Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[oakville]

3 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Joe Scarborough:  The sage of The District of Columbia, Alabama, Florida, New York and Cape Cod or Nantucket.  

Don't forget Maine !. Mika & Joe spent last summer in Maine.

I remember that Joe predicted that Susan Collins would be defeated in the Senate race based on his discussions with Maine insiders at the local ice cream store. Mika ended up taking the entire barrel of ice cream with her home to share with her daughter.

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Don't forget Maine !. Mika & Joe spent last summer in Maine.

I remember that Joe predicted that Susan Collins would be defeated in the Senate race based on his discussions with Maine insiders at the local ice cream store. Mika ended up taking the entire barrel of ice cream with her home to share with her daughter.

Let's don't forget the South of France!

[oakville]

10 hours ago, Kemper said:

Joe is afraid of Mrs. Domenech.  

 

 

[nittany cougar]

They showed a clip of Nancy Pelosi referring to Sen. Ron Johnson as "Don Johnson."  They think she did it in order to throw shade at Sen. Johnson.  But, since it's SO hilarious, they opened the show with the "Miami Vice" theme.  Joe laughed about the hilarious pop culture reference.

Joe says that the Capitol police have warned of extremist threats.

Joe continues to refer to Crockett and Tubbs and how they would respond at the Capitol.  Joe said we have to keep the fences up to defend the Capitol.  He thinks Ron Johnson and Rand Paul are ignoring the dangers.

Halperin asked Joe if he ever wore a peach suit like Don Johnson.  Joe claimed that he never wore peach suits.  Let's get real, Joe wishes he could hold Don Johnson's jock.

Hey Joe, the Miami Vice references are dated and are not cool anymore.  I'm in my late 40's and I have vague memories of watching Miami Vice at age 12.  My point is that any MSNBC viewer under about 45 has no clue what Joe is talking about.  That means that it's not cool.

Mika ranted at Mitchell McConnell for saying that he would support Trump if he ran again.  She used the cry voice.  Mika seems very emotional. 

Edited February 26, 2021 by nittany cougar

[freddi]

4 minutes ago, nittany cougar said:

They showed a clip of Nancy Pelosi referring to Sen. Ron Johnson as "Don Johnson."  They think she did it in order to throw shade at Sen. Johnson.  But, since it's SO hilarious, they opened the show with the "Miami Vice" theme.  Joe laughed about the hilarious pop culture reference. [snip]

Hey Joe, the Miami Vice references are dated and are not cool anymore.  I'm in my late 40,'s and I have vague memories of watching Miami Vice at age 11. My point is that any MSNBC viewer under about 45 has no clue what Joe is talking about.  That means that it's not cool.

Mika ranted at Mitchell McConnell for saying that he would support Trump if he ran again.  Mika seems very emotional. 

Thank you for explaining this, and I am over 45!  I thought there was some new ominous news and that the new opening was a dark “breaking news” image.  Very confusing.  

And Mika is squeaking a series of “You SAID” and “You SAID” over and over.  Guess it’s her turn to emote.

[suomi]

Today's show is the last one in this month and therefore I won't hear Mika say Febairy again while announcing the date until next year. 

[chick binewski]

On 2/23/2021 at 7:57 PM, Mldyold said:

Did I hear right, Joe said Mika is in the south of France.  Is this code for rejuvenation?

Thank you - it wasn't just me. I know there's stuff going on in the world but I may have spent most of my week scratching my head over that comment.

I'm mildly obsessed with this show and the dynamic between the anchors.

[suomi]

Self-mutilization.

(Self-mutilation).

[Liberty]

2 hours ago, nittany cougar said:

 

Halperin asked Joe if he ever wore a peach suit like Don Johnson.  

 

I wasn't watching today, was Mark Halperin on?

[suomi]

On 2/23/2021 at 5:57 PM, Mldyold said:

Did I hear right, Joe said Mika is in the south of France.  Is this code for rejuvenation?

It appears to mean different things at different times and the meaning also depends on who says it. 

Rejuvenation/maintenance is one possibility. Might be a chemical peel, or changing the saline in the implants. Or a spa day with her mom.

It's odd that Joe mentioned it because that phrase has been on the forbidden list since he snapped at her a few years ago, saying he was sick and tired of hearing it.

There are various versions of the backstory, sometimes she was held against her will by the son of a middle eastern ambassador to the US in the south of France. Or she went willingly and didn't know topless sunbathing was expected, sometimes he looked at porn, the innuendo varied. Usually it sounded like she got in over her head by not setting boundaries and thought she could giggle her way out of it.

oakville would remember. 

She started talking about it as usual one morning and Joe went off! It was ugly. I haven't heard it referenced  since forever but I don't watch every day like I did years ago.

[plumbago blues]

2 hours ago, nittany cougar said:

My point is that any MSNBC viewer under about 45 has no clue what Joe is talking about.

Ha! I bet the Queen of that 50 over 50 bullshit has no clue, either. Was that the robe in a new color today? 

 "therefore I won't hear Mika say Febairy again while announcing the date until next year."

Ugh, suomi! I am not that optimistic about there even being a next year for these two. I would so like a change for this time slot.

Edited February 26, 2021 by plumbago blues

[neona]

I'm so jealous of High-lemann's hotel room view...damn.

That story about people "supporting" Neera Tanden by harassing a WaPo reporter is so depressing. Wtf is wrong with people

so is Miami Vice any good? asking because I've watched the whole of Netflix. All. of. it. I don't really mind when Joe and Willie go off on obscure nerd tangents, it's cute haha

1 hour ago, chick binewski said:

Thank you - it wasn't just me. I know there's stuff going on in the world but I may have spent most of my week scratching my head over that comment.

I'm mildly obsessed with this show and the dynamic between the anchors.

he was just trolling, it's a running joke, whenever mika is off they say she's in the South of France 

ETA: i found a clip on youtube of one time they talked about it (tbh it actually sounds really scary like an Epstein grooming kinda thing)

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by neona

[Lowcountry snark]

2 hours ago, suomi said:

Today's show is the last one in this month and therefore I won't hear Mika say Febairy again while announcing the date until next year. 

But it will soon be Morch

[nittany cougar]

1 hour ago, Liberty said:

I wasn't watching today, was Mark Halperin on?

No but John Heileman was.   I think Halperin has a long-term deal at Newsmax.

[oakville]

49 minutes ago, neona said:

I'm so jealous of High-lemann's hotel room view...damn.

That story about people "supporting" Neera Tanden by harassing a WaPo reporter is so depressing. Wtf is wrong with people

so is Miami Vice any good? asking because I've watched the whole of Netflix. All. of. it. I don't really mind when Joe and Willie go off on obscure nerd tangents, it's cute haha

he was just trolling, it's a running joke, whenever mika is off they say she's in the South of France 

ETA: i found a clip on youtube of one time they talked about it (tbh it actually sounds really scary like an Epstein grooming kinda thing)

 

Neona, You found the infamous clip ! It seems like Dr Z wanted to set Mika up with one of the sons of President Gemayel. This would have happened between 1983-1987 . It was probably Pierre since he was born in 1972. Mika was supposed to go to the South of France , ( St Tropez) to be an au/pere/babysitter for the Gemayel family. Pierre liked Mika & probably suggested she go topless when they were at the beach. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amine_Gemayel

 

[Liberty]

7 minutes ago, nittany cougar said:

No but John Heileman was.   I think Halperin has a long-term deal at Newsmax.

Thanks,

Newsmax must only be hiring the best.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Liberty

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, Liberty said:

I wasn't watching today, was Mark Halperin on?

I didn't mean to "laugh" at your comment.  It is just that Halperin is a "person who shall not be named" on MJ...but that was not always the case.  He is a douchebag of the first order.

[oakville]

4 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I didn't mean to "laugh" at your comment.  It is just that Halperin is a "person who shall not be named" on MJ...but that was not always the case.  He is a douchebag of the first order.

There should be a list of friends of Morning Joe that have been banned from the show. I remember when Pat Buchanan was kicked off the show.

Mika & Joe protested but the network refused to let him back on.

[meowmommy]

4 hours ago, nittany cougar said:

My point is that any MSNBC viewer under about 45 has no clue what Joe is talking about.  That means that it's not cool.

I'm 63 and I've never seen Miami Vice.  But I understand many cultural references to times before I was born, and unless they really are the clueless, self-absorbed millennials and post-millennials the stereotype suggests, maybe younger viewers do, too.

1 hour ago, oakville said:

There should be a list of friends of Morning Joe that have been banned from the show. I remember when Pat Buchanan was kicked off the show.

Mika & Joe protested but the network refused to let him back on.

That last is really more telling.  It's not the Twins who don't want Halperin; it's the network.  Halperin's never coming back to MSNBC.  If they brought him back, the hue and cry would be deafening.

[oakville]

3 hours ago, neona said:

so is Miami Vice any good? asking because I've watched the whole of Netflix. All. of. it. I don't really mind when Joe and Willie go off on obscure nerd tangents, it's cute haha

 

 

Miami Vice was one the coolest shows on TV when I was in high school in 1986. It was set in Miami with cool "MTV style " cops. The show had a very popular sound track. The show was so influential that the wardrobe that pastel colored clothes that Don Johnson wore on the show became the fashion rage. There are pictures of me wearing a white blazer with pink socks which I have hidden from my children, so they don't embarrass me.

The show had very good guest stars & I really liked Edward James Olmos as the police captain.

I would definitely watch it again.

 

[neona]

oh look ---> https://www.nbc.com/miami-vice/episodes Now watching episode one!!

16 hours ago, oakville said:

The show was so influential that the wardrobe that pastel colored clothes that Don Johnson wore on the show became the fashion rage. There are pictures of me wearing a white blazer with pink socks which I have hidden from my children, so they don't embarrass me.

this actually sounds amazing. I am in favor of bringing this back. i'd pay actual money to watch Joe and Willie do the show in peach suits. Also, oakville, you need to make that pic your avatar. Your kids will never know!!

Speaking of friends of the show, what happened to Harold Ford Jr...wasn't he actually cleared of the metoo allegations? it's strange they never brought him back.

ETA: this is the cheesiest show I've ever seen. It's awesome.

Edited February 27, 2021 by neona

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, neona said:

Speaking of friends of the show, what happened to Harold Ford Jr...wasn't he actually cleared of the metoo allegations? it's strange they never brought him back.

Hush yourself!  Harold Ford was "Joe, you are so right" before it was a glimmer in Jonathan Lemire's eye.

[suomi]

1 hour ago, neona said:

Speaking of friends of the show, what happened to Harold Ford Jr...wasn't he actually cleared of the metoo allegations? it's strange they never brought him back.

It was steadily downhill after he lost the Senate race. He shoulda stayed in the House where he served five terms, which was good enough for his dad for eleven terms!

Morgan Stanley bungled his dismissal by acknowledging the harassment claim before it was reduced to he said, she said. They had enough to fire him before that but never pulled the trigger and then boxed themselves into a public statement that did them no favors.

He landed the MS gig because of nepotism (wife's stepfather), was widely seen as abrasive, didn't live up to expectations as a rainmaker, couldn't keep assistants and was on final written notice for repeatedly abusing his expense account.

He lost his protection when his 'godfather' resigned and his office was downsized and moved from the 39th floor (just below executive level) to the 6th floor. Then, although the night in question didn't rise to harassment, he lied to HR about important details.

All of that was revealed by the harassment claim so he was dirtied up enough that even Joe and Mika couldn't vouch for him by bringing him back although surely they want to.

Exhibit A - - > they went to bat for Halperin. 😞

[Crashcourse]

4 hours ago, oakville said:

Miami Vice was one the coolest shows on TV when I was in high school in 1986. It was set in Miami with cool "MTV style " cops. The show had a very popular sound track. The show was so influential that the wardrobe that pastel colored clothes that Don Johnson wore on the show became the fashion rage.

Also, he didn't wear socks.  He and Tubbs were so cool.  I loved that show.

Also, I'd watch it with my kid brother and he'd make googly eyes 🤓  at the two ladies in bikinis.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Crashcourse

[plumbago blues]

4 hours ago, neona said:

Speaking of friends of the show, what happened to Harold Ford Jr...wasn't he actually cleared of the metoo allegations? it's strange they never brought him back.

He's a fairly regular panelist on Fox News' Bret Baier's show. Plays the dissenting voice role, but meekly. Running a new SPAC at PNC where he's a vice president. Doing much, much better financially than if he'd stayed in politics. Pretty well connected, on boards, etc.

[chick binewski]

12 hours ago, suomi said:

There are various versions of the backstory, sometimes she was held against her will by the son of a middle eastern ambassador to the US in the south of France. Or she went willingly and didn't know topless sunbathing was expected, sometimes he looked at porn, the innuendo varied. Usually it sounded like she got in over her head by not setting boundaries and thought she could giggle her way out of it.

 

12 hours ago, neona said:

ETA: i found a clip on youtube of one time they talked about it (tbh it actually sounds really scary like an Epstein grooming kinda thing)

 

You've all given me a lot to unpack here and I thank everyone who responded.

And - no judgment - Mika's comportment here is positively SNL-ish. I prefer watching them pretend to be in different parts of DC. 

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 hours ago, oakville said:

Miami Vice was one the coolest shows on TV when I was in high school in 1986. It was set in Miami with cool "MTV style " cops. The show had a very popular sound track. The show was so influential that the wardrobe that pastel colored clothes that Don Johnson wore on the show became the fashion rage. There are pictures of me wearing a white blazer with pink socks which I have hidden from my children, so they don't embarrass me.

The show had very good guest stars & I really liked Edward James Olmos as the police captain.

I would definitely watch it again.

 

Just one correction: Edward James Olmos was Lieutenant Castillo, not Captain.

And scruffy-haven’t-shaved-in-3-days Sonny Crockett was the Bees Knees!🥰🥰🥰🥰

[oakville]

21 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Just one correction: Edward James Olmos was Lieutenant Castillo, not Captain.

And scruffy-haven’t-shaved-in-3-days Sonny Crockett was the Bees Knees!🥰🥰🥰🥰

You are right ! Crockett & Tubbs were very handsome.

Joe said he wouldn't watch the show when it was on because he was living in Northwest Florida at the time.

I suspect that Joe preferred watching the Dukes of Hazzard.

[Rickster]

One scene in Miami Vice (I think it might be in the first episode)makes me chuckle today. Crockett and Tubbs stop Crockett’s car in the middle of a causeway over Biscayne Bay, get a small suitcase sized box out of the back of the car, and it’s a phone! They then make a call from the middle of the causeway with no wires attached! - for no apparent reason except to show off this cool new technology.

 

[freddi]

Oh, Lord, yelling Joe is back.  About the Ivy League and anti-Ivy League forces.  I’d say Joe should just go take a quick masters degree at an Ivy, except he would be even more unbearable. 

Mika in the bathrobe of suiting material again.  

[Liberty]

19 minutes ago, freddi said:

...Mika in the bathrobe of suiting material again.  

Today's bathrobe looked like the gi she wore for her morning sumo workout. 

[Eliot]

Mika is really struggling with the Teleprompter this morning. She keeps mispronouncing “Mohammed bin Salman.” He is not a fish!

ETA: She just pronounced “vaccinate” as “vaccinite.” What is the matter with her? Why can’t she just read the words that are in front of her?

Edited March 1, 2021 by Eliot

[Kemper]

Tuned in for the 8:00 hour rerun.  Joe is manshrieking; he also has a bad case of "Ivy League" Tourettes.  

[plumbago blues]

4 hours ago, freddi said:

I’d say Joe should just go take a quick masters degree at an Ivy, except he would be even more unbearable. 

Well, they both have this on their resume. https://iop.harvard.edu/about/newsletter-press-release/msnbcs-morning-joe-hosts-joe-scarborough-and-mika-brzezinski-join

She is either trolling us or repping some "designer" with the frequent wearing of the robe. It is so unflattering. And lazy. Matches her reading skills.

[neona]

5 hours ago, Kemper said:

Tuned in for the 8:00 hour rerun.  Joe is manshrieking; he also has a bad case of "Ivy League" Tourettes.  

I knew this was coming so I dvr'ed it so I didn't have to deal with Joe's yelling and Former Guy first thing Monday morning gaaah.

Just watched it and whenever they cut mika out of the picture I knew pointless yelling was coming, so I just skipped ahead a coupla minutes till I could see mika again - this actually worked really well!!

and I could also skip the intellectual torture and life-force vampirism of the fucking Former Guy footage, so win-win. 

I like Mara Gay, i hope they make her a regular. Roger Bennett is the Hugo Ball of morning tee-vee and also a perfect and adorable human. That is all.

[Kemper]

5 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

Well, they both have this on their resume. https://iop.harvard.edu/about/newsletter-press-release/msnbcs-morning-joe-hosts-joe-scarborough-and-mika-brzezinski-join

She is either trolling us or repping some "designer" with the frequent wearing of the robe. It is so unflattering. And lazy. Matches her reading skills.

Well well well.  There may be good news about their "Fellowship" or whatever made-up public relations hype they have helped create for themselves....it could signal they are moving the "studio" back to New York?  Also...I can see where many "days off" will be accumulated.  It could  signal that the two of them are thirsty enough and ego-driven enough to think they don't need the show anymore....they are golden, no matter where they go.  Bless them. We wait.

Do we think that Meeka is naive enough to think that she would have all of "this" without riding Joe's coattails?  That she would be anywhere in the news business or on the tee vee without Joe?  Do we think that?  Well yes, most of us do.  Bless us.

[neona]

Kemper my friend just fyi the article was from four years ago, this Fellowship already happened....🙂

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, neona said:

Kemper my friend just fyi the article was from four years ago, this Fellowship already happened....🙂

Oh no!  I was so looking forward to how this would all work.  Damn and blast.

But wait...have they actually done anything with this wonderful opportunity?  Meeka...Harvard.  Joe...Ivy League!   I know how lucky Harvard would be to share the pearls of wisdom and knowledge of Joe Foghorn Leghorn who used to be a Congressman; albeit not a lifer.  Sorry...I am giddy; will be able to see family in a couple of weeks.  I am all vaccinated!  Sometimes it pays to be old.

[neona]

Yeah they did a couple of lectures and events i think... this kinda thing is pretty common to drum up publicity, raise funds, and improve networking opportunities for students and staff...but mostly what's required is just 2-3 lectures or public events *shrugs*  

14 minutes ago, Kemper said:

  Sorry...I am giddy; will be able to see family in a couple of weeks.  I am all vaccinated!  Sometimes it pays to be old.

haha tbh I am so thrilled and so thrilled for your family!!! I have this like "safe" column in my head and it's such a relief when I can put someone I know into it, like everytime it's a victory against the darkness of this year

[Liberty]

9 hours ago, Kemper said:

..  Meeka...Harvard.  Joe...Ivy League!  ...

It just occurred to me that Joe, talking about his Alabama and Florida public university education not being as prestigious as an Ivy League background, is very wrong.  At times he is focused on the injustices directed to him, in this case the lack of a prestigious education.  Sounds just like 45, and is just as insulting. 

[oakville]

3 hours ago, Liberty said:

It just occurred to me that Joe, talking about his Alabama and Florida public university education not being as prestigious as an Ivy League background, is very wrong.  At times he is focused on the injustices directed to him, in this case the lack of a prestigious education.  Sounds just like 45, and is just as insulting. 

I do think that Joe is envious of people that went to Ivy League schools. He does have a good argument about Senator Cruz & Senator Hawley going to Ivy League schools & pretending to be working class anti elites.

He may also be envious of Mika who bragged that she got into Williams College with the lowest SAT scores in her class & having Dr Z help her write her admittance essay when she applied to the school.

[suomi]

They were the lowest SAT scores in Williams' history. 

[neona]

They covered a lot of ground today, but it was a lil bit dull... I wish they'd all let themselves breathe and laugh a bit but I guess it's taking a long time to kinda... uncoil the tension caused by the former guy.

the voter suppression discussion was freakin alarming, ffs if this period now is basically just a short window of time to save democracy why is there no urgency about this?? gaaaah. 

It cracks me up that every room in Hamlet's house looks like a dungeon

[oakville]

2 hours ago, suomi said:

They were the lowest SAT scores in Williams' history. 

I wonder if Mika's SAT Exam results are displayed in a laminated case at the Williams admittance office ?

[freddi]

4 hours ago, oakville said:

I do think that Joe is envious of people that went to Ivy League schools. 

Ya think?  He got twelve minutes into the show today before he said "Ivy League".  

[Liberty]

 

4 hours ago, oakville said:

He does have a good argument about Senator Cruz & Senator Hawley going to Ivy League schools & pretending to be working class anti elites.

You are correct, he certainly does have a good argument.  Joe talking about his educational background has nothing to do with Joe's soliloquy that he's just a plain folks southern boy.  His education ha(d)s nothing to do with Cruz, Hawley and Kennedy's unacceptable behavior.  He was just putting forth his plain folks image, in a way quite similar to Cruz, Hawley and Kennedy.  Joe wants to be thought of as my neighbor one moment and as a Congressman, Attorney and Political guru at others.

Didn't someone at CPAC say that the Republican party was not a bunch of Country Club people, while the leader of the party lives at a Country Club was also arguable?  Maybe it was Charlie Sykes.  It's beginning to be difficult to be Republican when nothing Republicans believe in is real.

[oakville]

22 minutes ago, Liberty said:

 

You are correct, he certainly does have a good argument.  Joe talking about his educational background has nothing to do with Joe's soliloquy that he's just a plain folks southern boy.  His education ha(d)s nothing to do with Cruz, Hawley and Kennedy's unacceptable behavior.  He was just putting forth his plain folks image, in a way quite similar to Cruz, Hawley and Kennedy.  Joe wants to be thought of as my neighbor one moment and as a Congressman, Attorney and Political guru at others.

 

I am pretty sure that Joe campaigned as an outsider from  "Good Old Boy from Florida -Alabama" with a degree from the University of Roll Tide when he ran for Congress in 1994. The longtime  incumbent Democratic congressman had decided to retire, so the seat was vacant.

He ran against President Clinton -Ivy Elite who had raised taxes & wanted to provide socialized  healthcare.

In the past few years , he has argued that "Washington always wins" & that Presidents that ran as "outsiders" such as Clinton,Bush,Obama & Trump have failed because they don't understand how "Washington" works.

I think Joe likes to be known as a Washington insider because he loves that so many world leaders call him everyday to ask him for advice on politics.

 

 

[suomi]

I can't believe I forgot this one: Europenian Union.

[oakville]

Tuesday mini recap. Mika decided to spare viewers seeing her in her awful sci- fi bathrobes & wore a black cardigan with a fushia top. They played a clip of Dr Fauci in March 2020 warning about the Coronavirus. He warned about teleworking & schools closing on a temporary basis.

Joe is still wearing a blue wrinkled shirt.

Mika said Wow!. Joe blamed President Trump for not being honest about the pandemic in early March 2020 . Trump told Bob Woodward that the virus would be a killer virus.

Joe said that Joe Biden had written an op ed about the USA not being prepared for a pandemic.

I believe that I have written this recap several times since last year.

 

[oakville]

Mika briefly read a statement about Gov Cuomo being accused of sexual harassment by a third woman at a wedding & some Democrats are calling him to resign.

Will the show have a discussion about Cuomo? Long time viewers of Morning Joe remember Joe's battle with the Governor's brother, Chris in 2016. Joe did not like being called a "Trump booster" a campaign spokesperson for Trump.

https://thehill.com/media/310705-scarborough-escalates-feud-with-unhinged-chris-cuomo

Mika asked Joe for his opinion on President Trump's speech at CPAC.  Joe said the speech was flat & he used a TelePrompter.

Can Trump can read a TelePrompter better than Mika ?

Joe blasted Trump for going offscript & talking about conspiracy theories.

Joe applauded Bernie Sanders & AOC for helping Joe Biden during the election.

Joe said Democrats are acting like a governing majority.

Joe called the Republicans a party of grievances & Jesters. Will they make Festivus a national holiday Christmas ?