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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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5 minutes ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

Izzy is going to  school  in the same district that Derick went to.  I wonder if Jill realized that she's not educated enough to teach her kids. Doubt it. I'm so glad that Izzy will have a normal upbringing in school. At least to start off. 

I thought Ben, Anna, and Michelle were the "family" teachers... over at the big house... I am awaiting for the day for Spurgeon to join the class - isn't he close to 4 ?

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1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

agree - there will be no heart to heart on Counting On with Jill and MOTY where JIll is all teary about Jesus telling her it was ok to send Izzy to school.

so nope they won't care a bit

Perhaps I need to be committed for what I am about to say but I would totally watch the Dillards navigate life outside the JBoob umbrella.  A fundy version of Escaping Polygamy yet not AS creepy.  Trying to bring other fam into the fold.  I just don't want it shown in UP.  I don't get that channel.  TLC, do your thang!

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8 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I watch entirely too much bad tv so of course my mind went to the CA visit by Meechelle and JBoob.  Wonder if this was a shape up or ship out 'visit'.  As in you are not being properly fundy and have the gall to think on your own, git yer butt back to Arkansas under my rule before you go full heathen.

For Jeremy and Jinger? I really don't think they're outside the pale as much as people like to think they are. I mean, Jeremy has an LLC registered to Jim Bob's address. I don't think he's exactly casting off the shackles. 

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Just now, Zella said:

For Jeremy and Jinger? I really don't think they're outside the pale as much as people like to think they are. I mean, Jeremy has an LLC registered to Jim Bob's address. I don't think he's exactly casting off the shackles. 

Nope.  I meant the Dillards.  By CA I meant Central American.  But I should have typed that out since the others are in California.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Natalie68 said:

Nope.  I meant the Dillards.  By CA I meant Central American.  But I should have typed that out since the others are in California.

 

 

Ah okay! Sorry! I wondered but then I was like, nah, that's not Danger America! Lolol in the immortal words of Gilda Radner, Nevermind! 😉

I'm not really clear on the timeline of the falling out. It's clearly been brewing awhile. 

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

So he's planning eight more kids? Maybe he meant first days? If the school has grades above kindergarten you only need to register a kid once and they just move up to the next grade each year. What grade does that school go up to? It looked fairly big.

I think he meant that Izzy would be going there through sixth grade and then be followed by Sam so that -- all together -- he would be visiting that school for the next ten years.

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15 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I think he meant that Izzy would be going there through sixth grade and then be followed by Sam so that -- all together -- he would be visiting that school for the next ten years.

well ...looking that the other side of the coin... is Derrick trying not to  announce that there will be no more little Dillards to fill up the school/every grade? 

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I don't think Jilly is cut out for homeschooling, and Derick knows it. He's in law school -- he must interact almost every day with women who are intelligent and outspoken. He must realize that he has a wife who can form only the most basic sentences. I think in two years Sam will be enrolled in school too. 

I also hate to say this but I thank God that Jilly had sons. I think if they had daughters they might not be as proactive about their daughter's education.

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2 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

It wouldn’t surprise me to learn this has been in the works for a while, and that’s why they chose to purchase a home in this area. I remember right after they bought their home some people were commenting that it was in kind of a weird location for them to pick. If they’d already decided on public school, they probably looked at school quality when choosing a community to move into.

Well, he’s going to try. Those jobs aren’t as easy to get as people like Derick think. 

He already has started to make connections, working at the Clinton Foundation last summer. I imagine he'll return there this coming summer.

4 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

It wouldn’t surprise me to learn this has been in the works for a while, and that’s why they chose to purchase a home in this area. I remember right after they bought their home some people were commenting that it was in kind of a weird location for them to pick. If they’d already decided on public school, they probably looked at school quality when choosing a community to move into.

Well, he’s going to try. Those jobs aren’t as easy to get as people like Derick think. 

I find it strange that he already thinks/knows he will be in the same house and school district for the next decade.  

His internship this summer might explain why?  Or maybe not.  But this upcoming summer internship is usually with a firm that wants to hire you!

13 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

I find it strange that he already thinks/knows he will be in the same house and school district for the next decade.  

His internship this summer might explain why?  Or maybe not.  But this upcoming summer internship is usually with a firm that wants to hire you!

Between all the companies headquartered there, it wouldn't surprise me if he is fairly certain he'll be staying in the NWA area, and a lot of folks commute between the different towns. Even if he is banking on a local political job that involves some time in Little Rock, a property investment there isn't a bad idea with the real estate market booming. 

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9 hours ago, Barb23 said:

It’s extra special because it’s the same school district Derick enrolled in over 25 years ago. 

School district not school.  There are multiple schools within that district.  I'm so thrilled that Israel will get to be with his peers and not just his cousins, that he can get a full education and not just what Jill covers with workbooks, and he can play and be independent of his parent for several hours a week.  

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This is so depressing. Not a single Duggar has "liked" Jill's post about Izzy going to Kindergarten. Not one. Only Derick's family posted something nice. That's kind of shitty. Even if you don't agree with homeschooling can't the Duggars muster enough people skills to hit "like" on what is a big deal to Jill?

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2 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

This is so depressing. Not a single Duggar has "liked" Jill's post about Izzy going to Kindergarten. Not one. Only Derick's family posted something nice. That's kind of shitty. Even if you don't agree with homeschooling can't the Duggars muster enough people skills to hit "like" on what is a big deal to Jill?

Not true. Both Jana and Jinger have liked it, as well as Alyssa Bates Webster. Saw a screenshot on FJ.

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6 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Also curious if the boys got vaccinated or not. I’m sure that school system will allow religious waiver.

As my daughter pointed out, due to Cathy's cancer issues, they probably did vaccinate the kids since they would be around her so much.  Derick would probably listen to that kind of reasoning if Cathy brought it up.

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29 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:
25 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Oops my bad. I was looking and saw that "duggarfam," Jessa, Joy, and Anna did not like it.

 

No surprises there other than Joy. The 'rents are at a couples retreat, so maybe they haven't heard yet.

24 minutes ago, Absolom said:

As my daughter pointed out, due to Cathy's cancer issues, they probably did vaccinate the kids since they would be around her so much.  Derick would probably listen to that kind of reasoning if Cathy brought it up.

I also think Izzy was vaccinated as an infant in Danger America. Derelict has said that he isn't anti-vax.

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Alyssa has said recently on a YT video that she plans to homeschool. Logic was no one knows your kid like you do. 

It just occurred to me that it's been said that Joy is the most conservative of the older girls. I think she and Jill have been growing apart for some time now.

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29 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Alyssa has said recently on a YT video that she plans to homeschool. Logic was no one knows your kid like you do. 

It just occurred to me that it's been said that Joy is the most conservative of the older girls. I think she and Jill have been growing apart for some time now.

Let's hope Alyssa changes her mind as her kids get older. She is not the brightest person. I also wonder if she'll want a real education for her husband's heir once junior arrives.

Joy's husband comes from the most conservative background and the only one who is IBLP. Ben's parents were fundie, but seem to have some common sense. Derick and Jeremy come from more mainstream backgrounds.  Joy and Austin seem really good together, but both of them keep the other one bound to fundamentalism. 

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4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

One of Jazz's brothers is going to law school in the fall. I'd take him over lazy ass Jazz any day. And his politics are correct, so he'd cancel out Counselor Dullard. 

RE: the subject of accredited education - eps. graduate school..

Gosh - what a news update date  🍿...will peek over on that thread, as I would love to know what the older sister is doing with her life.

Good for the reality stars offspring... Kinda hope Jermey/Jinger will bust out with a news story - that goes against the grain, other than pants, hair color and moving to California. I had hopes for Ben to continue his education, but I guess his 2 yr degree is making him happy..

Still waiting for the Bates to get more of a clue..

Back to Derrick, attorney-at-law-to-be...I kinda hoped he would eat a little humble pie and go back to walmart cop...I'm sure they could use legal counsel on their staff.

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9 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

I really have to wonder if Ma and Pa even give a rusty double damn anymore. The kids have fulfilled their purpose, which was to make them wealthy and fawned upon, and now that they’re out of the house? Who cares?

Other than the occasional photo op, I don’t think most of their kids even cross their shallow little minds on a daily basis.

I don't think they care about the grandkids going to public school, exactly. If they weren't in the public eye, it'd probably be the kind of thing they don't really agree with but don't feel strongly enough about to say anything. What Jim Bob and Michelle and Jessa* care about is the type of public questions and comments the public makes when one of the clan veer from the script JB/TLC wrote all those years ago. 

*I include Jessa here, because I've always felt that if it weren't for her thin skin over public comments about her family and her beliefs, Jessa would have long ago been wearing pants and whatever other meaningless thing that the public perceives as rebellious. I think the chances are high that she's not much of a believer but she's comfortable where she's it so she's fine going through the motions. 

 

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13 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I actually don't think Jill is a bad mom..she reminds me of a lot of twenty something moms with trips to the library,  being a stroller mom, being overwhelmed,  etc.

I think she got a crash course look at reality that the picture she was given of motherhood by her mom isn't what she expected..so she's floundered.  She always was the shy Duggar daughter..believing in all that she was taught and always feeling anxious about pleasing others.  Plus, her two boys seem happy...imho.  I bet once he's in kindergarten, we will get an announcement of baby #3.  A friend of mine lamented about her child starting kindergarten,  than bam..she got pregnant

I was wondering if this is the real reason for Israel going to kindergarten, if he enjoys it, then Sam will go and boom, Jill is expecting. 

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It's interesting how we all see the girls a little differently regarding their beliefs. I see them all now realizing the hair/clothing type rules are Michelle's and Gothard's. Jinger knows it and changed, even if it meant hurting her parents feelings. Jessa will be in skirts with long hair until the show is cancelled and Jill is now blindly following a new set of rules. And Joy is following the same rules because of Austin.

As far as their Christian beliefs, I see Jinger believing with some depth and Jessa as someone who believes deeply enough to fear repercussions if she doesn't. I see Jill as someone who thinks she believes deeply but actually is a shallow believer following a script of reading the Bible and going to church and thinks that makes her a good Christian. I see Joy similar to Jill, however I don't think religion takes up a lot of headspace, she just lives life day to day and on Sundays, goes to church.

I think the girls, JB & M think Jill is the deepest believer, then Jessa, Jinger and Joy.

It's harder to peg Jana because there isn't a before and after living at home to compare, but I see her as a believer who struggles (in a healthy way, to me) here and there to make sense of it all.

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4 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

Hmmm, It makes me wonder how many "fans" will be filling their PO Box with school supplies.  

Probably several, and she doesn’t have to buy school supplies with the money I send her, but I am going to request that she spends it entirely on Israel.  She can get him clothes, shoes, a lunchbox, pay for school lunches, or whatever, as long as it benefits Israel.  I’ll do the same for Sam when he starts Kindergarten.

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21 hours ago, Namaste said:

Yeah, that made me worry too. Sounds like they might be just test driving public school without full commitment to leaving Izzy there for K-12. Hopefully, they stick with it. 

Hopefully Izzy will like kindergarten, make new friends & learn a ton of things. Hopefully because of this  (especially what he has learned) J & D will have him continue on in public school.

I'm glad they have him starting school now rather than in let's say 3rd grade.  I'm sure he would have a lot of catching up to do both in knowledge & social skills. 

 

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1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Another alternative...donate to this charity In Israel’s honor...

https://www.kinf.org/

This is just me, but they have enough money to buy a house, put Derrick through law school, and own two vehicles. Plenty of parents do better by their kids with lots less.

Getting donated money for educating their children...not so much.

I'm lost... they set up a GoFundMe for Izzy to go to public K4 ?

I'm not saying public schools are not free as there are things parents have to pay for ... but what's going to happen when the little darlings are in HS and the $$ really flies out of one's wallet/purse ?

RE: setting up a fund for school supplies - many of the stores - walmart & target  are the leaders - have school supplies packs/bags that one can purchase, so the parent can pick them up.

One clicks on the school & grade, and if the teacher/administration has filled out the info, all the purchaser has to do is click & pay. Just another version of buying online (ie a gift registry) and pick up at the store. 

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9 minutes ago, sATL said:

I'm lost... they set up a GoFundMe for Izzy to go to public K4 ?

Not that I know of. Several weeks ago Jill or Derick posted on IG, that they'd obtained a post office box, and included the address. In case people want to mail them things. Jill recently posted about some of the "happy mail" (I think that was her term) they enjoy receiving at the PO Box.

I think a couple of people have posted here about sending Jill money to that PO Box as a positive/encouraging response to enrolling Izzy in kindergarten. 

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3 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

Not that I know of. Several weeks ago Jill or Derick posted on IG, that they'd obtained a post office box, and included the address. In case people want to mail them things. Jill recently posted about some of the "happy mail" (I think that was her term) they enjoy receiving at the PO Box.

I think a couple of people have posted here about sending Jill money to that PO Box as a positive/encouraging response to enrolling Izzy in kindergarten. 

hmmmm... how about a direct deposit to a 529 plan ?

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37 minutes ago, sATL said:

RE: setting up a fund for school supplies - many of the stores - walmart & target  are the leaders - have school supplies packs/bags that one can purchase, so the parent can pick them up.

One clicks on the school & grade, and if the teacher/administration has filled out the info, all the purchaser has to do is click & pay. Just another version of buying online (ie a gift registry) and pick up at the store. 

Our school offers a box you can order with all the supplies in it, cheaper and we don't have to worry about any of it. 

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