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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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WhineandCheez

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Attention mini golf patrons: calm down and get a grip. Josh has zero known history of abducting children and having his way with them behind the mini windmill. You were as safe as if he wasn't there.

Mini Golf Moms running away from Josh with the children, screaming, toward the protective cover of the bathroom, but Lo!, a trans-gendered man identifying as a women is in there!  So run screaming to your car where Dad has been looking at porn on his phone while he waits for Mom and the kids to finish golfing. It's a tough world out there when you're overprotective.

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hoosier80
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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
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Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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sometimesy

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13 hours ago, JoanArc said:

The desire to have his own life.

He will have to find a way to leave if he wants a life again. He will always have someone with him when he goes out, his wife going through his phone and social media. How can he take it? Does he dare tell Anna to leave him alone. How will this not drive him to betray them just as a reflex? 

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Mollie

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4 hours ago, Vaysh said:

I think we saw Anna working with Kynzie in one episode when Kynzie was pre-school age. Some kind of workbook I think? I remember Mackynzie being a little upset because she wanted it to be perfect and to get all the answers right but she seemed to like the work nevertheless. I think Anna was pretty hands on with Kynzie when it came to home-schooling, at least at first, but who knows how the latest developements have affected the situation. If the Smuggars are living on the compound, Anna might have handed over the teaching of her kids to that Query girl like Michelle did when Jessa vamoosed.

Anna was shown trying to teach Mackynzie how to write a few letters of the alphabet at the same time she was chasing around a 2-year-old and 1-year-old and trying to keep them entertained.  How can a student focus on anything for 15 minutes in that environment?  

In the case of Michelle Duggar, by the time the kids are old enough to read, they have to teach themselves from computer programs and workbooks (which are sold by Gothard's organization and have made him millions of dollars).  

The command to homeschool kids is all about making Gothard money, not about the quality of education.

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Churchhoney

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8 hours ago, yogi2014L said:

Yeah Im fairly sure the Ms probably had no home schooling over the last year while mommy was having a nervous breakdown . 

Well, Tabitha Payne is there. I expect they just added the M kids to her schedule. (which would see her schooling kids from pre-school through the end of high school -- wherever that is in Duggardom. Quite a job.)

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toodles

toodles

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Well, Tabitha Payne is there. I expect they just added the M kids to her schedule. (which would see her schooling kids from pre-school through the end of high school -- wherever that is in Duggardom. Quite a job.)

A one room school house.  How very little house on the prairie.  Except the ingalls were not nearly godly enough.  What with front hugs and all.  And a shirtless pa.

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Joe Jitsu913

Joe Jitsu913

55 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Why should YOU compromise your life because of this fuckwit? Let HIM make the change. It's easy enough to avoid Bumfuck Arkansas. 

Hey, I'll jump at any chance to live there.  It really is too nice of a continent for Josh... unless we're  shipping him to Siberia. Then by all means...I'll pack his thrift -store suitcase. 

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MunichNark

MunichNark

18 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Josh would never survive in Europe.

He would NOT! All them heathens about, no a prairie dress in sight, and you have to send your kids to school (some countries do allow educating at home though). And the food......no chickafilla or whatever that thing is called.

Actually, this may be fun...........sure, ship him over to me......*insert very evil smiley here

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Barb23

Barb23

12 hours ago, toodles said:

A one room school house.  How very little house on the prairie.  Except the ingalls were not nearly godly enough.  What with front hugs and all.  And a shirtless pa.

It still amazes me with that huge TTH, they never had a designated school room(s). IIRC, even  the Bates had one in their old tiny house.  The Duggars have been shown "at school" at the dining room table,  on fold up tables in the playroom, the area upstairs that was originally set up with desk top computers or even in the small closet I think that's in the Girl's Dorm. I realize that with other Homeschoolers it must be nice not to be tied down to a desk or certain area, but when you have that many kids, including the M's, there has to be some type of organization & schedule. Poor Tabitha, I can't imagine trying to keep track of them yet alone their schoolwork. 

Mack seems to be a bright girl & from what little we saw,  interested in school. I hope, too, this past year hasn't affected her too much but I'm sure it has.  Once again, the M's & other Duggar kids  will never be allowed to see a counselor like they would have access to if they were in some type of school system. 

 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

38 minutes ago, MunichNark said:

He would NOT! All them heathens about, no a prairie dress in sight, and you have to send your kids to school (some countries do allow educating at home though). And the food......no chickafilla or whatever that thing is called.

Actually, this may be fun...........sure, ship him over to me......*insert very evil smiley here

I think he'd need a lot of support at first. But, actually, I think that with enough support, Josh would be one of the few Duggars who might actually adapt to Europe (and to other non-fundie places) and like them in the long run.

Whatever else he is, to me he's also the only active rebel among the Duggar kids so far.

I also think he's a lazy jerk who has continued to milk his fundie upbringing to earn money and feel part of at least some community. But I don't actually think he believes any of it or that it actually appeals to him in any way. If he survived in a non-fundie environment long enough to be comfortable admitting this (and I do think that it would probably take a dedicated team of counselors and charitable givers to help him survive that long), I think he'd be one who could live among the world's heathens happily and eventually even find work to support himself at least modestly. He's utterly uneducated, of course, and certainly no genius, but I don't believe he's stupid either and he once had ambitions -- which indicate at least a bit of mental energy. In the long long run, I can see him finding heathen lands about a billion times more comfortable an environment than he ever found Duggardom and potentially rallying his somewhat limited abilities to find work, make friends and build some kind of life among the hellbound.

Obviously, since no charity dedicated to supporting him is going to emerge, I expect he'll just lazily fall back on pretending to be a Jizm Bob clone so he can continue sucking on pop's teat to survive. Ain't gonna be pretty, though, in the long run.

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Aja

Aja

1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

Whatever else he is, to me he's also the only active rebel among the Duggar kids so far.

This is the only point I sort of disagree with. In THEORY, or certainly according to the sanctimonious bullshit they spout, yes, ol' Satanic-heart Joshie was rebelling. But the reality of the IPF cult is that his behavior is hardly rebellious and, relatively speaking, quite tame. He's not suffering any consequences for his sexual deviations right now, and he never will. He's probably in a ton of trouble for bringing the gravy train to a screeching halt, but as far as the molesting and cheating, he was off the hook for that before it ever even happened. It ties him to the cult more than ever, because now the only place he can ever be anything other than a sister-molesting, hooker-banging failure with the IQ of a goldfish is inside the IFB.

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Barb23

Barb23

We have to remember that we, the Duggar followers, know every detail of Joshley's two scandals but does the rest of the country or world know or even care?  Even with me following the Duggars, I know if Josh's resume came across Mr Barb's desk, he may recognize the Duggar name but that would probably be it.  He may remember me talking about something scandalous happening in the family, but wouldn't remember or know it was Josh molesting his sisters.  There's no way he would remember or care about the Joshley Madison thing. If you aren't in the Fundie circles or TLC watcher, you may not have a clue who the Duggars are besides them being the very Christian family who has a lot of kids.  These scandals will become old news, if not totally forgotten especially if the  show isn't renewed. So I can see Joshley & Anna moving out of state & making a go of it in a small town somewhere.  

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

4 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

We have to remember that we, the Duggar followers, know every detail of Joshley's two scandals but does the rest of the country or world know or even care?  Even with me following the Duggars, I know if Josh's resume came across Mr Barb's desk, he may recognize the Duggar name but that would probably be it.  He may remember me talking about something scandalous happening in the family, but wouldn't remember or know it was Josh molesting his sisters.  There's no way he would remember or care about the Joshley Madison thing. If you aren't in the Fundie circles or TLC watcher, you may not have a clue who the Duggars are besides them being the very Christian family who has a lot of kids.  These scandals will become old news, if not totally forgotten especially if the  show isn't renewed. So I can see Joshley & Anna moving out of state & making a go of it in a small town somewhere.  

This is why checking references is needed. And in the day and age of Facebook and Google, Josh will probably have a hard time gaining employment outside the Fundy circle.

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cmr2014

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7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

This is why checking references is needed. And in the day and age of Facebook and Google, Josh will probably have a hard time gaining employment outside the Fundy circle.

I think he would have a hard time getting a job outside fundie circles anyway. He's nearly 30 and the only jobs he's held are running his daddy's car lot, and working for an extremist right-wing political organization. Even without the scandals, who would hire him?

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sometimesy

sometimesy

29 minutes ago, cmr2014 said:

I think he would have a hard time getting a job outside fundie circles anyway. He's nearly 30 and the only jobs he's held are running his daddy's car lot, and working for an extremist right-wing political organization. Even without the scandals, who would hire him?

He parents, Anna works. Simple. Or, they could get rental properties or something with a loan from JB.

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riverblue22

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I can see the Duggar empire expanding beyond Tontitown.  Josh could head up a crew of 10-16 year old flippers the next town over.  I think that will have to be the primary income for this crew after TLC hits the road.  Ain't gonna support dozens of people flipping a few cars.

If Josh were trustworthy he could take a crew up to D.C. where flipping is really profitable.  But he would needs lots of accountability partners all the time.

Vaysh

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I don't see Josh having a hard time finding a job if it's one that requires no face-to-face contact with the public.

There's an evil part of me that hopes Josh's future will involve an eternity of shitty commission-based telemarketing gigs. It would be like going to the Special Hell while still being alive, which to this atheist would be a fitting punishment for his sins.

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Almost 3000

16 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

I can see the Duggar empire expanding beyond Tontitown.  Josh could head up a crew of 10-16 year old flippers the next town over.  I think that will have to be the primary income for this crew after TLC hits the road.  Ain't gonna support dozens of people flipping a few cars.

If Josh were trustworthy he could take a crew up to D.C. where flipping is really profitable.  But he would needs lots of accountability partners all the time.

Sounds sort of like the gypsy driveway paving scams. Buy leftover and inferior crap, toss it at the project and disappear.

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Joe Jitsu913

Joe Jitsu913

16 hours ago, Vaysh said:

There's an evil part of me that hopes Josh's future will involve an eternity of shitty commission-based telemarketing gigs. It would be like going to the Special Hell while still being alive, which to this atheist would be a fitting punishment for his sins.

I would like to see Josh working at Burger King,  flipping burgers for a living (since that's all he's qualified for).  His boss will be a woman and an atheist. 

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riverblue22

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LOL, I was just watching Bill Maher's show where he did a segment saying goodbye to all the loser Republican candidates.  In one shot he showed most of the candidates posed for a photo with Josh Duggar.  Josh with Huckabee, Josh with Scott Walker, Josh with Ben Carson, and so on.  Josh got around!  I wish I could do screen shots!

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GeeGolly

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44 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

LOL, I was just watching Bill Maher's show where he did a segment saying goodbye to all the loser Republican candidates.  In one shot he showed most of the candidates posed for a photo with Josh Duggar.  Josh with Huckabee, Josh with Scott Walker, Josh with Ben Carson, and so on.  Josh got around!  I wish I could do screen shots!

Sin in the camp...

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Muffyn

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Josh has multiple challenges when it comes to securing employment.  He has almost no education.  He has almost no job experience.  He is a known, toxic commodity in whom the press is still interested.  Hire him at your own risk.  And he is a smug, sanctimonious asshole who thinks he is better than everyone else, so he is unlikely to take any job he is actually qualified for.  Unless someone can convince him that pretending to be humbled and trying to work his way up will allow him to regain his former glory, I have a hard time imagining Joshley being willing to take a low level job.

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sometimesy

sometimesy

imo

Josh has 2 options to make money and fame reappear.

1) Redemption

2) Exposé

If he is not interesting in $ and publicity, bahahah, he can work for his dad in construction, rental properties, car flipping etc.  The only way I can see him taking a job like call centre or burger flipping, is if he leaves the public eye and JB. 

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bigskygirl

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Hmmm... I cannot picture Josh flipping burgers especially when people were not happy to see him at the one mini-golf course. Families may not be happy with a business having a known child molester and adultery/porn watcher serving them. I could picture him being a telemarketer. Someone would recognize his voice or who he is and might give him a piece of their mind. I would pay good money to hear that conversation.

Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

1 hour ago, bigskygirl said:

Hmmm... I cannot picture Josh flipping burgers especially when people were not happy to see him at the one mini-golf course. Families may not be happy with a business having a known child molester and adultery/porn watcher serving them. I could picture him being a telemarketer. Someone would recognize his voice or who he is and might give him a piece of their mind. I would pay good money to hear that conversation.

What makes this even worse is that it was a mini-golf course in an extremely conservative part of the country. It's not like they were in a big, evil, liberal city. They were at a place known to be "family friendly," for crying out loud.

I also saw the montage on Real Time. Died laughing...that Smuggar sure got the photo ops with all of the most abhorrent politicians around during his stint at the FRC. And look at where all those guys are now (losers, all). 

The Duggar Curse lives! 

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NikSac

NikSac

4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

What makes this even worse is that it was a mini-golf course in an extremely conservative part of the country. It's not like they were in a big, evil, liberal city. They were at a place known to be "family friendly," for crying out loud.

This reminds me, when I was reading that article I kept thinking to myself "what mini golf courses aren't family friendly?"  I mean isn't that kind of a given?  I'd expect them to make a big deal about it if it was some sort of XXX mini golf (which I'd only even possibly expect to see in Las Vegas anyway), but otherwise I thought it was really funny that they pointed it out.

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

I asked the same question when the story broke. It's something that the DUGGARS would be wont to point out, but the cashier or waitress (can't remember the deets now) who sold the pic and story to InTouch *possibly* (see caveat below) defined it that way, I suppose to make the families leaving more shocking. However, to me, that bit is understood, so I would have understood families leaving; that information wasn't really necessary. Who knows? Maybe InTouch added it. 

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Tabbygirl521

Tabbygirl521

2 hours ago, NikSac said:

This reminds me, when I was reading that article I kept thinking to myself "what mini golf courses aren't family friendly?"  I mean isn't that kind of a given?  I'd expect them to make a big deal about it if it was some sort of XXX mini golf (which I'd only even possibly expect to see in Las Vegas anyway), but otherwise I thought it was really funny that they pointed it out.

If JimBoob and his pelvic thrustimg are liable to make an appearance, "family-friendly" goes straight down the drain. 

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Marigny

Marigny

On 5/8/2016 at 1:48 PM, sometimesy said:

imo

Josh has 2 options to make money and fame reappear.

1) Redemption

2) Exposé

If he is not interesting in $ and publicity, bahahah, he can work for his dad in construction, rental properties, car flipping etc.  The only way I can see him taking a job like call centre or burger flipping, is if he leaves the public eye and JB. 

I smell a book and a redemption tour in the near future. 

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sometimesy

sometimesy

34 minutes ago, Marigny said:

I smell a book and a redemption tour in the near future. 

Bzzzzzzzzzzz!!! In addition to fame, $ and leghumpers dabbing their eyes, door #1 comes with a lifetime of surveillance and domination.

Let's see what you didn't choose -- behind #2 was a key to your free will, a slightly faded and tattered ribbon for first to spill the beans and every $ earned was yours to keep. 

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toodles

toodles

21 hours ago, NikSac said:

This reminds me, when I was reading that article I kept thinking to myself "what mini golf courses aren't family friendly?"  I mean isn't that kind of a given?  I'd expect them to make a big deal about it if it was some sort of XXX mini golf (which I'd only even possibly expect to see in Las Vegas anyway), but otherwise I thought it was really funny that they pointed it out.

I live in Vegas and as far as I know, there are no XXX mini golf courses.  It's not a common occurence to see people dry humping each other on putt putt courses either.  I think that happens on the "special" Duggar courses.

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