S06.E07: Pretty Mess

[nexxie]

Yeah I really don't understand why she drags him around all the time. She walks him around like a dog, which is funny because he drags the dog around. He is a strange man, he seems like a loser.

I'm glad you mentioned Lisa walking Ken around like a dog and him dragging around a real dog - that's exactly how I've been seeing those three lately. As I've said before, imo Lisa is a true narcissist, and they often have escorts/enablers by their side to play assigned roles. In this case, if anyone ever actually dared to ask Lisa "anything" Ken would swoop in like those flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz to protect the queen/witch. (We've seen him do that before.)

Lisa coos to the dog ("Oh you little sex monster. You sexy boy.") in a way Ken could only wish she'd speak to him - and he totes Giggy around like a child's security blanket. Both Lisa and Ken anthropomorphize their animals - their concern seems to be how the animals make them feel, not the other way around.

Interesting couple to watch - but I would never trust them.

Edited January 13, 2016 by nexxie

[zoeysmom]

Mohamed Hadid is a real estate developer, former husband to Yolanda of course and father to her three children. He's wealthy, so I get it. The other guy that Ken Todd is 'supposedly' guy-friends with, Martin Genis is somewhat of a mystery. Apparently he's connected to the well-to-do Beverly Hills rich in some way. To me he always seems to be a 'hanger-on-r' that magically appears at all the housewives social functions holding a glass. He was even in the limo when Kim and Kyle had their huge fight and the reveal of Kim's alcoholism. So, who the heck is he really? He did a five second cameo (holding a drink of course) in an Indy movie called The Madame.So now my brain goes to the dark side wondering if Martin is the local boy-whore servicing all the lonely and unhappy rich Beverly Hills wives. Or, maybe he's the local cocaine connection. It's better than we don't know more about Martin or Mohammed because they don't mean anything to anyone here and nobody cares.  LOL!

Martin is a real estate agent that works for Mohamed.  That is his calling in life.

[phoenix780]

I got the impression Bethenney's dress code was just a certain level of formality, and for a dinner party...I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

With Erika- I can see why she'd be popular among us gays (or at least the portion of us who occasionally hit the club).  Her song sounded danceable, from what they played; she'll come out to the club and be outrageous, which seems like a good time; and when she's all done up she looks like a drag queen, imho, and I think she's tapping into that element a bit.  I wouldn't say she's special or unique, which was Bethenney's basic point, but I get it.  She's a solid mid-level club/festival performer, maybe slightly more because of the chart hits.  

 

Also, I'm not starting to love her on the show because I think she's relatable somehow, or because of the "inner bad girl" stuff.  I think her line delivery is fantastic and she's generally entertaining to watch.  I can pop my corn and sip my wine (I'm classy like that) and have a good laugh or two.  

 

It might kind of be the same with Eileen.  She's a great pearl-clutcher, far as I'm concerned.  I guess she could give more, based on previews she might, but I'm down for a solid reaction shot, especially when it sometimes lines up with mine.

[Duke2801]

bichonblitz, on 13 Jan 2016 - 1:35 PM, said:

She's also trying to go for that young, moist,dewy skin look that nobody past the age of 30 has naturally and she only comes off looking greasy. Only Jennifer Lopez's make up artist knows how to do that look.

 

I thought Kyle's skin looked pretty dewey in that scene with Bethenny. 

 

Old news, petty and stupid but I find Lisar's whole mouth situation abhorrent to look at. There was a profile view at the wine tasting that just made me shudder. It is like a prolapse in progress. At least she has the sense not to wear bold lipstick, especially red.

 

 

Ha yea I guess I must have become used to looking at her over-inflated lips because I don't think about it anymore.  However, a few weeks ago, Mr. Duke (who stays as far away from anything HW related as he can) came in while she was on screen and commented that she "literally had an anus for a mouth."  (and then I had to go into my diatribe about the word literally, but I digress...) But (heh) the point being is that her lips are terrible and it's sad that she felt the need to do that to herself.

[kokapetl]

Erika's career has got to be more of a hobby than a job. Her "eight disco hits" were on charts that mostly consist of mainstream pop stars' dance remixes. I can't imagine many people buy her singles because they heard one of her songs while they we're on goofballs at a gay club. Mainstream music artists with far more success often have nothing to show for it, I doubt Erika is making money.

Erika's dermatologist is a miracle worker. I wonder how much of her unflappable image is due to the Botox paralysis of most of her face.

Edited January 14, 2016 by Kokapetl

[Umbelina]

Ha yea I guess I must have become used to looking at her over-inflated lips because I don't think about it anymore.  However, a few weeks ago, Mr. Duke (who stays as far away from anything HW related as he can) came in while she was on screen and commented that she "literally had an anus for a mouth."  (and then I had to go into my diatribe about the word literally, but I digress...) But (heh) the point being is that her lips are terrible and it's sad that she felt the need to do that to herself.

Maybe that's why Harry married her. 

[zoeysmom]

Kim must be taking the mention of her on the show better than anticipated:  https://www.instagram.com/p/BAcWC5Qv9at/?taken-by=kylerichards18  What a lovely message to Kyle.  Kim looked so different about a year later on Nanny and the Professor.

[missy jo]

This episode was a tutorial on why viewers should hate Bethenny as much as I do. Obnoxious, condescending, and on the verge of an Adderall overdose.

It was obvious where this was going as soon as she trashed the magazine "Bella" on the phone to Kyle. Good luck getting your "branding" in there now! Or any goodwill from the Housewives' other queen bee, Lisa, for that matter.

Then she does some shit-talking Internet research about Erika with Kyle, while sitting splay-legged on her couch, so she can get her first digs in. And I guess standing outside the bathroom door of her shed calling her names was purposeful too (?).

In spite of her failed talk show, Bethenny always acts like an interviewer with the right to decide the topic of every conversation while others pay attention and answer.

Erika responded a lot better than I would if some bitch took it upon herself to review my work and tell me how to do it! I don't even like Erika, but she handled Bethenny well, as one would a zoo animal.

PS Bethenny looked like shit.

Edited January 13, 2016 by missy jo

[zulualpha]

I don't get why gays love her [Erika Jane] though?  Is watching a surgically enhanced woman crawl around and do half assed stripper moves some kind of thing?  I'm serious about this question, it may sound snarky, but it's not.  I really want to know, and don't get it.  WHAT is the deal with that dynamic?  Help!

As a devoted fan of RuPaul's Drag Race all I can say is that Erika Jane has many of the attributes of a drag queen and Ru does the same sort of music.  OTOH I'm pretty tapped in to the gay culture of my city, I've been to a couple pride events and drag shows and I've never heard of Erika Jane.  Not a whisper. 

To Lisa:  OK, try to coax SOME kind of life from that stiff robot Eileen!  For God's sake we are paying that woman a fucking FORTUNE!  Bring up the adultery!  Do whatever it takes to get something we can use on camera!  You can do it Lisa!

You nailed it Umbelina.  I think Lisa was trying to get some reaction from Eileen as well as Erika when she was talking to Erika in the limo and the episode when she asked how Eirka's husband was "in the sack".  Sorry to say she totally struck out with both of them!  She kept saying - ask me anything- which I took to mean, why don't you engage with me? but neither one would. 

Edited January 13, 2016 by zulualpha

[LydiaOhLydia]

So I really liked the episode.  It reminded me of the first season where we saw extensive luxury, house porn, private jets and nice parties but most of all the catty comments and little slights and digs.  Oh and I almost forgot-dirty dancing.  Season 1 it was Camille but Erika has it down to a science.  The comments were cutting but not Brandi or Carlton like with cussing and just ridiculous over acting.

 

First off, I think what offended Eileen was the use of the word affair.   Kyle tried to stop the conversation but LVP persisted.  I thought maybe Lisa was feeling a little of the alcohol that evening. Clearly, those listening were a little uncomfortable.  If Eileen was trying to get an apology from LVP, maybe she should not throw out a string of disclaimers and minimizers before getting to the heart of the matter.   Just a little note to all of the ladies-no couple is on their first marriage. Kyle, Ken, Harry, Erika, Tom, Yolanda, David, Eileen, Vince, the new chick have all been divorced. So no one should act superior.  I think Eileen is uncomfortable because, as she said last year at the Reunion it affects her child.  First there was the affair and then I believe Vince and Eileen pretty much got married in the delivery room.  It is Eileen's call how the gossip plays out on her children and apparently Vincent's ex-wife.  So questions about length of marriage and what not, are a little touchy.   Had LVP not brought it up it would not be all over the news again. 

 

The contradictions are also interesting and Kyle owned up to them.  Kathy Hilton and Bethenny are good friends  (Kathy and Bethenny were pictured out to lunch last month, wearing stupid little hats) so she does understand the Richards' sister dynamic.  Not as a co-worker but as a former employee and later friend to  Kathy's and friend to Kyle.  My guess is Bethenny was around for rehabs one and two with Kim.  Some interesting tidbits in the Bethenny/Kyle conversation. 

 

All I can say is Bethenny made Faye Resnick and Allison duBois  seem meek at her dinner party.  What a twit.  Glad she ripped her shorts open of her hideous outfit.    I don't think anyone felt comfortable around her once she started on Erika.  And her shack/bar is really tacky it looked like an outhouse.  I loved Ken's expression when he took it all in and Bethenny asked his impression-he looked like he had smelled something left in  an outhouse. Safe to say Lisar won't be rushing back for a dinner at Bethenny's anytime soon. 

 

My impression is LVP feels she only puts out what she thinks others can take. And she is not about to apologize for it.  LVP has been asked to stop a conversation before and it took a child to get her to stop.  So it is not quite as simple as -"I don't want to talk about it."  LVP is all about transparency and I don't think she thought she was alienating Eileen.  I guess I will find out on WWHL.

 

David and the comment about Ken's tits being bigger than Yolanda. . .what a guy.  Yolanda looked so hurt.  As predicted Yolanda had the worse case of silicone leakage ever.

 

I hope the rest of the season carries on in this fashion.  More episodes like tonight and fewer Yolanda and Kim moments.  Next week might be fun with the book signing and store opening in the Hamptons.

Agree! It really dismisses validity of her complaint before it's even spoken. I use to do this with my sisters when younger (peacemaker) so I get why she does it but it does come across as needing reassurance rather than requiring an apology. Lisa V is not the coddling type. 

Edited January 13, 2016 by LydiaOhLydia

[HumblePi]

I'm glad you mentioned Lisa walking Ken around like a dog and him dragging around a real dog - that's exactly how I've been seeing those three lately. As I've said before, imo Lisa is a true narcissist, and they often have escorts/enablers by their side to play assigned roles. In this case, if anyone ever actually dared to ask Lisa "anything" Ken would swoop in like those flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz to protect the queen/witch. (We've seen him do that before.)

Lisa coos to the dog ("Oh you little sex monster. You sexy boy.") in a way Ken could only wish she'd speak to him - and he totes Giggy around like a child's security blanket. Both Lisa and Ken anthropomorphize their animals - their interest seems to be in how the animals make them feel, not the other way around.

Interesting couple to watch - but I would never trust them.

Well ha-ha on Lisa because Bella magazine meant to showcase Giggy on their cover and came out with another redacted version the very next week. Sorry Lisa, we know the news might have been a little 'ruff ruff' to take.

Edited January 13, 2016 by HumblePi

[ScoobieDoobs]

I think both Lisa V and Bethenny know what BRAVO wants, and are also good at listening to instructions.  I picture producers pulling them aside before taping.

 

To Lisa:  OK, try to coax SOME kind of life from that stiff robot Eileen!  For God's sake we are paying that woman a fucking FORTUNE!  Bring up the adultery!  Do whatever it takes to get something we can use on camera!  You can do it Lisa!

 

To Bethenny:  Do your thing Bethenny, just be you, but so far, we hired this sex kitten gold digger to bring some life/controversy back and she's coming off as Miss Manners!  Try to get SOMETHING we can use here!  She's boring the fuck out of us!  Her!  We expected at least a few ripples and instead it's dead calm, which means dead air.  HELP US!  We'll pay you!

 

Yup, you just pointed out the serious prob going on this season.  It's mostly dull as fuck cuz there's nobody here to cause conflict.  And the producer moves to prod the Lisas (Rinna's comments on Yo -- and Pump to Kyle on Kim & in this ep to Eileen on her marriages & affairs) have landed with a thud.  As far as Bethenny goes, unless they're doing a 10-part thing in the Hamptons, I assume (and really hope) she won't be back again.  I get the awful feeling they're desperately depending on Kim to bring the drama.  Ugh.  

 

Yeah, keep telling us how much you care about your sister, Kyle, while Satan Andy sets her up for the slaughter before our eyes, for his precious ratings & to prop up & save the show.  Buckle up & get ready for the predictable ugliness to begin.  What's even more predictable is Kyle standing by doing nothing while her sister is skewered.  Ew.

 

While I'm OK with Erika, I'm not exactly sure what she brings here.  I'm pretty over the Erika Jane stuff, not that it ever interested me in the first place.  OK, so what else have ya got to give us, hun?  Seems like not much. 

Edited January 13, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[Umbelina]

Agree ScoobieDoobs, both Kim and Brandi are coming back for at least an appearance, and it's not hard to figure out why.

 

Lisa and Bethenny gave it their all, BRAVO's little shit-stirring darlings. 

 

At least Eileen showed some sign of life last night, the outrage over anyone talking about her real life (uh, honey, that's why they are paying you $750,000 for a few months work, not to watch you make lunch for your kid) and the surprising interest in doing sexy stripper moves like Erika, which to me really screams "God I miss SEX!  Do you think this might work on Vince?  I can't get divorced again, I just can't, and that new guy on the soap is looking HOT!  Also, Vince just may have hit the jackpot with his daddy's money, is it really prudent to leave him now?  I'm closer to 60 than 50 now, I want to retire SOMETIME!  That whole 50/50 on the expenses is biting me in the butt with this inheritance thing.  Maybe if Erika teaches me some moves I can get out of that?  Or at least get Vince to look at me the way he did when we were married to other people.  I need SEX!"

 

ha.

 

ETA

Sorry, I started channeling Eileen there. 

Edited January 13, 2016 by Umbelina

[LydiaOhLydia]

I've learned watching RH's, if someone is asked personal questions and refuses to answer, they are soon replaced. Lisa V is aware. I think her smirks while telling Eileen to' just say you don't want to talk about it' (as if that is acceptable on HW's), while adding in 'I've nothing to hide ask me anything' with both Eileen and Erika are telling. Lisa V knows in order to stay relevant you can't not talk about everything your asked. Grooming the new gals. Kyle gets the 'f my life with this contract' look when asked about Kim. She CAN'T refuse to talk about it or she'll be gone. She's found clever ways to imply she's not wanting to talk about it but gives just enough info to keep Andy salivating. Same with Yolanda. We are tired of seeing her tired, but she CAN'T refuse to talk about it. I believe Yolanda worked hard at keeping her struggles as private as possible until production gave her an ultimatum. jmo

[Umbelina]

OT, but I adore your screen name LydiaOhLydia! 

 

I'm still channeling Eileen, someone make it stop!  She's much more interesting in my head.  I wonder if she bought a few G-strings yet?

[Thumper]

Sorry, I hate the bickering and fighting that Andy evidently wants on this show.

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

The Answer To A Question No One Asked
What's Lisa really after in bringing up Eileen's infidelity? Does Bethenny dream about brands? And other not-so-burning questions from RHOBH.

[zoeysmom]

I just read Yolanda's blog-oh my.  She is sick again but managed to pull herself together to be taken to a birthday lunch with seven of her inner circle "real friends"   who have stood by her.  How many people does this woman need to be by her side?  Seven people, that is a person for every day of the week, plus a health advisor, her three children, a husband, her mother and assorted other people who aren't quite inner circle rated.  Maybe she is exhausted from all the constant "support". 

 

There was no mention of her dutiful husband, David "Leftie" Foster.  I guess the tit joke didn't sit well with her.  

[jennylauren123]

I don't think I'd ask someone how an affair got started. I mean, it's just not a good question. It's very intrusive. There are some questions that you don't ask if you have good manners, and that is one of them.

 

I guess Eileen could have countered with "How has Max been doing since his stint in rehab? Now, which drugs did he have a problem with?" but I don't think Eileen is mean in that way. She might be like me and started to answer Lisa's probing questions, got uncomfortable, and then couldn't figure out a graceful way to end the discussion.

 

Lisa crows that she's open, but really, there's not much interesting to say when you've been married to the same old codger for all of those years. 

[kassa]

I’ve been holding back on Erika because her alter ego repulses me, but she won EVERYTHING last night (with the exception of that awful padlock necklace).   LVP has met her match.  There’s a new alpha bitch in town and she is not amused.  And unfortunately for Lisa, she doesn’t appear to be somebody who runs hot and will make the kind of mistake that can be capitalized on (Bethenny), but someone who runs cold, and they’re far more dangerous. 

 

I do think that Eileen was playing up her wounded feelings when she could very easily have brushed off the topic with a laugh and a quip.  She’s been dealing with intrusive questions from the press and fans for decades; I’m sure she was fully capable of saying “oh, enough about that... how is Giggy doing?”

 

What I assume happened is that everybody has a sneaking suspicion that somebody in the cast has been assigned to come for them (because they've received their own assignments), and therefore there’s rampant paranoia about just about everything.  So any little ripple of any kind of anything is met with suspicion and they start circling each other warily.  It was fascinating to see Eileen and Lisa just circling, circling, refusing to give the other what she wanted.

 

Lisa is slipping, though – she actually said “it was just the two of us” as a means of brushing off Eileen’s concerns.  Does she think we don’t realize this is television?

 

Kyle’s blue and white outfit looked lovely on her and showed how slim she actually is!  Kyle, put whoever found you that outfit on salary!  It looked comfortable, too.

 

Nuts! I thought for sure we would get to see Yo's actual surgery. I thought she would insist on it being filmed!

 

 

You should watch Botched.  They take out implants every week (which never look as remotely as hideous as Yolanda’s barnacled disaster), and it’s freaky to see them pop out of small incision holes with a big thwuck!  I was stunned by how big Yolanda’s were.  She must really have nothing naturally to have been carrying those around.

[Umbelina]

Sorry, I hate the bickering and fighting that Andy evidently wants on this show.

I used to think that, still do to some extent.  Table flipping and wig pulling get ratings, that's why RHOA and RHNJ are still the top rated HW shows.

 

However, when I really think about it, where it comes to RHBH?  BRAVO let Brandi and Kim go.

 

I think what Bravo WANTS is some sense of "real" in their highly paid "real" housewives.  They can't get viewers simply by watching them promote their products, or go shopping, or give fake charity teas, or make sandwiches for the kids.  People change the channel.

 

So what is "REAL" about these women?

 

Lipsa ignores her parents, posed for Playboy twice, has kept her twat groomer for years, and is probably married to a gay or bi guy, who WISELY exited stage left this season, her pals are Kardashians and many are directly related to the whole OJ debacle, which will rear it's ugly head next week apparently.

 

Erika Jayne Who knows?  She likes to do sex shows and married a rich old guy, you'd think something interesting would happen on screen with her, but so far she's so bland geriatric patients could eat her without stomach upset.  Hey!  Maybe that's why he married her!

 

Kyle  Again, OJ/Kardashian connection, husband may or may not visit transsexual hookers, has horrible relationships with her sisters, oh, and has a formerly famous drug addled older sister, and the Paris Hilton fame.

 

Lisa  She isn't controversial really, hasn't done sex shows, has been married to the same guy forever, has questionable taste in at least show friends, has a beautiful  house, and follows Bravo's orders trying to get the other wives to DO SOMETHING. 

 

Yolanda  Kind of brought it for a while, engaged with them all, showed her ass (figuratively) but now seems to be there to be mocked about her illness, possibly because they are hoping for dirt about the divorce?

 

Eileen  On paper she seemed great, used to cameras in her face, messy personal life in the past, but boring as hell as far as "story."  I don't think they want her to flip a table, but they want more "reality" than she's given, which is probably why Lisa was prompted to bring up her affair again, especially since we saw Vince and Eileen bickering for the past few episodes.

 

Edited because this posted twice, how weird.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Umbelina

[tenativelyyours]

And six degrees of HWs separation strikes again!

 

1) Geragos owns the Capri

2) he is heading up a class-action suit against EOS, those round lip balms

3) the Kardashian Krumbs, led by Kris, are brand ambassadors for EOS

4) Kris was married to Robert who was on OJ's defense team

5) The OJ trial introduced us to the likes of Kato Kaelin and gross Faye Resnick

6) Faye is Kyle's bff 

 

I think you went in the wrong direction.

 

1.Erika knows Geragos

2.Geragos represented P. Diddy

3.P Diddy parties on Sonja's yacht

4.Sonja doesn't have a yacht

[pbutler111]

Bethany has some nerve to talk about upkeep with all the work she has had recently.

Other than the haircut... what work?

I can understand if Bethenny is secretly resentful of Erika. Say what you will about Bethenny, but there's no denying that she's clever and talented and has worked her skinny ass off for a very long time to get where she is now. Erika, on the other hand, married for money and then used her husband's wealth to buy herself a career (if that's what you want to call the gynecological exam set to music she calls her act). Any non-medical career that's almost entirely dependent on you stroking your vagina on stage in a see-through onesie in front of a couple hundred gay guys may not be looked upon with total admiration by anyone who actually works for a living.

I loved that it ended with Bethenny splitting those ugly pants because she couldn't drop it like Erika could.

She obviously did or her pants wouldn't have split. And of course Erika doesn't have that problem as she's used to making that move in a split-crotch onesie.

[Wings]

Lisa was asking when Eileen knew Vince was THE one, was it their first kiss on screen, their first make-out scene on camera......just when she knew she got butterflies from/with him. I didn't think the questions that intrusive or probing but I don't think Eileen heard anything past the first "affair" question. That 1 word "affair" made her hear something other than what Lisa was really asking, which was about their romance. Lisa used the wrong word and because of that Eileen shut down IMO.

 

I missed this subtlety.  Thanks.  Clearly Eileen is a little touchy on the subject since her marriage and affair did overlap.  She might as well just come clean with it and tell the love story part.  The truth will set you free, is an expression that holds wisdom. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

Didn't Bethenny suggest ways for Carole Radziwell to "brand widowry"? I think she's either somewhat joyless or her joy is marketing and branding. I don't know which but I think it prevents her from understanding that other people take more satisfaction in making their craft than in selling it. Also, Erika, by being on the show, IS branding Erika Jayne, and I suppose Beth is continuing to brand herself. 

 

Next time, on the Real Housewives of Self-Promotion...

[ivygirl]

Guess that bit of publicity for BELLA wasn't lost on SOME housewives! Look who kicked her agent into gear:

 

http://bellanyc.com/the-original-skinnygirl-bethenny-frankel-kicked-off-the-tastemakers-series-at-flywheel-sports/

[Wings]

I think Bethenny has had tons of fillers, botox and plastic surgery,  including what used to be her huge jaw bones.

 

 

I guess not as much as Erika though!  LOL!  Genes figure in, too.  I know she can look better than we saw last night.  At home watching it she probably thought the same thing.   What hair stylist puts red in the hair of someone with an olive undertone to their skin?  A bad one, that is who! 

Edited January 13, 2016 by wings707

[tenativelyyours]

Ha!  What hasn't she had done?

 

Breasts more than once.  She went really cheap the first time and had what looked like an attempt to re-purpose cinder blocks.  Then she got some real cash and went a bit more sculpted but still wrong size for her body frame.  Wrong size for the frame she should have not the scrawny self starved one she likes so much.  So even with the upgrade she looks like she should lying on her back in front of the White House drive protecting the President from terrorists trying to drive a car bomb onto the grounds.

 

 

 

Work around the eyes more than once.  Surgery that is.  Right before the talk show and then after.  I think the first time might have just been to get rid of her tendency to have pouches and dark circles.  The second she had fixed so she didn't look like she was trying to be an ambiguously Asian character for Halloween.  You can see it if BRAVO still has the post talk show flop appearance on the Andy Raging Asshole Cohen show.

 

Jaw shortened.  Okay; but in a before and after compare it just looks odd.  Had her nose trimmed from early pics it seems.  Lots and lots of filler.  She has almost as many faces as Patti Stanger did comparing the talking heads and talk show appearances during her return to the NY show you could take all her different faces and cover a regional dairy's milk cartons with one each and not run out. 

[pbutler111]

It was obvious where this was going as soon as she trashed the magazine "Bella" on the phone to Kyle. Good luck getting your "branding" in there now!

With a total "reach" of less than 365,000 across all media, why would Bethenny care if her brand was in it or not? I'm pretty sure her empire will roll along just fine without the "exposure" in the little-circulated, hyper-local pages of Bella.

[islandgal140]

I get the awful feeling they're desperately depending on Kim to bring the drama.  Ugh.  

 

 

Oh and Brandi. Don't forget Brandi. I plan to rub Valtrex on my eyeballs as a preventative measure when her episode airs. 

 

 

I just read Yolanda's blog-oh my.  She is sick again but managed to pull herself together to be taken to a birthday lunch with seven of her inner circle "real friends"   who have stood by her.  How many people does this woman need to be by her side?  Seven people, that is a person for every day of the week, plus a health advisor, her three children, a husband, her mother and assorted other people who aren't quite inner circle rated.  Maybe she is exhausted from all the constant "support". 

 

There was no mention of her dutiful husband, David "Leftie" Foster.  I guess the tit joke didn't sit well with her.  

 

Yolanda be slick. She trying to get that pre-nup thrown out and that spousal support money because of her diminished brain capacity. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

Bethenny looked much better with some pregnancy fat on her face. Yes, she has/had a big jaw but it never looked "deformed" (her words) IMO. I know it's practically morbidly obese in housewife land, but she was only like 140lbs max while she was pregnant. I believe she never even wore maternity clothes IIRC. Which is to say she can still be a skinny girl without the haggard appearance. That's another thing--her brand is SkinnyGirl, not 000 fits into her toddler's clothes-girl (this is a real thing--she instagrammed herself wearing Bryn's top once). I don't think she gets that, either.

 

Edited January 13, 2016 by The Mighty Peanut

[freeradical]

Boy, I don't like Lisa VDP

I couldn't have said it better.

[mwell345]

 

This episode was a tutorial on why viewers should hate Bethenny as much as I do. Obnoxious, condescending, and on the verge of an Adderall overdose.

 

If I think back to season 1 of NY, Bethenny was witty and likable.   There' s such a hard edge to her now - maybe it's the failed marriage, maybe her success has gone to her head - I don't know. 

 

But I think she thinks she's still very witty  and that we're all just laughing at how amusing she is but she tries way to hard and it comes across as bitter and mean. 

 

Kudos to Erica for not having any of it.

[bichonblitz]

I thought Kyle's skin looked pretty dewey in that scene with Bethenny. 

 

Ok, then, maybe Kyle is using Jennifer Lopez's make up artist. 

 

Edited January 13, 2016 by bichonblitz

[missy jo]

Dammit, I'm pissed that B is in Bella, lol!

And yeah, she's had a ton of work done. On the NYC forums, we were trying to figure out how she got rid of her protruding jawbone.

[Wings]

I don't know Bethany much at all.  I watched her talk show for a short bit and didn't care for it, having nothing to do with her.  It was just not that good.  

 

I love LisaRs style of dress.  She looks fabulous in jeans and a funky T, I wish more of them would dress down, it is refreshing.  She also gave good advice to Eileen.  My like of her stops there, however.  She is okay and we do need a shit stirrer.  

 

Love me some LisaV!  She casts shade like no other.  I enjoy watching that.  They are all adults, speak up if something bothers you. I support her in that attitude and she did apologize.  If Eileen did not think it the apology was enough there is not much to do about that unless she wants to talk to Lisa more about it.  Let it go, I say. .  They all know the drama is producer driven so be prepared. 

 

People do ask personal questions when getting to know someone.  It is foolish of Eileen to think that her life is so private that no one knows about how she and Vince met and how that went down.  It is all over the internet.  Again, I say tell the truth without shame or blame.  It is not an uncommon happening to fall in love with someone while still married.  It is unfortunate but not evil.  

[Umbelina]

If Eileen valued her private life so much she would never have agreed to do this show.  Then again, she agreed before Dick Van Patten died*, and may have had no choice but to bring in some extra money, if this is true.  http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/01/11/blind-item-his-costly-addiction-is-out-of-control/

 

ETA *( IF Vince does inherit dad's money, either way, she may have felt she needed that cash)

Edited January 13, 2016 by Umbelina

[WireWrap]

I've learned watching RH's, if someone is asked personal questions and refuses to answer, they are soon replaced. Lisa V is aware. I think her smirks while telling Eileen to' just say you don't want to talk about it' (as if that is acceptable on HW's), while adding in 'I've nothing to hide ask me anything' with both Eileen and Erika are telling. Lisa V knows in order to stay relevant you can't not talk about everything your asked. Grooming the new gals. Kyle gets the 'f my life with this contract' look when asked about Kim. She CAN'T refuse to talk about it or she'll be gone. She's found clever ways to imply she's not wanting to talk about it but gives just enough info to keep Andy salivating. Same with Yolanda. We are tired of seeing her tired, but she CAN'T refuse to talk about it. I believe Yolanda worked hard at keeping her struggles as private as possible until production gave her an ultimatum. jmo

I disagree about Yolanda wanting to keep her LD struggles "private". I am not sure if you have ever seen her twitter or IG accounts because she post picture after picture of her getting IVs, laying in bed or lounging around in her fluffy white robe ALL the DANG TIME. LOL She does post/tweet about Gigi, Bella and occasionally Anwar but she post/tweets sickie selfies of herself and has done so for years.   

 

I missed this subtlety.  Thanks.  Clearly Eileen is a little touchy on the subject since her marriage and affair did overlap.  She might as well just come clean with it and tell the love story part.  The truth will set you free, is an expression that holds wisdom. 

Eileen said in her blog that she is leery about answering any questions about how she/Vince got together because of Brandi last season. So, even though she knows LisaV and hasn't had any problems with her, she doesn't trust her which makes me then question why and how she could say that she and Lisa were friends both in her blog and on the episode last night.

[Medicine Crow]

As a Canadian, I'm really disappointed with David Foster's rudeness, crudeness & general lack of empathy.  Just sayin'.

[WireWrap]

As a Canadian, I'm really disappointed with David Foster's rudeness, crudeness & general lack of empathy.  Just sayin'.

David has always struck me as someone that is locked inside their own mind, hearing music, creating music, very artistic but is very awkward/backward socially. IMO, he does not have "people skills" or any kind of "social graces", that his music genius controls most of his brain.

[ScoobieDoobs]

it is really too bad Yolanda wasn't able to be at dinner with Bethenny.  Bethenny could have resolved her Lyme Disease, solve her silicone situation and told Yolanda how David could improve his music productions.   

 

Oh ZM, thanks so much for the hearty chuckle this gave me!  

 

Um, so can Bethenny (with her oh-so-vast branding knowledge, which keeps her soooooooooo impressed with herself) help Kim overcome her various addictions?  Can Bethenny, with that fuckin' branding bullshit of hers, advise Brandi to get a decent personality so I don't hate her guts?  Ah, Bethenny, what can't you solve & accomplish with your branding knowledge?  Will she figure out a way to win the billion dollar lottery?  Yeah, right.

 

Is it possible for anyone to be more impressed by Bethenny than she is with herself?  I'm betting not.

[SnarkKitty]

 

With a total "reach" of less than 365,000 across all media, why would Bethenny care if her brand was in it or not? I'm pretty sure her empire will roll along just fine without the "exposure" in the little-circulated, hyper-local pages of Bella.

 

And yet, she weaseled her way in after all. LOL. She's not passing up any chances at being in any mag that another reality 'ho wife has been in. Hey, I'm not mad at her.

 

Yolanda be slick. She trying to get that pre-nup thrown out and that spousal support money because of her diminished brain capacity.

 

LMAO!

Edited January 13, 2016 by SnarkKitty

[Wings]

I disagree about Yolanda wanting to keep her LD struggles "private". I am not sure if you have ever seen her twitter or IG accounts because she post picture after picture of her getting IVs, laying in bed or lounging around in her fluffy white robe ALL the DANG TIME. LOL She does post/tweet about Gigi, Bella and occasionally Anwar but she post/tweets sickie selfies of herself and has done so for years.   

 

Eileen said in her blog that she is leery about answering any questions about how she/Vince got together because of Brandi last season. So, even though she knows LisaV and hasn't had any problems with her, she doesn't trust her which makes me then question why and how she could say that she and Lisa were friends both in her blog and on the episode last night.

 

 

I don't remember her tangle with Brandi about that.  Can you refresh my memory please? :>)

[motorcitymom65]

So far I am liking Erika, much to my surprise for some reason. There is something that is nagging at the base of my skull, however, and it's how much her overall attitude reminds me of early Brandi. The gal who said whatever she wanted, seemed to not fit in and and thus was judged by the more conformist HW's for some of her behavior. When she talked about not minding being compared to a prostitute because prostitutes are awesome, I heard Brandi in my head saying she wasn't a slut, but she wished she was. It seems like so much is about being shocking, like when Brandi would casually throw out how much fun a threesome would be, and then pivot to what a great mom she was (not that one excludes the other, just that she seemed to enjoy being two different things). Brandi also had the awesome comeback quip and was able to think really fast on her feet and put a person in their judgmental place in a hurry. It just feels so done to me - like we've seen it before. I wonder if Erika is just Brandi with a rich husband? The same things that seem to make Erika someone to root for are the things that had the audience gaga over Brandi.

[Giselle]

Lisa: You can ask me anything.

 

Sorry Dear, I don't need to ask you anything. The only thing less interesting than your raggedy assed, hairless mutt is your old, withered English puss.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Giselle

[Duke2801]

The Mighty Peanut, on 13 Jan 2016 - 5:12 PM, said:The Mighty Peanut, on 13 Jan 2016 - 5:12 PM, said:

Bethenny looked much better with some pregnancy fat on her face. Yes, she has/had a big jaw but it never looked "deformed" (her words) IMO. I know it's practically morbidly obese in housewife land, but she was only like 140lbs max while she was pregnant. I believe she never even wore maternity clothes IIRC. Which is to say she can still be a skinny girl without the haggard appearance. That's another thing--her brand is SkinnyGirl, not 000 fits into her toddler's clothes-girl (this is a real thing--she instagrammed herself wearing Bryn's top once). I don't think she gets that, either.

 

 

Ooooof I found her face especially hard to look at when she was pregnant.  That jaw was frightening. 

 

Beth has a lot going for her, but she doesn't have it all. I mean, the woman has loads of money and success, the daughter she always wanted, and a slim physique that many covet. And she's intelligent and witty (although that wit is often used in an unkind way). But she wasn't gifted in the whole... {picture me gesturing awkwardly with my hands in front of my face} facial area! 

 

Don't get me wrong- she is far from ugly! But she's just never going to be a great beauty, no matter how skinny she gets or how many procedures she does or doesn't have.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Duke2801

[WireWrap]

I don't remember her tangle with Brandi about that.  Can you refresh my memory please? :>)

It was at the dinner with Yolanda, LisaR and Eileen, where Brandi threw wine in Eileen's face.

[freeradical]

That's why people think preschool kids are funny, kids say the darndest things!

Brain damage, Traumatic Brain Injury, prenatal drug exposure, among many others, will do that to the brain. It's called, "executive control" (or lack of) and people with brain damage are unable to keep their thoughts in their head. It's associated with the anterior cingulate cortex. So yes, I'm saying Bethanny, somewhere somehow has brain damage, because even if she is doing this all for reality TV, she IS that person.

I'm telling you man..it's concerta or extended release adderall. Bethenny is ADD as hell. That probably helped her get where she is today. At some point you gotta take the pill to organize the thoughts. I don't even think she abuses it. I just think it makes her spew out ideas at one and one half time speed without a filter!

[Midnight Cheese]

Other than the haircut... what work?

I can understand if Bethenny is secretly resentful of Erika. Say what you will about Bethenny, but there's no denying that she's clever and talented and has worked her skinny ass off for a very long time to get where she is now. Erika, on the other hand, married for money and then used her husband's wealth to buy herself a career (if that's what you want to call the gynecological exam set to music she calls her act). Any non-medical career that's almost entirely dependent on you stroking your vagina on stage in a see-through onesie in front of a couple hundred gay guys may not be looked upon with total admiration by anyone who actually works for a living.

She obviously did or her pants wouldn't have split. And of course Erika doesn't have that problem as she's used to making that move in a split-crotch onesie.

 

RUN THAT BLEACHED HO OUT OF TOWN!

 

Wait, where were we?  And also (I keed, but not really), in which medical careers does one 'pat the puss' for an audience?  My doctors have been really stodgy!

[tenativelyyours]

Lisa: You can ask me anything.

 

Sorry Dear, I don't need to ask you anything. The only thing less interesting than your raggedy assed, hairless mutt is your old, withered English puss.

 

Yeah Ken interests me not at all.