Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[GeeGolly]

I think its safe to assume the Duggar19 are educated to at least a six grade level. I'm going to guess, with the exception of Joy, the Duggar sisters can at least provide an adequate K - 5 education for their kids. The problem is, is the Duggar sisters don't know what an adequate education is, never mind an excellent one. Add to that their religious beliefs and laziness, it all seems to be a recipe for a disastrous education. 

Maybe the kids are in public school, but I know my FB feed has been filled with school pictures, discussions of Spirit Week, invites to plays and concerts and the upcoming week off from school. It seems odd that Jill has mentioned none of these things.

[AstridM]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think its safe to assume the Duggar19 are educated to at least a six grade level. I'm going to guess, with the exception of Joy, the Duggar sisters can at least provide an adequate K - 5 education for their kids. The problem is, is the Duggar sisters don't know what an adequate education is, never mind an excellent one. Add to that their religious beliefs and laziness, it all seems to be a recipe for a disastrous education. 

Maybe the kids are in public school, but I know my FB feed has been filled with school pictures, discussions of Spirit Week, invites to plays and concerts and the upcoming week off from school. It seems odd that Jill has mentioned none of these things.

With the exception of Joy and Jinger. 

[GeeGolly]

5 minutes ago, AstridM said:

With the exception of Joy and Jinger. 

I think Jinger is on par with Jill and Jessa intelligence wise. She's also been exposed to far more of the real world then any of her siblings so, IMO, would likely recognize how poor their education was. I'm not sure Jill and Jessa will ever know their education sucked. Joy on the other hand, may just give up teaching her kids and send them to school.

[Salacious Kitty]

Really quickly, the final "after" of Jill's makeover.

[Notabug]

23 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I went to Catholic school (I am Catholic) for grades K-8. When it came time for HS, I chose public. I would say there are always really super smart kids no matter the school or type of education as school is what you make it.

My Catholic school class was pretty small so there wasn't the variety of courses one would get in a bigger school, especially a bigger HS. It was surprising to see some of the courses where things I had already been doing for the last 2-3 years. Coming out of Catholic 8th grade, I felt the majority of my class had a leg up on the average public school student. I certainly could spell better than most of my friends. 

My heart breaks for some of these kids that are getting barely an education in the name of religion. We had religion class every day. My teachers were mainly nuns but they were well educated. I never felt that I received a poor education. They wanted us to be smart, they wanted us to be excellent. These fundies just seem to want the basics and that just barely. 

I went to Catholic schools through 9th grade and had a similar experience.  We didn't have as many course options as the public schools, but we were TAUGHT.  There was discipline and an emphasis on working hard and mastering the material.  When I transferred to public schools, I was a math and science geek, so most of my classmates were similarly motivated to achieve.  However, in required courses like American History and electives, I was shocked to see people sleeping through class, socializing, or otherwise not paying attention.  That kinda stuff would not fly in the Catholic schools I had attended to that point.

There was indeed an emphasis on reading and writing and arithmetic in the Catholic schools and everyone was expected to learn the basics well and use them in the real world, no matter what else we did.

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 think its safe to assume the Duggar19 are educated to at least a six grade level. I'm going to guess, with the exception of Joy, the Duggar sisters can at least provide an adequate K - 5 education for their kids. The problem is, is the Duggar sisters don't know what an adequate education is, never mind an excellent one. 

That's the problem, IMO.   Just because the Duggars might've had an adequate education up until 6th grade doesn't mean they are capable of providing that to their kids.  They've never been in a real classroom with a real, trained teacher and a real, engaged, class of students.  They think doing workbooks and quoting the Bible is an adequate education.  It isn't.

I've been educated through grad school and I'm not even sure I would be capable of teaching kids through high school.  At least, not to the level they should be taught and certainly not with the skills of a true professional educator.

Edited December 14, 2022 by Notabug

[GeeGolly]

22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Really quickly, the final "after" of Jill's makeover.

I don't understand this. Did she go back and get it styled? Here she is leaving with her coffee. And where is her nose ring and she has make-up on. The more I look at it the more I think above picture looks like one of those hair cut apps.

Edited December 14, 2022 by GeeGolly

[Absolom]

The styled photo doesn't look exactly like Jill either.  

[oliviabenson]

I think Jill used filters/photoshop 

50 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Really quickly, the final "after" of Jill's makeover.

[Trillium]

1 minute ago, oliviabenson said:

I think Jill used filters/photoshop 

The picture was originally posted by the stylist, who 100% used a filter, Jill just reposted it. 
 

As for the dramatic style difference…the stylist probably has ring light and fluffed everything right before taking it. Jill’s hair seems like mine, it loses it shape the second I step out of the salon. I don’t know how many times it looks great when I leave and in the 15 minutes it takes me to get home it’s totally flat and stringy. 😐

[Notabug]

3 minutes ago, Trillium said:

The picture was originally posted by the stylist, who 100% used a filter, Jill just reposted it. 
 

As for the dramatic style difference…the stylist probably has ring light and fluffed everything right before taking it. Jill’s hair seems like mine, it loses it shape the second I step out of the salon. I don’t know how many times it looks great when I leave and in the 15 minutes it takes me to get home it’s totally flat and stringy. 😐

All I know is I think she would look better with less blond and less length.

[libgirl2]

31 minutes ago, Notabug said:

All I know is I think she would look better with less blond and less length.

She can stay with blond, though I like darker hair on her, but yes, she needs to cut some length. 

[Salacious Kitty]

She also posted the pic as a regular IG post and clarified that her hair wasn't pink. It's just a reflection of lights at the salon. 

[mom2two]

If jill just had the baby with her (no sign of the other kids in the car), then someone either had to be watching them, or perhaps they really are in some type of school situation.

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, mom2two said:

If jill just had the baby with her (no sign of the other kids in the car), then someone either had to be watching them, or perhaps they really are in some type of school situation.

I figured she left them with Cathy, or it was the weekend and Derick was home. 

[SnapHappy]

Isn't she supposed to be shilling headwraps?? 

That amount of filtering is almost painful.  

Edited December 14, 2022 by SnapHappy

[floridamom]

Jill's hair will never look like that at home. That amount of hair is impossible to wash, dry and style every morning and actually have a life. She has a husband and 3 kids to see to and a house to clean, meals to cook, laundry to wash. I'd like to see her photo from today.

[GeeGolly]

Talk about false advertising, the stylist is full of shit. The second pic is how Jill looked when she was done. Jill conveniently removed the second pic from her IG.

[lascuba]

38 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Talk about false advertising, the stylist is full of shit. The second pic is how Jill looked when she was done. Jill conveniently removed the second pic from her IG.

Yeah, I saw the top picture first and my immediate thought was that if the stylist photoshopped her face that much, it's unlikely that that is what her hair actually looks like.

[Absolom]

No way Jill has that much hair.

[leighdear]

Good for Jill, getting such a practical and individual look......

https://www.instagram.com/michellegamboahair/

Her same look from last year is 10 rows down. 

Edited December 15, 2022 by leighdear

[awaken]

Even her eyebrows are a different shape in the photoshopped image. 

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, awaken said:

Even her eyebrows are a different shape in the photoshopped image. 

And the wrinkles around her jaw line.

[Snow Fairy]

I actually think she looks better in her picture. I just hate those filters where everyone looks almost the same

[SunnyBeBe]

I really like Jill’s hair…whichever one is accurate…lol.  I guess I’m biased.  I love blonde.  

[dariafan]

At least she’s making something with some seasoning????

[Dimi1]

On 12/13/2022 at 1:28 PM, MaryAnneSpier said:

I want to jump in a bit to respond to previous posts criticizing Christian schools. Yes, some of them are an absolute joke, but my personal experience was positive.

From pre school through 4th grade, I attended a Christian school and then transferred to a small-town public school. I was at least one, if not two, years ahead academically in the public school. The book we used at the public school for Reading was literally the exact same one I used the year before at the Christian school. Yes, the Christian school had Bible class twice a week and chapel once a week, but the teachers found ways to incorporate Christian ideals, scripture verses, stories, etc into other lessons. I am glad that I did move into a public school when I did; even at 10 I had some culture shock and I can't imagine what it would have been if I'd been solely Christian school educated al lthe way until HS graduation. 

That said, if Jill is indeed homeschooling the boys instead of going to school, I worry about the amount and quality of education they're actually getting. Jill is a product of SOTDRT "education" so I don't see her offspring benefitting at all from her instruction.

I had one kid in Christian school..one in public...the one in public - just focusing on academics...was at least 2-3 years behind...kid had to have lots of remedial classes her first year and a half of college...my son went to an all catholic boys school...he got out and went on to college on a full scholarship...so there is a difference...and my daughters public school was a good school that offered a baccalaureate program...so supposedly no slouch in the academic dept...it really depends on the school and on the kid and the homelife....an interesting read on homeschooling - the colfax family in Canada...they did "unschooling"...very very interesting...my daughter sends our 2 grands to a private Christian school that follows that unschooling formula...and if I do say so myself...my 2 grands are brilliant!!

[GeeGolly]

Does anyone know what the packages(?) on the counter are?

[crazy8s]

Laughing at her posting the backs of all the boys, while a giant picture with their faces clearly shown is on the wall in the background. 😂

[Snow Fairy]

They posted a new video about finding out Fenna's breed. And Jill to me looks very happy and relaxed

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, Snow Fairy said:

They posted a new video about finding out Fenna's breed. And Jill to me looks very happy and relaxed

I watched it and you are right. Jill does seem happy and relaxed. I'm so glad that they love their dog, who is very bouncy and full of energy. That's not always the norm with these families that we discuss on here!

[Lady Whistleup]

Fenna might be a mix of GSD and Dobie, but she's 100% cute. 

I'm also glad Jill is doing genetic tests with Fenna if only because it introduces concepts like DNA and inheritance to the kids. I have a friend who used to teach at a Christian school and says DNA was not allowed to be mentioned in the curriculum.

[auntieminem]

Cute video, I am glad they love Fenna. That was a fun and educational for the boys.  In the comments on IG someone commented about about having a miscarriage very recently and asking for help on how to deal with the loss. Though it was odd she commented on the post about Fenna.  Jill did respond and after the brief "christian type response" she said the following which is encouraging.

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I hope you are able to connect with a licensed therapist to help you walk through this very traumatic time.

 

[kaleidoscope]

Is there a link to the video?

 

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, kaleidoscope said:

Is there a link to the video?

 

 

[kaleidoscope]

Thank you!

[ginger90]

[SunnyBeBe]

Their dog resembles my friend’s dog that is a Carolina Dog.  That’s what they are officially called.  
 

https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/carolina-dog/

[Zella]

I thought Fenna was a Malinois.

[Jynnan tonnix]

24 minutes ago, Zella said:

I thought Fenna was a Malinois.

Aren't Malinois and other Belgian shepherds pretty closely related to German shepherds?

[sagittarius sue]

2 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Aren't Malinois and other Belgian shepherds pretty closely related to German shepherds?

Yes, many police K9 are now Malinois rather an G. Shepherd because of how the breeding standard has changed for shepherds.  Shepherds used to have a straight line from head to hindquarters.  Now they have a slumping hindquarter which had led to great controversy and reports of disability as the dogs get older.

[Salacious Kitty]

I'm not a fan of the GSD's sloped backline. 

[Lady Whistleup]

Fenna looks like the countless "shepherd mixes" that are in many animal shelters. They're brown, around 60 pounds, with big funny ears.

[sagittarius sue]

3 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Fenna looks like the countless "shepherd mixes" that are in many animal shelters. They're brown, around 60 pounds, with big funny ears.

I love her one floppy ear!

[Zella]

6 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Aren't Malinois and other Belgian shepherds pretty closely related to German shepherds?

I'm sure they are. I was just surprised that it wouldn't show up as its own thing since it's been its own breed for a while. But I also tend to find DNA results for humans' ancestry/ethnicity pretty illogical too. 

Edited January 1, 2023 by Zella

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Zella said:

I'm sure they are. I was just surprised that it wouldn't show up as its own thing since it's been its own breed for a while. But I also tend to find DNA results for humans' ancestry/ethnicity pretty illogical too. 

My DNA came back 100% accurate based on the information I had from my birth mother. I did it to see if what I'd been told was wrong. 

[Zella]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

My DNA came back 100% accurate based on the information I had from my birth mother. I did it to see if what I'd been told was wrong. 

My biggest problem is that a lot of how they want to break down backgrounds is just not how history works. When you say someone's ancestry is Scottish, what does that mean? They could be Celtic, Norman, Viking, etc. So, what exactly is popping up as Scottish? Can you be Scottish and not ping as Scottish because you're not fitting their narrow definition? Would that pop up as French and/or Scandinavian for Norman and Viking--and if not, why not? Nobody has ever explained that to me adequately, and between that and privacy concerns, it's a big soapbox topic for me. 

Edited January 1, 2023 by Zella

[GeeGolly]

Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

[Lady Whistleup]

42 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Does Fenna live in the garage? She looked super excited to be let in the house. Every dog I've ever owned saunters into the house like its their kingdom. Plus, I never saw a water bowl anywhere, although maybe she's a toilet (ew) drinker.

I'm not sure I'd traumatize my dog to do DNA. Whether she's "crazy" or not.

She is one pretty dog. 🐕

I don't know how it is in the new house, but in the old house it seems as if Fenna's crate was in the garage but she wandered in and out of the house during the daytime.

Fenna seems well fed and well cared for. She's a cutie pie.

[ginger90]

@GeeGolly the answer to your box question from a while ago. Blurry, it’s from a video.

[GeeGolly]

Damn, this is one place I would come close to selling my soul. I would love to try all these different meal subscriptions out, even in the name of shilling. I'm so tired of the, what's for dinner, game. I would just like about 6 months of a break, lol.

So yup, I'm jealous of Jill. In this moment anyway.