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The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

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Spencer Hastings
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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

Churchhoney
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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

GeeGolly
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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

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53 minutes ago, Zella said:

I'm wondering if they feared the backlash once people noted the change in wording. The comment section was already getting a touch hostile with people saying they were surprised Jinger was doing this. Have no idea why they were surprised--they must not have been paying attention to the desperate fame whoring Jinger and Jeremy have been doing for awhile. But I could see that really escalating once Jinger tacitly admitted that she had lied. Because that's what she did. 

Good point.  ....

Maybe they learned something! Don't do the crime if you don't want to see backlash time. 

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Zella

Zella

1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

Good point.  ....

Maybe they learned something! Don't do the crime if you don't want to see backlash time. 

I'm thinking they might be pretty discouraged at the moment. They've removed the Q & A videos, apparently, and this, and neither was well-received. I would actually have quite a bit of respect for Jinger and Jeremy if they had a come to Jesus moment and realized that the whole influencer thing isn't working because they are bad at it and stopped being such thirsty try-hards. Unfortunately, I suspect they are just going to develop a martyr complex and double down even harder. 

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1 minute ago, Zella said:

I'm thinking they might be pretty discouraged at the moment. They've removed the Q & A videos, apparently, and this, and neither was well-received. I would actually have quite a bit of respect for Jinger and Jeremy if they had a come to Jesus moment and realized that the whole influencer thing isn't working because they are bad at it and stopped being such thirsty try-hards. Unfortunately, I suspect they are just going to develop a martyr complex and double down even harder. 

I wish I didn't think the future you depict is so likely......

Totally agree about having respect for them if they'd retrench and try seriously to learn something. 

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6 minutes ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Did she gnaw through the rind?! I think the lesson you're supposed to learn there is that you should peel and section the orange for your child, Jeremy, instead of writing a Tide commercial...

I thought the same thing, it looks like she bit into it like an apple.  I don't think orange peels are meant to be consumed, Jeremy, you idiot.

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Churchhoney

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I kinda doubt she ate any of the rind or even bit through it, though....They're pretty bitter and most kids aren't wild about that taste, as far as I know. (adults usually aren't either!)

So maybe he ripped the top of the rind off and then handed it to her? If so, she's got no choice but to eat it the way she's eating it because she'd have a hard time finishing the peeling operation herself... She hasn't got the fingers and fingernails for it. 

Just hoping that's not an orange that's easy to break into sections, because if it is it's all a big waste....

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7 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

You are right.  The only people who can ignore their followers are the Kardashian-Jenner clan.  Everyone else has to give the illusion of connection.  Jeremy and Jinger need to have a roster of responses so they look like they care.  Their followers see these comments and replies, and then feel like someone is listening and leave their own comment.  Then the number of comments and likes increases, and maybe the number of followers as well.  Right now, people are sitting at home wanting connection.  Give it to them and they will respond.  That response will generate the money.  One person killing it on Instagram during this pandemic is the actor Leslie Jordan.  He has been posting hilarious videos throughout the pandemic.  He has over 4 million followers and his latest video has been seen by a million of them.  Getting the attention of 1/4 of your followers is some amazing stats.  It can be done if you actually have content.

That would require some sort of talent and/or imagination. Jeremy was a soccer player at one point. Jinger plays piano. I'm not sure what other talents they have beyond just being downright embarrassing. 

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Nysha

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They don't seem to understand that they can't just declare themselves influencers and the world will go along. It might look easy, but it's a lot of work. First, they have to figure out who they are, who their audience is, and what their hook/story is. They seem to think if they just throw enough crap at the wall something will stick, but all these breakout attempts do is highlight just how incredibly boring, lazy, and unimaginative these two are.

If they were really honest with their audience they could have had a great story line in Jeremy gets his master's degree while Jessa transitions from small town girl to urban woman. But neither of them are willing to show people who they really are, it's all make-believe perfect life with a few make-believe problems so they stay relatable. It's easy to see through their BS because neither of them are believable actors. 

*Sigh* I just want to take these Duggar adult kids and knock some sense into them. They can get what they want, they just have to WORK for it.

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1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Even if Jinger is telling the truth, what kind of person makes a business agreement without "reviewing" it first?

Yes, the minions in the comments seem to be claiming Jinger's only problem was she didn't review all the accounts she wanted people to sign up for. They seem to think this acquits Jinger, but that's a horrible business practice and also ignores the fact that she was not disclosing it was sponsored after all. I did see some people pointing out that Jinger should have taken the time to have posted an apology and an explanation as a post rather than a comment, but that's being ignored. It's not good optics for budding grifters influencers. 

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8 minutes ago, Zella said:

Yes, the minions in the comments seem to be claiming Jinger's only problem was she didn't review all the accounts she wanted people to sign up for. They seem to think this acquits Jinger, but that's a horrible business practice and also ignores the fact that she was not disclosing it was sponsored after all. I did see some people pointing out that Jinger should have taken the time to have posted an apology and an explanation as a post rather than a comment, but that's being ignored. It's not good optics for budding grifters influencers. 

I was going to ask if she explained why the post was gone. I guess she did - sort of.

I agree, the minute the post came down, an explanation should have gone up.

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Churchhoney

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16 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Jinger's response is unsatisfactory. I've never heard of IG posts going "live" as in automatically posted to her page. I believe that they knew exactly what they were doing; they're just upset that they got caught. 

Plus, she made the video. That was her talking. And she wasn't following any script. She was talking entirely as herself. And it was the video that really couched the post in a pack of pretty lies. Total lies. 

They did know exactly what they were doing. 

They may have not allowed themselves to think that it could be unethical or that their omission of facts amounted to lies that would absolutely mislead their followers (to whom they're so grateful, Jinge said in the video).

But pretending to yourself that you're behaving ethically when you're perfectly capable of understanding that you're not is no excuse. Especially when you're tooting about your godliness all over place. 

It just never ever occurred to them that they'd get called out on it and forced to look at what they were actually doing. And now they're telling more lies to try to avoid the realization. All this wriggling to try to get off the hook is also not a good look. 

 

 

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Bullshit! She knew exactly who she got involved with and it was really tacky that her management thought it was a good idea to do shady shit.

Not only did she post a video explaining the rules, she even made a separate page where she posted additional videos telling people to comment on the 46 accounts for an extra entry. There was one post telling people not to mention her name on these accounts. I believe Instagram suspends your account for a while if you try to follow too many accounts at once or if you comment on too many accounts, so she even had a post telling people to wait a few hours and try again later. How do do all that work and still say they didn't closely review the post. 

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emma675

emma675

The post wasn't up long enough for me to figure out what it was, but it doesn't sound good. Even the most savvy influencer, who has an agent and people who vet opportunities for them, should still read the post that's going up on their account. That's your brand, your online face, so it reflects back on you when it's screwed up. They aren't even amateurs at this, they are just lazy and entitled. 

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BigBingerBro

Anything that's forced and not organic is sketchy to me.  They should fire their handlers if this is what they are pushing them to do.  I would think that a legit influencing advisor would help them shape their online presence in a more natural way.  Why the big need to "give back"?  I could think of dozens of ways to do that without resorting to cheap gimmicks.

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GeeGolly

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An article popped up on my newsfeed about influencers doing what is called "looping". I guess a bunch of influencers get together, independently or through an agent, and pool resources to award a prize. The article say some influencers don't give a shit and go along with whatever, where others carefully vet each other, before coming together to make a deal. One was quoted as saying its a win-win, someone gets a prize and the influencers get more followers. Many are offering Peloton bikes right now.

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