Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[absnow54]

Just now, Snow Fairy said:

Did Derick tweet something? Or Amy?

Not yet, but that's what I immediately went to check...

[ElsieEm]

omg YES! So happy and relived  

I'll be celebrating with lunch! 

[3girlsforus]

4 months for sentencing??? I know this isn't unique to this case but geez - that is a long time.

[merylinkid]

Now I want the Sun to do their gossipy stuff and report on everyone's reactions to the verdict.

I hope Josh turned deathly pale and about passed out at the fact he is finally facing consequences for the FIRST TIME in his LIFE.  

[Churchhoney]

7 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

I think that’s likely, given the nature of the charges, and the fact that he has multiple planes at his disposal should he want to flee the country. 

Some Sun stuff

Mandatory detention for Duggar

According to the Sun reporter present when the verdict was given, Judge Brooks said of Josh Duggar's detention, “Mr Duggar 100 percent has been compliant awaiting trial."

"I appreciate that and I wanted to acknowledge that."

"However because of the guilty offenses, he must be detained regardless of flight risk so there will be a mandatory detention."

"The marshalls will set that up.”

xxxxx

Sentencing time

The judge said on Thursday morning that sentencing for Josh Duggar may take about four months.

[Lindsay Loo Hoo]

Josh Duggar was "teary-eyed but not crying" when the verdict was given, according to the Sun reporter, who noted he was "solemn."

Duggar was cuffed immediately.

[3 is enough]

Just now, 3girlsforus said:

4 months for sentencing??? I know this isn't unique to this case but geez - that is a long time.

Meh, 4 months of Josh locked up wondering what his sentence will be sounds good to me.  

[libgirl2]

Just now, merylinkid said:

Now I want the Sun to do their gossipy stuff and report on everyone's reactions to the verdict.

I hope Josh turned deathly pale and about passed out at the fact he is finally facing consequences for the FIRST TIME in his LIFE.  

From the Sun:

Josh Duggar's reaction

Josh Duggar was "teary-eyed but not crying" when the verdict was given, according to the Sun reporter, who noted he was "solemn."

Duggar was cuffed immediately.

[Ohiopirate02]

Just now, 3girlsforus said:

4 months for sentencing??? I know this isn't unique to this case but geez - that is a long time.

It does feel like a long time, but it will count towards his time served.  

[CountryGirl]

10 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I wonder if Josh isn't a little relieved, scared to death ( I would be) but just glad it's over, everything out in the open..no more secrets.

Oh, I would be willing to believe they've just barely scratched the surface on his "secrets."

[libgirl2]

Just now, Ohiopirate02 said:

It does feel like a long time, but it will count towards his time served.  

Yes, but he will be serving time. 

[Annb67]

Just now, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar was "teary-eyed but not crying" when the verdict was given, according to the Sun reporter, who noted he was "solemn."

Duggar was cuffed immediately.

That’s beautiful lol

[libgirl2]

Just now, CountryGirl said:

Oh, I would be willing to believe they've just barely scratched the surface on his "secrets."

I bet there are a lot more. 

[SJC]

12 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

It’s been an honor snarking with all of you during this season of life.

The honor is all mine. 😊

[CandyCaneTree]

11 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

I wonder if Josh isn't a little relieved, scared to death ( I would be) but just glad it's over, everything out in the open..no more secrets.

Are you sure that there is no more secrets?

[Zella]

Channel 5 locally is live streaming the prosecution outside the courthouse. That came up as a push notification for me. They're talking about victims of CSAM being victimized every time the material is viewed. 

[Tuxcat]

Seriously glad Jimbob was there to watch his son cuffed. Sad that Jill, Joy and the others weren't there?

[Jeeves]

1 minute ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Duggar was cuffed immediately.

I only wish there were cameras in court so I could see that happen. About. damn. time.

[Natalie68]

20 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Oh happy day! Those jurors did the Lord Daniel’s work.

(I almost screamed in my meeting.  It would have been noticeable).

Thank god!  It is my Xmas party today and I don't know how I would have kept checking without getting noticed!  I think I am getting a drink at lunch!

[Annb67]

If anyone here is old enough to remember Jim  Bakker getting hauled out of court in cuffs losing his shit? Yeah, I’m going to need to see a moment like that. 😂

[crazy8s]

I wonder how Duddy feels about doing the whole thumbs up and huge smile thing outside court right about now......

[Lindsay Loo Hoo]

Josh Duggar told his wife, Anna Duggar, he loved her on the way out, according to the Sun reporter present for the proceedings on Thursday.

[hathorlive]

6 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

The judge said on Thursday morning that sentencing for Josh Duggar may take about four months.

So here's the sticking point.  Normally this gets you a 10 year sentence. I've never had a case get consecutive sentences, they always run concurrent.  However, the judge seems to dislike Josh and his attorneys.  He seems to understand the harm he's done.  Will he take time to write out a justification for going outside the standard sentence?  We know his average sentence for this is around 8 years, give or take.  Will the abuse of his sisters and danger he presents yield a consecutive sentence?  8 years followed by 8 years? Or will he throw every enhancer at him? Could we see a 20 year sentence for possession/receipt?  I doubt it, but this Judge is pretty fly.

[SJC]

3 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar was "teary-eyed but not crying" when the verdict was given

Boo hoo. 😈

[Jeanne222]

Going through a trial together creates a special bond forever with fellow posters!

[SusanM]

I just tiptoed into this thread holding my breath,  Thank you to everyone posting here.  It's nice to know I am not rejoicing alone!

[iwantcookies]

https://www.nwahomepage.com/josh-duggar-trial/josh-duggar-found-guilty-in-child-pornography-trial/
 

yay! 

[Tabbygirl521]

1 minute ago, Annb67 said:

If anyone here is old enough to remember Jim  Bakker getting hauled out of court in cuffs losing his shit? Yeah, I’m going to need to see a moment like that. 😂

Yesssssss

[Lindsay Loo Hoo]

Jim Bob Duggar hugged Josh Duggar's wife, Anna Duggar, after the verdict was read.

Anna was "completely stoic," according to the Sun reporter.

[SusanM]

2 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar told his wife, Anna Duggar, he loved her on the way out, according to the Sun reporter present for the proceedings on Thursday.

I wish we had a Barf emoticon because that's the only way I can express my reaction to this.

[Jeanne222]

3 minutes ago, hathorlive said:

So here's the sticking point.  Normally this gets you a 10 year sentence. I've never had a case get consecutive sentences, they always run concurrent.  However, the judge seems to dislike Josh and his attorneys.  He seems to understand the harm he's done.  Will he take time to write out a justification for going outside the standard sentence?  We know his average sentence for this is around 8 years, give or take.  Will the abuse of his sisters and danger he presents yield a consecutive sentence?  8 years followed by 8 years? Or will he throw every enhancer at him? Could we see a 20 year sentence for possession/receipt?  I doubt it, but this Judge is pretty fly.

Didn't the judge see those pictures of child pornography?  Nuff said!  

Edited December 9, 2021 by Jeanne222

[pally]

1 minute ago, hathorlive said:

So here's the sticking point.  Normally this gets you a 10 year sentence. I've never had a case get consecutive sentences, they always run concurrent.  However, the judge seems to dislike Josh and his attorneys.  He seems to understand the harm he's done.  Will he take time to write out a justification for going outside the standard sentence?  We know his average sentence for this is around 8 years, give or take.  Will the abuse of his sisters and danger he presents yield a consecutive sentence?  8 years followed by 8 years? Or will he throw every enhancer at him? Could we see a 20 year sentence for possession/receipt?  I doubt it, but this Judge is pretty fly.

How he gets sentenced, the discretionary part anyway, will in some part depend on all the pre-sentencing mandatory mental health evaluations

[Trillium]

2 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar told his wife, Anna Duggar, he loved her on the way out, according to the Sun reporter present for the proceedings on Thursday.

I love you so much that I constantly treated you like shit, whilst cheating on you, committing unspeakable crimes leaving you to parent our 7 young kids alone. But I totes love you, pinky swear! 

[Snow Fairy]

So....will there be happy Christmas parties at the Duggar house this year?

[Jeanne222]

1 minute ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Jim Bob Duggar hugged Josh Duggar's wife, Anna Duggar, after the verdict was read.

Anna was "completely stoic," according to the Sun reporter.

Well surely she didn't think she and Josh were going to waltz out of that courtroom hand and hand!!!

[CountryGirl]

2 minutes ago, SusannahM said:

I wish we had a Barf emoticon because that's the only way I can express my reaction to this.

🤮

[iwantcookies]

He made it into the top news story on daily fail

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10288613/Josh-Duggar-GUILTY-two-counts-child-pornography.html

Edited December 9, 2021 by iwantcookies

[hathorlive]

20 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Now we can all resume our regularly scheduled lives! After proper celebration, of course. It’s been an honor snarking with all of you during this season of life.

I want to thank all of you for the support through this.  I would mention it to friends and they all look at me like "who? Josh who?"  It's good to know that others are as concerned as I am.

[lafcolleen]

Those poor M kids. How do you explain something like this to M-oldest? 

 

and part of the trial testimony is his sexual abuse of girls her age.  

 

That poor kid is going to be so messed in the head with this - 

[Zella]

They're asking the prosecutors what they thought of the defense hitting the remote access so hard in the live stream, and they basically said "no reasonable person looks at that evidence and concludes that, but that's all they had, so they did a good job trying." 

[BetyBee]

2 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

So....will there be happy Christmas parties at the Duggar house this year?

Josh will win the ugly sweater contest, hands down. He'll be the one in the orange jumpsuit.

[Turquoise]

11 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar was "teary-eyed but not crying" when the verdict was given, according to the Sun reporter, who noted he was "solemn."

Duggar was cuffed immediately.

See it's a shame we don't have a picture of that. I would be starstruck.

[SJC]

6 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Josh Duggar told his wife, Anna Duggar, he loved her on the way out

😐

 

6 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Going through a trial together creates a special bond forever with fellow posters!

I feel so much love for you all today. 💞

[Churchhoney]

4 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Didn't the judge see those pictures of child pornography?  Nuff said!  

This judge has seen those a lot of times before, though. So....gotta be something more that would cause him to go beyond the sentences he's generally been handing out, I think. 

[SusanM]

1 minute ago, sue450 said:

so if it will take 4 month until sentenced and turns out josh abused his children will this influence the judges  sentencing??

If they find evidence wouldn't he be tried again on separate charges? She asked hopefully.

 

1 minute ago, hathorlive said:

I want to thank all of you for the support through this.  I would mention it to friends and they all look at me like "who? Josh who?"  It's good to know that others are as concerned as I am.

Same here, I mentioned this to my husband and he didn't know who I was talking about and was barely aware of the existence of the original show.

[Tuxcat]

Just now, Zella said:

They're asking the prosecutors what they thought of the defense hitting the remote access so hard in the live stream, and they basically said "no reasonable person looks at that evidence and concludes that, but that's all they had, so they did a good job trying." 

So glad I get to see and hear the prosecutors. Really glad they did the press conference.

[starfire]

Is there a mandatory minimum sentence for this conviction?  Thank you to the jury!!!!

[Zella]

Just now, Churchhoney said:

This judge has seen those a lot of times before, though. So....gotta be something more that would cause him to go beyond the sentences he's generally been handing out, I think. 

Not trying to be too graphic, but the sentencing enhancements for CSAM factor in a couple of things about the material he had. I think it's quite possible Josh does get a longer sentence. 

[absnow54]

2 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Josh will win the ugly sweater contest, hands down. He'll be the one in the orange jumpsuit.

The family can be pretty tasteless in their jokes, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Howlers dressed as Jailhouse Josh. 

[Zella]

Just now, Tuxcat said:

So glad I get to see and hear the prosecutors. Really glad they did the press conference.

Me too! It was nice to put faces to names.