S06.E08: Going Deep

[Tara Ariano]

Kyle hosts a book signing at her new Hamptons pop-up shop for pal Bethenny Frankel. Also, Eileen shares a secret from her past; Erika picks up a recovering Yolanda in her private plane; Kyle consults Faye Resnick for help in dealing with sister Kim.

[Lassus]

Why in the name of the Flatiron Building am I being forced to watch Bethany goddamned Frankel?

[Suck It Trebek]

This episode summed up: Yawn.

[ivygirl]

All things considered, that WAS a decent trip as housewives trips go.

The hop over the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erika's stock went up.

"It's fine," a smile and a wave = awesome way to deal with Bethenny. RHONY ladies take note.

Good grief, Yolanda's measuring stick for friendship will now be "will they pick me up in a private plane?" (Not knocking Erika's gesture at all.)

Meanwhile, Lisar took a dive.

Stay out of the Kim stuff, lady. Not that Kim wasn't awful to her, but right now isn't the time for YOU to act the injured party.

New girl seems cool. So far ;) I remember seeing her photos. Kyle's shady "innocent question" re:Faye... Eyeroll.

[Rhetorica]

I finally remembered to watch! My gawd, why does everything have to be so dramatic with these women? They're exhausting to watch, much less, be around. They would be horrible friends. They're so busy talking about themselves, and gossiping and judging others, that they never even consider listening to another even though they pretend to "entasize" - Yolandaism. And Kyle's "It's just a question..." So innocent.

[rustyspigot]

Return of the morally corrupt Faye. And she shows up... so they can talk about Kim some more. Jesus.

 

Kind of boring overall. 

 

Kathryn got quite the greeting from LVP "WHO ARE YOU HERE WITH?" She made it sound like Kathryn was crashing this "star studded" event (cut to another shot of Lance Bass). And not the best advertising for Pump that they have to leave to go to another bar to get a cold drink.

Edited January 20, 2016 by rustyspigot

[heatherchandler]

SHUT UP KEN! Jesus Christ why are you even there? Fucking asking for clarification about a conversation he's not part of, just get off my screen.

And your little dog too!

[nexxie]

SHUT UP KEN! Jesus Christ why are you even there? Fucking asking for clarification about a conversation he's not part of, just get off my screen.

And your little dog too!

Ken is Lisa's flying monkey.

[Straycat80]

I think they are bringing in new girl to get some smack down going between her and Faye. And about something that happened so long ago, O.J. Because this season has been such a downer so far between Yo's illness, Kim's issues , Eileen's deaths in her family. It's kind of depressing to watch.

Doesn't Ken feel like a fifth wheel hanging around with all women. He's kind of becoming like Jiggy, being dragged around wherever Lisa goes. This depresses me too.

[mbaywife123]

Be gone Frankle, back to the nether region to which you belong.

Erika does appear to be a good friend, and a genuine, nice person.

While I do understand the need to bring Kim's name up so that the viewers can catch up on her shenanigans when she appears again (shudder!) I really just don't care anymore.

Seems someone told Eileen to amp up her personal "story" this season.

LisaR is starting to piss me off with her "coy" scripted comments and questions.

Go away Faye no one is interested in you.

Kathryn is stunning!

[heatherchandler]

Ken is Lisa's flying monkey.

Yes! Nailed it!

[charming]

How much empathy and compassion did Yolanda have for Joyce or Adrienne? I can't stand her arrogant ass. 

 

The more the women tried to get LVP to talk about her lawsuit the funnier it got. She's so good at this and wouldn't give them an inch. They didn't have the guts to go all the way so once again she wins.

 

So if Eileen and Lisa R want to talk about Kim they're not coming from a good place. Even though they defended Kyle all last season as Kim threw out insult after insult towards her, including how superior Kathy as a sister is. Now that Kim's been arrested a million times Kyle only wants to talk about it on camera with Faye and Beth? Alrighty then.

[Bronzedog]

This just seemed to be cobbled together to me. It was kind of a mess. And, how random was Eileen's "btw - I was in a very abusive relationship." Now, let's go find Faye Reznick! Oh look - a charity event!" Now let's capitalize on OJ Simpson's murders! It was all over the place.

[Thumper]

I'm SO tired of the Kim talk.

I can't believe Eileen brought up the Lisa VP "hurt" again. Got a kick out of Kyle knowing exactly how that would go down, though!

Not looking forward to the OJ/Faye Resnick storyline. Ugh.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Thumper

[mbaywife123]

Forgot to add that it was nice to see Camille again and that scene of Kim climbing over the cement guardrail to nowhere will never ever not be hilarious! I said good day to you, end scene indeed.

[nexxie]

A film on the OJ trial is coming out soon - what a coincidence!

Edited January 20, 2016 by nexxie

[TacoBoutIt]

I convinced that 4 years ago, a tick did not infect Yolanda with lyme disease but instead, a mutagen that slowly transformed her into that one-upping Kristen Wiig snl character.  

It's not just any implant leak, but the largest.  She did post an xray of her leakage on instagram but I can't seem to find it now.  Really wanted to see if it was all the way to her collarbone.

[heatherchandler]

OH and Lisa V with her, "and if I asked Eileen if anyone ever beat the CRAP out of her... but I just asked her about a love story..." What???

I read Faye's book over the weekend, well actually it only took like 2 hours to finish it. Those Beverly Hills housewives were living the fast life in the early 90s! Hoo boy! Cheating and drinking and dancing and drugs.

Edited January 20, 2016 by heatherchandler

[ryebread]

I finally remembered to watch! My gawd, why does everything have to be so dramatic with these women? They're exhausting to watch, much less, be around. They would be horrible friends. They're so busy talking about themselves, and gossiping and judging others, that they never even consider listening to another even though they pretend to "entasize" - Yolandaism. And Kyle's "It's just a question..." So innocent.

 

Yup.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Erika is a 'one and done'.  I caught her looking so bored and over it, about 5 times tonight.  After the fundraiser (or whatever that was at PUMP), when they left to go to the District, Erika was so dragging her butt up the steps. Her body language said, "Jeezus. I'd rather be anywhere than here."  She just wanted to go home, but was still on the clock. I think she's done after this season.  She doesn't need the cash and clearly doesn't like any of these women.  Maybe Eileen.  But Eileen showed a bit of wobbly backbone and Erika either appreciates her for her honesty or views it as a weakness. 

[Giselle]

Ken is Lisa's flying monkey.

 

Ken also checks her for ticks.

Why in the name of the Flatiron Building am I being forced to watch Bethany goddamned Frankel?

 

Because Andy likes the regular prostate checks Beth gives him.

[allboys]

Poor LisaR, yes the whole Kim thing must have been really hard on you.  I wonder if maybe you had stayed out of Kim's business and stopped bringing it up like she repeatedly asked you to, things wouldn't have been so hard on you.  Similar to how Kyle keeps saying she doesn't want to talk about it and people keep bringing it up.

Let it go, for real.

[AttackTurtle]

Personally, I'm looking forward to watching Faye squirm. I generally like Kyle, but she knows damn well what Faye wrote about Marcus Allen.

I love that Lisa had no intention of sharing her deep dark secrets.

[Giselle]

I convinced that 4 years ago, a tick did not infect Yolanda with lyme disease but instead, a mutagen that slowly transformed her into that one-upping Kristen Wiig snl character.  

It's not just any implant leak, but the largest.  She did post an xray of her leakage on instagram but I can't seem to find it now.  Really wanted to see if it was all the way to her collarbone.

 

Don't forget that 2 foot long parasite flushed out of her wazoo.

[Petunia13]

Yolanda is so needy and deep down it is always about her. With every one.

I doubt she'd do half as much for Erika or hell even listens to her problems. Even wench she did nice things like bring My Love his lunch at work it was to build herself up, not because he wanted it or needed it, but because it was on camera and she wanted his attention too.

[ryebread]

Poor LisaR, yes the whole Kim thing must have been really hard on you. 

 

I think she is so callous.

[Lassus]

And your little dog too!

 

Hey now!  Back up off Jiggy!

[Giselle]

Yup.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Erika is a 'one and done'.  I caught her looking so bored and over it, about 5 times tonight.  After the fundraiser (or whatever that was at PUMP), when they left to go to the District, Erika was so dragging her butt up the steps. Her body language said, "Jeezus. I'd rather be anywhere than here."  She just wanted to go home, but was still on the clock. I think she's done after this season.  She doesn't need the cash and clearly doesn't like any of these women.  Maybe Eileen.  But Eileen showed a bit of wobbly backbone and Erika either appreciates her for her honesty or views it as a weakness. 

 

This just makes me like her more.

[lunastartron]

This season desperately needed Kathryn's energy and charisma (I can't make any pronouncements on her character or general personality but she seems to be much more articulate and engaging than Erika which is ironic considering Mrs. Girardi's profession) but her entrée - and the entire episode - was so contrived that it was ludicrous.

 

Yes, Kyle is so discomfited about summarizing her bestie's past tell-all cash-in exploits because the OJ affair (oops, I wrote 'affair'; where's Eileen and the diction police?) was "creepy" but she can't wait to breathlessly speculate about whether or not Kathryn knows Faye not five minutes after Kathryn materialized.

 

(For anyone interested in greater details about the OJ story in general, I'd strongly recommend Jeffrey Toobin's The Run of His Life. Yes, it's the basis for the forthcoming sensationalized FX adaptation, but it's a riveting work of journalism by a laureled staff writer for The New Yorker. Kathryn was actually mentioned in the suicide note that OJ left before he took off on the infamous white Bronco chase; he exhorted Marcus Allen to cherish/value his marriage and wife. Faye Resnick makes several recurring appearances throughout the saga. Although she presented herself to the media as Nicole's "best friend," none of the Browns had ever met her and she seems like the kind of pal most urbanite twentysomething women accrue: you party with them, have an intense but finite camaraderie, and rarely see them in the daylight. Faye was thrown out of her boyfriend's house for freebasing cocaine shortly before the murders and briefly stayed at Nicole's Brentwood condo before entering rehab. She spoke with Nicole on the telephone the night of the slayings and Johnny Cochran suggested throughout the trial that Nicole and Ron Goldman were dispatched by drug dealers to whom Faye owed money. For her part, Faye wrote the salacious Diary of a Life Interrupted, in which she claimed she and Nicole dabbled in same-sex experimentation with each other and obviously made other sordid allegations like that involving Marcus Allen and Nicole's other supposed sexual partners. She then, of course, spread her legs for Playboy and tried to profiteer further with a second book and turns on Larry King in which she asserted that OJ was out to kill her. I believe, as well, that Marcia Clark noted that Faye actively tried to evade attempts by the prosecution to question/enlist her.)

 

Similarly, Kyle can wax indignant about how she's questioned about Kim - the sibling for whom she got a spot on the show, whose alcoholism she herself introduced into the narrative, and with whom she's had conflict that has been the foundation for most of her own story arc over the course of the entire series - but then in the next breath wonder why Lisa doesn't want to share all of her own personal demons in front of the cameras?

 

And Eileen was so, so mortified and offended by Lisa's diction (because, someone think of the children!) that she revived the subject not once, not twice, but three times over the course of several days and thus ensured that the dispute would not just make it to air but also likely several episodes?

 

As for the sudden revelations about domestic abuse, I'm just going to say it: they may be - and probably are - true, but that was pure performance on Eileen's part. A very technically proficient performance but ersatz and disingenuous nonetheless.

 

And, if I'm being cynical, quite possibly one specifically devised for Kathryn's intro. Because, of course, as compelling and complex as the OJ imbroglio was with its unique intersectionalities of privilege, race, and gender politics, it was ultimately and originally a tragedy of spousal abuse and the misogyny that pervades contemporary American society.

[njbchlover]

So, one of my least favorite episodes...we had to listen to more, more and more talk about Kim, more talk about Brandi, and see the morally corrupt Faye Resnick....three things I was hoping would be gone this season.

 

Not only that, more hyper activity from Bethenny, and her giving her holy blessing to Erica on Erica's music career.  

 

Geez!!!  

[Trooper York]

I don't know. I kind of enjoy when Lisa and Ken sit around and recap the episode. 

 

[mbaywife123]

This just makes me like her more.

Me too. She is who she is with no apologies (nor should ther be any).

She just brushes off the other ladies like a crumb on her coat.

[ryebread]

This just makes me like her more.

 

Me, too.  Unfortunately she seems like the type of woman who isn't going to turn around and dish about her experience as a HW, once she's gone. 

 

I hope I'm wrong.  But there's a reason, I think, that the internet isn't flooded with Erika Girardi family vacation pics, history, tweets, instagrams.  Except for this foray into RHOBH, which she doesn't seem to be enjoying, Erika G. seems to be a fairly private person.  Different story for Erika Jayne. 

 

There's a side of me that hopes she doesn't sink to the level of her backstabby castmates and spill what she was REALLY thinking during filming. But it would be so good.  She had Beth's number on Day One and it was funny to watch the wheels spinning in her head as she watched the 2 Lisas tonight.

Edited January 20, 2016 by ryebread

[BlackMamba]

Hmm this ep was more filler than anything but had some interesting bits.

 

First off, I like that Erika didn't allow Bethenny's opinions and trying to cause unnecessary drama bother her.  Yet I found it funny she actually said the other women like Kyle and LVP are obsessed with Brandi.  Umm what?  Girlfriend, did you not watch the last handful of seasons with Brandi into why those women can't stand her.  You'll know soon enough about Brandi if she ever feels like you have betrayed her.  

 

Kyle got on my damn nerves tonight.  She was completely inconsistent of if she wanted to talk about Kim or not through this episode.  She really pissed me off in her talking head when she said the other women in the group were just being nosey but Faye is a genuine friend enough to care about her problems.  Really bitch???  These women in the group, since season 1, have put up with your sister's addiction on and off camera and you think they are just being nosey.  Come on now Kyle - STOP IT!  

 

Then we get Lisa R, sweet mother, what has happened to this woman.  Last year she came out guns blazing and was a truth cannon.  And now this season she's turning on the phony card so she won't lose any Hollywood friends, particular Kyle.   She has so much to say in her confessionals but when she gets around the other women she doesn't want to express it all of sudden.  Fake.  Just be a keep it real kind of bitch, LisaR.  

 

Eileen telling the women she was in an abusive relationship showed a sign of strength to me.  Yet I don't know what she quite meant when she said "When people see a person like me they don't think that."  Umm Eileen abuse comes in all walks life it just doesn't come with economic class or how you look.  Anyone can be subjected to a violent relationship.  Just saying.

 

And here we have Kathryn the Aviva RHONY clone lol.  No, but, I find it hard to believe she didn't know most of the women she was talking to besides LIsa R and considering the history with her once husband Marcus Allen and OJ/Nicole, yeah right.  Yet Lisa R and Kyle seemed to be on the same page to pot stir between Faye and Kathryn.  Lisa R couldn't wait to bring up OJ while the cameras were rolling.  Then Kyle talking about "the book" Faye wrote about Nicole and OJ and how OJ lost it.  Kyle then wanted to know so bad if Kathryn knew who Faye was.  Kathryn clearly didn't give Kyle the response she was expecting and you could tell it didn't sit well with Kyle one bit that no one knew the amazing and wonderful Faye Resnick.

 

Again decent episode wasn't much here but next week should be good.

SHUT UP KEN! Jesus Christ why are you even there? Fucking asking for clarification about a conversation he's not part of, just get off my screen.

And your little dog too!

 

Where is Nene Leakes to tell Ken he needs to stop hanging with the women and being in women drama?

[Lassus]

Kim, your experience with your sister is not exactly the most unique thing that has happened in your own county this week, I'd imagine.  Stop pretending you're some kind of special snowflake of a tortured family.

[ryebread]

First off, I like that Erika didn't allow Bethenny's opinions and trying to cause unnecessary drama bother her.  Yet I found it funny she actually said the other women like Kyle and LVP are obsessed with Brandi.  Umm what?  Girlfriend, did you not watch the last handful of seasons with Brandi into why those women can't stand her.  

 

I took it as Erika saying, that these women clearly hate Brandi's guts, why do they feel such a need to keep talking about her?  It's like they're obsessed. 

 

They've said everything there is to say about her - multiple times. We know it all, now shut up.  Or at least find something new about her to talk about.  Strike that.  I don't wanna hear about Brandi, at all.  Don't wanna hear about Kim.  Or Yolanda.

[missy jo]

I'm team LVP. There's nothing wrong with not crying every ten minutes and vomiting your feelings all over everyone.

[ryebread]

I'm team LVP. There's nothing wrong with not crying every ten minutes and vomiting your feelings all over everyone.

 

True.  But Kyle was right about LVP.  She's Bobby Fischer.  And it was funny to see Kyle call her out again tonight. 

 

With age comes wisdom.  With Moe's money comes confidence.  Maybe Kyle is about one season away from telling Lisa to take a bloody, flying leap. 

[missy jo]

Lisa LVP is a typical Virgo, from the stiff upper lip to the organized closet, lol.

[mbaywife123]

Lisa and Ken are starting to seem like granny and grandpa who bring their damn dog when they come to stay at your house during the holidays.

[zoeysmom]

So the geniuses at Bravo thought the correct thing to do was dredge up a bunch of very old OJ nonsense.  Of course the American Horror Story-People vs. OJ Simpson premiering on Tuesday, February 2nd at 9pm-nice of the morons at Bravo to give it a three week lead in. 

 

No more OJ ever on RHOBH.

[Rahul]

9000+ explant surgeries and Our Lady of Lemons, Yolanda Hadid-Foster was the worst one by far. Of course! 

Let's not forget this woman "broke her back" during childbirth. Cannot wait for LVP to call ¥oFo out for alleging her two spawn that aren't international modeling sensations are likewise inflicted with the Lyme's.

[BlackMamba]

So the geniuses at Bravo thought the correct thing to do was dredge up a bunch of very old OJ nonsense.  Of course the American Horror Story-People vs. OJ Simpson premiering on Tuesday, February 2nd at 9pm-nice of the morons at Bravo to give it a three week lead in. 

 

No more OJ ever on RHOBH.

 

But of course!!! Andy is getting promotion for tv movie.  It all makes sense now.

[Lassus]

I like Kathryn.  Way better than Erika, who strikes me as utterly boring.  It's probably her shtick, which I consider to be, well, old.

[islandgal140]

It must be exhausting to be Yolanda's friend. To be judged by how often you visit, show concern, make her a priority and swoop in and pick her up on a private plane is really just ridiculous. Thank goodness her cancer ridden mother doesn't hold her by those standards or else she would be judged as a shitastic daughter.

 

I'm surprised Yolanda only had pictures. I was fully expected her to whip out a mason jar with her leaky titty. Expected it to be in prime position, under spotlight in the CVS closet.

 

I just learned there is something I care less about than Kim drama or Brandi talk -- drama about the 2 decades old OJ trial. What the hell made Bravo want to plum those depths? I don't give a good kitty about that shit!! I especially don't give a damn about the nasty hotbed Peyton place'esque goings on with those chicks. Nope.

 

Kyle, knowing and being BFFs with Faye ain't something to brag about. I'd deny Faye too.

 

Kyle and Lisar are so damn messy and obvious. Really ridiculous given that they are actors.

 

Please Lisar, tell me more about how affected and hurt and distraught you are over Kim's situation or better yet - shut your gaping piehole. She just comes across as so insincere when she talks about Kim.  

 

Lisar you a damn liar or your ass needs to get yourself to the nearest LensCrafter - that woman does not look the exact same. It is okay to think she looks great but the exact same and throw up the double middles? Muck mouth, bye!  That being said, I'm kinda interested if new chick is gonna take on the morally bankrupt Resnick. 

 

Eileen dated Marcus too? He really made the rounds and he really does have a type. 

Edited January 20, 2016 by islandgal140

[BlackMamba]

Eileen dated Marcus too? He really made the rounds and he really does have a type.

Blonde and more legs than a bucket of chicken.

Edited January 20, 2016 by BlackMamba

[ryebread]

I like Kathryn.  Way better than Erika, who strikes me as utterly boring.  It's probably her shtick, which I consider to be, well, old.

 

I think Erika is boring because Erika is bored. 

 

Can't tell if I like Kathryn yet.  She was a little overzealous when she jumped out of the gate to tell us her hubs is 9 years younger and how 99.9% of the women she offers that information to, pump their fists and say, "Yesssss."  But if she can shine some more light on the ickiness of Faye Resnick, I'll do a little fist pumping, too.

[lunastartron]

Ummm . . . Maybe Kathryn should have asked Eileen, "well, did those dates you had with Marcus happen to occur during our or (any of) your own marriage(s)?"

[swankie]

And not the best advertising for Pump that they have to leave to go to another bar to get a cold drink.

 

 

Also that sweaty, discolored, wrinkled Pump shirt they kept showing of the wait staff.  I kept thinking, "BO!"

 

It's not just any implant leak, but the largest.  She did post an xray of her leakage on instagram but I can't seem to find it now.  Really wanted to see if it was all the way to her collarbone.

 

 

I know!  It cracked me up when Erika said, "Over 9000 of these operations and yours was the worst!"  I know she didn't mean for it to be, but it sounded almost snarky.  LOL!

[Umbelina]

That whitish or "ashes of roses" lipstick Lipsa was wearing just made her mouth look more like an anus.  What the hell, did she just have that upper lip plumped into looking even more like a droopy diaper?

 

Kyle lost the poll on WWHL, or rather, won it, I think it was "who is biggest liar?"

 

I'm glad Erika was engaging a bit more.

[breezy424]

Was it my ears or did Yo say 'empaty'?

 

I'll go over to the corner.  I really enjoyed this episode.  First of all, we only had a few minutes of Yo and the worst case of silicone leakage in the world.  And no Yo, you're not an intelligent women.  And there was a lot less of Beth, the world's expert on everything.

 

I am liking Erika more.  Maybe because Erika Jane wasn't on this episode.

 

Lisa will never allow herself to be vulnerable and that says a lot about Lisa.  Nope.  She's not going to say what can keep her up at night.  I could never be friends with her.  She's not a down to earth person.  Oh, and Ken, go hang out with your 'friends' or something.  And I'd put a bowl of water out for Giggy and tell Ken the dog can hang out on the floor like a dog.  He is a 'dog'.  I love dogs but really?  I get that Lisa and Ken are animal lovers but really?  Yup, Kyle was kind of annoyed.  I'd be more than annoyed.  Just like when they brought Giggy to Adrienne's and Giggy was given water out of the gold trimmed glasses at the table.  Either get a babysitter or accept the fact that it's a 'dog'.

 

I get why Eileen brought up the domestic abuse.  I read her blog.  She wants to get it out there.  Good for her.

 

Like it or not, LIsar is a good production soldier.  It's her job to bring up 'stuff'.  She's making her paycheck.

 

How many times did we have to see 'Pump'  at the doggy charity.  Yeah, production company.  It was at Pump.  The same production company for Vanderpump Rules.  Stop shoving it in our faces.

 

Loved Kyle and Camille on WWHL.  Camille will be back next season.  She's ready.  She didn't actually say it but if she wants to, it's gonna happen.  Mauricio's anniversary gift to Kyle were gorgeous.