S08.E07: Airing Your Dirty Laundry

[ElDosEquis]

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 7:33 PM, Sheenieb said:

 

 

 

That drunk ass dude was too damn much, but his slurring of TRAAAAASH did make me laugh. Next time, Lu, get yourself a hitachi magic wand and don't bang disrespectful famewhores.

 

HI, I am the Countess De Lesseps and I want to tell you about the Hitachi Magic Wand 2.0, It has an industrial strength motor, has a new '11' setting and is waterproof  - the handle is also textured - great in wet or dry situations.....tee hee............

[ElDosEquis]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 4:00 PM, Trooper York said:

 

(I say that out of love. I also hate to break it to you....but unicorns aren't real. Sorry.)

when I read that I had a vision of the vanderpump ponies wearing cardboard cones on their heads with lisa in tow, saying things like "they really ah mahgical, dahr-ling"

[Beden]

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Anything is possible.  But NYC in the summer is pretty awful.  That's why every one takes off for the Hamptons or the Jersey Shore.  The tall buildings and all the concrete hold the heat and humidity like a furnace.  Not to mention all the construction going on in her area. 

Too true, hence the nick name 'baked apple'. NY in the summer is frigging hot, humid, and often smells not great.

[quaintirene]

Apart from Bethenny and her Skinny Girl empire, and Tre Giudice and her cookery books, has any business venture by any ho'wife on any show made a dime?  I know for a fact the books all tanked.  Apparently BLK is selling somewhere to someone.  But it's not a household name.  Apart from that, what happened to Sonja's clothing line?  Gretchen Beaute, Alexis Couture, Cuffs by Lynne Curtin, Gretchen 'Designer' Handbags, Nene's clothing line, Whatsername Tre's cousin's cookbook and dessert line?  Is Ramona's Pinot successful?  Because Vickie's Vodka sure wasn't.

 

Why do all these ho's think their name on some product is gonna make $$$$$$$$?  It's only a matter of time before Dorinda's Martini Mix...

[ButterQueen]

Personally, I saw nothing wrong with John putting his hands in Ramona's drunken face.  She was out of control.  I am a woman, and if I act like a lunatic, I deserve what I get.  I wish John would have popped one of her new titties.  I can't stand that woman and her behavior.

[archer1267]

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Apart from Bethenny and her Skinny Girl empire, and Tre Giudice and her cookery books, has any business venture by any ho'wife on any show made a dime?

Heather already had an established business so I'm not going to count that.

I'd forgotten LuAnn's clothing line when I made a comment earlier about Bethenny seemingly being the only one working. I think she's been on QVC and is selling her clothing here. I couldn't find any info on how the collection is doing (but then again I didn't look very hard!) but I would guess that it's doing all right. Not enough to make her a household name, but enough to help pay property taxes.

Brandi Glanville's wine (Unfiltered Blonde) received 90 points from Wine Enthusiast, but I don't know how it's selling.

I don't know what happened to Jill Zarin's Skweez Couture. It has a web site but it doesn't look like it's been updated since 2011, and when I clicked on store locator, I got a "coming soon!" message.

[WireWrap]

8 minutes ago, archer1267 said:

Heather already had an established business so I'm not going to count that.

I'd forgotten LuAnn's clothing line when I made a comment earlier about Bethenny seemingly being the only one working. I think she's been on QVC and is selling her clothing here. I couldn't find any info on how the collection is doing (but then again I didn't look very hard!) but I would guess that it's doing all right. Not enough to make her a household name, but enough to help pay property taxes.

Brandi Glanville's wine (Unfiltered Blonde) received 90 points from Wine Enthusiast, but I don't know how it's selling.

I don't know what happened to Jill Zarin's Skweez Couture. It has a web site but it doesn't look like it's been updated since 2011, and when I clicked on store locator, I got a "coming soon!" message.

Luann is on EVINE, not QVC and Nene has a line on HSN. Both Luann and Nene seem to be doing well with their clothing lines, they have been at it for 2 years on their respective shopping channels. LisaV is also in her second year selling on EVINE and the Dubrow's are in their first year at the same shopping channel with their skincare line, again, both seem to be selling well.

Funny that QVC and Bethenny parted ways after a very short run.

[jaync]

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In an off hand conversation with the wife about Luann and her propensity to lubricate, the wife said, "At least she is doing it right, I am jealous."

Vaginal lubrication and squirting are two different things. Your wife isn't doing anything wrong by not doing the latter.

[archer1267]

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Luann is on EVINE, not QVC

Actually, looks like we were both right. She did go on QVC, but maybe not for her clothing.

[WireWrap]

20 minutes ago, archer1267 said:

Actually, looks like we were both right. She did go on QVC, but maybe not for her clothing.

I'll be darned! Luann has branched out! LOL

[ElDosEquis]

49 minutes ago, jaync said:

Vaginal lubrication and squirting are two different things. Your wife isn't doing anything wrong by not doing the latter.

I'll pass that on to the mail man..........

[Umbelina]

15 hours ago, archer1267 said:

I think squirting is often associated with porn (i.e., something you don't think exists outside of porn), and it's a bit of a novelty. I don't think it's shameful and LuAnn can continue to fly her libertine flag for all I care. But it's gross for Harry Dubin to be spilling the details of his escapades with mutual friends/acquaintances to Ramona. If anyone should be wearing a scarlet letter, he should wear a B for blabbermouth.

I'm thinking that Adam applies the same laid-back, mellow approach to everything in his life. I think he and Carole have a similar temperament in that way.

I don't watch porn.  The first time I ever heard about it was on Sex and The City.  Samantha was having a lesbian relationship briefly and she squirted after oral sex with the woman, shocking her.  Her partner, Maria, assured her it was normal and wonderful, played by Sonja Braga!

Edited May 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[Almost 3000]

2 hours ago, ElDosEquis said:

I'll pass that on to the mail man..........

I always love a good mailman joke. We always used to jokingly say that the mailman was my father.  Well, he was a postal carrier and married to my mother and really my dad...we thought it was funny.

[ElDosEquis]

5 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

I always love a good mailman joke. We always used to jokingly say that the mailman was my father.  Well, he was a postal carrier and married to my mother and really my dad...we thought it was funny.

I am six inches taller than anyone in my family.

We had a woman mail carrier growing up....I should have asked... 

[Beden]

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I always love a good mailman joke. We always used to jokingly say that the mailman was my father.  Well, he was a postal carrier and married to my mother and really my dad...we thought it was funny.

I am six inches taller than anyone in my family.

We had a woman mail carrier growing up....I should have asked... 

Dating myself but we blamed it on the milkman.

And, maybe it's just me, but I find the whole squirting thing vulgar--thank you Romona. I'm not a prude--at least I don't think I am but is that really the best you can do?

[anonymiss]

On 5/24/2016 at 9:05 PM, archer1267 said:

I think squirting is often associated with porn (i.e., something you don't think exists outside of porn)

That's surprises me. I've never thought it doesn't exist outside of porn. I know it definitely exists amongst women I know of different generations. 

(The first time I heard about it was when I was a kid watching a sex ed. program, the Sunday Night Sex Show with nurse Sue Johanson.)

Edited May 25, 2016 by anonymiss

[Satchels of gold]

I guess I'm a 12 year old boy trapped in a 50 year old woman's body because I can't wait for a new episode so we can put the discussion of bodily fluids behind us. Until then I'm putting my fingers in my ears ?la la la la, I can't hear you?

[eurekagirl mOo]

Thank you Satchels of gold! I'm 58 and I never want to hear this discussion again. Just yech. Personal info should stay personal......for a reason.LaLaLaLaLa

And I love your "new" name. Congrats on changing it!

9 minutes ago, Satchels of gold said:

I guess I'm a 12 year old boy trapped in a 50 year old woman's body because I can't wait for a new episode so we can put the discussion of bodily fluids behind us. Until then I'm putting my fingers in my ears ?la la la la, I can't hear you?

[bosawks]

18 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

I always love a good mailman joke. We always used to jokingly say that the mailman was my father.  Well, he was a postal carrier and married to my mother and really my dad...we thought it was funny.

My mom was a postal carrier and when I was a teenager if she was out with her work friends and someone called for her I would say she was out with her "mail" friends and could I take a message.

I believe I fancied myself a young Dorothy Parker........

[archer1267]

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That's surprises me. I've never thought it doesn't exist outside of porn.

I think my original meaning has gotten lost in the shuffle, and/or I wasn't clear to begin with. Probably the latter!

I know squirting exists outside of porn. Of course it does. My point was, I think many people know female ejaculation exists because of porn. (Maybe I hang out with guys too much - I know many men, with healthy relationships, who came to know certain things via watching porn.) Way upthread, there was speculation that Ramona was shaming LuAnn, and that it carried a stigma. I thought that maybe because it's something you often see in porn movies (not mainstream movies or tv shows, outside of Californication!), it can carry a stigma. And not for everyone, but for some.

I think the human body's capable of many things that we only have the faintest clue about. Good for LuAnn for being able to add it to the repertoire. Ramona's a graceless oaf for using it to get a reaction.

[Grey Goose]

On 5/24/2016 at 10:32 AM, quaintirene said:

Apart from Bethenny and her Skinny Girl empire, and Tre Giudice and her cookery books, has any business venture by any ho'wife on any show made a dime?  I know for a fact the books all tanked.  Apparently BLK is selling somewhere to someone.  But it's not a household name.  Apart from that, what happened to Sonja's clothing line?  Gretchen Beaute, Alexis Couture, Cuffs by Lynne Curtin, Gretchen 'Designer' Handbags, Nene's clothing line, Whatsername Tre's cousin's cookbook and dessert line?  Is Ramona's Pinot successful?  Because Vickie's Vodka sure wasn't.

 

Why do all these ho's think their name on some product is gonna make $$$$$$$$?  It's only a matter of time before Dorinda's Martini Mix...

How can we ever forget she by sheree?

[neatoburrito]

Remember Luann in her "introduce me as Mrs De Lesseps", pre-cool-countess days? I wonder if she ever imagined that her alleged squirting would be a topic of discussion.

[hoodooznoodooz]

On May 23, 2016 at 1:04 PM, ryebread said:

I just watched the end of this episode and John's party.  This crowd is suh-leezy.

Luann dating Rey more than once told me a lot about her.  Patently obvious is that he is a sloppy, sad, confused drunk.  Though we've seen her penchant for that type of character before, what's not been so obvious is her own sleazy character. To me, anyway.  I'm side-eyeing her fiancé, now.  I hope he knows exactly what he put a ring on.

The scene in SushiRoxx with Luann, Sonja and Ramona was...embarrassing.  I'm not age shaming, but what age is too old to be screaming, cackling and loudly discussing your sex life and vagina in the middle of a restaurant?

Okay. We all know that we can't slut-shame here.  But does LuAnn give not one fuck that Victoria's friends and friends' parents may view this show? Once you become a parent, don't you have some responsibility to behave in a way that will not embarrass your daughters and sons?

Also, has Ramona completely chosen to forget that she was to one who allowed a man to sleep in a room adjacent to Heather and Carole?  She told H and C to go talk to LuAnn. L took the heat, and Ramona has absolutely no loyalty or gratitude for that mess?

Any psychiatrists, psychologists or therapists on? Please explain any theories you have with regard to Ramona.  Is she a sociopath? Does her crappy childhood justify this behavior?

And finally:  I read 80% of this thread but saw no mention of Rey telling Sonja that he had a girlfriend who was attractive, yet was still confronting L in this way at this party.  Was that bizarre?

[abbottrabbit]

47 minutes ago, Grey Goose said:

How can we ever forget she by sheree?

A fashion show with no fashion? How dreadful. 

[coops]

Sometimes LuAnn expects other people to take the responsibility for her own slutty behaviour- like when it was down to Carole not to barge into her room in case LuAnn had a man in there and her son watched it on tv and was ashamed. In those moments I've just wanted to slap LuAnn... I mean, come on, if you don't want to upset your son by sleeping around then don't sleep around. How is it Carole's fault? In this episode however Ramona crossed the line and brought up LuAnn's intimate sex life on camera... and LuAnn barely said anything!! The one time she has a right to get all haughty at someone verbally and openly humiliating and she ignores it yet before someone walks into her room and its the end of the world? Money can't buy ya common sense, clearly.

[Beden]

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Sometimes LuAnn expects other people to take the responsibility for her own slutty behaviour- like when it was down to Carole not to barge into her room in case LuAnn had a man in there and her son watched it on tv and was ashamed. In those moments I've just wanted to slap LuAnn

She's clearly a believer in the old adage that the best defense is a good offense.

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, coops said:

Sometimes LuAnn expects other people to take the responsibility for her own slutty behaviour- like when it was down to Carole not to barge into her room in case LuAnn had a man in there and her son watched it on tv and was ashamed. In those moments I've just wanted to slap LuAnn... I mean, come on, if you don't want to upset your son by sleeping around then don't sleep around. How is it Carole's fault? In this episode however Ramona crossed the line and brought up LuAnn's intimate sex life on camera... and LuAnn barely said anything!! The one time she has a right to get all haughty at someone verbally and openly humiliating and she ignores it yet before someone walks into her room and its the end of the world? Money can't buy ya common sense, clearly.

Why do these women care who LuAnn sleeps with?  There seems to have been season after season beginning with Ramona discussing Luann's sex life.  The only time I call it justified was when Luann was on the phone making up and excuse and even then why was it necessary for Carole to bring up who Luann or Sonja were entertaining?  Once it was determined that Ramona led the guy upstairs, why are they talking about LuAnn and who she was "making out" with?  Why is Ramona saying they bring these men home-how does she know and why is it anyone's business?  When Luann went after Carole for banging Luann's niece's ex, Carole got on her high horse and totally slut shamed Luann and continues to do so.

I don't blame Luann for not responding, to do so only gives the socially retarded Ramona a jumping off point. 

To me, it says more about the woman (women) who choose to publicly out someone for their sex life than the participants.  That is why Dorinda was so upset with Ramona for talking about what someone allegedly overheard and then electing to make it public. 

I don't find it odd at all that someone would not want their sex life made public for airtime for some hapless soul.  I don't know many kids who want to know about their parents' sex lives.

Edited May 25, 2016 by zoeysmom

[coops]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Why do these women care who LuAnn sleeps with?  There seems to have been season after season beginning with Ramona discussing Luann's sex life. 

Ramona is fixated on it because LuAnn does a lot of her 'dating' off screen and so she wants to 'out' her for sleeping with lots of men. Bethenny also joins in with this sometimes. Ramona pulls the same trick on Sonja with the 'you have a drinking problem' storyline she tries to dump on her every season. True, Sonja gets trashed at times but they all do yet there is some kind of unspoken pact where they try to label Sonja as the 'one with a drinking problem that is spiralling out if control.' Ramona even sometimes fake cries about it. It's hilarious.

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Why do these women care who LuAnn sleeps with?  There seems to have been season after season beginning with Ramona discussing Luann's sex life.  The only time I call it justified was when Luann was on the phone making up and excuse and even then why was it necessary for Carole to bring up who Luann or Sonja were entertaining?  Once it was determined that Ramona led the guy upstairs, why are they talking about LuAnn and who she was "making out" with?  Why is Ramona saying they bring these men home-how does she know and why is it anyone's business?  When Luann went after Carole for banging Luann's niece's ex, Carole got on her high horse and totally slut shamed Luann and continues to do so.

I don't blame Luann for not responding, to do so only gives the socially retarded Ramona a jumping off point. 

To me, it says more about the woman (women) who choose to publicly out someone for their sex life than the participants.  That is why Dorinda was so upset with Ramona for talking about what someone allegedly overheard and then electing to make it public. 

I don't find it odd at all that someone would not want their sex life made public for airtime for some hapless soul.  I don't know many kids who want to know about their parents' sex lives.

Seriously though, if Luann or any of the HWs, are concerned about their children hearing about their sex lives via the show, don't sleep with random guys while on a HW trip that is being filmed, even when the cameras leave or it will be brought up either by another HW or by production. After all, Luann hasn't had any problem talking about Sonja's sex life on the show, she is as guilty as Carole, Ramona, Heather, Kristen

Spoiler

and soon Bethenny

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[UsernameFatigue]

It seemed obvious to me that production had set up Rey suddenly showing up at John's party, and maybe even Ramona's involvement. Luann said they had dated last summer, now it is Christmas time and Rey told Luann he had texted her that evening. Why whould he do that out of the blue? How did he know about John's party and that Luann would be there?

I don't think John was out of line at all. He asked Rey to go outside with him and Rey refused. Then Ramona said that Rey didn't need to go outside. At one point Rey then wanted to leave with Ramona and she refused to go. She wasn't even invited to the party in the first place. I think Dorinda was OTT when she then got mad at John and left. At this point I would take John over Dorinda any day and hope he dumps her. He will never measure up to her saintly Richard and he deserves someone who doesn't treat him like shit on the bottom of her shoe.

Jules continues to irritate. I didn't get why the nanny she interviewed didn't measure up. She could pick out the kid's clothes, do a blow out, stand in line and was bilingual. Jules comment was something along the lines that she wasn't impressed with the Spanglish. Since Jules wanted a nanny who spoke Spanish what was the problem? She must be a nightmare to work for.

[biakbiak]

Jules comment was something along the lines that she wasn't impressed with the Spanglish. Since Jules wanted a nanny who spoke Spanish what was the problem? She must be a nightmare to work

The problem was that the nanny wasn't actually fluent in Spanish. 

[eurekagirl mOo]

The problem was (and is) Jules is a idiot.

[sasha206]

13 hours ago, eurekagirl mOo said:

The problem was (and is) Jules is a idiot.

Amen!  I keep hoping it is an act, but wow.

[ghoulina]

The Nanny spoke it better than Jules did. And, I imagine with the husband being fluent, the nanny could pick up some more pretty quickly. Spanish is generally one of the easiest languages to learn. Given all the other things she had going for, I'd have probably taken a chance with her.

[misschung]

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Okay. We all know that we can't slut-shame here.  But does LuAnn give not one fuck that Victoria's friends and friends' parents may view this show? Once you become a parent, don't you have some responsibility to behave in a way that will not embarrass your daughters and sons?

This is probably what bothers me the most.  And the fact that she couples this behavior with chiding Carole for dating a younger man because, and I'm paraphrasing, "younger men are okay to have fun with but not to bring home to the children."  Um, what?  So it's okay to sleep around and have it aired on national television but you can't have a real-life relationship that's acknowledged amongst your peers? 

Rey looks like he escaped from some sort of circus/side-show.  What was that?

[HunterHunted]

On 5/27/2016 at 6:24 PM, misschung said:

This is probably what bothers me the most.  And the fact that she couples this behavior with chiding Carole for dating a younger man because, and I'm paraphrasing, "younger men are okay to have fun with but not to bring home to the children."  Um, what?  So it's okay to sleep around and have it aired on national television but you can't have a real-life relationship that's acknowledged amongst your peers? 

Rey looks like he escaped from some sort of circus/side-show.  What was that?

That's because LuAnn's lying and excuse making are the worst when she's trying to cover up her own sexual escapades. Tomas the Johnny Depp pirate became her Italian friends. I love how LuAnn had forgotten that the show had previously subtitled multiple conversations in French. Or how she said that she and Rey weren't lovers. Or how she was convinced that Heather was trying to catch her banging her hookup in the T&C. Her brain is the slowest when there is dick involved. Half of LuAnn's reasons for why Carole should stay away from Adam really made Adam seem shady as hell, but at no point did LuAnn say "I don't think either you or my niece should be with him." In hindsight, it makes me feel like her ultimate issue with Carole and Adam is that Adam went for Carole and not her.

The other thing you have to realize is that LuAnn has this internalized misogyny. In her head, it's ok for older men to date younger women, but never ok for an older woman to date a younger man.  Perhaps if LuAnn had been more successful on her own before she had met the Count, she might not feel this way. For example Cynthia Bailey seems to have very few issues supporting her deadbeat husband, though she should, because she's always been self sufficient even when she was with Leon, Russell Simmons, and Jayson Williams.

[jinjer]

On May 22, 2016 at 5:47 PM, WireWrap said:

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On May 22, 2016 at 5:06 PM, sasha206 said:

It's not even the first time Sonja has done something similar to Skinny Girl.  See logo.  Granted this was a no-go, but it looks like a copy cat silhouette.

 

On May 22, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Satchels of gold said:

That is clearly totally different. Can't you see the sexy j? /sarcasm font/

ITA that this isn't such a sexy J

Edited May 29, 2016 by jinjer

[misschung]

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 In hindsight, it makes me feel like her ultimate issue with Carole and Adam is that Adam went for Carole and not her.

Yes. After all, "she wants to be Nicole!"

[Silo]

I think  it's funny that they pegged Sonja as a narcissist, when it's clear that they are all Narcissists. Like classic textbook Narcissists.

Bethenny is SO jealous of younger looking women. First the caviar waitress and there was another person, I forget who, in an earlier episode.

They all condemn Luanne for her promiscuous behavior because they are half jealous / half disgusted by how many guys she sleeps with.

I've always wondered what a Manhattan bimbo would look like, because everyone in that part of New York seems not only educated but also sharp. Enter Jules. Now I know. Jules is the New York version of Lynn. I knew Sonya seems slow on the uptake, but I can never tell if she's just dumb and/or has a mental health issue.

[MyMaui]

On 5/18/2016 at 10:50 PM, njbchlover said:

Bethenny went for Sonja's jugular during that conversation.  The whole "name one distributor" comments as you mentioned, and then, the other comment about "the stores where your clothing line is" - that was just brutal and slaying.  No wonder Sonja started crying.  She was caught totally off guard, because in Sonja's deluded brain, she really didn't think she had done anything to offend or upset the "girl" word owner.

And, to me, what was the worse thing was that Bethenny ripped into Sonja in front of the Skinnygirl employees.  That was wrong, rude and unforgiveable.  Bethnny said that apartment office had a conference room and a bedroom - why not have that very harsh and personal conversation away from her employees - was this a Bethenny power play?  "See, girls, see how powerful I am - I can make a grown woman cry"...it was pathetic on Bethenny's part.   

That's what she does.  She likes to look superior at all costs. She has to have a crowd around her when she does this stuff.   Honestly I wish these women did not cry in front of Bethenny.  It just feeds into her monster ego and gives her the green light to keep being the bitch that she is.  Sonja should have pushed back about her brand and told Bethenny to focus on her own brand if she is that worried.

I just don't get why these women seems to fold with her.  Every season she is on, it's her that is the reason for the chaos and drama. The cast should have just said enough and start going for her the same way she did to everyone.  What would happen?  Andy would fire everyone except Bethenny?

[Sun-Bun]

On 7/23/2022 at 8:28 AM, MyMaui said:

I just don't get why these women seems to fold with her.  Every season she is on, it's her that is the reason for the chaos and drama. The cast should have just said enough and start going for her the same way she did to everyone.  What would happen?  Andy would fire everyone except Bethenny?

You hit the nail on the head as to why I don’t care if I *ever* see Bethenny on any RH show ever again: while I’ve always enjoyed her and her quick wit, she also sucks up all the attention in the room with either her angry screeching, melodramatic crying fits, or sarcastic wisecracks. The other RH’s desperately play up to her and desperately try to curry her favor because she’s the rich network “star” and Andy’s little darling.
It gets gross watching how they simper up to her, although I always respected how LuAnne, Ramona, and even Carole all refused to back down to Bethenny at her loudest/meanest.

Speaking of mean, I was rewatching a few RHONY seasons and Bethenny said something on one episode that struck me with its casual cruelty: the cast was in Miami on vacay and they all went to some art gallery where an exhibiting artist gave all the gals art pieces as presents. He gave Tinsley the coolest one of the art pieces and Bethenny was bitching about it to one of the other gals as they left, saying off-camera, “Must be nice to get the BEST present. Oh well, she doesn’t have a daughter and I do, so that’s MY present.”

Just felt icky and unnecessary to make such a petty comment, especially in light of the fact that Tinsley desperately wants to be a mother herself.
Or how about the time she basically told Erika Jane to her face that her music video sucked. Or her numerous little slights at Jules and Kristen.

But that’s Bethenny for you.