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[WhineandCheez]

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His long riff on Bill Clinton and impeachment makes me think he has not ruled out his dream of running for office again (but this time of course, as an "independent". 

Again,  this AM,  The Bill Clinton Impeachment Information Network felt the need to tell me that  BC was impeached because he lied about a sexual harassment case.  I thought it was because he lied about having sex with ML?  I'm a young whippersnapper so I don't know (in fact I'm old, proven by the use of the term "whippersnapper")

Mika stumbled over her reading twice today in the 20 minutes I listened.  DOES NO ONE REPRIMAND HER OVER THIS???  this is so fucking basic.

[meowmommy]

5 hours ago, Landsnark said:

Joe is offended and pissed and tells the team to cut Donnie's mic.

I can't stand Donny Deutsch, but he was right and Joe was an asshole.  And Donny's from New York and Joe isn't, so he would know more about life under Hizzoner.  Cut his mic?  For mildly disagreeing with him?  Why would Donny ever want to come back?

Mika, honey, it's your honey who needs help.

[Rickster]

3 hours ago, oakville said:

Alicia's dad is Senator Robert Menendez.

I am reminded of a commentator yesterday on CNN who said (in relation to the Bidens), “if politicians’ families were banned from leveraging political connections, half of Congress would resign tomorrow”.

Mika could be a good role model for Alicia 😉

[Damaris56]

Yeah, I have to agree Joe was an asshole this morning with regards to his behavior toward Donnie Deutsch.  Clearly, you're not allowed to have a difference of opinion with Joe or he'll have them cut your mike.  I'm also no fan of Donnie Deutsch, but he was right.  I'm a New Yorker, born and raised and still live here (63 years old).  Rudy Guliani was always an arrogant, smug pos as mayor of New York.  As Donnie stated (and I've been saying the same thing since 9/11), he was doing his job as mayor.  That's what you sign up for with a major city like NY.  What was he supposed to do?  Go hide in a bunker?  It was clear that after 9/11, he became even more power-hungry and fashioned himself as a hero for political gain.  Al Sharpton commented at the time, "You didn't bring us together, our pain brought us together and our decency brought us together.  We would have come together if Bozo was the Mayor."  He also consistently tried to downplay the health effects arising from 9/11 attacks in the Financial District.   He was never liked as the mayor and his personal life was a mess.  His first wife was his second cousin.  When he cheated on her with his press secretary and then moved on to Donna Hanover, who he wanted to marry, he got the Catholic Church to annul the marriage by claiming he just discovered she was his second cousin (yeah, right).  He then cheated on Hanover and filed for divorce from her last year after a long separation when she caught him cheating on her with another woman.  The kids from his marriage to Hanover want nothing to do with him.  They are estranged.  I haven't heard anything about his drinking, but I wouldn't be surprised.  The man is batshit crazy and appears to be as unhinged as Trump.  But, yeah, when I find myself shouting "Shut up, Joe!" at the television set, it may be time to call it a day.

[teddysmom]

1 hour ago, meowmommy said:

Cut his mic? 

Joe is turning into his arch enemies Bill O'Reilly/Sean Hannity. 

What's he so pissed about? Didn't Mika like the cake he made last night? 

[meowmommy]

5 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Joe is turning into his arch enemies Bill O'Reilly/Sean Hannity. 

It's funny you say that, because when I was watching, I immediately flashed to the last time I saw someone's mic cut, and it was Bill O'Reilly.  In the 90s.  

What struck me is not only what a thin skin Joe has, but that the argument wasn't even particularly heated.  As soon as Donny started to contradict Joe, Joe went right to mic cut.  Imagine if there was a real screamfest.

Edited October 1, 2019 by meowmommy

[teddysmom]

14 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

What struck me is not only what a thin skin Joe has, but that the argument wasn't even particularly heated.  As soon as Donny started to contradict Joe, Joe went right to mic cut.  Imagine if there was a real screamfest.

Maybe Joe is defending him because he sees himself in Rudy.  Retired from politics, wants more than anything to be back in the game, and pissed at the world that no one recognizes what a genius he is. 

[amarante]

Giuliani was also responsible for having Emergency Command Center in the WTC after it was advised against in terms of it being a likely target for terrorists - even if the plane attack couldn't have been predicted.

He was always a hypocritical POS and a serial sexual harasser. My friend worked as an attorney when he was the head of the Southern District and he had sex with all the young female attorneys working there. 

[Eliot]

I am honestly quite puzzled by the sudden touting of Nikki Haley and Mitt Romney as the so-called "saviors" of the Republican party post Trump. Every single one of them will have their association with Trump hung around their neck, and even Haley's strategic departure from the administration won't save her once the shit comes down.

[neona]

I wasn't able to watch the show live this morning, but I read the comments and to be honest I was a bit disappointed when I actually saw the Joe/Donny skirmish. I was expecting an epic showdown, but they were laughing throughout and Donny seemed more bemused than offended when his mic was cut.

It struck me that if you pay attention to the tone, there are rarely serious, emotional disagreements between the panellists on this show because often the discussions are too meta/detached in an "it's all a game" kind of way for actual emotional investment. 

Donny was definitely right about Guiliani though. 

[teddysmom]

49 minutes ago, amarante said:

He was always a hypocritical POS and a serial sexual harasser. My friend worked as an attorney when he was the head of the Southern District and he had sex with all the young female attorneys working there. 

Gross.

I remember the stuff about the Emergency Command Center, and also the NYPD/FDNY did not like him at all. 

[Landsnark]

The discussion wasn't heated, per se.  It was BIZARRE.  Joe insulted Giuliani freely for a few minutes, and then Donnie AGREED with him, which offended Joe for some reason and  then he flipped 180' and claimed Rudy was a hero and we all have to remember that.  Donnie said no, then Joe flipped another 360' and compared Rudy Giuliani to Winston Churchill.
From my perspective, Donnie was agreeing with Joe, but Joe wasn't going to allow piling on Rudy... I dunno.  It was weird as hell.

[oakville]

3 hours ago, meowmommy said:

I can't stand Donny Deutsch, but he was right and Joe was an asshole.  And Donny's from New York and Joe isn't, so he would know more about life under Hizzoner.  Cut his mic?  For mildly disagreeing with him?  Why would Donny ever want to come back?

Mika, honey, it's your honey who needs help.

Joe considers himself to be an expert on NYC. He used to tell stories about how unsafe the city was when Mayor Dinkins was running the city. Joe complained about panhandlers , poor people & broken windows every where. Joe struggled to bring his first wife to the city with their children.

Joe was happy when Giuliani got elected & cleared the streets of beggars.

Joe loved the police's "stop & frisk" policy which was applied to POC who were in Manhattan without a valid reason.

I m not sure how many people remember the episode where Mika was mugged in NYC before the show. A panhandler asked her for money. Joe went ballistic & said Bloomberg was too soft on pan handlers. He arranged for Mika to have a driver /bodyguard.

Donny was back on the show today after the mic was cut off.

Joe left the show before 8 o clock. He had to take the SUV for service. He kept shouting at Mika off set as to where the keys were for the SUV.

18 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

The discussion wasn't heated, per se.  It was BIZARRE.  Joe insulted Giuliani freely for a few minutes, and then Donnie AGREED with him, which offended Joe for some reason and  then he flipped 180' and claimed Rudy was a hero and we all have to remember that.  Donnie said no, then Joe flipped another 360' and compared Rudy Giuliani to Winston Churchill.
From my perspective, Donnie was agreeing with Joe, but Joe wasn't going to allow piling on Rudy... I dunno.  It was weird as hell.

I watch the show for crazy moments like that. You never know when Joe is going to explode at someone.

[meowmommy]

4 minutes ago, oakville said:

Donny was back on the show today after the mic was cut off.

Proof positive that some people will endure anything for their chance at famewhoredom.  Any self-respecting guest would have told Joe to fuck off and never darkened his door again.

[neona]

27 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Proof positive that some people will endure anything for their chance at famewhoredom.  Any self-respecting guest would have told Joe to fuck off and never darkened his door again.

That was my point above though. It wasn't serious, none of it is serious. To any perceptive human observer, Joe wasn't seriously angry, Donny wasn't seriously offended. They are all thrice removed from everything and arguments are not even "academic" they are gleefully sportsmanlike in their remoteness. 

[oakville]

3 hours ago, meowmommy said:

Proof positive that some people will endure anything for their chance at famewhoredom.  Any self-respecting guest would have told Joe to fuck off and never darkened his door again.

Donny used to bring on Louboutin shoes for Mika on a regular basis when he first started appearing on the show.

He also convinced Mika to appear in bed with him for a commercial about Morning Joe.

The commercial was filmed in his apartment.

Donny loves the camera time & even convinced Marla Maples to date him so he could rub it in President Trump's face.

Edited October 2, 2019 by oakville
forgot the link

[xaxat]

5 hours ago, Damaris56 said:

It was clear that after 9/11, he became even more power-hungry and fashioned himself as a hero for political gain. 

Remember that time he floated the idea of  extending his term in office?

How did Mika find out about the pregnant women over at CNBC? Their studio is in New Jersey so you know Mika never goes over there. Hell, the only time she goes to Manhattan is when there is a party or Joe has a gig.

[nittany cougar]

Today, they started with a clip of Geraldo Rivera on the Hannity program on Fox.  Joe was really hyper making fun of Geraldo, and Mika looked pissed. They showed clips of the Washington Nationals celebrating their wild card victory.  I thought Joe was a Red Sox fan...

Elyse and Mike Barnicle are in the studio with Joe and Mika.  Mika said there is anti-impeachment rhetoric from the president about a coup.  Joe said impeachment is a constitutional process, not a coup.

Jon Meacham gave some history of impeachment. 

I am waiting for Mika to tell us what her dad thought of impeachment!  

Joe said Trump talked about beating up people. I would like to see more analysis of the legal aspects of an impeachment.   I think the show needs an interview with a constitutional scholar. 

Edited October 2, 2019 by nittanycougar

[crossover]

Jon Meacham talked about Americans being a forgiving people except when lied to.  Then he went on and named the presidents who got in trouble during the modern era—Johnson/Vietnam, Nixon/everything, Clinton/scandals, Trump/everything.  

Is Meacham a republican lover?  I know Nixon and Trump are republicans.  But, I don’t care who you are, if you’re talking about presidents who lied, you must include Nixon.  And, Joe likes to remind everyone, especially lately, that Trump isn’t a true republican.  Didn’t he run down all the democrats that Trump gave money to yesterday?  I remember thinking but how many republicans did he give money to?  

Meacham didn’t mention Reagan/IranContra, DaddyBush/Read my lips, or, W/Iraq.  Of course they lied about more than those but they are the ones people normally think about right away.  Yet, Meacham couldn’t think of anything.  He let Carter off the hook as well but they had just talked about how Carter was most proud of telling the people the truth.

[XOQueens]

2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

I am waiting for Mika to tell us what her dad thought of impeachment!  

😂 

[teddysmom]

16 hours ago, oakville said:

the episode where Mika was mugged in NYC before the show. A panhandler asked her for money.

So was she mugged or was it a panhandler? Those are two entirely different things. 

Of course I wouldn't expect Mika not to take some poor man asking her for a couple dollars and make it sound like she was held at gunpoint and told to turn over her jewelry and cash. 

Remember when she was held hostage in the Middle East and forced to watch porn?  

Was it Seal Team Six that got you out of there Mika?

Edited October 2, 2019 by teddysmom

[Eliot]

Punchable Noah Rothman was on the show today and contributed a priceless moment in which he went on some extended libertarian rant about vaping and rambled on so long that when he finally paused and looked around expectantly he was met with a silence so heavy I swear I heard it thud.

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Is Meacham a republican lover?

I don't know if he's a republican lover, but I think both he and Doris Kearns Goodwin are so completely out of their depth in responding to the Trump presidency that they have no coherent way to respond to it. They keep reaching back in history and dredging up platitudes about the "strength of the institutions" in an effort to try to find some sort of context, but there just is none. They both have been looking progressively more bewildered as this presidency drags on.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Eliot

[RedheadZombie]

22 hours ago, Damaris56 said:

Yeah, I have to agree Joe was an asshole this morning with regards to his behavior toward Donnie Deutsch.  Clearly, you're not allowed to have a difference of opinion with Joe or he'll have them cut your mike.  I'm also no fan of Donnie Deutsch, but he was right.  I'm a New Yorker, born and raised and still live here (63 years old).  Rudy Guliani was always an arrogant, smug pos as mayor of New York.  As Donnie stated (and I've been saying the same thing since 9/11), he was doing his job as mayor.  That's what you sign up for with a major city like NY.  What was he supposed to do?  Go hide in a bunker?  It was clear that after 9/11, he became even more power-hungry and fashioned himself as a hero for political gain.  Al Sharpton commented at the time, "You didn't bring us together, our pain brought us together and our decency brought us together.  We would have come together if Bozo was the Mayor."  He also consistently tried to downplay the health effects arising from 9/11 attacks in the Financial District.   He was never liked as the mayor and his personal life was a mess.  His first wife was his second cousin.  When he cheated on her with his press secretary and then moved on to Donna Hanover, who he wanted to marry, he got the Catholic Church to annul the marriage by claiming he just discovered she was his second cousin (yeah, right).  He then cheated on Hanover and filed for divorce from her last year after a long separation when she caught him cheating on her with another woman.  The kids from his marriage to Hanover want nothing to do with him.  They are estranged.  I haven't heard anything about his drinking, but I wouldn't be surprised.  The man is batshit crazy and appears to be as unhinged as Trump.  But, yeah, when I find myself shouting "Shut up, Joe!" at the television set, it may be time to call it a day.

Giuliani gets such praise for being out in the immediate aftermath after 9/11, but wasn't it because he stupidly refused to move headquarters from the WTC after the first attack?  He was warned it remained a huge target. His legend was also created because Dubya was bug-eyed and staring, practically paralyzed about what to do.  Giuliana became the de facto president that day.  Everyone forgot who he really was for quite a long time.

21 hours ago, amarante said:

Giuliani was also responsible for having Emergency Command Center in the WTC after it was advised against in terms of it being a likely target for terrorists - even if the plane attack couldn't have been predicted.

He was always a hypocritical POS and a serial sexual harasser. My friend worked as an attorney when he was the head of the Southern District and he had sex with all the young female attorneys working there. 

So sorry @Amarante, I should have read further before posting my comment.

[oakville]

3 hours ago, teddysmom said:

So was she mugged or was it a panhandler? Those are two entirely different things. 

Of course I wouldn't expect Mika not to take some poor man asking her for a couple dollars and make it sound like she was held at gunpoint and told to turn over her jewelry and cash. 

Remember when she was held hostage in the Middle East and forced to watch porn?  

Was it Seal Team Six that got you out of there Mika?

IIRC, she was stopped on the street by a panhandler that asked her for money. 

He did not realize who she was & she ended up giving him some cash.

Its too bad that she didn’t have a copy of her book on hand to give him.

[oakville]

I enjoyed seeing Michael Moore. He told Joe that the liberal base in America is bigger than the Trump base. If they vote in 2020, Trump & the GOP are doomed.

Joe did not like that & repeated that Democrats need the support of Never Trump GOP .

He also told Joe that he is annoying Mike by continuing to talk baseball throughput the show. Joe laughed.

I don’t like watching Mike & Joe at separate cameras.

[teddysmom]

8 minutes ago, oakville said:

IIRC, she was stopped on the street by a panhandler that asked her for money. 

He did not realize who she was & she ended up giving him some cash.

Its too bad that she didn’t have a copy of her book on hand to give him.

Then why did Joe freak out so much?  Oh that's right have to protect the little woman show her what a tough guy we are. While she's putting more gel in your hair. 

Edited October 2, 2019 by teddysmom

[Chloesmom]

3 hours ago, Eliot said:

Punchable Noah Rothman was on the show today and contributed a priceless moment in which he went on some extended libertarian rant about vaping and rambled on so long that when he finally paused and looked around expectantly he was met with a silence so heavy I swear I heard it thud.

I don't know if he's a republican lover, but I think both he and Doris Kearns Goodwin are so completely out of their depth in responding to the Trump presidency that they have no coherent way to respond to it. They keep reaching back in history and dredging up platitudes about the "strength of the institutions" in an effort to try to find some sort of context, but there just is none. They both have been looking progressively more bewildered as this presidency drags on.

You know Eliot I would have agreed with this earlier in the day but I caught DKG on another channel and she was a breath of fresh air relating our current circumstances back to previous examples (as much as one can) but I didn't come away with the feeling like she was the history librarian like I do when she is on MJ.  As is with so many previous MJ guests, they are so different and so much more interesting on other programs. 

Something inside of me snapped this morning watching their usual shtick.  I now have zero tolerance for Joe bellowing over invited guests and sorry Michael Moore who clearly set up that volley over the net I don't think it's funny that Mika cleans out her purse when she is bored with sports.  I don't think I can watch them anymore even just to see where they are located for the day or their patter.  There is too much truly serious stuff going on right now and I need real information delivered in a sensible way.  They are always behind the curve on early morning breaking news.  I am not young (63) but I am tired of their geriatric responses to the scoop of the day (no one cares about what you did back in the 90's as we have the INTERNET now).  Enough.

[Chloesmom]

30 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Then why did Joe freak out so much?  Oh that's right have to protect the little woman show her what a tough guy we are. While she's putting more gel in your hair. 

Oh yes protect the little woman while he completely mows over any and all commentary she may have and then make up for it when he condescendingly says "Mika and I got a phone call blah blah blah " . . . barf.

[oakville]

57 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Then why did Joe freak out so much?  Oh that's right have to protect the little woman show her what a tough guy we are. While she's putting more gel in your hair. 

Joe spent many years trying to lure Mike away from her husband. It started before the show Morning Joe aired on tv. 

After the mugging, Joe ensured that Mike had a driver to pick her up from home & drop her off at Rockefeller Center. 

Joe also rented an apartment in Manhattan for Mika & himself in case there were traffic or weather issues preventing them from going back home. 

[teddysmom]

52 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Something inside of me snapped this morning watching their usual shtick.  I now have zero tolerance for Joe bellowing over invited guests and sorry Michael Moore who clearly set up that volley over the net I don't think it's funny that Mika cleans out her purse when she is bored with sports.  I don't think I can watch them anymore even just to see where they are located for the day or their patter.  There is too much truly serious stuff going on right now and I need real information delivered in a sensible way.  They are always behind the curve on early morning breaking news.  I am not young (63) but I am tired of their geriatric responses to the scoop of the day (no one cares about what you did back in the 90's as we have the INTERNET now).  Enough.

I feel exactly the same. Unless something happens between midnight and 6 am, all Joe & Mika do is repeat what happened yesterday. If it's that big a breaking story, Yasmin & Ayman cover it.  

Whenever they aren't there, the show is SO much better. 

I've mentioned I watch sitcom reruns now, lately TBS started running Seinfeld at 7 am. 

Jerry Seinfeld>Joe Scarborough, by about 1000%. 

[The Solution]

18 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I've mentioned I watch sitcom reruns now, lately TBS started running Seinfeld at 7 am. 

Useful information! I watch Cosby show reruns on TV One instead of Chris Matthews because I can't stand to listen to him whine.

[Kemper]

Mr. Kemper and I were in the car this morning...had MJ on the radio.  I noticed that Joe tried one time to interrupt/talk over Michael Moore - but Moore kept talking and Joe shut up. And the purse cleaning got old the second time Her Nibs did it.  I wish Joe would get out his wallet and clean it out when she brings up KYV schtick.  

There was a guest on...did not hear the intro...but he had something to do with trying to manage the opioid epidemic.  Joe talked over him and brought up tobacco and the evil-ness.  And how/why aren't they going to abolish cigarettes since more people get sick/die from tobacco than opioids.  Sorry, I am apparently not spelling "opioid" correctly.  He was quite adamant and a bit bullying.  I think he actually said he was sorry/not sorry for the tobacco bullying.  I don't know who the guest was but I felt sorry for him. Remember when we used to call Joe (Television Without Pity) Morning Douche? 

My fallback for when The Twins get to me is HGTV if there is something on that is not a Flip show.  Except for Flea Market Flip...I want Lara/Laura's legs. 

[teddysmom]

14 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Joe (Television Without Pity) Morning Douche? 

And Doucheborough!

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Sorry, I am apparently not spelling "opioid" correctly.

Yes, you are. 

[teddysmom]

2 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Sorry, I am apparently not spelling "opioid" correctly.

Yes, you are.

I meant to mention that too. It's such an odd word, no spelling every looks correct. 

[oakville]

5 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Then why did Joe freak out so much?  Oh that's right have to protect the little woman show her what a tough guy we are. While she's putting more gel in your hair. 

Joe took pride in protecting Mika from evil executives at NBC who wouldn't pay Mika her true value. Joe was generous & gave Mika part of his bonus.

In Mika's first book, she complained about having to pay for her own clothes & childcare on a $150K salary.

Joe warned other NBC employees like Matt Lauer, Tom Brokaw , Harold Ford Jr & Mark Halperin not to try & flirt with her because she was "off limits".

Joe did complain to Mayor Mike Bloomberg about NYC allowing panhandlers on the streets.

Joe was outraged at the amount of poor people allowed near Rockefeller Centre.

The NYC police turned down Joe's request that Mika have a police escort when traveling from her home to the studio.

He convinced NBC to pay for a driver for her from Bronxville to Manhattan.

Edited October 2, 2019 by oakville

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Joe was generous & gave Mika part of his bonus.

Was that bonus or boner?

[suomi]

Just now, meowmommy said:

Was that bonus or boner?

Part of his bonus and, taking into consideration where they (and we) are today, all of his boner. 

Sadly, of the seven paragraphs in oakville's post, only the next-to-last paragraph is satire/sarcasm. 

[oakville]

2 hours ago, meowmommy said:

Was that bonus or boner?

Joe admitted to staying up late at night in bed to watch Mika hand off the show  when it aired in the Pacific Time Zone to "Scarborough Country" in the sarcastic tone that she still uses.

[nittany cougar]

Joe and Mika are off.  Willie is on the set with Barnicle and Jonathan Lemire.  Lemire says the president is flailing.  The NY Times reports that more subpoenas are coming.

They showed Trump's contentious press conference yesterday.  The president had a tense exchange with a reporter.  

Willie has excellent command in the studio and is much more professional than Joe. Willie is not laughing, name calling, or riffing on his own jokes. 

They showed an interview with Sam Stein and Adam Schiff where Schiff said he had not spoken with the whistleblower. Stein said Schiff regretted not being clear about his communication.  Sam Stein has some interesting insights.

Edited October 3, 2019 by nittanycougar

[xaxat]

37 minutes ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe and Mika are off. 

It's been a slow news week. I don't blame them for taking some time off.

ETA. The show is sooo much better when everyone is around the table. Joe and Mika have turned it into a glorified teleconference. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by xaxat

[Eliot]

8 minutes ago, xaxat said:

It's been a slow news week. I don't blame them for taking some time off.

LOL!

Yay, Max Rose is on! He now supports impeachment. I don’t agree with him on everything, but I genuinely like him and always enjoy his appearances.

[WhineandCheez]

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Joe and Mika are off. 

It's been a slow news week. I don't blame them for taking some time off.

I sincerely hope that this was said sarcastically, xaxat!

[Landsnark]

3 hours ago, xaxat said:

It's been a slow news week. I don't blame them for taking some time off.

Coffee-spitting funny.  well done

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[oakville]

Mika & Joe's disappearance from the show today might be explained by the Fox News report released today. Mika privately supported one of women accusing Tom Brokaw of sexual misconduct. She signed the letter with other NBC staff supporting Brokaw . Joe tried to break up the fight between Mika & Ms. Vester.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/linda-vester-tom-brokaw-mika-brzezinski-public-support-private-apology

Edited October 4, 2019 by oakville

[suomi]

She's a damn busybody, isn't she? Always looking for an angle, always playing an angle. Ooh, hunty.

[nittany cougar]

1 hour ago, suomi said:

She's a damn busybody, isn't she? Always looking for an angle, always playing an angle. Ooh, hunty.

Seems like it.  She also takes inconsistent positions on harrassment. Mika and Joe tried to help Mark Halperin.

I tried to post earlier about the show but got an error message.  Willie is hosting in the studio today.    The top story was text communications between officials about the Ukraine.  He already interviewed Michael Steele, Steve Linksman and a reporter from the New York Times. 

Donnie Deutsch was in the studio talking about economic indicators.

Willie is impressive.

Edited October 4, 2019 by nittanycougar

[Chloesmom]

8 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe's disappearance from the show today might be explained by the Fox News report released today. Mika privately supported one of women accusing Tom Brokaw of sexual misconduct. She signed the letter with other NBC staff supporting Brokaw . Joe tried to break up the fight between Mika & Ms. Vester.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/linda-vester-tom-brokaw-mika-brzezinski-public-support-private-apology

Wowzers this is money Oakville, thanks for posting it!  Meeks must be quite the handful when she gets going.  I love how she laments that a "deeply personal conversation" is now public knowledge.  Uh, I think that ship sailed when you were screaming at Linda Vester on a public sidewalk and your husband had to drag you back into the house.

[Chloesmom]

13 minutes ago, nittanycougar said:

Seems like it.  She also takes inconsistent positions on harrassment. Mika and Joe tried to help Mark Halperin.

I tried to post earlier about the show but got an error message.  Willie is hosting in the studio today.    The top story was text communications between officials about the Ukraine.  He already interviewed Michael Steele, Steve Linksman and a reporter from the New York Times. 

Donnie Deutsch was in the studio talking about economic indicators.

Willie is impressive!

I love how she called Brokaw an old man and would never recover from these allegations.  He's worth millions and the bulk of his career was over a decade ago.  Sorry but folks don't want to hear from him anymore especially after so many woman came forward about what a treat he was to work with back in his heyday.

Geez.

I am so glad I tuned in this morning, this show is a delight and I definitely feel smarter and more informed then I did before the show.  Willie and guests did an excellent job laying out those text messages and how they changed when they realized they were starting to be scrutinized and Ratner sounding another alarm that certain key sectors in the economy are really starting to sag (my only complaint is can we puh-leeze stop talking about how Trump voters aren't moving away from him?  They aren't going to so just stop it already). 

So much news pumped out in the first hour.  I can't imagine how many stories/segments get cut because Joe and his bloviating run completely over the allotted time(s).