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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

Churchhoney
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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

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30 minutes ago, sheshark said:

What is their non-compete all about?

TLC would've had a clause in the contract for 'Counting On' which would prevent any of them from signing with another network to appear on a different reality show.  It's pretty standard in the industry and would be time limited, so that, after that it expires, they would be able to move on to a new gig with another network.  Counting on was canceled around July, after Josh' arrest, they probably can sign with someone else a year from the date the show was canceled.

As noted, though, I'm not seeing Jer and Jing really having a niche in the reality world based on their social media presence.  Neither has an interesting job, they don't seem to have marketable skills like home renovation, decor or cooking.  MTV does some lifestyle-type shows as does E; but they are not the Kardashians or Jersey Shore clones; although their penchant for shopping and eating out and being seen at fancy events does make them most suitable for that sort of gig.  Other than the fact that they're boring as he**.

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Zella

Zella

19 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Yes, JerME would be highly offended. I'm sure he thinks that term is ok for his meek wife, but not for a worldly homie like himself!

TV exec: "We think Los Angeles Hillbillies is a great name for the show."

Jeremy--"How about--now hear me out--Los Angeles Homies?"

TV exec: "Nah we want to play on the Beverly Hillbillies."

Jeremy: "But I'm not a hillbilly, goddamnit! I'm a homie." 

TV exec: 👀

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galaxygirl76

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11 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

J & J may live in LA, but that's where their association with Hollywood stops. They're two, two-bit reality TV 'stars'. Even if they found a successful path, their success will never be anything on par with anything considered 'Hollywood'.

I'm sure he's begging for a spot on dancing with the stars. For himself. 

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MaryAnneSpier

MaryAnneSpier

One of their many problems is that they’re too “secular”for most of the Christian media (tv stations, radio programs etc) but too religious for the secular world.  And unfortunately, Jeremy has made it very public what his beliefs and views are of certain people, and that’s not going to fly for most Americans.  I really think he would have done better trying to be a “motivational speaker”. They’re quite similar to mega church pastors but they leave God out of it and thus are more palatable.  

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1 minute ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

One of their many problems is that they’re too “secular”for most of the Christian media (tv stations, radio programs etc) but too religious for the secular world.  And unfortunately, Jeremy has made it very public what his beliefs and views are of certain people, and that’s not going to fly for most Americans.  I really think he would have done better trying to be a “motivational speaker”. They’re quite similar to mega church pastors but they leave God out of it and thus are more palatable.  

Except he is known to be a horrible speaker. 

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Girl in a Cardigan

Girl in a Cardigan

1 hour ago, Zella said:

Exactly where are they in LA? Pretty much everything I know about LA geography comes from The Rockford Files and James M. Cain. LOL

According to Google, TMS is in Sun Valley (and that seems familiar for some of their food recs) which is in the Valley, north of North Hollywood. So, Los Angeles, but not what you would typically think about LA. (Screenshot is small, but hopefully, you can still make "Los Angeles" and the red circle)

Every time I see them getting coffee or shopping in Beverly Hills or other recognizable location, I just think about how far they drove and how much traffic they sat in to get those photo ops.

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quarks

quarks

They've presumably got a few elevator pitches and possibly even a few treatments ready to go right now. One or two of them - for instance, a spinoff of sorts comparing/contrasting Jeremy/Jinger with either his brother or with Katey Duggar's gay half-brother - could probably at least get them in front of a network executive....

....but the Josh stuff is going to be a problem. It would help if they were even slightly more interesting on camera, but at this point, that's either a skill that they can't develop, or are unwilling to develop. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Girl in a Cardigan said:

According to Google, TMS is in Sun Valley (and that seems familiar for some of their food recs) which is in the Valley, north of North Hollywood. So, Los Angeles, but not what you would typically think about LA. (Screenshot is small, but hopefully, you can still make "Los Angeles" and the red circle)

Every time I see them getting coffee or shopping in Beverly Hills or other recognizable location, I just think about how far they drove and how much traffic they sat in to get those photo ops.

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Same. They drive quite a ways to try and impress their followers who probably don’t realize they don’t live in Beverly Hills.

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2 minutes ago, quarks said:

They've presumably got a few elevator pitches and possibly even a few treatments ready to go right now. One or two of them - for instance, a spinoff of sorts comparing/contrasting Jeremy/Jinger with either his brother or with Katey Duggar's gay half-brother - could probably at least get them in front of a network executive....

....but the Josh stuff is going to be a problem. It would help if they were even slightly more interesting on camera, but at this point, that's either a skill that they can't develop, or are unwilling to develop. 

 

Comparing and contrasting would be an interesting idea, IF they were honest about themselves. I don’t trust that they would be honest. They would also have to convince Jeremy’s brother and Katey’s brother to join the famewhoring game, and I’ve seen no signs that either is interested in doing so.

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28 minutes ago, Girl in a Cardigan said:

According to Google, TMS is in Sun Valley (and that seems familiar for some of their food recs) which is in the Valley, north of North Hollywood. So, Los Angeles, but not what you would typically think about LA. (Screenshot is small, but hopefully, you can still make "Los Angeles" and the red circle)

Every time I see them getting coffee or shopping in Beverly Hills or other recognizable location, I just think about how far they drove and how much traffic they sat in to get those photo ops.

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Honestly, what on earth else do they have to do all day except drive all over for photo ops to make them appear oh-so-cool?

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Zella

Zella

1 hour ago, Girl in a Cardigan said:

According to Google, TMS is in Sun Valley (and that seems familiar for some of their food recs) which is in the Valley, north of North Hollywood. So, Los Angeles, but not what you would typically think about LA. (Screenshot is small, but hopefully, you can still make "Los Angeles" and the red circle)

Every time I see them getting coffee or shopping in Beverly Hills or other recognizable location, I just think about how far they drove and how much traffic they sat in to get those photo ops.

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Hahahaha okay even with my limited knowledge of the town, yeah, that is quite the distance to be pretending they're in the middle of things. 

Sun Valley Homies just doesn't have quite the same ring to it. 

 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

1 hour ago, quarks said:

They've presumably got a few elevator pitches and possibly even a few treatments ready to go right now. One or two of them - for instance, a spinoff of sorts comparing/contrasting Jeremy/Jinger with either his brother or with Katey Duggar's gay half-brother - could probably at least get them in front of a network executive....

....but the Josh stuff is going to be a problem. It would help if they were even slightly more interesting on camera, but at this point, that's either a skill that they can't develop, or are unwilling to develop. 

 

I'm not convinced Jer'd be willing to pitch a comparison to either one of those brothers, though. Two reasons --

First, both are involved with sex/gender issues that MacArthur and company, including Jer, take very hard public lines against. So he might well get hit with disapproval from the people he's depending on for future employment if he agreed to appear as a regular on a tv show where the sexuality matters the show's other stars approve of get equal billing with what his gang preaches -- and no condemnation from the producers. 

Second, while Jer's a dim bulb, he's probably smart enough to know that one or both of those guys could come off looking way cooler than he and Jingle could manage to look on tv;! And he couldn't bear that happening -- He must be the "breakout star" and while that's fairly easy when you're competing against Jana and JD, when the competition changes to people in the current mainstream, it's a lot less likely. So I think he'd probably be afraid of that, too. 

An agent might suggest that idea, but I don't see Jer going for it. But maybe I underestimate him! Unless they actually get a show, we'll probably never know what things they would agree to, though. While I find them boring as hell, I would be interested to know what Jer actually would be willing to do to get his fame hunger satisfied. 

 

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quarks

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18 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I'm not convinced Jer'd be willing to pitch a comparison to either one of those brothers, though. Two reasons --

First, both are involved with sex/gender issues that MacArthur and company, including Jer, take very hard public lines against. So he might well get hit with disapproval from the people he's depending on for future employment if he agreed to appear as a regular on a tv show where the sexuality matters the show's other stars approve of get equal billing with what his gang preaches -- and no condemnation from the producers. 

 

 

....maybe. Or they, or Jeremy, might be convinced that this would be a wonderful way to show the clear benefits of not embracing that alternative lifestyle. It also depends upon how it's framed and more importantly, what studio/network/streamer it's sold to.

Though --

 

20 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Second, while Jer's a dim bulb, he's probably smart enough to know that one or both of those guys could come off looking way cooler than he and Jingle could manage to look on tv;! And he couldn't bear that happening -- He must be the "breakout star" and while that's fairly easy when you're competing against Jana and JD, when the competition changes to people in the current mainstream, it's a lot less likely. So I think he'd probably be afraid of that, too. 

 

100% agreement.

But honestly, this is only one of many shows that Jin/Jer could potentially pitch - and if not for Josh, potentially get. After all, from my Twitter feed today:

 

 

And it's quite probable that a number of these streaming services will want to provide a specific "Christian streaming" - the market is definitely there. And I think, pre-arrest/trial, they had a pretty good shot at one.  And they still might - if they can maneuver this week very carefully.

 

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Popping back in here to note that although I think Jinger and Jeremy could sell a show and will probably keep trying to sell a show - along with a number of other half-baked ideas that they never end up following through on - I continue to believe that their best bet is for Jeremy to get a PhD, head to a small Christian college somewhere, and then do a number of public speaking gigs/webisode stuff.  He might even be able to pitch some sort of boring documentary about....well, something involved with that.

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Zella

Zella

8 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I can't picture homie teaching. He's too arrogant. 

It's also a lot of work if you're even attempting to do it right. I taught 2 sections of freshman-level comp every semester for 2 years. Even with a syllabus and assignments I refined via practice to where I could probably still do them in my sleep, you still have to prep and grade assignments. This guy couldn't even be bothered to show up most Sundays when he was a church's preacher.

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17 minutes ago, Zella said:

It's also a lot of work if you're even attempting to do it right. I taught 2 sections of freshman-level comp every semester for 2 years. Even with a syllabus and assignments I refined via practice to where I could probably still do them in my sleep, you still have to prep and grade assignments. This guy couldn't even be bothered to show up most Sundays when he was a church's preacher.

He’d would have shown up if Jer was fed $20 burgers and $5 artisanal donuts and $10 coffee... Priorities 🤣

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Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, quarks said:

 

And it's quite probable that a number of these streaming services will want to provide a specific "Christian streaming" - the market is definitely there. And I think, pre-arrest/trial, they had a pretty good shot at one.  And they still might - if they can maneuver this week very carefully.

 

Yeah, this one seems the most plausible to me......I don't think it'd be Jer's first choice -- but I think he'd take it! 

28 minutes ago, Zella said:

It's also a lot of work if you're even attempting to do it right. I taught 2 sections of freshman-level comp every semester for 2 years. Even with a syllabus and assignments I refined via practice to where I could probably still do them in my sleep, you still have to prep and grade assignments. This guy couldn't even be bothered to show up most Sundays when he was a church's preacher.

I can imagine taking a teaching job. But, like you, I can't imagine him being any good at it -- too much work in multiple ways......But.....lots of teachers -- and in my experience, especially professors -- aren't very good at it.....So what's one more lazy prof? 

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Zella

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3 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

But.....lots of teachers -- and in my experience, especially professors -- aren't very good at it.....So what's one more lazy prof? 

In my experience, the tenured ones were the lazy ones. The ones who were working on getting tenure? Much more industrious. Also usually much more likely to help you. You can't just roll in from the start and be a lazy ass. You gotta work your way up to it. LOL 

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Churchhoney

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Just now, Zella said:

In my experience, the tenured ones were the lazy ones. The ones who were working on getting tenure? Much more industrious. Also usually much more likely to help you. You can't just roll in from the start and be a lazy ass. You gotta work your way up to it. LOL 

Yeah, I agree. You're absolutely right about the tenured profs generally being the lazy ones.....

.I can't picture Jer starting out working hard, though! ....So I guess I'm picturing him being a lazy assistant or adjunct......who fairly quickly goes somewhere else to do something else because there's no way he'd ever work hard starting out. Look what he did as a beginning pastor! ....And I think may have been true about what he did as a beginning pro athlete, too......

In every case, it's the "job" part of a job that won't be up Jer's alley. 😁

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29 minutes ago, Zella said:

It's also a lot of work if you're even attempting to do it right. I taught 2 sections of freshman-level comp every semester for 2 years. Even with a syllabus and assignments I refined via practice to where I could probably still do them in my sleep, you still have to prep and grade assignments. This guy couldn't even be bothered to show up most Sundays when he was a church's preacher.

Yes. I certainly should have been more clear. I'm not expecting him to do it right. 

1 minute ago, Zella said:

In my experience, the tenured ones were the lazy ones. The ones who were working on getting tenure? Much more industrious. Also usually much more likely to help you. You can't just roll in from the start and be a lazy ass. You gotta work your way up to it. LOL 

I'm also not expecting him to work to get tenure or be focused on that.

I'm expecting him to have a light course load, supplemented by speaking engagements, and used by the college less for teaching and more to raise their profile with students and donors. And I'm expecting him to rotate around several colleges.

That is, if he does this, and doesn't instead just stick with the Hollywood thing.

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

I think Jer will continue doing what he's doing now until some opportunity falls in his lap. Or maybe he'll make a go at politics. Maybe that's actually what he's being groomed for now. Who knows. But Jeremy doesn't seem to be a solo player, he needs a team of sorts.

Yeah, I agree. I'm sure he's going to stay as part of the MacArthur enterprise, possibly for as long as they'll have him and can still pay a salary. There seems to be a lot of little stuff around there that they're happy to have him do -- from administrative tasks to talking to college students etc etc. It's in the right city. The work doesn't seem too taxing. There are lot of people on staff so he doesn't carry any major responsibilities. He gets attention.....His kind of thing, really.  

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Zella

Zella

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4 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Yeah, I agree. You're absolutely right about the tenured profs generally being the lazy ones.....

.I can't picture Jer starting out working hard, though! ....So I guess I'm picturing him being a lazy assistant or adjunct......who fairly quickly goes somewhere else to do something else because there's no way he'd ever work hard starting out. Look what he did as a beginning pastor! ....And I think may have been true about what he did as a beginning pro athlete, too......

In every case, it's the "job" part of a job that won't be up Jer's alley. 😁

When I was at the U of A, there was a guy who shared an office with several of us other TAs. We named him Captain Crumb because the nasty fuck kept leaving snack crumbs all over his shared desk. We were assigned to observe each other's classrooms. When I observed his, he clearly showed up unprepared and just bullshitted his way through the hour. He never showed up to observe my class. He told me he had to get his hair cut instead. Every time I walked by him in the office, he was updating his resume. He was gone the next semester. We still talked about him 2 years later. 

I never thought of him in relation to Jeremy before but it kind of fits. I think the only reason he's still in his current program is how far he has his nose planted up MacArthur's ass. 

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3 minutes ago, quarks said:

I'm expecting him to have a light course load, supplemented by speaking engagements, and used by the college less for teaching and more to raise their profile with students and donors. And I'm expecting him to rotate around several colleges.

I know a lot of people who basically are professional adjuncts who teach at multiple colleges simultaneously, and they aren't being hired to raise the college's profile. They're being hired because they're a cheap way to teach classes without giving someone benefits. Genteel poverty is what they always called it, and it's a big part of why I didn't pursue getting a PhD. I knew people who had been doing it for 10-15 years and were nearing retirement age without ever actually getting a full-time job because the job market was so saturated and competitive. 

For this reason, I have a really hard time envisioning any college hiring him for some plum job just because he exists. 

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Zella

Zella

Just now, MargeGunderson said:

I taught adjunct for a few semesters and it was rough! Anywhere from 10-20 hours prepping, plus class time every week, and then another 20 if I had to grade assignments. The pay was terrible -$2500 a semester. I can’t see Jer doing anything like that.

It's not for the faint of heart, that's for sure. 

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iwantcookies

iwantcookies

That’s like 10 pairs of sneakers lol 

2 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

I taught adjunct for a few semesters and it was rough! Anywhere from 10-20 hours prepping, plus class time every week, and then another 20 if I had to grade assignments. The pay was terrible -$2500 a semester. I can’t see Jer doing anything like that.

 

Jeremy is too lazy and smug… He is another HUNK except he is not obese yet. 
 

I just looked no new posts. 
 

Not even promoting their children’s book. 

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quarks

quarks

32 minutes ago, Zella said:

I know a lot of people who basically are professional adjuncts who teach at multiple colleges simultaneously, and they aren't being hired to raise the college's profile. They're being hired because they're a cheap way to teach classes without giving someone benefits. Genteel poverty is what they always called it, and it's a big part of why I didn't pursue getting a PhD. I knew people who had been doing it for 10-15 years and were nearing retirement age without ever actually getting a full-time job because the job market was so saturated and competitive. 

For this reason, I have a really hard time envisioning any college hiring him for some plum job just because he exists. 

I know a number of adjuncts in the same position.

That's not what I'm talking about here at all. 

I'm talking about a college hiring a somewhat known person for what is "technically" a full time teaching/research position - not adjuncting -  but with a contract that specifies that 75 to 85% of said person's time will be spent in "service," which in this particular case means "fundraising" and "raising the school's profile."

Jeremy is a D list reality TV star with a social media following, and one book that can sorta be called an "Amazon bestseller," and another book that I'm sure will be correctly tagged to also become an "Amazon bestseller." Even with just the MA, it might well look financially worthwhile  for a small, obscure college to hire him for $35,000 to $65,000 per year to get their name listed on various conferences/speaking engagements. For Jeremy, the school association will make it easier for him to get to those conferences, and supplement his salary. They can part on decent terms after a couple of years, and Jeremy can head on to the next school, and the next.

This is not nearly as common as profiting off adjuncts, but colleges of all sizes do this sort of thing all the time. 

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