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I´d written Carole off but she got many points from me for fostering the kittens. Cats are the best, always, that´s one of my mottos in life.

The only thing is, the poinsettas should've been removed (I noticed them on the floor around the Christmas tree).  They are mildly toxic to cats and dogs.  I err on the side of caution and don't get them at Christmas time because of my cats. I'm kind of surprised that the animal rescue lady didn't give the apartment the once over to make sure things appeared safe for the kitty.  Speaking of Carol's pronunciation of the word kitten, I'm from the South and the only person I've heard pronounce it like her was a transplant from up North.  It's not a slam on an entire group of people.  I just thought it was a northern thing, just like we have distinct southern words.  I admit though, her continued pronunciation of it was driving me nuts!   It's like some people here in the South who can't figure out how to use the words eat/ate, and seen/saw correctly in a sentence!  Oh well, live and let live, I say!

Ramona sure is a blabber mouth this season.  LuAnn needs to be very discreet, especially living at Sonja's house.  She'll run and tell Ramona everything that goes on in LuAnn's bedroom.   Some of them put on a good act pretending to be classy, but their drunken behavior goes beyond the pale.

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22 hours ago, beesknees said:

Enough of my "kitten", er, ki-en rant!~ Baby and lil' ki-en were so damned darling I could not stand it.  Adam was right - they should adopt the kitty not just be foster parents!  And they probably will be keeping the cat because giving her back to where ever they got it, well, Baby will have NONE of that! (and you know no one puts Baby in the corner!)

Bonus points for brilliantly incorporating Patrick Swayze into your post . 10/10. 

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Bethanny saying that she was completely insulted and she didn't want anything to do with Sonja was a little harsh. Sonja was definitely nervous and trying hard to be light and airy, but I also don't think she really thought that anything was going to be that big of a deal. Manufactored for the show? I don't think so, someone had to put real money into the Tipsy Girl thing so I don't think it's a hoax. It would be better if she just called the whole thing "Tipsy" like Ramona implied. Tipsy is cute. Tipsy Girl is a little pedophilic. But I don't like the name SkinnyGirl either. What do I know though. I hate business, I think the world would be better without it. It was nice of Bethanny to get her a tissue. She's been in a lot of counseling.

Sonja seemed genuinely upset. But Sonja will never be back where she was. Because where she was before was with the Morgan dude and that is long over. 

I love Jules husband. He seems so nice. 

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2 hours ago, Umbelina said:

You can still find the soft core porn video or screen shots on line.  Her boobs WERE huge, real, and horribly saggy at a young age.  When you have a "lift" they always put in implants, but I don't think hers added any volume, because seriously, hers were hanging huge.

Who?  Who was in porn?  Bethenny?

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20 minutes ago, Sai said:

Who?  Who was in porn?  Bethenny?

yep, her two pre surgery sloppy sacks are in some movie. Not to boob shame but its really a head scratcher that with all the boobs to choose from a director would bare hers in their movie.

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19 hours ago, archer1267 said:

Great find, Alonzo!

I like the Slideshare site that referred to him as a philanthropist and singled out such achievements as raising $20K for autism research and $10K for Navesink Country Club (NJ). I work in fundraising and don't want to slight his efforts (or anyone else's), but "philanthropist" is generally a title that others give to you, not one you declare for yourself. Reading through the site and seeing the PR work he does, he reminded me of LeeAnne from RHOD - someone who fancies themselves as charity world insider, but is involved with the peripheral work and doesn't have the deep pockets that s/he would like others to believe. 

Considering his last Tweet before the most recent episode was 19 months ago, I wonder how many of his 133 followers signed up after Wednesday night's airing. I think it's pretty funny (and fitting) that there are mentions of him on a site called "Guest of a Guest."

Navesink Country Club is practically in my backyard....believe me, they do not need anyone raising $10,000.00 for them....some of the wealthiest families in Monmouth County are members.

IIRC, they actually turned down Geraldo Rivera's application for membership (when he lived here) because he was "too controversial".  

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29 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

yep, her two pre surgery sloppy sacks are in some movie. Not to boob shame but its really a head scratcher that with all the boobs to choose from a director would bare hers in their movie.

Get outta here!!!  I never knew this.  Is it really porn?

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4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

It would be more believable if she hadn't fudged, dodged, made shit up about her breast implants.  Originally they just magically appeared in her bikini top.  Then it was  a lift, then a reduction, then it was a revision to correct some problem.  Personally, I think the rudest thing in the world to do is ask someone if they have had work done but it seems to be okay to ask on RH franchises.  No one has had the courage to tell Andy-"none of your effing business, you rude little troll."  It didn't stop Bethenny, Kristen and some of the others from discussing Ramona's boob job last year.  Rude people.  Maybe this year they will move up to Ramona's surgically enhanced face.  

Yes!  None of your 'f'ing business Andy. 

On another note, and I'm not a cosmetic surgery expert, I just have doubts about how Beth's jawline changed so much because of botox injections.

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1 minute ago, breezy424 said:

Yes!  None of your 'f'ing business Andy. 

On another note, and I'm not a cosmetic surgery expert, I just have doubts about how Beth's jawline changed so much because of botox injections.

She said that she was a tooth-grinder and refused to get a retainer to stop the habit. Her masseter muscle became overly large from this continual grinding. She finally agreed to wear a retainer which prevented her from grinding her teeth and increasing the size of that muscle. Eventually she lost the muscle mass. That makes sense to me.

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4 minutes ago, HumblePi said:

She said that she was a tooth-grinder and refused to get a retainer to stop the habit. Her masseter muscle became overly large from this continual grinding. She finally agreed to wear a retainer which prevented her from grinding her teeth and increasing the size of that muscle. Eventually she lost the muscle mass. That makes sense to me.

Yeah. I know what she said but I have a hard time with how much her jaw line changed.  And I have a hard time accepting that her prominent jaw (the back by her ears) had to do with teeth grinding or muscle mass.  It doesn't make sense to me.

Just my opinion.  I'm not saying that I'm totally right but I do question it.  BTW, I'm religious about wearing my night guard.  I can't go to sleep if I don't have mine in.  Seriously.  I think fillers or something else was involved. 

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New random thoughts.

Carole might have problems talking with her weird mouth and jaw. She eats really weird. Maybe she has a hard time pronouncing words. The kitten was just to seem caring and animal earth loving to Adam.

Adam is very feminine. He seems nice though. He and Carole have a good vibe.

It's everyone's fault for making it the John show. It's all they talk about. 

YouTube of vintage Bethanny!

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10 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Skinny Cow has had snack packs of "diet" chocolate forever.  Is Bethanny's new SkinyGirl chocolates copying them or a chater brand?  Or is it okay because she's a girl and they're a cow?

Sorry about the "kih-in" rant - it was me who started it and I have tried the "Skinny Cow" (not Skinny Girl) chocolates.  I loved them!  Kind of expensive but the kind I tried were chocolate wafers with caramel inside.  Very good and low-cal.

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23 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Yes!  None of your 'f'ing business Andy. 

On another note, and I'm not a cosmetic surgery expert, I just have doubts about how Beth's jawline changed so much because of botox injections.

Let her have it.  Skinny girl has always had a pretty face -it was the jawline.  She was always pretty.  Even the photos with Kyle-very cute.  She should not have to share everything and she should back off outing everyone.

21 minutes ago, HumblePi said:

She said that she was a tooth-grinder and refused to get a retainer to stop the habit. Her masseter muscle became overly large from this continual grinding. She finally agreed to wear a retainer which prevented her from grinding her teeth and increasing the size of that muscle. Eventually she lost the muscle mass. That makes sense to me.

Think about women who think it is a cure and don't have the same success.  More alarming is Ramona saying she didn't have a facelift.  Yeah, you did.

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22 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

New random thoughts.

Carole might have problems talking with her weird mouth and jaw. She eats really weird. Maybe she has a hard time pronouncing words. The kitten was just to seem caring and animal earth loving to Adam.

Adam is very feminine. He seems nice though. He and Carole have a good vibe.

It's everyone's fault for making it the John show. It's all they talk about. 

YouTube of vintage Bethanny!

I guess Beth has been grinding her teeth for decades.  Or so it seems.  It's a miracle. 

Carole's mouth and jaw doesn't bother me.  Adam doesn't either.  I'm not attracted to him but each their own.

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I can't believe I'm going to say this - Dorinda is becoming my favorite current NY housewife.  Now that my girl Heather is out of her line of fire, I am thoroughly enjoying her. 

I'm re-watching the last five minutes of the episode and I am dying.  After God knows how long they've been on the sidewalk arguing, after Ramona spazzing out and almost slapping Dorinda all over the face, after Dorinda gives John the little whack/shove with her clutch purse, after she's told Rey he made an ass out of himself and drove Luann away - Dorinda suddenly looks at Rey - "You - Get the fuck away - who are you?  Who are you?  Get out of here (shooing motion with hand) you piece of shit, get out of here.  Out.of.here.  Take your ass out I'll call the police." 

Now Dorinda wants to know who he is?  What the fuck?  Where did these italics come from.  This must be how Dorinda felt.

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Two more thoughts:

Slut-shaming Luann isn't nice, and I don't condone it, but isn't she just as bad with her BS about uptight Bethenny needing to get laid?  I hate that, and it's the type of thing typically said by a POS man.  I mean seriously Luann, we saw what happened with your need to "get laid" last summer.  Try a vibrator.  It doesn't get wasted and come slobbering for a kiss when you're through with it.  "Fuck you, shut up Luann, I love you, can I get a kiss" - nope, not gonna go through that with your vibrator.

When John was making his toast and pointing out the stain on Dorinda's bosom, John's kind of leering and doing the bouncing eyebrows.  He says, "I have a solution for that problem - ".  I actually thought he was going to say the solution was his mouth.  I wouldn't have been a bit surprised.  But it was a perfect segue into his business.  Good one, John.

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Ramona was incredulous that LuAnn would casually say she squirts, "It's like she's proud of it!" Well, why shouldn't she be? Obviously, she was really enjoying herself instead of just being and spreading misery like some people.

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Yeah. I know what she said but I have a hard time with how much her jaw line changed.  And I have a hard time accepting that her prominent jaw (the back by her ears) had to do with teeth grinding or muscle mass.  It doesn't make sense to me.

Just my opinion.  I'm not saying that I'm totally right but I do question it.  BTW, I'm religious about wearing my night guard.  I can't go to sleep if I don't have mine in.  Seriously.  I think fillers or something else was involved. 

- Botox in that area makes a very big difference:

http://rebeccafitzgeraldmd.com/botox-jaw-reduction-los-angeles

 

- Also, fillers are to ADD volume, not reduce ;-)

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15 hours ago, ChitChat said:

The only thing is, the poinsettas should've been removed (I noticed them on the floor around the Christmas tree).  They are mildly toxic to cats and dogs.  I err on the side of caution and don't get them at Christmas time because of my cats. I'm kind of surprised that the animal rescue lady didn't give the apartment the once over to make sure things appeared safe for the kitty.  Speaking of Carol's pronunciation of the word kitten, I'm from the South and the only person I've heard pronounce it like her was a transplant from up North.  It's not a slam on an entire group of people.  I just thought it was a northern thing, just like we have distinct southern words.  I admit though, her continued pronunciation of it was driving me nuts!   It's like some people here in the South who can't figure out how to use the words eat/ate, and seen/saw correctly in a sentence!  Oh well, live and let live, I say!

 

Northerners have kih-ens, Southerners have 'ya'll', Mid-West  has 'yah' and West Coast has 'uh-mayyy-zing'.  But that's what makes us 'Murica.

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16 hours ago, Umbelina said:

You can still find the soft core porn video or screen shots on line.  Her boobs WERE huge, real, and horribly saggy at a young age.  When you have a "lift" they always put in implants, but I don't think hers added any volume, because seriously, hers were hanging huge.

 Dunno what they did but her boobs looked like hard bullet or baseball looking things in I can't remember which season. The one in which we saw her in Jill's Hamptons pool and, yikes, they looked awful. Trainwreck-can't-look-away awful.

Imho she has no room to criticize others. Though her face does look better.

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12 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

I can't believe I'm going to say this - Dorinda is becoming my favorite current NY housewife.  Now that my girl Heather is out of her line of fire, I am thoroughly enjoying her. 

I'm re-watching the last five minutes of the episode and I am dying.  After God knows how long they've been on the sidewalk arguing, after Ramona spazzing out and almost slapping Dorinda all over the face, after Dorinda gives John the little whack/shove with her clutch purse, after she's told Rey he made an ass out of himself and drove Luann away - Dorinda suddenly looks at Rey - "You - Get the fuck away - who are you?  Who are you?  Get out of here (shooing motion with hand) you piece of shit, get out of here.  Out.of.here.  Take your ass out I'll call the police." 

Now Dorinda wants to know who he is?  What the fuck?  Where did these italics come from.  This must be how Dorinda felt.

That was my favorite part of the episode, Dorinda was like a UFC fighter on steroids. Mr. Rey-Maybe-Gay man wouldn't dare mess with that and tucked in his tail and ran. Don't mess with the angry blonde!

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I honestly don't think of "squirting" as being something negative.  Apparently it's pretty rare for visible female ejaculation, but the idea of it seems pretty cool to me.  None of Luann's lovers would ever ask if she was faking orgasm.  Or does it not happen every time?  I agree Ramona was a bitch to say that, but I don't see why Luann would be ashamed of that.

As far as her sleeping around fairly indiscriminately?  We've always known that as well.  It never bothered me a bit, you go girl!  (Well, but it is bad form to have sex with married men, or your friend's boyfriend's.)  What annoyed me about Luann was that ridiculous proper and disapproving Countess Act that she was insisting on while everyone knew she had an open marriage, and multiple sex partners, but also, getting so drunk that she was grabbing men's private parts in public, men she didn't know.

I don't want pathetic Luann though.  I liked Luann of last year, shed of most of the lies, being herself, being cool, not uncool. 

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18 hours ago, Almost 3000 said:

yep, her two pre surgery sloppy sacks are in some movie. Not to boob shame but its really a head scratcher that with all the boobs to choose from a director would bare hers in their movie.

So, just out of curiosity, where did you see the shots of her boobs? You have me intrigued. She couldn't have been more than 22 or so in that movie, which seems pretty young for her boobs to be so "saggy" or what-have-you?

That movie is on her imdb page.

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I didnt get to watch the episode Wednesday. Just finished watching and all I can say is wow. Really angry Ramona is wicked funny to watch. This the second or third time she has shown up to where she is not invited; that's ballsy. That girls got big ones. 

Louanns stalker was pretty creepy, but why was Ramona and Sonja talking to him? Ramona looked like she was trying to pick him up.

Drunk Dorinda annoys the hell out of me. I don't blame her for being angry at Ramona but Dorindas voice and the way she talks just bugs.

Jesus that Ramona is a pill

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9 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

So, just out of curiosity, where did you see the shots of her boobs? You have me intrigued. She couldn't have been more than 22 or so in that movie, which seems pretty young for her boobs to be so "saggy" or what-have-you?

That movie is on her imdb page.

Here are some before and after of her boob job:  http://celeblens.com/bethenny-frankel-plastic-surgery-before-and-after-photos/

If you Google Bethenny Frankel topless there are plenty of photos.  Not sure what the policy is here for posting photos.   

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2 hours ago, Umbelina said:

I honestly don't think of "squirting" as being something negative.  Apparently it's pretty rare for visible female ejaculation, but the idea of it seems pretty cool to me.  None of Luann's lovers would ever ask if she was faking orgasm.  Or does it not happen every time?  I agree Ramona was a bitch to say that, but I don't see why Luann would be ashamed of that.

As far as her sleeping around fairly indiscriminately?  We've always known that as well.  It never bothered me a bit, you go girl!  (Well, but it is bad form to have sex with married men, or your friend's boyfriend's.)  What annoyed me about Luann was that ridiculous proper and disapproving Countess Act that she was insisting on while everyone knew she had an open marriage, and multiple sex partners, but also, getting so drunk that she was grabbing men's private parts in public, men she didn't know.

I don't want pathetic Luann though.  I liked Luann of last year, shed of most of the lies, being herself, being cool, not uncool. 

Here is the story (sort of) from the wedding reception.  Am I the only one who thought maybe the bigger story was the Count allegedly throwing Luann to the ground?    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2008/08/luann_de_lesseps_gets_real_tra.html  Wise move to no comment a story without named stories.

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27 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Here are some before and after of her boob job:  http://celeblens.com/bethenny-frankel-plastic-surgery-before-and-after-photos/

If you Google Bethenny Frankel topless there are plenty of photos.  Not sure what the policy is here for posting photos.   

Ooh. Ouch! And I'll throw in a, Yikes! But, thanks, I think.

Yep, can't-look-away-trainwreck bad.

I think the posting-nude/ish-photos policy is to caution posters/lurkers that the link contains an image that is Not Safe for Work (NSFW). So, no surprises. 

But it's difficult to prepare anyone for that Bethy "before" shot. Didn't she have a mirror?

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18 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Yeah. I know what she said but I have a hard time with how much her jaw line changed.  And I have a hard time accepting that her prominent jaw (the back by her ears) had to do with teeth grinding or muscle mass.  It doesn't make sense to me.

Just my opinion.  I'm not saying that I'm totally right but I do question it.  BTW, I'm religious about wearing my night guard.  I can't go to sleep if I don't have mine in.  Seriously.  I think fillers or something else was involved. 

Tooth grinding, or Bruxism causes those muscles to become overly exercised and they become large just like any muscle will that's exercised.  These are just a few of the illustrations of people that had developed those large masseter muscles due to excessive teeth grinding. These people and Bethenny have all had Botox injections and possible a mouth guard also. Bethenny had a lot of emotional stress while growing up so it's no surprise she was a night-time tooth-grinder.

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46 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

So, just out of curiosity, where did you see the shots of her boobs? You have me intrigued. She couldn't have been more than 22 or so in that movie, which seems pretty young for her boobs to be so "saggy" or what-have-you?

That movie is on her imdb page.

I must have missed it on her imdb page but I saw a pix years ago when a poster on TWoP linked it. I'm assuming from that movie but maybe from another place. She was sunbathing on a pool/deck chair. Really not that scandalize but it was before she had any work done.

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Re: squirting, good or bad?

Maybe I'm just an old fuddy-duddy prude but I think that someone sharing that info, about a friend or a fuck, with anyone else is really shitty.

That's an incredibly personal, imho, revelation to drop into a conversation. 

Did the screwer "out" LuLu or did LuLu?

Bad bad taste, mho.

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Well it does not necessarily taste bad if she squirts. I hear pineapple juice is good for that......err.....wait....that's just what I hear....I mean I don't really know....err....that Bethenny is really a bitch right?

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2 hours ago, NewDigs said:

Re: squirting, good or bad?

Maybe I'm just an old fuddy-duddy prude but I think that someone sharing that info, about a friend or a fuck, with anyone else is really shitty.

That's an incredibly personal, imho, revelation to drop into a conversation. 

Did the screwer "out" LuLu or did LuLu?

Bad bad taste, mho.

Ramona claims it was Harry Dubin.  I am curious why Harry is hanging out with Ramona.  Isn't three RH enough or is he going for a fourth to break the record?

No excuse for Ramona's behavior.

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Wow, Carole seems desperate to keep Adam in her grasp by giving up a solo project to do a book with him that seems to be about their oh-so-not-unusual pairing of vegetarian vs. meat lover.  I'm wondering if she funded the documentary he was working on.  And then she wanted him to post what seemed to be a tender spontaneous moment with the "Carole" thing spelled out in his meal on Instagram? I'm not saying he doesn't care for her, but she does seem to be very desperate to keep him interested and alert the world that he's hers. 

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5 hours ago, tinaw said:

Louanns stalker was pretty creepy, but why was Ramona and Sonja talking to him? Ramona looked like she was trying to pick him up.

As soon as Ramona heard that LuAnn had dated Rey, she wanted to talk to him.  Her actual words were something like "Oh good, he'll have dirt on LuAnn."  She didn't seem to mind that he was leaning into her, mouth wide open, belching god only knows what manner of fumes.  Woman is wack.

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I keep wondering if she is so addicted to sex because she is somehow having lots more fun with it?  Now I'm thinking of googling to find out if any studies have been done on intensity or frequency of orgasms for squirters vs non squirters?

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a34652/sex-talk-realness-squirting/

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How did it feel, physically speaking?

Woman A: Intense. It was a very intense experience.

Woman B: That's difficult — describing sexual feelings in words is so hard! I think my labia got really full and big, like I was about to give birth or something. And the pressure of them being so swollen felt really intense and then I felt hot liquid all over me in bursts.

Woman C: It felt kind of like urinating, but not similar enough that I could confuse the two. It felt powerful like a male orgasm, with very strong and clear spasms of my abdominal and pelvic muscles.

Woman D: It was a strange feeling; quite different from the orgasms I was used to. It was more of a sublime, gradually intensifying feeling that spread through my body than it was an "unbearably good" sensation. So I only vaguely felt myself ejaculate. The sound of it hitting the bed is what made me aware of what happened.

Woman E: Like ... a rush or a surge. I wish I had a better explanation for the sensation.

And how did you feel about it afterward, emotionally?

Woman A: Surprised that my body was capable of that. Impressed.

Woman B: We weren't sure whether it was urine or not the first time, but it didn't smell and I had peed just before sex so we didn't think I could have. We were excited because it's such a mythical thing that we were a bit like, "Woah, did that just happen?" My girlfriend loved it because she felt that it was a sign that she made me feel really good!

Woman C: It was very fulfilling. It was super-hot to have something akin to a male orgasm with more obvious results. It was so exciting to feel and see a product of my orgasm, instead of some mysterious internal process.

Woman D: As soon as it happened I stiffened, unsure of what to think and unable to measure my boyfriend's reaction. I was freaked out that I might have peed, and I remember feeling quite shocked and self-conscious for weeks afterward, particularly because it was so unexpected and out of my control. I tried to avoid doing it from then on, though in the last few months I've become more relaxed.

Woman E: Excited! I'd heard about it and seen it in porn, but never done it.

Do you squirt every time you have sex, or is it something that only happens sometimes now?

Woman A: It's only happened a handful of times, with one partner who knew how and where to stimulate me in order for it to happen.

Woman B: It happens about 50 percent of the time now. Most of the time when I squirt, I have been having sex for ages so I kind of relax after it and don't bother about the orgasm. It doesn't feel like I need to orgasm if I squirted loads.

Woman C: I ejaculate at least a little bit every time I have a clitoral orgasm, but never when I orgasm from penetration.

Woman D: It only happens occasionally. I'd say that it would coincide [with orgasm] more often than not.

Woman E: Only when coming with penetration. Clitoral stimulation alone doesn't do it. Usually I'll ejaculate a few times (and it feels really great) before I have an orgasm.

 

Much more at the link, and also, I admit, interesting.  If Luann squirts every time, maybe that's why she's very capable of "love the one you're with."  In a way, more like a teenage boy's sex drive than your average menopausal woman?

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12 hours ago, Trooper York said:

Well it does not necessarily taste bad if she squirts. I hear pineapple juice is good for that......err.....wait....that's just what I hear....I mean I don't really know....err....that Bethenny is really a bitch right?

 

Heh, I was on the West Coast last year when an extensive feature on the magic powers of pineapple juice appeared in print and the healthy-eats stores (Whole Foods, Sprouts etc) couldn't keep the stuff in stock. An MD interviewed in the same piece said there was no proof pineapple juice actually worked that way but, no matter, women everywhere were aroused, um, metaphorically speaking :-O. 

 

Hey! Maybe this will be the impetus for Beth's newest product:

skinnygirl AM pineapple tonic

start your morning off right for the sweet splash at night

(This ^^ has, of course, been submitted to the USPTO for both word and design mark protection -- boo yea, the design mark is sumpin' else -- because you can't be too careful when dealing with these broads.)

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11 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

She didn't seem to mind that he was leaning into her, mouth wide open, belching god only knows what manner of fumes.  Woman is wack.

I know right. So gross.

I wouldn't want anything to do with Ramona. She is just crazy. Like batshit

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I'm REALLY over Carole's contrived quirk. I feel I'm not alone here. From dropping the 't' in kitten...actually the whole 'what ever is this strange, rare and mythical creature that has appeared in my eccentric writerly digs?' schtick. Carole, like LuAnn has visible desperation wafting from her corpus this season,  like Pigpen in Charlie Brown. And her slouching on the couch with her laptop while her vegan chef hottie is in the kitchen. And her humorous quips about processed food. So Odd Couple!  Could there be a storyline here? ! I'm really over injections of puppies and kittens in the Howives franchises. Don't insult the audience, we're here for the bitchery. This is not Mother's Day. 

I'm solidly with Beth too. While she probably didn't need to squash Sonja like a bug, I felt this was symbolic for Beth. She has worked hard. Her business is all she has (apart from invisible daughter) and I bet she was totally across every aspect of Sonja's shady prosecco, its true creators, shell companies and whatever else behind the scenes. Sonja just wants to get back to where she was. Without getting out of bed before 11. Without breaking a sweat (god forbid). Sonja is in denial about the fact that lightning doesn't strike twice. She's 50 plus and rich old guys don't go for that. Beth sent a clear warning to all wannabe pretenders and rightfully so. You do NOT mess with a person's livelihood. I could see how Beth, in that exchange with/annihilation of Sonja, had her 'business' face on. She could feel compassion on a personal level, but this, dear Sonja, was business. You can't be smart and stupid either. Forcing her to do the walk of shame, babbling about pocketbooks was a reality check Sonja needs to play back.

And Jules. Jules has read a couple of those nanny expose books that appear semi regularly. Of the lifestyles of the rich and shameless ilk. This is what she's aspiring to. Oi vey Jules! You're such an eccentric cool cat! Sample sale lines, blow outs and bilingual babies! They run you personally so ragged you don't have time for a bath even. Or to mention your Jewish Asian heritage or your period this episode, which is either a blessing or a harbinger of what's to come: 1 or the other, motherhood or background. And Jules was 'look at me, I'm eating!' in this episode also. I sense an agenda behind that scene. 

And Rey. What an insight into the Countess after dark he was! That person was pathologically monstrous. How drooling fall down drunk does LuAnn get? Ramona only stood up for him because she saw the percentage in attacking John. The leaning over/into and the voice! Prior to that, I was obsessed by John's doppelganger with the front tuft combover hanging about in the foreground. Maybe he and Rey were out on the prowl together. 

That was definitely the best episode this season. Across all of the franchises. Bethenny bloc's absence allowed the rest of the cast to show us exactly what they're capable of. 

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55 minutes ago, queenjen said:

I'm solidly with Beth too. While she probably didn't need to squash Sonja like a bug, I felt this was symbolic for Beth. She has worked hard. Her business is all she has

And that is my problem with Bethenny, and why I detest her.  She didn't have to act that way.  She could have gone out to lunch with Sonja and said that she felt betrayed by Sonja, because she tried to help her and felt that Sonja stabbed her in the back.  But the dramatics and shit were unnecessary.  I really doubt that Bethenny's business is going to suffer because of this, and if it did it says more about Bethenny's business than anything Sonja is selling.  There is a way to install a boundary without slitting someone's throat.  If Bethenny doesn't know how to do that, at her age then I wouldn't want to be in the same room with her.  Also, if her business is all she has, she really should re-evaluate her life.  

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Here's the thing. Sonja is a hapless sap. She can be quite annoying. But Bethenny is just cruel. That is why she is alone. That is why her child will ultimately abandon her. They will repeat the dynamic of Bethenny and her own mother. The only way to prevent that is to change. Try to be kind. Forgiving. Compassionate.

Do you think Bethenny could ever find it in her heart to do that? I sure as hell don't think that is ever going to happen.

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Bethenny gets on my nerves big time as she has become a caricature of herself I feel.  But I do understand her anger about one of my pet peeves about these Housewives.  They slap their name on anything and promote it.  Clearly, these idiots didn't put the effort into developing a business that Beth did.  How many Housewives businesses suddenly crop up with none of them appearing to have spent any time really working on it?  On her radio show, Beth said that that's the thing that bothers her most about this -- the sham businesses that they put no blood, sweat and tears in.

And I think part of the reason Beth essentially destroyed Sonja is that she can't answer a direct question about her business.  So it's even more obvious that the brand is really a cheater brand.  Meanwhile, Sonja just "wants to put her daughter through school."  Wouldn't her ex pay for that?  And why can't she sell that dated townhouse of hers, get something small and manageable and live well off the proceeds?

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