done!

[Zella]

1 minute ago, SoupyShoes said:

I hope she gets involved with a parent group and continues to expand her perspectives even more. Slam dunk, Jill! Well done!

Yeah, one of my first thoughts is maybe Jill can actually meet some moms who aren't just part of her church. 

[awaken]

Whoa!!!  I am genuinely shocked!  Dying to know whose idea this was and how it came about!  Whether it was tough for Jill to take this step, or if she’s fully on board. 

I’m confused though, because supposedly he finished homeschooling kindergarten ages ago?  🤔  

im excited for Israel!  And for the exposure the boys and Jill will get of the world!  Bet she may feel even more at loose ends, as staying home and schooling is all she knows to do as a mom. I hope she takes up other pursuits. 

[JoanArc]

Whoa. This is the best thing to happen to Jill in her entire life. Not snarking. It'll open up the world for Israel and the rest of his family. I think Jill will learn A LOT. Good for them.

Edited February 22, 2020 by JoanArc

[Panopticon]

40 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Well, holy crap. Who would have ever thought Jill would be the breakout Duggar?

 

It’s the Hannah Gosselin Law of Reality TV Kids. The one who was the explicit, uncontested favorite of the parent who sold his/her children’s childhoods to TLC will be the one to rebel. 

Suck it, Jim Bob. Your chief snitch is all grown up and doing something that must scare the shit out of her so her own child won’t have the limitations you forced on her. 

[fonfereksglen]

2 minutes ago, Panopticon said:

It’s the Hannah Gosselin Law of Reality TV Kids. The one who was the explicit, uncontested favorite of the parent who sold his/her children’s childhoods to TLC will be the one to rebel. 

Suck it, Jim Bob. Your chief snitch is all grown up and doing something that must scare the shit out of her so her own child won’t have the limitations you forced on her. 

Brilliant analogy!

[Steff]

My soft spot for Jill just got a little bigger.  This must scare the shit out of her, but she's going for it.  This is the biggest breakout moment yet IMO.  Pants & a nose ring don't hold a candle to putting her kid in a real school.  She will be the mom who cries the hardest on that first day of school, but it will be for so many more reasons than the typical emotional mess mom.  I never thought that I would feel "proud" of a reality tv person, much less a Duggar, but hell, I'm so proud of her for doing this.  Looks like they were first in line on the first day of registration.  She didn't drag her feet or procrastinate at all.  Way too go Jilly! 

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Holy crap! Huge news! Izzy is officially registered for kindergarten at a PUBLIC SCHOOL! 

 

I just saw this on the other site!  Good for them.  

8 minutes ago, Steff said:

My soft spot for Jill just got a little bigger.  This must scare the shit out of her, but she's going for it.  This is the biggest breakout moment yet IMO.  Pants & a nose ring don't hold a candle to putting her kid in a real school.  She will be the mom who cries the hardest on that first day of school, but it will be for so many more reasons than the typical emotional mess mom.  I never thought that I would feel "proud" of a reality tv person, much less a Duggar, but hell, I'm so proud of her for doing this.  Looks like they were first in line on the first day of registration.  She didn't drag her feet or procrastinate at all.  Way too go Jilly! 

AND a haircut!  

[lilwhitelion]

I'll very willingly overlook the repeated 'Are you excited??' questions because you get the sense that they all are genuinely excited for this step.

I'm so happy for Israel.  And I love the outfit he was wearing.

[Zella]

Just now, lilwhitelion said:

I'll very willingly overlook the repeated 'Are you excited??' questions because you get the sense that they all are genuinely excited for this step.

I also was willing to overlook the "Yay!"

[Temperance]

Good for them. Although it's just kindergarten and I guess I don't see the big deal. I haven't really worried about these kids except for the dangerous balancing stunts. I hope this goes well and doesn't scare them out of taking the kids out of school. I think Jill could handle Kindergarten and the next few years afterwards. It's those later grades with all those advanced subjects that get harder and harder for homeschooling parents to handle. I know a woman who used to teach advanced math who teaches homeschooled kids. 

I always had more confidence in Jill and Derick to educate their kids than most of the other Duggars (except JinJer). Jill was one of the brightest Duggars who has her GED and Derick has a real education. It seems like people particularly wanted Israel and Samuel to go to school and seem less concerned about the other Duggar grands. The M-kids, Garrett, Gideon, Spurgeon, Henry, etc. all seem to be growing up homeschooled or will be. 

Since Jill and Derick have been going to a mainstream Baptist church for a long time, it seems very likely that they know other parents who send their kid to public schools. 

[Steff]

We're gonna get 1st day of school pictures, videos of them waiting for the bus to drop him off or videos of her & Sam waiting in the carpool line.  Bad brown bag lunches to snark on.  Every teenager's nightmare, bad elementary school picture day pics framed on the wall.  Back to school shopping! (always the 1 thing I hated doing the most) Book fairs! 

So many typical, every day mom with a kid in school moments & pictures.  Again, so damn proud of little Jilly! I'm willing to give her the whole first year of "yay!" and "did you have fun today?" moments because it's just so damn amazing that she did this. 

 

Edited February 22, 2020 by Steff

[Zella]

11 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Good for them. Although it's just kindergarten and I guess I don't see the big deal. I haven't really worried about these kids except for the dangerous balancing stunts. I hope this goes well and doesn't scare them out of taking the kids out of school. I think Jill could handle Kindergarten and the next few years afterwards. It's those later grades with all those advanced subjects that get harder and harder for homeschooling parents to handle. I know a woman who used to teach advanced math who teaches homeschooled kids. 

I always had more confidence in Jill and Derick to educate their kids than most of the other Duggars (except JinJer). Jill was one of the brightest Duggars who has her GED and Derick has a real education. It seems like people particularly wanted Israel and Samuel to go to school and seem less concerned about the other Duggar grands. The M-kids, Garrett, Gideon, Spurgeon, Henry, etc. all seem to be growing up homeschooled or will be. 

Since Jill and Derick have been going to a mainstream Baptist church for a long time, it seems very likely that they know other parents who send their kid to public schools. 

I think it's more significant as a statement on how much she is breaking away from her parents' beliefs and the way she was raised than anything because what she is doing is normal to most people, but she was basically raised to think of public schools as evil. 

I also don't think Jill is emotionally capable of effectively homeschooling her children, regardless of the grade level, and the fact she may have had the ability to recognize this in herself surprises me (in a good way). Even if Jill could handle the academic demands of teaching a kindergartner, I don't think she has the patience to do a good job of it, and she and Derick do seem to have some weird resentment toward Izzy at times. Homeschooling at any age can be incredibly frustrating, and I think there was legitimate concern that would not be handled well since she already seems so overwhelmed. 

As for the other grandkids, I don't know that their parents have manifested some of the same disturbing tendencies that Jill has of seeming to resent her children at times. I really don't have a problem with people homeschooling their kids if they know what they are doing (I was homeschooled myself from 5th grade up), but I have seen it done very badly, and I really think that the issues she has with her children would dramatically increase if she was homeschooling them. So, to me, this was a very wise move. 

Edited February 22, 2020 by Zella

[asuwur]

Whoohoo. Jill gets a lot of flack even though every parent here has done a dozen things other parents (to include people here) would shame them on (but those weird bibs? Woof!) 

I think that the further JB and Mullet pushes them away, they just more and more adopt a "fuck it, let's be normal and do normal things!" . I still maintain that part of Ds issue with JB  is Joshgate and i suspect Jill is still traumatized. And while he says a lot of stupid things, I have no doubt he loves his JillyMuffin and isn't pleased that she suffered so much in the interest of protecting Gathsrdism.

Edited February 22, 2020 by asuwur

[fonfereksglen]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Holy crap! Huge news! Izzy is officially registered for kindergarten at a PUBLIC SCHOOL! 

 

First video I have ever watched.  Yah.  So normal.  Almost tear jerking in the Duggar context.  The best part was the little guy who sucked in every moment so he will roll his eyes when his turn comes.  Hopefully, he goes to 3K or 4K.  

[galaxychaser]

Izzy is the star of counting on! I can’t believe he is going to go to a real school!

[fonfereksglen]

7 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Izzy is the star of counting on! I can’t believe he is going to go to a real school!

Break out star!  😀

[mynextmistake]

Wow, this is amazing. Kudos to Jill and Derick for making the best decision for their child.

[kokapetl]

Yaay for Israel. I hope it leads on to further non homeschooling. 

Hey, Jessa, if you wanna keep up in this parenting arms race, you’re gonna have to put Spurgeon in Kindergarten!
 

[Gweilo]

Jessa's going to have to go a step further and enrol her children in Montessori!

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, Gweilo said:

Jessa's going to have to go a step further and enrol her children in Montessori!

There is a Montessori elementary school in Fayetteville about 5 minutes from Blessa's house. They could pick Spurgeon up in between dates, I mean, outings to Whole Foods. 😉 

[Growsonwalls]

I was getting all the feels for how excited Derick seemed in the video. He looked relieved, to be honest. I think having a wife that dependent on him for life chores was weighing him down, and the #besthubbyever decided that this was the best decision for his family. Which is totally okay. For once, I'm all for Jilly following her headship if her headship found a nice normal school for Izzy.

[MichaelaRae]

Wow. I did NOT see that coming even if I was hoping for it. That's terrific!!

[GeeGolly]

Wow. Yay. So happy for Izzy. Not only will he get a solid education, but by age 5 1/2 he will be without a Duggar present on a daily basis, something Jill didn't do until she was married.

By January of next year Izzy will be more mature than Mackynzie, the rest of his cousins, Jill, and all of his aunts and uncles.

Edited February 22, 2020 by GeeGolly

[FizzyPuff]

Wow I’m so proud of Jill! Good for her! I hope JB and M are pissed. 

[lookeyloo]

I hope they don’t change their minds by the start of school. JB has a lot of time to pressure them. But if it happens great news!!

[JustRosie]

9 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Holy crap! Huge news! Izzy is officially registered for kindergarten at a PUBLIC SCHOOL! 

 

Perfect!  Not only will this be good for Israel, it will open up an entirely new social circle for Jill.   She will also have the opportunity to get involved in PTA, classroom volunteers etc. This will likely make home life different for all four of them. This will be good for the entire family. 👍 

[floridamom]

Wow, this IS good news! I wonder who convinced Jill that she is not capable of properly educating her children? Whoever it was, congrats to them. Yes, I agree that Israel will do wonderfully and benefit a great deal from this. I noticed how is was anxious to enter the school. Great all the way around.

[libgirl2]

I am thrilled with this news! I think it will be great for Izzy and for the whole family.

1 minute ago, floridamom said:

Wow, this IS good news! I wonder who convinced Jill that she is not capable of properly educating her children? Whoever it was, congrats to them. Yes, I agree that Israel will do wonderfully and benefit a great deal from this. I noticed how is was anxious to enter the school. Great all the way around.

Probably Derick. If Izzy can have a public school education, he will benefit greatly from it. Not saying good homeschooling is bad, but Duggar homeschooling is not great.

[floridamom]

I can't wait for Sam to go to PreK...it would be more convenient for Jill if they were both in the same school. Think of all the cleaning, laundry, errands and great meals she can prepare while they are in school!  We all can hope. Jill also can volunteer to be a class mother. I did it when my older one was in 2nd grade. It was great while I did it. I was younger too and had more energy! Great news....now for Sam.

Oh, I forgot the most important thing....Jill had better not send Israel to kindergarten with that stupid plastic bib!

[SMama]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

I hope they don’t change their minds by the start of school. JB has a lot of time to pressure them. But if it happens great news!!

JB’s pressure is based on his children’s financial dependence on him. The years of conditioning help as well. Derick does not depend on JB for his livelihood, and JB probably has hurt Jill to her core by denying her complete access to the TTH and her siblings. Derick is out of fucks to give and is very upset at JB. Add the headship is always right thing and I like Izzy’s odds to attend heathen public school.  

[JustRosie]

Beat that JinJer! 😂 

[crazy8s]

Izzy and Sam are well on their way to becoming the "cousin Amys" of the younger duggar cousins. knowing things outside the cult.

YAY! for them

I hope Izzy joins scouts next year too.

 

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, Namaste said:

Beat that JinJer! 😂 

Felicity will be enrolled in a private Christian school.

[JustRosie]

Just now, libgirl2 said:

Felicity will be enrolled in a private Christian school.

Probably!  

[SMama]

1 minute ago, crazy8s said:

 

I hope Izzy joins scouts next year too.

 

I think Derick went all angry white male on Boy Scouts allowing girls to join. 

[crazy8s]

1 minute ago, SMama said:

I think Derick went all angry white male on Boy Scouts allowing girls to join. 

yes, he did.

but if the school has a small pack and no girls maybe, just maybe it would be allowable