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Wait - so the thrust (TM Carole Radziwill) of the performance is that she was prostituting herself to get out a traffic violation? 

But female liberation! Barter that puss for a pass on a $150 mail fine. 

Misogynists! Slut shaming! 

14 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

So 28 is really good right?  Last week that would have put her in the top four.  Gleb can hear the roar of the Lamborghini.

28 is pretty good for the second week. Scores escalate as the season progresses. It wouldn't hold weight in the final six or five, probably.

I thought she was far from the worst last week but pulling a 24 is sort of in the danger zone if you have some of the lowest name recognition in the competition or have negative name recognition.

The scores and vote tallies are now combined. It used to be a straight vote tally with the scores only there to guide the at-home audience until the season after Shannen Doherty - a relatively solid name as far as this show goes and technical talent who was partnered with Mark Ballas, a pro who customarily makes it to mid or endgame - got sent home in the first week.

ETA The effect of the change impacts the mediocre the most IMO. Having the scores in play prevents a terrible performer like Bristol Palin from winning but back when her mama was queen of American politics, she still had enough votes to get to the final three. 

Meanwhile, a true talent with zero name ID like Riker Lynch can make it to the end by scoring.

So the midpack with less celebrity consequently has a harder time. 

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23 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Wait - so the thrust (TM Carole Radziwill) of the performance is that she was prostituting herself to get out a traffic violation? 

But female liberation! Barter that puss for a pass on a $150 mail fine. 

Misogynists! Slut shaming! 

28 is pretty good for the second week. Scores escalate as the season progresses. It wouldn't hold weight in the final six or five, probably.

I thought she was far from the worst last week but pulling a 24 is sort of in the danger zone if you have some of the lowest name recognition in the competition or have negative name recognition.

The scores and vote tallies are now combined. It used to be a straight vote tally with the scores only there to guide the at-home audience until the season after Shannen Doherty - a relatively solid name as far as this show goes and technical talent who was partnered with Mark Ballas, a pro who customarily makes it to mid or endgame - got sent home in the first week.

ETA The effect of the change impacts the mediocre the most IMO. Having the scores in play prevents a terrible performer like Bristol Palin from winning but back when her mama was queen of American politics, she still had enough votes to get to the final three. 

Meanwhile, a true talent with zero name ID like Riker Lynch can make it to the end by scoring.

So the midpack with less celebrity consequently has a harder time. 

HOPE ErICKa goes soon. I can't stand her.

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Well, apparently the Erikas' got the memo about 'smiling' as could be seen tonight on DWTS.  Her segment was kind of creepy given that her son is a police officer. 

She did ok but I'm thinking she's going to be third to go home.  Well, unless Mr. T has a bigger fan base than I think.  On another note, I think the judges were a lot nicer than they were last week (of course with the exception of Len) but the Erickas' are just not that talented and the Erickas' are having a hard time dealing with it. 

I wonder where Mikey and the glam squad are sitting during the show.....

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24 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Well, apparently the Erikas' got the memo about 'smiling' as could be seen tonight on DWTS.  Her segment was kind of creepy given that her son is a police officer. 

She did ok but I'm thinking she's going to be third to go home.  Well, unless Mr. T has a bigger fan base than I think.  On another note, I think the judges were a lot nicer than they were last week (of course with the exception of Len) but the Erickas' are just not that talented and the Erickas' are having a hard time dealing with it. 

I wonder where Mikey and the glam squad are sitting during the show.....

Who doesn't love Mr. T?

I agree that the Ericka's segment was kind of creepy. 

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10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Well, apparently the Erikas' got the memo about 'smiling' as could be seen tonight on DWTS.  Her segment was kind of creepy given that her son is a police officer. 

She did ok but I'm thinking she's going to be third to go home.  Well, unless Mr. T has a bigger fan base than I think.  On another note, I think the judges were a lot nicer than they were last week (of course with the exception of Len) but the Erickas' are just not that talented and the Erickas' are having a hard time dealing with it. 

I wonder where Mikey and the glam squad are sitting during the show.....

Erika also got the memo to say Thank you as opposed to her usual "I appreciate that".

I realized the look that Erika has is not resting Bitch face but more I'm "SUPER tense"

I couldn't come up with a word other than creepy. Did she not watch True Detectives 2 - where Officer Paul was on forced leave because of a sexual harrassment suit by a civilian he pulled over for a ticket?

I think she will go home 4th or 5th. She might just have enough of her music fan base calling in to vote who don't even bother to watch the show to beat out Mr T and The Bachelor. I'm curious about the voting. Do you know if it is call in only or can people vote via text on online? Also on Twitter a bunch of people were saying they got their "12" votes in.

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31 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Erika also got the memo to say Thank you as opposed to her usual "I appreciate that".

I realized the look that Erika has is not resting Bitch face but more I'm "SUPER tense"

I couldn't come up with a word other than creepy. Did she not watch True Detectives 2 - where Officer Paul was on forced leave because of a sexual harrassment suit by a civilian he pulled over for a ticket?

I think she will go home 4th or 5th. She might just have enough of her music fan base calling in to vote who don't even bother to watch the show to beat out Mr T and The Bachelor. I'm curious about the voting. Do you know if it is call in only or can people vote via text on online? Also on Twitter a bunch of people were saying they got their "12" votes in.

I watched Erika and I am wondering if non-viewers of RHOBH get her message.  Do they think she is rich because she is a successful singer they have never heard of?  Do they get the sexuality thing?  I thought Erika's message was a little confusing.

Here is a lengthy bit from Nightline  http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/erika-jayne-real-housewives-dancing-stars-46413243  Tom is proud of just everything the Erikas do.

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13 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Here is ABC's voting site:  http://dwtsvote.abc.go.com/ You have until 8 pm tonight.  Phone voting closes an hour after show airs.

I guess to avoid robo calls they stop at 12.

So call in votes end on Mondays 11:00 PM eastern

Online votes end Tuesday 8:00 PM eastern. You have to register on ABC site to vote.

I guess there is a way around this to get more votes in. Some people have multiple cell phones - I have 3 and a landline and a work line. My work line I could go to multiple offices and conference rooms. Computer devices are similar.

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12 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I watched Erika and I am wondering if non-viewers of RHOBH get her message.  Do they think she is rich because she is a successful singer they have never heard of?  Do they get the sexuality thing?  I thought Erika's message was a little confusing.

Here is a lengthy bit from Nightline  http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/erika-jayne-real-housewives-dancing-stars-46413243  Tom is proud of just everything the Erikas do.

Wow...thanks!

The makeup she wore for her Nightline interview is the Erika I prefer. Erika is confusing on DWTS - because I'm pretty sure so far she has not mentioned her husband or her son. So I could see for a DWTS viewer who knows nothing about RH - they may think she made her money as a singer.

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50 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

So call in votes end on Mondays 11:00 PM eastern

Online votes end Tuesday 8:00 PM eastern. You have to register on ABC site to vote.

I guess there is a way around this to get more votes in. Some people have multiple cell phones - I have 3 and a landline and a work line. My work line I could go to multiple offices and conference rooms. Computer devices are similar.

I am thinking voting ends at 11 pm Pacific time as we don't even get the show until 11pm eastern time.  Maybe they block it time zone by time zone.

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7 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Erika also got the memo to say Thank you as opposed to her usual "I appreciate that".

I realized the look that Erika has is not resting Bitch face but more I'm "SUPER tense"

I couldn't come up with a word other than creepy. Did she not watch True Detectives 2 - where Officer Paul was on forced leave because of a sexual harrassment suit by a civilian he pulled over for a ticket?

I think she will go home 4th or 5th. She might just have enough of her music fan base calling in to vote who don't even bother to watch the show to beat out Mr T and The Bachelor. I'm curious about the voting. Do you know if it is call in only or can people vote via text on online? Also on Twitter a bunch of people were saying they got their "12" votes in.

Well, THAT would NEVER happen to "Officer Jayne".

I am sure that he is immune to anyone who would try to use sex to get out of a ticket.

Growing up knowing your mom is 'sexual' must take all the fun out of boinking?

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I never wanted anyone to see my mom drop me off at school - I wonder what she does to embarrass HER son?

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Posts from DWTS thread about Erika/Gleb:

Beyoncheyyy post :  Real Housewife: incredibly annoying. 

McManda post:  Gleb, please dial back on "teh sexxxxy". Erika has more potential in the standard dances, but she's definitely going to be held back if Gleb insists everything be super sexual.

Uke post: Erika:  Didn't like this. Too much focus on being provocative and not so much on foxtrot.  It just seemed trashy - but I guess that's Gleb's speed. Surprised all the judges liked it. Scored too high for my liking - Nancy did more actual dance (as opposed to Erika's posing) for the same score? Annoying.

Sinycalone post: Rashad, Normani, and David were the most fun to watch tonight, IMO.    Erika, Bonner, and Charo the most annoying.  Simone was disappointing.

Truthaboutluv post: I continue to forget Erika is even on this show and I totally missed Nancy and Artem.

TeeMo post: Any one of Erika, Charo or Mr. T can go home next and that will be fine with me though I'd prefer Mr. T stick around from that trio. 

Jennifer6973 post: I thought the Housewife lady was dancing a Tango the way she was dressed like a whore.

scenicbyway post: Erika needs to chill for abit.  Maybe she didn't realize you get judged on the show?  You can tell she hates the critique even when it's positive.

PBGamer89 post: Charo or Mr. T out next week likely. Erika maybe but she does have a bit of a following and got decent-ish scores.

RemoteControl88: Gleb is turning into a one trick sex pony. Didn't he play a cop when he was a pro with that other housewife with the poodle?  Also after the dance when they were talking with Erin, it was weird to go from that overly sexualized foxtrot.....to getting a pink onesie for his pregnant wife. 

Lady Calypso post: I guess I liked Erika's dance this week more than last week's. I still want to see something less sexy from her. She can dance, but can she perform a dance that's not about sex appeal? I'd like to see that. I know she won't be going next week since she can dance, so at the very least, I just want a different type of performance from her if she's sticking around for a few weeks.

I need Charo, Mr. T, and Erika to be the next gone in that order. Then, in my dreams, Bonner would leave next. 

friendperidot post: I liked Nancy, Normani, Rashad. Chris was the right one to leave, but Charo and Erika would have been fine too. They must have been rushed to get the elimination in tonight because they only called out the "bottom" two as possible eliminations. Charo really got on my nerves with all of her back talk, it just needs to stop. I didn't pay much attention to Erika's dance after they started with the car on the dance floor. And with all "cop" roles that Gleb has done, he's starting to remind me of the Village People! Is he going to go construction worker or full out Indian Chief next?

PhD-Purgatory15 post: He was never going to be long for this show, but I wouldn't have minded Chris outlasting Charo who is still operating on her entirely different wavelength and Erika who doesn't seem capable of emitting any warmth or joy.

stcroix post: I don't think we're going to see much that isn't sexy out of Erica.  She seems to be embracing her 'Erica Jayne' character and is on the show to promote her hits she has under this title.  I've seen her on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and shes more normal as just plain Erica.  When she puts her concerts on and in her videos, shes this sexy, outrageous character she calls Erica Jayne.  So....

crossover post: Erika is a good dancer.  I just don't care for the feel of Gleb's choreography.  It's too "in your face" for ballroom. 

renatae post: Erika and her "I make no apologies and I'm fabulous" routine are obnoxious and boring. Enough already. She can leave any time.

lindsayz28 post: Erika/Gleb- I liked the dance, but not for a foxtrot. i just want to see something elegant from her without the sexy. She still grates on my nerves though

vibeology post: Ericka was too much. I'm all for owning your sexuality, but don't tell me that's your only side. That's boring.

Ramble post: can not stand the real housewife and am indifferent to another gymnast.

Red Fiat post: Eryka and Gleb - Are we are just going to have full on sex all the time? She seriously bugs.  I hated the concept, didn't like her Foxtrot, sloppy footwork, no heel leads...  6

vavera4ka post: I'm afraid Gleb's taste level is somewhere around 4th basement level. Unicorns? lambo and sexy cop get out of ticket bedroom fantasy? what's next: plumber visit, or maybe "oooh I have no money and rent is due!", or Barbie and Ken...

The Unicorn is apparently Ericka's thing, but I'm putting the random cop story all on Gleb. He didn't exactly display a high taste level with Jana last year and now Ericka has been all sex two weeks in a row. I don't mind sexy or raunchy but you've got to have something else too for balance. They can't sex up Disney week and I do think they'll make it that far. (Next week is Vegas week, then Memorable Year, then Disney and Mr. T and Charo are probably going to go before her.) I really do wonder how Gleb would handle that.

iMonrey post: LOL. I can't be the only one who thinks Gleb looks tailor-made for gay porn.

RedFiat post: Gleb is definitely the king of no taste, but Eryka is also guiding her image and she wants to be the no excuses sex goddess.  I don't think it will be a stretch to guess their Vegas routine will be raunch overload..  They are so predictable.  It was that Foxtrot that made me turn the channel. 

TroopinFairy post: I also feel like Gleb is a "one trick pony" when it comes to his choreography. It always has to be sexy and it's getting to be overdone with me. I don't mind being sexy but, if it's all that you do... He's doing the same thing with Erika that he did with Janna.

Boyznkatz post: I wish Gleb would give up the sex schtick and just do classical dances. He has a partner who can actually dance, so why go there. Erica and Bonner can both go after Charo. I would keep Mr. T over any of them.

Jacyln88 post: This Erica is a raging witch . Can she at least force a smile through that Botox 

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4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Posts from DWTS thread about Erika/Gleb:

Beyoncheyyy post :  Real Housewife: incredibly annoying. 

McManda post:  Gleb, please dial back on "teh sexxxxy". Erika has more potential in the standard dances, but she's definitely going to be held back if Gleb insists everything be super sexual.

Uke post: Erika:  Didn't like this. Too much focus on being provocative and not so much on foxtrot.  It just seemed trashy - but I guess that's Gleb's speed. Surprised all the judges liked it. Scored too high for my liking - Nancy did more actual dance (as opposed to Erika's posing) for the same score? Annoying.

Sinycalone post: Rashad, Normani, and David were the most fun to watch tonight, IMO.    Erika, Bonner, and Charo the most annoying.  Simone was disappointing.

Truthaboutluv post: I continue to forget Erika is even on this show and I totally missed Nancy and Artem.

TeeMo post: Any one of Erika, Charo or Mr. T can go home next and that will be fine with me though I'd prefer Mr. T stick around from that trio. 

Jennifer6973 post: I thought the Housewife lady was dancing a Tango the way she was dressed like a whore.

scenicbyway post: Erika needs to chill for abit.  Maybe she didn't realize you get judged on the show?  You can tell she hates the critique even when it's positive.

PBGamer89 post: Charo or Mr. T out next week likely. Erika maybe but she does have a bit of a following and got decent-ish scores.

RemoteControl88: Gleb is turning into a one trick sex pony. Didn't he play a cop when he was a pro with that other housewife with the poodle?  Also after the dance when they were talking with Erin, it was weird to go from that overly sexualized foxtrot.....to getting a pink onesie for his pregnant wife. 

Lady Calypso post: I guess I liked Erika's dance this week more than last week's. I still want to see something less sexy from her. She can dance, but can she perform a dance that's not about sex appeal? I'd like to see that. I know she won't be going next week since she can dance, so at the very least, I just want a different type of performance from her if she's sticking around for a few weeks.

I need Charo, Mr. T, and Erika to be the next gone in that order. Then, in my dreams, Bonner would leave next. 

friendperidot post: I liked Nancy, Normani, Rashad. Chris was the right one to leave, but Charo and Erika would have been fine too. They must have been rushed to get the elimination in tonight because they only called out the "bottom" two as possible eliminations. Charo really got on my nerves with all of her back talk, it just needs to stop. I didn't pay much attention to Erika's dance after they started with the car on the dance floor. And with all "cop" roles that Gleb has done, he's starting to remind me of the Village People! Is he going to go construction worker or full out Indian Chief next?

PhD-Purgatory15 post: He was never going to be long for this show, but I wouldn't have minded Chris outlasting Charo who is still operating on her entirely different wavelength and Erika who doesn't seem capable of emitting any warmth or joy.

stcroix post: I don't think we're going to see much that isn't sexy out of Erica.  She seems to be embracing her 'Erica Jayne' character and is on the show to promote her hits she has under this title.  I've seen her on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and shes more normal as just plain Erica.  When she puts her concerts on and in her videos, shes this sexy, outrageous character she calls Erica Jayne.  So....

crossover post: Erika is a good dancer.  I just don't care for the feel of Gleb's choreography.  It's too "in your face" for ballroom. 

renatae post: Erika and her "I make no apologies and I'm fabulous" routine are obnoxious and boring. Enough already. She can leave any time.

lindsayz28 post: Erika/Gleb- I liked the dance, but not for a foxtrot. i just want to see something elegant from her without the sexy. She still grates on my nerves though

vibeology post: Ericka was too much. I'm all for owning your sexuality, but don't tell me that's your only side. That's boring.

Ramble post: can not stand the real housewife and am indifferent to another gymnast.

Red Fiat post: Eryka and Gleb - Are we are just going to have full on sex all the time? She seriously bugs.  I hated the concept, didn't like her Foxtrot, sloppy footwork, no heel leads...  6

vavera4ka post: I'm afraid Gleb's taste level is somewhere around 4th basement level. Unicorns? lambo and sexy cop get out of ticket bedroom fantasy? what's next: plumber visit, or maybe "oooh I have no money and rent is due!", or Barbie and Ken...

The Unicorn is apparently Ericka's thing, but I'm putting the random cop story all on Gleb. He didn't exactly display a high taste level with Jana last year and now Ericka has been all sex two weeks in a row. I don't mind sexy or raunchy but you've got to have something else too for balance. They can't sex up Disney week and I do think they'll make it that far. (Next week is Vegas week, then Memorable Year, then Disney and Mr. T and Charo are probably going to go before her.) I really do wonder how Gleb would handle that.

iMonrey post: LOL. I can't be the only one who thinks Gleb looks tailor-made for gay porn.

RedFiat post: Gleb is definitely the king of no taste, but Eryka is also guiding her image and she wants to be the no excuses sex goddess.  I don't think it will be a stretch to guess their Vegas routine will be raunch overload..  They are so predictable.  It was that Foxtrot that made me turn the channel. 

TroopinFairy post: I also feel like Gleb is a "one trick pony" when it comes to his choreography. It always has to be sexy and it's getting to be overdone with me. I don't mind being sexy but, if it's all that you do... He's doing the same thing with Erika that he did with Janna.

Boyznkatz post: I wish Gleb would give up the sex schtick and just do classical dances. He has a partner who can actually dance, so why go there. Erica and Bonner can both go after Charo. I would keep Mr. T over any of them.

Jacyln88 post: This Erica is a raging witch . Can she at least force a smile through that Botox 

ramble, beyoncheyy, Jaclyn, and renatae' posts about the gold digger are spot on.

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One of the elements of the show that I think will be problematic for Erika is the seasonal gimmick/motif of a week in which the performers either select a specific song that's important to them personally or a year in which a significant event happened to them and are then assigned a song from said year. The point of this is to generate some warmhearted and/or tearjerker crowd pleasing moments. 

For example, this Disney pop tart danced to a love song that a teen rocker had written for her during their first romance. It's usually even more saccharine and sentimental than this.

We've never seen anything of the ilk from the Erikas.

 

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OK Guys, I know you love it here (and I love you!) but there's a DWTS forum for discussion of that show. Please leave all the DWTS stuff there, especially any info about who gets kicked off or who places where etc. People don't come to the RH forum expecting to read about DWTS so posting spoilers isn't cool. Also go make new friends with all the DWTS posters! Thanks!! 

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She has said she lived "tom's" life for the first how many years, then she decided to take up her Erika Jayne hobby.  I would love to know how that conversation came up.  "Tom, I've been thinking of taking up a hobby.  You know, something creative, like singing auto-tuned songs, wearing revealing clothing and surrounding myself with really expensive sycophants who will be in the house all the time - Oh, and I'm going to take them everywhere I go - even when I go see my mom.  I'm tired of just being a lawyer's wife.  So, what do you think Tom?  Sound good?"

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Maybe it was a deal they had before they got married.  She stuck around for so long and was the doting wife on his arm and then he'd bankroll her dream of being a singing supah stah.  I don't know.  Maybe it's just because she's cold in general, but their relationship just seems more business like than passionate.

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45 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

How much profit do you think Erika makes on her music and performances?

33 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

None.

 

Yeah. Erika's problem is that the Erika Jayne team is far too big. She's got a choreographer, makeup artists, hair stylists, a bunch of backup dancers, and custom costumes for everyone. Additionally, she's paying high priced talent to write, produce, and guest on her songs. Yes, her performances look professional, but cost a ton of money to put this together. 

Whereas Kim can't sing, has negligible choreography, and has a bunch of dudes in their underwear randomly thrusting and Erika still ended up opening for Kim.

If Erika's music wasn't so ear-splittingly awful, she's poised to make the jump from housewife who sings to a singer who is a housewife. She needs to tone down the sexy sex stuff. It doesn't come off nearly as empowered or confident as its intended to be. There really needs to more to her than tits and ass. She needs to get better songs. She's not going to get Sia, but maybe someone with some talent and broader song writing experience. Erika also has to put out some slower tempo songs just to show some versatility.

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51 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

How much profit do you think Erika makes on her music and performances?

I don't think she makes a "profit" but I do think they get to write off a bunch of things as expenses such as clothing. Might even be claiming clothing items she doesn't wear as Erika Jayne.

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I saw an interview with Tom and Erika where Erika says that she was bored and unfulfilled which is why she created Erika Jayne.  I guess being "first lady of the bar association" was not enough for her.  Anyway, it made me wonder since Tom is around 70, what will happen as he gets even older and may need her to be his primary caregiver.  Will she go MIA like Sonya did on Old Man Morgan??  I think it will be interesting to see what happens.  

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13 minutes ago, Normades said:

I saw an interview with Tom and Erika where Erika says that she was bored and unfulfilled which is why she created Erika Jayne.  I guess being "first lady of the bar association" was not enough for her.  Anyway, it made me wonder since Tom is around 70, what will happen as he gets even older and may need her to be his primary caregiver.  Will she go MIA like Sonya did on Old Man Morgan??  I think it will be interesting to see what happens.  

I imagine she'll just hire people.  Are nannies for the elderly a thing yet?

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13 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I imagine she'll just hire people.  Are nannies for the elderly a thing yet?

Probably true.  The Sham Squad can take care of him.  They can put him in some leopard print jammies and serve up grandpa fierceness!  She'd better be sure that he doesn't have the capacity to cut her out of the will first though!  He's sharp and I wouldn't mess with him.

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41 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I imagine she'll just hire people.  Are nannies for the elderly a thing yet?

There not called nannies but home healthcare workers have been a thing for awhile.

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7 hours ago, biakbiak said:

There not called nannies but home healthcare workers have been a thing for awhile.

Erika better be careful. A cook turned maid turned home health aide managed to ingratiate herself with John Seward Johnson, marry him, and end up with the bulk of his fortune when he died. Stephen Hawking had an affair with one of his nurses and divorced his wife.

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Just watched her first video (Rollercoaster) from 2007.   Cheezy costumes, bad back up dancers, clearly no Glam Squad, bad camera angles.    It's just tacky.  Next one is from 2010 - and you can definitely see she's had some "work" has been done, and back up dancers are now in leather & chains.   But, treat yourself to find the first one - it's a scream.

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I had sniffles-precipitated insomnia last night and needed something mindless to occupy my attention so I rewatched some episodes from season six. 

And, wow, the dynamic between Erika and Tom is even weirder and more disturbing than I remembered.

After the dinner at which Tom shushed her while conversing with Kathryn and LVP, Erika  tells Kyle the next day with considerable alarm that he was still "fucking pissed!" at her the next morning because she's "frankly not allowed to do that shit!" or "act like that."

Which was especially odd because Erika was actually pretty composed and gracious by her standards that evening. It's confusing to me that she can't conduct herself in a specific fashion when physically around Tom but curse, stick her fingers in people's faces at charity events, and otherwise behave atrociously in public places on national tv.

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1 hour ago, lunastartron said:

I had sniffles-precipitated insomnia last night and needed something mindless to occupy my attention so I rewatched some episodes from season six. 

And, wow, the dynamic between Erika and Tom is even weirder and more disturbing than I remembered.

After the dinner at which Tom shushed her while conversing with Kathryn and LVP, Erika  tells Kyle the next day with considerable alarm that he was still "fucking pissed!" at her the next morning because she's "frankly not allowed to do that shit!" or "act like that."

Which was especially odd because Erika was actually pretty composed and gracious by her standards that evening. It's confusing to me that she can't conduct herself in a specific fashion when physically around Tom but curse, stick her fingers in people's faces at charity events, and otherwise behave atrociously in public places on national tv.

I have always found Tom to be an arrogant ass.  The idea her marriage is so much more precious than Dorit's, is just the same line of thinking that the Erikas have to deemed the most fabulous.  I notice Rinna jumped on the bandwagon with anyone disrespecting her husband last season.  Nothing says respect like claiming to use a strap-on on the old guy.

This is the same disjointed thinking the prevails in the Erikas personalities.  Erika was taken back at Bethenny's house when Bethenny was a rude hostess.  Then Erika turned around and yelled in Rinna's face at her BBQ.  Just can't keep track.  I do know Erika has zero in the way of manners and I don't look to her as setting protocol. 

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13 hours ago, lunastartron said:

I had sniffles-precipitated insomnia last night and needed something mindless to occupy my attention so I rewatched some episodes from season six. 

And, wow, the dynamic between Erika and Tom is even weirder and more disturbing than I remembered.

After the dinner at which Tom shushed her while conversing with Kathryn and LVP, Erika  tells Kyle the next day with considerable alarm that he was still "fucking pissed!" at her the next morning because she's "frankly not allowed to do that shit!" or "act like that."

Which was especially odd because Erika was actually pretty composed and gracious by her standards that evening. It's confusing to me that she can't conduct herself in a specific fashion when physically around Tom but curse, stick her fingers in people's faces at charity events, and otherwise behave atrociously in public places on national tv.

I don't remember much of that epi. Can you please remind me what did Erika said or did to piss off The Boss?

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A local metro PO was killed in a traffic accident a few days ago.

On the way to run an errand this morning I noticed that for 1/2 mile along a nearby parkway, someone had taken the time to tie blue ribbons in every tree and sign posts on BOTH sides of the street.

A bit down the road I thought about EJ and her meltdown  over ED's non-comment about her son.

I wondered how she would react to such a kind show of support from the community?

After all, NO one knows what she goes thru at night?

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19 minutes ago, Jel said:

I don't remember much of that epi. Can you please remind me what did Erika said or did to piss off The Boss?

This might help.  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/kathryn-edwards/kathryn-edwards-my-heart-is-in  During this conversation, Erika, who had no defense, interrupt the Almighty Tom's putrid, impotent defense of Erika's smack talk of LVP by saying the intent it was delivered.  There was no doubting Erika's intent.

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Thanks, zoeysom. She interrupted Tom! The nerve!

She must be a time traveler, because it's about 1897 in her house and somewhere in the late 90s to early 10s, depending on which artist she's "borrowing" from (I looked at a few yesterday, and erm, derivative much?)

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I remember the conversation w/Kyle the day after the dinner when she said Tom was pissed.   She made it clear that he expects and only tolerates certain behavior.   I wonder if he's at all "concerned" about her behavior this season.   He seems to think her video's are fine - but they draw a certain circle of people, and RHBH draws an entirely different segment - maybe a segment that's more tuned in to his world.  Business partners, their spouses, their kids, neighbors, etc.   What was portrayed as a "hobby" type of thing her first season is turning into this in fact is her life - and her marriage seems to be the hobby.    Her cold fish act has escalated into a performance.   The only time we see her laugh is when she's getting ready w/her glam squad - and that's mostly to talk about how fabulous she'll be and to dis the other women. 

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